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The precision Stylus built into the Galaxy Note sets it apart from any other smart phone for it greatly enhances and extends the usefulness of the phone. As well as note taking and drawing the Stylus can be used for sending handwritten emails and the Note includes hand writing recognition software. The precision tip will allow the selection of very small Web pages items without the need for zooming in and out. It will be particularly useful for controlling graphical images such as stock market charts where previously IPad sized Tablets was necessary. I would have preferred it to have been released with Ice Cream Sandwich and no fixed buttons, but it is difficult to be disappointed with what is on offer.
Steve Jobs is quoted as saying that the IPad screen is the minimum size needed because of the size of fingers. However, a precision stylus is the answer for smaller screens and much better than fingers for drawing and writing.The Galaxy Tab is destined to become one of the most powerful and flexible smart phones when it is released and that is due in no small part to the Stylus working with the high resolution screen and I look forward to owning it. Does anyone else like the Stylus idea?
Why has this been posted in the Galaxy SII forum ??
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The precision Stylus built into the Galaxy Note sets it apart from any other smart phone for it greatly enhances and extends the usefulness of the phone. As well as note taking and drawing the Stylus can be used for sending handwritten emails and the Note includes hand writing recognition software. The precision tip will allow the selection of very small Web pages items without the need for zooming in and out. It will be particularly useful for controlling graphical images such as stock market charts where previously IPad sized Tablets was necessary. I would have preferred it to have been released with Ice Cream Sandwich and no fixed buttons, but it is difficult to be disappointed with what is on offer.
Steve Jobs is quoted as saying that the IPad screen is the minimum size needed because of the size of fingers. However, a precision stylus is the answer for smaller screens and much better than fingers for drawing and writing.The Galaxy Tab is destined to become one of the most powerful and flexible smart phones when it is released and that is due in no small part to the Stylus working with the high resolution screen and I look forward to owning it. Does anyone else like the Stylus idea?
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I am thrilled with the idea of this, being a Palm refugee in the Android world - I loved using a stylus. I'm actually considering altering my phone plan going forward, I hope AT&T will release the Note on their service next year - they usually follow about five or six months after the release in Europe, from what I've heard. Then hubby can take over the SGS II I'm planning on getting next week. Hopefully the GPS in the Note is an improvement over what came with the Captivate...
So, for those of you who are not subscribed to Samsung's YouTube channel or simply have yet to see it, there has been a new video posted entitled "Introducing Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" which shows off some pretty cool features this behemoth of a tablet offers. Being a Note device, it comes with the S-Note application that all ICS Galaxy Note 5.3 devices pack as well, but with a slight difference. As far as I can tell, it looks to have different folder management (which I can only assume means that this is a tablet version of S-Note) and I was wondering whether it would be possible to get this version of S-Note onto our current Note 5.3 devices? Also, one feature highlighted frequently throughout the video is the ability to split the screen in half and run two apps simultaneously. Since 5.3 inches can, when the phone is placed into landscape mode, could offer two 2.6 inch displays (small, but still I think usable for two apps), I was wondering whether this feature is already possible or set to be planned to port to our Note 5.3 devices? As much as I love the looks of the Galaxy Note 10.1, I really don't find neither the money, need nor want (beyond a new piece of technology to play with) for a tablet - since I simply use a keyboard so much.
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Oops! Forgot to allow multiple options for the poll I decided to add, as I was curious to see what people thought of all the new Note devices. So, if a moderator is reading this, could they please alter that for me? Until then, feel free to just leave a post within this thread as an answer to the poll or any of my questions. Many thanks to those who do!
Having purchased the original Galaxy Note 5.3" on contract around 2-3 months ago, it is still going to be around 20 months (as per my 24-month contract) before I can upgrade my device. So, unless I want to spend more money, I won't be able to get a Note 2 and it is because of this that the speculation of merely a quad-core version of the current Note doesn't entice me enough to splash my cash. Besides, are quad-core phones really needed as people tend to use their tablets/computers for any incredibly powerful tasks? If I do get the money, I'd love to be able to afford a Note 10.1 as I have been flirting with the idea of a tablet now for a while. A large screen like that would allow me to truly feel like writing on paper with the S-Pen. Although, I am not sure whether or not I really need a tablet, as I constantly find myself yearning for a physical keyboard.
1. Display calibration no worse/better than S5 LTE-A
2. Metal body (antennas should be behind the plastic, glass or other material, but not metal, so did HTC, Apple and Sony, otherwise the connection will be very bad)
3. No PWM
4. Isocell camera (like S5), with fixed oversaturate and rosiness in some situations. Or big BSI sensor (second priority) with good optics
5. OIS
6. Aspherical lenses
7. Waterproof
How about faster updates, less bloatware, and better design
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Faheemarif252 said:
How about faster updates, less bloatware, and better design
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good updates. 1-3 moths. faster than sony, lg, htc and others
less bloatware? wut?
that you need to catch the virus:
1. find bad site with virus
2. dowload apk
3. allow all rights
Also, most viruses need root right
design is good
Bring back Page Buddy plskthx.
