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[Q] Help in returning to stock rom

So i'm looking for a little help.
A little while back I used this thread : [GUIDE] TF300T Unlock/Root/Flash for Factory JB Devices (newbie friendly)
To help me install this custom rom : [ROM][TF300]|Mar 28| Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Official JB 4.2.1 Stock or Themed ¯´·.¸¸. -
onto my girlfriends TF300T tablet
and I have this : [RECOVERY][TF300T/TG] TWRP 2.5.0.0 Touch Recovery! [2013-4-9] on there as well
but I can't remember if this was part of the unlock/root/flash process or not, so i'm not sure if it used it during the process or if I added it shortly afterword
now its been while since I have done it but then the tablet started to restart randomly while she was using it.
so I figured no biggie maybe an app got messed up or something, and so I told her to back up her pics, exc she wanted off the unit
and I could look at reinstalling the apps or just taking the unit back to factory rom
about a week later it started to reboot more often randomly
and now it is to the point where it will not make it into the rom
now I can make it into the boot selection where I can choose RCK (for the TWRP), USB, or the other 2 options
and I know I can make it into the TWRP tool as well and it does not repeatedly boot from there, so i'm sure its a rom issue and not a hardware issue, but I could still be wrong
the unit is currently charging so I have not had a chance to try for the usb connection option or anything else yet
hopefully the usb option will work so I can try to recover the pics, exc before taking the unit back to factory
now in the process I know I have unlocked the unit, I believe I have done the min root but have not fully rooted the unit if that makes sense
so i'm just wondering if I will half to fully root (and how do I do that if I do since I can't make it into a rom)
how do I clear the rom that has gone bad
how do I install a factory rom (how do I tell which is the lastest rom, and which one is needed for my unit)
and then I should be good from there
if you need any more info please let me know and maybe some instructions on how to get to that info
in the process of putting the energy rom onto it, I spent a week of reading, researching, and figuring out which way would probably be the safest for me to do, plus the easiest for me to understand
now that it has been so long I have been reading and researching again, I just need that nudge that gets me in the right direction
i'm sure i'm not the only one that has had this issue with a rom, and i'm also sure there is a guide out there already that goes over how to put it back to a factory rom
just for some reason i'm either over looking it or not finding it

allusion said:
So i'm looking for a little help.
A little while back I used this thread : [GUIDE] TF300T Unlock/Root/Flash for Factory JB Devices (newbie friendly)
To help me install this custom rom : [ROM][TF300]|Mar 28| Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Official JB 4.2.1 Stock or Themed ¯´·.¸¸. -
onto my girlfriends TF300T tablet
and I have this : [RECOVERY][TF300T/TG] TWRP 2.5.0.0 Touch Recovery! [2013-4-9] on there as well
but I can't remember if this was part of the unlock/root/flash process or not, so i'm not sure if it used it during the process or if I added it shortly afterword
now its been while since I have done it but then the tablet started to restart randomly while she was using it.
so I figured no biggie maybe an app got messed up or something, and so I told her to back up her pics, exc she wanted off the unit
and I could look at reinstalling the apps or just taking the unit back to factory rom
about a week later it started to reboot more often randomly
and now it is to the point where it will not make it into the rom
now I can make it into the boot selection where I can choose RCK (for the TWRP), USB, or the other 2 options
and I know I can make it into the TWRP tool as well and it does not repeatedly boot from there, so i'm sure its a rom issue and not a hardware issue, but I could still be wrong
the unit is currently charging so I have not had a chance to try for the usb connection option or anything else yet
hopefully the usb option will work so I can try to recover the pics, exc before taking the unit back to factory
now in the process I know I have unlocked the unit, I believe I have done the min root but have not fully rooted the unit if that makes sense
so i'm just wondering if I will half to fully root (and how do I do that if I do since I can't make it into a rom)
how do I clear the rom that has gone bad
how do I install a factory rom (how do I tell which is the lastest rom, and which one is needed for my unit)
and then I should be good from there
if you need any more info please let me know and maybe some instructions on how to get to that info
in the process of putting the energy rom onto it, I spent a week of reading, researching, and figuring out which way would probably be the safest for me to do, plus the easiest for me to understand
now that it has been so long I have been reading and researching again, I just need that nudge that gets me in the right direction
i'm sure i'm not the only one that has had this issue with a rom, and i'm also sure there is a guide out there already that goes over how to put it back to a factory rom
just for some reason i'm either over looking it or not finding it
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Its very simple to return to stock. But first, do you have the tablets drivers installed on your pc?
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And do you have fastboot?

if you are talking about the android sdk tools
yes that is installed on my computer from the first time I did the tablet
and I went ahead and did the updates for it as well
and tried plugging the unit in with the fastboot and confirm it shows up in device manager

