What functions work in standalone mode? - Samsung Gear S3

There are some folks here trying to decide between getting the Frontier bluetooth/WiFi only vs the LTE model. There are others who are iPhone users. And there are probably a few folks, like me, who want to ditch (or significantly reduce) the use of their smartphone. For us, knowing what the LTE version can do on its own is important. Its clear that an Android phone is required for setup, but beyond that, how accessible does it need to be? What S3 functions/apps work without being connected to a smartphone?

You will be able to go to the gym or do other sporting activities such as hiking or snowboarding without a phone. take calls, texts and as of the middle december listen to Spotify.

You also cannot use the find my phone/find my gear feature if they are need to use the mobile network. If you're within Bluetooth range then it will work just fine though.

I have an LTE device and have noticed that Samsung Pay still requires the companion app on the phone. You can make up to 5 purchases (depending on card issuer) while disconnected from the phone, but after that you have to connect to the phone again to continue to use Samsung Pay. On a positive note, I have had great success using Samsung Pay on the watch and it works in many places that don't take NFC payment as well.
While connected via Bluetooth, the watch disconnects from the LTE network and works just like a Bluetooth version of the watch.

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Take a Sprint Air Rave overseas for free calls?

I'm going over seas soon and I'm NOT planning on taking my air rave, but it got me thinking - and I was just curious - could I plug it in to an internet connection overseas and have free calls?
The only reason I can think that this wouldn't work is that
1. The air rave won't register on an IP Sprint detects as foreign.
2. Sprint won't register an air rave that is reporting a GPS location out of their coverage area.
I read one article that claimed that Sprint uses #2, in which case you could create a simple device that plugs into the pigtail port on the Air Rave and reports erroneous coordinates. You could probably do this by recording the input from one location and then playing it back through the pigtail at another location (not sure if straight audio would work or exactly how GPS is transmitted).
There used to be an app for Windows Mobile that would turn your phone into a bluetooth GPS that you could hook other devices up to. If there was something like this for Android - combined with mock locations being enabled, you could hook this up pretty easily.
You could also solve #1 with a VPN.
Anyway, again - I'm really not planning on doing this, just sort of thinking out loud. The fact that I would have WiFi/VoIP anyway wherever I could plug an air rave in would defeat the purpose. Also, I'm sure it would be illegal to operate your own device at 1900MHz in most countries.

Gear S2 Wifi model: internet connectivity without smartphone?

Hi guys
I do not own the watch yet but have just been informed that apparently the WiFi model still relies on a smartphone to connect to the internet, is this true?
(I was told that the WiFi in the watch is simply a WiFi direct and that it will not work when the phone is off.)
My use case is the following: I wish to write my own applications for it that can connect to WiFi networks independently of the phone and can make API queries from Javascript
without using my phone's internet connection but instead directly connecting to,say, my company's wifi. Is this possible?
I know that without my smartphone active, the watch obviously won't have access to my smartphone notifications, but that is not what I am looking for in a watch anyway.
My ideas are going more in the direction of querying my own API for my server(via json) so I can keep an eye on its status. Does such a thing work with the smartphone being off, or is this something that works exclusively with the 3G version of the S2? I would love to get the 3G model, but it isn't being sold in my country.
Nik
Yes, it is possible. The watch connects to the WiFi by itself... You don't need the phone for that
endeebee said:
Hi guys
I do not own the watch yet but have just been informed that apparently the WiFi model still relies on a smartphone to connect to the internet, is this true?
(I was told that the WiFi in the watch is simply a WiFi direct and that it will not work when the phone is off.)
My use case is the following: I wish to write my own applications for it that can connect to WiFi networks independently of the phone and can make API queries from Javascript
without using my phone's internet connection but instead directly connecting to,say, my company's wifi. Is this possible?
I know that without my smartphone active, the watch obviously won't have access to my smartphone notifications, but that is not what I am looking for in a watch anyway.
My ideas are going more in the direction of querying my own API for my server(via json) so I can keep an eye on its status. Does such a thing work with the smartphone being off, or is this something that works exclusively with the 3G version of the S2? I would love to get the 3G model, but it isn't being sold in my country.
Nik
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Yes, using WIFI to connect other than the watch is doable, the problem that I had was the battery drain, it drained the battery in 3 hours when I have the WIFI set to on. so now I only use it Bluetooth to my phone, and with that, it lasts 2-3 days without a charge.