Would also appreciate it if this was the year Samsung realised that a 4x4 grid on a 5.7"+ screen is a ridiculous waste of space.
4GB RAM.
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Would also appreciate it if this was the year Samsung realised that a 4x4 grid on a 5.7"+ screen is a ridiculous waste of space.
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Really? You're complaining about stock Touchwiz on a forum dedicated to modifying your own device to improve it? Surely by now you know the meaning of a custom launcher...
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4GB RAM.
Really? You're complaining about stock Touchwiz on a forum dedicated to modifying your own device to improve it? Surely by now you know the meaning of a custom launcher...
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Why do you want 4GB RAM?? You don't need 4GB RAM, the Note 3 doesn't need 3GB RAM but Samsung added it. Android is more than capable of running smoothly on 2GB RAM! I'd like to see a 2K display, live video broadcast like the Xperia Z1, not too bothered about the camera because I don't print my pictures out so megapixels mean nothing, less bloat, the ability to remove bloat as we wish, a more premium feel....less plastic lol
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Why do you want 4GB RAM?? You don't need 4GB RAM, the Note 3 doesn't need 3GB RAM but Samsung added it. Android is more than capable of running smoothly on 2GB RAM! I'd like to see a 2K display, live video broadcast like the Xperia Z1, not too bothered about the camera because I don't print my pictures out so megapixels mean nothing, less bloat, the ability to remove bloat as we wish, a more premium feel....less plastic lol
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Because I refuse to pay a full 700 euro for hardware pretty much identical to what the Note 3 already has. The 805 is not spectacular, and as much as 2K is lovely, it's still not worth the additional 400 quid over a new Note 3. Samsung isn't Apple.
No, Megapixels means nothing. The sensor quality, on the other hand, could use a siginificant improvement!
No Knox
If it will be the same as note 3
It will be my last samsung
After thr s1 2 3 4
Note 1 2 and 3
Im sick and tired of samsung
Its gonna be a htc or sony or even a nexus
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Really? You're complaining about stock Touchwiz on a forum dedicated to modifying your own device to improve it? Surely by now you know the meaning of a custom launcher...
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But of course! I use one - I have no choice, after all.
It would be nice to have that choice. The Touchwiz launcher does everything right for my needs except grid size and a dynamic calendar icon. There's a couple of very good third party launchers that riff on Touchwiz, but the real thing has certain advantages - I loved Page Buddy on my Note II, and that's something no third party launcher has replicated yet. The mods of the stock launcher to increase the grid size tend to break all of the Samsung widgets.
That, and it's just bad form. Most casual users are going to keep the stock setup, and 4x4 icon grids are so...2007.
Hope they improve the audio on the Note 4.
Hope they beef up the speaker, and even use the same one as is used on the Note 2, speaker on the back again would please me.
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But of course! I use one - I have no choice, after all.
It would be nice to have that choice. The Touchwiz launcher does everything right for my needs except grid size and a dynamic calendar icon. There's a couple of very good third party launchers that riff on Touchwiz, but the real thing has certain advantages - I loved Page Buddy on my Note II, and that's something no third party launcher has replicated yet. The mods of the stock launcher to increase the grid size tend to break all of the Samsung widgets.
That, and it's just bad form. Most casual users are going to keep the stock setup, and 4x4 icon grids are so...2007.
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They killed Page Buddy entirely in 4.2.2... (and since Note 3 came with 4.3...)
The Note 3 never had the app, just the (annoying) suggestions bar that pops up under notifications when you plug in your headphones.
Hm, the only widget I've noticed a lack of functionality on is the Calendar one, but I prefer Today instead (I hate big white blocks, I prefer a sleek black 40% opacity look). Which others do not work?
Now on that last part, I fully agree. Fixed grids are more Apple's terrain than anything that uses Android. Imagine how that looks on the 12.2" NotePro.... >.<
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Hope they improve the audio on the Note 4.
Hope they beef up the speaker, and even use the same one as is used on the Note 2, speaker on the back again would please me.
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I'd rather they didn't. With the speaker on the bottom, I can use the screen whilst playing music as it lies on the table. Doesn't works quite so well when the speaker is lying on the table... Muffles it an awful lot. Back-set speakers are useless.
For instance. Laying it on the pillow whilst watching a film in bed. Can't hear a bloody thing with the speaker projecting the sounds into the pillow.....
In fact, I think we'd all rather have it on the front...