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hope you didn't forget about me crazynitro

allusion said:
bump
hope you didn't forget about me crazynitro
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sorry, i got caught up with some school work. i could walk you through the process, if you want.

if you could please, any links, post, exc you want me to read ahead of time please post
anything you need me to verify or check on please let me know
gf starting to be up my butt about her tablet, lol
but yes any help is more then appreciated

allusion said:
if you could please, any links, post, exc you want me to read ahead of time please post
anything you need me to verify or check on please let me know
gf starting to be up my butt about her tablet, lol
but yes any help is more then appreciated
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Lol okay. Theres actually a more simple way.
1. Download the latest asus firmware.
2. Extract the zip file
3. Flash it like a normal rom.
If you cant use this method then you'll have to use fastboot. Here's a link but if you need any help, just ask : http://www.androidauthority.com/transformer-pad-tf300t-restore-stock-firmware-108016/

how do I check the sku according to that guide if i'm not able to load into the android os
that only shows if you can load into the os
would the box have that?

or now looking at the options that I should assume its is a US sku lol

crazynitro said:
3. Flash it like a normal rom.
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lol, and how do I do that using the twrp?
can't find any detailed instructions on using twrp on flashing a rom, especially the stock one
i'm sure there is a set of detailed instructions cause I swore I saw one once
but i'm not able to find it again
cause I thought besides using the install part there were things I had to clear as well for it to work
oh and yeah the download link for fastboot is no long working in the one guide you gave me to follow so not sure if I already have what it is talking about

allusion said:
lol, and how do I do that using the twrp?
can't find any detailed instructions on using twrp on flashing a rom, especially the stock one
i'm sure there is a set of detailed instructions cause I swore I saw one once
but i'm not able to find it again
cause I thought besides using the install part there were things I had to clear as well for it to work
oh and yeah the download link for fastboot is no long working in the one guide you gave me to follow so not sure if I already have what it is talking about
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Its simple lol. When you download the firmware from asus, its usually in a .zip form. In it, there is another zip file. Copy that zip file onto your tablet and flash it with twrp.

crazynitro said:
Its simple lol. When you download the firmware from asus, its usually in a .zip form. In it, there is another zip file. Copy that zip file onto your tablet and flash it with twrp.
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what about having to clear anything? I could of swore the instructions showed going to 2 or 3 spots for clearing data or info or something from the unit

allusion said:
what about having to clear anything? I could of swore the instructions showed going to 2 or 3 spots for clearing data or info or something from the unit
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Yes. You have to do a factory reset first.

and how do I do that lol, and what happens when I don't do that first

is this tablet now dead since the step of doing the reset was not complete? cause now I can not access twrp and it just sits there with the asus logo and the swirling dots
when I try to access the usb option all I have is rck, android and wipe, rck just gives a failure shortly after trying

allusion said:
lol, and how do I do that using the twrp?
can't find any detailed instructions on using twrp on flashing a rom, especially the stock one
i'm sure there is a set of detailed instructions cause I swore I saw one once
but i'm not able to find it again
cause I thought besides using the install part there were things I had to clear as well for it to work
oh and yeah the download link for fastboot is no long working in the one guide you gave me to follow so not sure if I already have what it is talking about
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If you want to use twrp, download the us stock firm ware. when you open it, you'll see a file that looks like this: "US_epad-user-10.6.1.15.3". copy that file onto your tablet and flash it like a normal rom. haha
For fastboot, if you have the android sdk, then you already have fastboot so you dont have to download fastboot again.
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allusion said:
is this tablet now dead since the step of doing the reset was not complete? cause now I can not access twrp and it just sits there with the asus logo and the swirling dots
when I try to access the usb option all I have is rck, android and wipe, rck just gives a failure shortly after trying
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if you tried installing the newest firmware, you wont see the usb icon when you press power and volume+ it automatically enters fastboot. you dont have to select anything
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allusion said:
and how do I do that lol, and what happens when I don't do that first
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if you cant enter twrp, then you dont have to worry about the factory reset you can flash the stock rom using fastboot.