Portable hotspot issues with car wifi

Hi,
I've joined this forum to try and get some help with this along with any future issues as it looks like there's a smart bunch of people on here...
Please do move this to the appropriate area if I've put it in the wrong place.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 on a UK 'Three' contract.
However I recently bought a new car which has a WLAN feature - basically what it does is connects to your phone's portable hotspot, then broadcasts that internet connection on it's own in-car hotspot for passengers to connect to.
The benefit (because at first glance you think "why bother - why not just connect those devices straight to the phone's hotspot?") is that once the car connects to your phone's hotspot it uses the car's antenna to receive data etc which means you get a stronger and more consistent data connection.
So, the issue:
My portable hotspot works fine when connecting a device such as laptop/iPad etc directly to the phone.
However when I connect the car to my personal hotspot, and then a device to the car, it all connects up okay but I get errors on the end-user device saying that there's no internet connection.
I have done quite a lot of testing with this - for example in the following situations it works perfectly for the end-user devices - just never with my S7!!
- Connecting the car to my girlfriend's iPhone SE hotspot (on the same network)
- Connecting the car to my friend's S7 (on the same network?!!)**
- Connecting the car to my home WiFi whilst on the drive
**Interestingly, my friend's S7 was bought separately so had a pure Samsung build on it - mine came from Three so had a load of Three crap on it.
So, to tackle that, yesterday I did a cache wipe and factory data reset, then entered download mode and using Odin, loaded on the latest version of Nougat including all the new BL/AP/CP/CSC files.
Then me and my friend swapped SIM cards to see if that could be the issue, we tried using both phones. None of it worked, and now even his phone with his SIM card in it (which previously worked) no longer works with the car's WLAN.
It still doesn't work and it's driving me mad
Today I'm going to try messing with APN settings because I've read that changing the APN type to just "default" has solved some similar issues to this but without the 'middle-man' car in the middle.
I've also called Three and asked them to send me a replacement SIM card.
I'm sure it is NOT the car that's the issue, as it has worked fine on some devices.
I'm sure it is NOT the Three network that's the issue, as it has worked on 2 other devices on that network.
I suspect it's either some sort of config that needs changing, or the hardware of the phone is faulty.
I have a "remote management session" with Samsung support later today, but I don't expect them to be able to help with this remotely
Any thoughts or ideas here would be greatly appreciated, I'm sorry I've written so much but wanted to include all the info.
Thanks, Andrew

Whats the value of Wifi on a Gear S3 if you have your phone with you?