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dogan2010 said:
No Knox
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You have slim to no chance of that happening, knox is for enterprise BYOD policies. Expecting it to disappear is going to be futile
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Im sick and tired of samsung
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Thats nice, but lets see how you feel with the other devices
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Its gonna be a htc or sony or even a nexus
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You mean HTC and Sony with their irreversible unlocks? HTC with S-ON that restricts what partitions you can flash. Sony which in their unlock process irreversibly erase DRM device keys? AFAIK the Nexus is the only one of those 3 devices that has easy unlock/relock.
And this is just to be extra clear. Samsung Knox does not restrict you from doing anything to your device. All it does is flip a flag and remove knox secure containers which you have probably never even used and prevent you from having knox secure containers on a device that has been hacked up. If you actually have a need for knox containers you would not be modifying your device. As for the warranty implications try making a warranty claim with a htc-devunlocked/soff device or an unlocked sony device.
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They killed Page Buddy entirely in 4.2.2... (and since Note 3 came with 4.3...)
The Note 3 never had the app, just the (annoying) suggestions bar that pops up under notifications when you plug in your headphones.
Hm, the only widget I've noticed a lack of functionality on is the Calendar one, but I prefer Today instead (I hate big white blocks, I prefer a sleek black 40% opacity look). Which others do not work?
Now on that last part, I fully agree. Fixed grids are more Apple's terrain than anything that uses Android. Imagine how that looks on the 12.2" NotePro.... >.<
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Thankfully, the devices that had it got to keep it. Frustrates me that, of all the features Samsung has in their very robust software suite, they canned the one I liked the most, which has no third-party replacement.
The special thing about Page Buddy was that it was context sensitive and users defined, so I could have all of my stylus-related apps immediately available when I needed them, and hidden when I didn't - the same goes for music widgets. This is, I feel, a concept with enormous potential that has yet to be properly realised. Thanks to its removal, I use the S Pen less on the Note 3 than I did on the Note II.
The Page Buddy notification service is useless precisely because it isn't user-defined, and the system is not quite clever enough to only suggest apps that make use of a connected headset or the S Pen. I suspect they removed Page Buddy because it was confusing for many end users. Air Command is at least somewhat useful, being contextual, but without being able to set my own shortcuts, much less so than Page Buddy was. I'd much rather have shortcuts to my own apps than Sfinder and Pen Window (Pen Window had so much potential, it's just terribly thought out).
I have some hope for the return of similar features to Page Buddy. The Toolbox feature in the S5 is customisable, and I expect it to be in the Note 4.
As for the widgets, the stock weather widget and a number of Splanner widgets aren't available on third party launchers (although I'm fundamentally opposed to having two clocks on one screen anyway). Many of the other widgets, such as Assistive Light, suffer from formatting issues outside of the Touchwiz launcher, and end up distorted or with broken text. Nova's option to disable widget padding helps with this, however.
Aesthetically, I really enjoy the stock Touchwiz launcher, particularly the way it handles text and shadows. It's only the icons and colours that are somewhat offputting now (Notably the static date on the Spanner icon), Touchwiz has come a long way. There's also the general failure to take advantage of screen real estate, but that's not a Samsung-specific issue -and automatically opening apps in multiwindow view helps a lot.
If you've ever taken a look at some of Pantech's high end Korea-only devices, their approach to UI & UX is superb - there's an option to switch between 4x4 & 5x5 grids. Give me that & I'll be a lot happier. There's an Easy Mode, why not a Pro Mode?
I want only metal body and waterproof. That will be gr8
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Because I refuse to pay a full 700 euro for hardware pretty much identical to what the Note 3 already has. The 805 is not spectacular, and as much as 2K is lovely, it's still not worth the additional 400 quid over a new Note 3. Samsung isn't Apple.
No, Megapixels means nothing. The sensor quality, on the other hand, could use a siginificant improvement!
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I'm well aware Samsung isn't apple. If you don't want to pay £700....get it on contract, and if you aren't old enough to get it in contract then get your mum or dad to get it for you because no matter what, it is pretty safe to say that regardless of the specs of the Note 4, you're gonna be looking at paying around £6-700 and to provide an alternative option for you, if you don't want to be paying £6-700 then I suggest you get the LG G3 or the HTC One M8 or try your luck and see if you can find the Oppo find 7.
Oh, and whilst we're at it, would prefer it if they fixed the location reporting, too. Mine for the last two months thinks I'm in the arse end of Serbia. It's bloody creepy.
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I'm well aware Samsung isn't apple. If you don't want to pay £700....get it on contract, and if you aren't old enough to get it in contract then get your mum or dad to get it for you because no matter what, it is pretty safe to say that regardless of the specs of the Note 4, you're gonna be looking at paying around £6-700 and to provide an alternative option for you, if you don't want to be paying £6-700 then I suggest you get the LG G3 or the HTC One M8 or try your luck and see if you can find the Oppo find 7.
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I'm principally opposed to buying a phone on a contract. Too often I have to deal with customers who bought their device on a contract, have to pay 60 quid a month, and have become unemployed as a result to the economic crisis. Now they want out, after two months. For free and be allowed to keep their phone, to boot. Morons. Think ahead for once in your life. (Them, not you.)
Not to mention devices bought through a provider, or at all, in the Netherlands is about 200 euro more expensive than buying it open market in Germany. Anyone buying it in the Netherlands is an idiot.
I can't exactly swap to another brand. Samsung and T-Mobile would not be very happy with me if I did.....
The price in itself is not the issue. I bought a 900 quid NotePro. I own a Note 3, S5, S4, two S3's and a Note 2. Still not the issue. The value for money in relation to the previous device is the issue. Minor, mostly cosmetic, updates to a device and then asking the full price, that's Apple's style.
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Thankfully, the devices that had it got to keep it. Frustrates me that, of all the features Samsung has in their very robust software suite, they canned the one I liked the most, which has no third-party replacement.
The special thing about Page Buddy was that it was context sensitive and users defined, so I could have all of my stylus-related apps immediately available when I needed them, and hidden when I didn't - the same goes for music widgets. This is, I feel, a concept with enormous potential that has yet to be properly realised. Thanks to its removal, I use the S Pen less on the Note 3 than I did on the Note II.
The Page Buddy notification service is useless precisely because it isn't user-defined, and the system is not quite clever enough to only suggest apps that make use of a connected headset or the S Pen. I suspect they removed Page Buddy because it was confusing for many end users. Air Command is at least somewhat useful, being contextual, but without being able to set my own shortcuts, much less so than Page Buddy was. I'd much rather have shortcuts to my own apps than Sfinder and Pen Window (Pen Window had so much potential, it's just terribly thought out).
I have some hope for the return of similar features to Page Buddy. The Toolbox feature in the S5 is customisable, and I expect it to be in the Note 4.
As for the widgets, the stock weather widget and a number of Splanner widgets aren't available on third party launchers (although I'm fundamentally opposed to having two clocks on one screen anyway). Many of the other widgets, such as Assistive Light, suffer from formatting issues outside of the Touchwiz launcher, and end up distorted or with broken text. Nova's option to disable widget padding helps with this, however.
Aesthetically, I really enjoy the stock Touchwiz launcher, particularly the way it handles text and shadows. It's only the icons and colours that are somewhat offputting now (Notably the static date on the Spanner icon), Touchwiz has come a long way. There's also the general failure to take advantage of screen real estate, but that's not a Samsung-specific issue -and automatically opening apps in multiwindow view helps a lot.
If you've ever taken a look at some of Pantech's high end Korea-only devices, their approach to UI & UX is superb - there's an option to switch between 4x4 & 5x5 grids. Give me that & I'll be a lot happier. There's an Easy Mode, why not a Pro Mode?
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I still think 5x5 is also too small on 5.7".. I'm using 8x6...
I do agree there should be a pro mode. Just let us set the grid size ourself, it's not too difficult to program.
Thankfully, there's an alternative app for most things. I've taken to using eWeatherHD, Flashlight+ (The older version of the app still lets you use a widget to toggle the light without launching the app. Look for 1.56), Today calendar widget and ofcourse the irreplacable Zooper Widget for pretty much everything
I don't get how they managed to mess up Pen Window so badly. It's a direct rip-off of from the Wacom Wheel on an Intuos. Except that one has a modifiable full wheel that can be modified to do everything from shortcuts to button combos to actions. And it had several layers, so you could set one slice to open a launch menu with 8 apps. And another slice to actions. Another to share options, etc. They should have used that, it had year and years of research into it.
The Page Buddy on the Note 3 is hilarious. It keeps suggesting my SMS app as the first app to use, even though N7player is running 100% of the time I have my headphones plugged in. It only detects times opened, not amount of time used.
Though frankly Touchwiz being more like Vanilla Android would be perfectly fine, too. Just as long as they don't force MagUX on us... Oh sure, it's lovely if you have a US device. 90% of the apps for it aren't available for non-US users, though. So you have 8 blocks that simply remain empty because only about 3 apps work. Yay...
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The special thing about Page Buddy was that it was context sensitive and users defined, so I could have all of my stylus-related apps immediately available when I needed them, and hidden when I didn't - the same goes for music widgets. This is, I feel, a concept with enormous potential that has yet to be properly realised. Thanks to its removal, I use the S Pen less on the Note 3 than I did on the Note II.
The Page Buddy notification service is useless precisely because it isn't user-defined, and the system is not quite clever enough to only suggest apps that make use of a connected headset or the S Pen. I suspect they removed Page Buddy because it was confusing for many end users. Air Command is at least somewhat useful, being contextual, but without being able to set my own shortcuts, much less so than Page Buddy was. I'd much rather have shortcuts to my own apps than Sfinder and Pen Window (Pen Window had so much potential, it's just terribly thought out).