I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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The two devices will talk to each other whether wifi is turned on or off. Wifi comes in handy for apps like Spotify so you don't have to use up your data and apps like Kodi gear where you can control multimedia through your watch .
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scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
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You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
scoob101 said:
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
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No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
scoob101 said:
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.
If you always have your phone with you (by definition this means within BT range) there is no reason to use WiFi. There is nothing that can be done via WiFi that can't be done via BT. But the reverse is not true.
So basically if you have your phone with you at all times, its a complete waste of battery. Turned off. Cheers.
10urshin said:
You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.
Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.
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No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
10urshin said:
No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Lol, if i turn off password protection on my home network, then my neighbors will start using my Wifi! I can't believe Samsung overlooked this!! I'll just wait for a possible update???
I can confirm that it should connect to a wifi protected network. I use WPA2-PSK and it connects fine to my router.
MobileUnlockBase said:
Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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The discussion is because people want to understand the uses of their watch. Having it is nice, but there aren't too many use case scenarios for it. Most of the time where WiFi is available, the phone will be close at hand and connected via BT. Streaming music (over WiFi or otherwise) is a very limited application because of the battery drain. If/when moreb Tizen apps are developed for the watch, using WiFi may become practical.
At home i do leave my phone in 1 place, keep my S3 on yes moving around its always BT, but moving further around the house when BT drops the WIFI takes over.
Also once i forgot my phone at home, but when i reached the gym (was registered for their WIFI) i still got my notifications etc.
But all in all no much use, but i left it on as could not discern much battery loss with it being on.
you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..
It's not about giving a use for WiFi all the time. Most of the time WiFi should be off to conserve battery. It is more about the one off scenarios like you forgot your phone at home, but you can connect to WiFi at work and tell your wife you are alive through a text... or for the tizen app developer, to test apps on your watch you need to connect to the watch via wifi... or for spotify.. there are several reasons to have it, but still it should be off Moore often than not
jestexman said:
you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..
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10urshin said:
No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Odd, now it's connecting without doing either of your suggestions!!? Confusing!
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Well GWD needs the watch and PC connected to the same network (wifi) to get the faces from one place to another. Unless you get it into a store maybe, but having it on wifi is handy to test things out as you add them and modify themes.
Just to share my opinion. In my work I’m not allowed to have the phone with me. So the solution to continue receiving my notifications are through WiFi, and it works perfectly.
Streaming music from Spotify on my watch over Wifi.
scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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WiFi (WiFi Direct) is also used for syncing Images, songs and large apps over to your watch; these would otherwise take lots of time over Bluetooth.
After last update there is no connection via wifi with my phone.. Does someone experienced the same issue?

Just switched from Apple Watch

Two questions, first on my Apple Watch I had the modular Watch face. It had shortcuts to apps, displayed the date, time and the next event on my calendar. Is there a Watch face I can download that is similar? Secondly I'm getting confusing information about remote connection. I have a Moto Z. I thought I could use the remote connection to get notifications when my Watch wasn't connected via Bluetooth. However I can figure out how to do it. It seems it's either Bluetooth or standalone.
ILowry282 said:
Two questions, first on my Apple Watch I had the modular Watch face. It had shortcuts to apps, displayed the date, time and the next event on my calendar. Is there a Watch face I can download that is similar? Secondly I'm getting confusing information about remote connection. I have a Moto Z. I thought I could use the remote connection to get notifications when my Watch wasn't connected via Bluetooth. However I can figure out how to do it. It seems it's either Bluetooth or standalone.
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Unless you have the S3 LTE version, and pay for LTE service, you can't be remotely connected to the phone when BT isn't available. The phone and the watch have to share a common connection somewhere.
As far as app shortcuts, there are many watch faces in both the Samsung and the Google Play stores that provide that. For example, I sometimes use the App Launcher G watch face that allows 9 app shortcuts, date, and battery level.
Edited: My apology for the assumption that you wanted to receive remote notifications far away from your phone. Yes, if both devices are on the same WiFi network, you can get notifications on your S3.
If your watch is connected to WiFi you can have a remote connection regardless of lte on watch or not. I have a WiFi only classic version and I can connect remotely through WiFi
To connect remotely with WiFi you need to be signed in to your Samsung account on your phone - notifications are synced through it.
ILowry282 said:
Two questions, first on my Apple Watch I had the modular Watch face. It had shortcuts to apps, displayed the date, time and the next event on my calendar. Is there a Watch face I can download that is similar? Secondly I'm getting confusing information about remote connection. I have a Moto Z. I thought I could use the remote connection to get notifications when my Watch wasn't connected via Bluetooth. However I can figure out how to do it. It seems it's either Bluetooth or standalone.
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Some nice watchfaces you also find at watchfaces.be - recently 3 very pretty AppleWatches with practical background functions. However, you have to install with Samsung's GearwatchDesigner.

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