I have some hope for the return of similar features to Page Buddy. The Toolbox feature in the S5 is customisable, and I expect it to be in the Note 4.
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I can replicate these features with gmd spend control (use the launchpads and setup your own apps to use, voila custom page buddy for spen) and tasker (use tasker to detect headphones plugged in and run gmd spen launchpad on detect, simple), it would be nice if these options where built into a 3rd party launcher or touchwiz, in the meantime it does work.
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Knox and knox free versions of note 4 !!!
I want No Knox, unlock bootloader, easy root by default, no triangle, custom status, etc, i want freedom.
If not it will be my last samsung phones. Only reason why i bought 2 note3 was because i know i could root it with knox 0. but i cant put custom kernels. So i think that next time will be an nexus.
Also sammy has crappy quality, power, volume, home buttons get bad in time. You need back to kill and gravity box to unlock screen without buttons
And finally NO 2k resolution, we need way to powerfull gpu, cpu gor that. Crap, even my S2 has double frames in games then note3, don't belive me? Try it yourself with FPS Meter. I want 720p device.
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Do you feel that Gear VR (Virtual Reality) will revolutionize the mobile industry in User's Viewing Experience and take a step further to Reality?
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I wouldn't use the term "revolutionary", as this comes way after the Oculus, Morpheus and even Cardboard. But I will say I am highly interested and welcome the idea with open arms. I have always joked that the Google Cardboard (which I own, and am very happy with my tiny experience) is the Poor Man's Oculus Rift. Now I feel like the Gear VR is the Rich Man's Google Cardboard, lol. The only thing that is pissing me off, is that I would take the Galaxy Note Edge over the Note 4, and it seems like Gear VR will work exclusively ONLY on the Note 4...not the edge...
I'm really hoping they change their mind (They would gain a lot more to allow Gear VR to work with the likes of the Note 3, Galaxy S4, S5, and S6)
I don't think there is any device currently using their cell phones as a source to experience VR. Is there any such models doing it so? If Yes, I stand corrected.
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I don't think there is any device currently using their cell phones as a source to experience VR. Is there any such models doing it so? If Yes, I stand corrected.
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the 20$ Google Cardboard...? lol
It'll get it on its way maybe
Surly the price of the head gear would be fairly low, since all the tech is in the phone.... i mean the device is all passive right o_0?
The Gear VR appears powered BY the Note 4(touchpad and back button), and the VR does not appear to have a charging/pass-through port. Would have been nice to watch a movie, play games, etc while lying in bed, and not have to worry about the phone going dead. I hope something is done to remedy this.
it's an interesting concept. unfortunately, I think it's more gimmickie than anything else. If it's cheap, it may be an interesting tinker toy with the phone.
Think big issue, it'll have a limited install base and thus limited third party developer support.
It's just a gimmick and I still fail to see the benefits of all that VR glasses ? I mean I've got headaches from just putting that 3d Glasses a few years ago and now a full helmet ummm nope.
This site says $199 but I dont know if this site is reputable or where they got the price
http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/05/s...r-headset-will-cost-199-phablet-not-included/
I wonder how would 3D movies look on it. The resolution is excellent for this but I wonder how distorted the image will be? Will it look like a cinema screen?
EDIT: From this article - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ions-Samsung-Gear-VR/articleshow/41699899.cms - it seems to be disapointing: "However, there is a problem, and a major one at that. Gear VR shows very pixilated videos, even though the Note 4's screen has QHD resolution. The likely reason is that Gear VR's lenses focus on only a small portion of the screen to play the video and then magnify it up this portion only, thus resulting in a pixilated display."
The Gear VR isn't fully passive, looks to have extra Accelerator, Gyrometer, Magnetic and Proximity sensors for movement detection. I have an Oculus DK2 and I'm excited to try this device. As far as watching 3D video, that is not really what "VR" headsets are designed for. You would need some different lenses and a much higher resolution screen. Think about the experience like sticking your head in a dome fish bowl. To display flat video you would only be using part of the screen and the view angle isn't ideal. Now if you have video shot with a dome cam, that is cool, you can look all around the world as the video plays. Or if the 3D video is shot in a way that compensates for the edges of the frame being out of view. The Oculus DK2 uses a stock Note 3 screen and I would image the retail version of the Oculus will use the Note 4's screen from a production and cost perspective.
When playing a game or demo in a full 3D environment the resolution issue starts to disappear, your 96 (or 120 on the rift) degree field of view effectively turns into a 360 degree field of view. A good example of this is stare directly as some text on your monitor, don't move your eyes and tell me how much of the rest of the monitor is in focus? It will be very little if your eyes stay perfectly still.
I think the deciding factor for this device to succeed is the motion tracking and then secondly content. If the motion tracking is poor, everyone will just puke and throw this in the trash.
I think Virtual Reality will be great on the Galaxy Gear VR, but one thing that I feel a lot of people are overlooking and what I'm concerned about is the cancer/brain damage users would eventually get years down the road from extended use.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones
http://guardianlv.com/2014/05/brain-tumors-linked-to-cell-phones-study-suggests/
http://www.thewire.com/national/201...uld-actually-cause-brain-cancer-maybe/370818/
I know it's been a heated debate that extended use of cellphones can cause cancer, but think how much more we are prone to it by not only using our future Galaxy Note 4's for phone conversations, but also for the Galaxy Gear VR(just a few inches from our face). Anyone consider this ?
Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited for the Galaxy Gear VR, but since I also have a Playstation 4, I was thinking of just getting Sony's Virtual Reality Unit when it becomes available since the presence of a cellphone and its electromagnetic waves would be absent. Thoughts ?
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I don't think there is any device currently using their cell phones as a source to experience VR. Is there any such models doing it so? If Yes, I stand corrected.
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Here's an alternative to the gear vr and google cardboard that lands around the middle of the two in quality/functionality, but really can't be beat for the price. ...btw, the site is legit, I purchase stuff from them frequently.
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yes ı do
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I wouldn't use the term "revolutionary", as this comes way after the Oculus, Morpheus and even Cardboard. But I will say I am highly interested and welcome the idea with open arms. I have always joked that the Google Cardboard (which I own, and am very happy with my tiny experience) is the Poor Man's Oculus Rift. Now I feel like the Gear VR is the Rich Man's Google Cardboard, lol. The only thing that is pissing me off, is that I would take the Galaxy Note Edge over the Note 4, and it seems like Gear VR will work exclusively ONLY on the Note 4...not the edge...
I'm really hoping they change their mind (They would gain a lot more to allow Gear VR to work with the likes of the Note 3, Galaxy S4, S5, and S6)
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I don't think that you are getting why it is only being released on the Note 4. The Oculus technology basically relies on turning pixels on and off instantaneously. If you turn right for instance the entire screen much be redrawn to a new image, continuously. So you need a screen especially, and a processor, which can handle that kind of requirement. The Note 4's screen is the best on the market to do that. You just wouldn't have the same experience at all with the S5 (not even getting into how it is smaller), or even the iphone6. The edge wouldn't work I am guessing because of the bottom (or top) of your screen bending and looking just plain odd when used in a screen for one of these.
Until other devices come up to snuff on the specs that matter to using an Oculus type device, the experience would not be the same. You would have an experience for sure, you have one with the $20 cardboard version. But it will not be the same.
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Here's an alternative to the gear vr and google cardboard that lands around the middle of the two in quality/functionality, but really can't be beat for the price. ...btw, the site is legit, I purchase stuff from them frequently.
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I can also vouch for FastTech. I have bought all of my eCig supplies from them for a couple years.
I don't believe the phone is close enough to your face to have ANY impact even if you had a mobile connection on all the time while in VR.
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I don't believe the phone is close enough to your face to have ANY impact even if you had a mobile connection on all the time while in VR.
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I hope that's the case. I guess I may be paranoid due to the cellphone waves coming from it since I'm sure I'd be wearing the Galaxy Gear VR for at least a good 30 minutes each session.
Just had to bump this thread. :good:
I recently bought the Gear S2 after using my Gear 2 Neo daily for almost a year.
I used my Neo for:
- Occasionally taking calls via Bluetooth when my hands were otherwise occupied (e.g. carrying stuff).
- Occasionally controlling the TV via IR blaster
- Tracking my sleep habits, how much I was getting and how much tossing/turning I did that night
- Timekeeping
- Notifications
For reasons I can't really fathom, the Gear S2 only does the latter 2. I can't really understand why Samsung would remove those features from their flagship smartwatch line. What's more, I REALLY can't understand why this watch is getting ABSOLUTELY RAVE reviews across the board. It's almost like people didn't know the Gear 2 Neo even existed.
I guess it has something to do with the fact that sleep tracking, IR device control, and accepting phone calls via bluetooth are things MOST watches are incapable of for various reasons, so it's not much of a drawback from a reviewer's standpoint when those features are removed. As someone coming from the Neo to the S2, I have a hard time getting past the fact that I have an older, cheaper device that is far more capable sitting in a drawer unused. :/
Don't get me wrong, though. What the S2 can do it does do very well. The screen is gorgeous. The rotating bezel is brilliant. This version of Tizen is lightning fast and very intuitive. The "always on" feature is great, and notifications are handled much better. But I can't really escape the feeling that, while the Neo was a smartwatch, the S2 is just a $300 watch that can send text messages and receive email.
Am I missing something here?
Oh, and for some reason I can't get mine to vibrate when text messages are received. Calls only.
I sold my lovely Gear 2 in readiness for the S2 thinking it would finally get better app support and a better UI on top of the camera and ability to make and receive calls.
What a disappointment, apps are worse or as bad as the prior 3 watches, no camera or calling !!!
If you get a 3g model then it will have a speaker...therefore allowing for calls over bluetooth even if you don't have a sim card for the watch. On the sport models there is no speaker though. For the other functions like ir blaster, I guess they figured people don't use it as much and they had to cut something out to include new things like a different form factor, NFC, etc. Not defending, just saying they evolved to something else. Personally, I love my original gear s which basically has everything but the new round size of the S2.
Yeah it's pretty crazy our Gear 2's are the still the most capable smartwatches on the market.
Tends to happen when you strap a phone on your wrist instead of a watch.
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...I have a hard time getting past the fact that I have an older, cheaper device that is far more capable sitting in a drawer unused. :/
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I don't understand. You say you have a more capable watch sitting in the drawer unused, yet you recently bought a new S2 that is less capable and you are using it. Why not return the S2, use your Neo and save $300 bucks. Just because the S2 is out now, doesn't mean that your Neo can't be used again.
I had a Moto 360 V1 and Gear Fit, I returned both of them after a while because I didn't like them for one reason or another. No point in keeping unused depreciating assets like phones and wearables IMO, it's not like a classic Bugatti or classic Rolex that you can pass on or will gain value.
As far as the S2 is concerned, I think it will outsell all other Gear watches combined easily. The general public just doesn't want the whole entire kitchen sink in their watches. This is evident by previously poor Gear sales. Sure, they will lose some previous Gear customers, but they are gaining many more. That's the way business works unfortunately, maximum unit sales for maximum profits. I will say though that the BT version of the S2 really needs a speaker and Google voice recognition.
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Tends to happen when you strap a phone on your wrist instead of a watch.
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Ha, you cannot stop the inevitable. That point that most of the posters in this thread are making, is that Samsung DROPPED a lot of features and that didn't go over well with a segment of Samsung smartwatch users. I was in the thread where they were saying the S2 was selling out in Korea.. Wow, I figured that was just plain sales talk or there must be users that don't care about the PAST features that were on past Galaxy Gear Watches. Gear 2 was nice, but I even went for the Gear S, I am fully independent of my Note 4 if I choose to be.. They have put the S2 out there without a speaker, and they downsized it..
People are not talking against the S2 just to be talking, that's for sure..
Back to your comment, why don't Samsung just make a PLAIN WATCH, and leave all Tizen, email, and small tech stuff that you can do on the S2 alone?
Get the S2 3g model if you want an independent experience. (why do people keep acting like this model doesn't exist and doesn't address most of the complaints prior S users have?)
As far as making a plain watch? I might consider wearing that before the monstrosities Samsung has put out before. Gear 2 and Gear S, lots of cool tech, but the only place I'd be seen wearing one is if I went to a Star Trek convention.
This thread reminds me of a book I read years back: "Crossing the Chasm." It's about the challenge technology companies have selling to different kinds of customers: technology enthusiastic early adopters vs. the pragmatic broader market. According to the author, Geoffrey Moore, the former are an important way to launch an product in a new space, but represent a very small market. The latter are a much larger market but are not going to buy a product until it reaches a level of maturity, refinement, and clarity of purpose.
I usually consider myself an early adopter, but I gotta say, I really like the S2, but I had no interest whatsoever in the Gear 2 or Gear S. But for those who like that sort of product, hopefully there will continue to be options in future.
I get that there's a lot of "can't please everyone" talk going on here, but here's why the removal of these features is kind of nuts to me:
The single driving complaint the public has with this type of wearable technology is that it's pointless. The iPad and the iPhone were brilliant because they were able to fill a niche solving problems in people's lives that they didn't know existed. People argue that the physical form-factor limitations inherent with smartwatches makes them redundant at best and extravagantly wasteful at worst. The problem is that this characterization is largely correct.
For smartwatches to break out of that mold, I think the key is for them to be as Swiss-army-knife as possible. Can't find the remote, got it. Can't answer call because its impractical (hands full, can't find phone, doing chores, etc), got it. Would like to evaluate sleep habits, got it. Need to make NFC payment, got it. Want to track your heart rate, got it. The second you start dumping features is the second you move the device even more into the realm of "$300+ dollar device to check your email". The rotating bezel is super cool, but the primary concern people have with smartwatches is that they're pointless, not that they need to be easy to use.
The point I was trying to make is that I was one of the few people for whom Samsung successfully created a product that actually DID fill a unique little niche in my life. As they're trying to expand their product base, it seems the last thing they would want to do is create a flagship device that has absolutely 0 appeal to someone that is already super into smartwatches anyway.
This is actually the first time I've ever upgraded a piece of technology to find it woefully inadequate to what I already had. As a technophile, that's a really strange concept to me. The technology in device is great - I love the hardware, the software, and the implementation. Unfortunately, this device really is a $350 way to read text messages on your wrist and that's all it is, which is why I'll be returning it ASAP.
Also, I have to say, it kinda looks feminine. I much prefer the squared off look of the Gear 2. That's just personal preference, though.
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I get that there's a lot of "can't please everyone" talk going on here, but here's why the removal of these features is kind of nuts to me:
The single driving complaint the public has with this type of wearable technology is that it's pointless. The iPad and the iPhone were brilliant because they were able to fill a niche solving problems in people's lives that they didn't know existed. People argue that the physical form-factor limitations inherent with smartwatches makes them redundant at best and extravagantly wasteful at worst. The problem is that this characterization is largely correct.
For smartwatches to break out of that mold, I think the key is for them to be as Swiss-army-knife as possible. Can't find the remote, got it. Can't answer call because its impractical (hands full, can't find phone, doing chores, etc), got it. Would like to evaluate sleep habits, got it. Need to make NFC payment, got it. Want to track your heart rate, got it. The second you start dumping features is the second you move the device even more into the realm of "$300+ dollar device to check your email". The rotating bezel is super cool, but the primary concern people have with smartwatches is that they're pointless, not that they need to be easy to use.
The point I was trying to make is that I was one of the few people for whom Samsung successfully created a product that actually DID fill a unique little niche in my life. As they're trying to expand their product base, it seems the last thing they would want to do is create a flagship device that has absolutely 0 appeal to someone that is already super into smartwatches anyway.
This is actually the first time I've ever upgraded a piece of technology to find it woefully inadequate to what I already had. As a technophile, that's a really strange concept to me. The technology in device is great - I love the hardware, the software, and the implementation. Unfortunately, this device really is a $350 way to read text messages on your wrist and that's all it is, which is why I'll be returning it ASAP.
Also, I have to say, it kinda looks feminine. I much prefer the squared off look of the Gear 2. That's just personal preference, though.
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Agree with everything you wrote except for the part where you said you think the watch looks kinda feminine. ?
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Get the S2 3g model if you want an independent experience. (why do people keep acting like this model doesn't exist and doesn't address most of the complaints prior S users have?)
As far as making a plain watch? I might consider wearing that before the monstrosities Samsung has put out before. Gear 2 and Gear S, lots of cool tech, but the only place I'd be seen wearing one is if I went to a Star Trek convention.
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, Gotta give the Star Wars Crack was a good one.
However, if the S2 was so much a winner, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Instead we all would be breaking or necks to get one. As you can see that is not the case. A lot of users that WOULD be breaking their necks to get on are instead turned off by the new design and features.
You can't ignore that, just read some of the comments.
Since I am a Samsung Fanboy, I will wait for the S3 and Note and see what happens!
I am a Star Wars fan, now I'm addicted to Guardians Of The Galaxy.
I'll gladly sale my gear 2 neo to anyone reading this.
IR blaster went away on phones and watch, just didn't make the cut for usability. I played with ir for the first day to show off then never used it again myself.
Camera in a watch was another one. Apple watch will sale a **** ton without these features for more money. It's not needed by enough people.
Speaker, u just bought the wrong model, but they should have put it in all models. I agree on that part.
Other problems are app issues and tizen is always gonna behind google wear, they are trying to swim upstream and I'm afraid they will never catchup in shear amount of apps.
The 3G model is not coming to all markets the UK being one.
Samsung is just a Apple sheep soon as the Apple watch fan boys like the whole making and taking calls Samsung will do the mother of U turn and the S3 gear will be out this time next year if not earlier.
My Gear 2 was great battery and did the notification basics and handy calling features but the lack of apps was a killer and here we are again the same crap this time 1000 apps at launch.
I think the Neo was a massively underrated device and I'll be keeping mine.
That said, the additional functionality versus the S2 were largely novelty items for me... it's core functions of time, notifications and step tracking were all I used on a daily basis. I can understand the frustration if you used these regularly.
The form factor (s2 is a beautiful watch in its own right) and the bezel navigation are worth the price of admission IMO.
I agree with JazzMac about the S2. I have had the original "Galaxy Gear", Gear 2, Gear S, and then picked up a Gear S2. After 2 days I returned it. Loved the round form factor and rotating bezel, but realized I wanted at least the receive & talk capability on the watch. I would wait for the 3G version. I have had the 3G version for about 3 weeks now and absolutely love it. Does almost everything I want, has great battery life, and I enjoy the freedom of leaving my phone for runs and other quick trips and still being connected.