[Q] Considering rooting the Nexus 5

So I have a black Nexus 5 with a capacity of 16GB. The device is only about 4 months old, so I still have it covered with warranty until June 2016. The device is as good as new and I'm very happy with it because everything is so fast and smooth.
Recently I've been thinking about rooting the device for maybe some little extras. For example, I have GTA SA installed but I would like to play it with the Cleo mod to have a little bit more fun. Or maybe I'll install some kind of adblocker so I could enjoy my brand new phone without the annoying gold diggers. Or perhaps I want to hide some apps from my app drawer so it would look neat and organised. Or I would like to install an apk that isn't available for non-rooted devices. Or in case I want to see the battery percentage next to the time display or anything like that.
As you can see I would only want to root it for rather small reasons. I definitely don't want to overclock anything because it already meets my criteria for speed, nor do I want to install any custom ROMs because I really like the pure android experience. So I have a few questions because I'm a total noob at the field of tweaking android:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
And is it actually 100% safe...?
So regarding to the last question... A friend of mine has a rooted Moto G, he made me familiar with rooting and it's probably thanks to him that I'm considering it. Everything was going well but there were a few times that he woke up and his phone wasn't worth more than a brick. Apparently, it was because of some ROM he installed. This probably won't affect me in any way because like I said, I'm not going to install any custom ROMs, but my friend expected everything to be normal while it wasn't. He probably did everything like it should be done but then he suddenly woke up with a brick next to his head. So apparently, even if you do everything exactly like they tell you to do it, there's still a slight chance that it's going to end up badly, right?
So basically, I'm considering rooting my device but I'm still not sure what I would have to do because there are lots of tutorials and everything is quite confusing and I have some questions. All the help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!

root/unlockbootloader/install twrp&busybox no data loss
root/unlockbootloader/install twrp&busybox no data loss without P.C, okay here we go mod's remove if you think it's not helping. download towelroot by geohot,now the rest from playstore, es file exploer,super su,busybox,reboot app,nexus unlock bootloader,
make sure you have security unknowen sources ticked and verify apps unticked.
download towelroot from chrome with es file exploer open and install hit make it rain tab, next install busybox,next install super su app.unlockbootloader with in the app.,install twrp and auto install recovery for hammerhead from twrp, now you should have full root after reboot.super user and busybox unlocked bootloader and twrp installed, and you know what the reboot app is for . no data loss and without a P.C, or you could use fastboot install just look in Q&A, kind regard's joe hope this help's.

Spaceblow said:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
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Yep; when you unlock bootloader of your device (before root), all of data will be wiped.
Spaceblow said:
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
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Nope. When you upgrade to Android L, it might be overwrite existing system clearly.
Spaceblow said:
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
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We are using Google Nexus. Just revert with Nexus Factory Image.
http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Spaceblow said:
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
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In my case, to connect NTFS filesystem.
Spaceblow said:
And is it actually 100% safe...?
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Maybe, but it's at your own risk.

Jongmin Kim said:
Yep; when you unlock your device (before root), all of data will be wiped.
Nope. When you upgrade to Android L, it might be overwrite existing system clearly.
No. We are using Google Nexus. Just revert with Nexus Factory Image.
http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
In my case, to connect NTFS filesystem.
Maybe, but it's at your own risk.
English is too difficult... I'm trying to understand right now.
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root and then unlock bootloader with the app from playstore. has to be this way. regard's p.s no data wiped ,

Spaceblow said:
So I have a black Nexus 5 with a capacity of 16GB. The device is only about 4 months old, so I still have it covered with warranty until June 2016. The device is as good as new and I'm very happy with it because everything is so fast and smooth.
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First of all:
Lethargy said:
I think OP got his question reversed. Should be:
"Why buy a Nexus 5 if you're not going to root?"
:angel:
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Spaceblow said:
So I have a few questions because I'm a total noob at the field of tweaking android:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
And is it actually 100% safe...?
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1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Spaceblow said:
So regarding to the last question... A friend of mine has a rooted Moto G, he made me familiar with rooting and it's probably thanks to him that I'm considering it. Everything was going well but there were a few times that he woke up and his phone wasn't worth more than a brick. Apparently, it was because of some ROM he installed. This probably won't affect me in any way because like I said, I'm not going to install any custom ROMs, but my friend expected everything to be normal while it wasn't. He probably did everything like it should be done but then he suddenly woke up with a brick next to his head. So apparently, even if you do everything exactly like they tell you to do it, there's still a slight chance that it's going to end up badly, right?
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Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore) and not as easy to develop for. The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Spaceblow said:
So basically, I'm considering rooting my device but I'm still not sure what I would have to do because there are lots of tutorials and everything is quite confusing and I have some questions. All the help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
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Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.

Lethargy said:
First of all:
1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore). The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.
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lol yeah i have to agree with you, but i find this help's when on the go,

joecool666 said:
lol yeah i have to agree with you, but i find this help's when on the go,
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If you don't have access to a PC, or you're using a locked-down Samsung/HTC/Moto/Sony/whatever device, then sure, go ahead and use the exploit methods.
But if you do have access to a PC, and it's a Nexus device, just do it properly, it'll cause fewer possible issues.

Lethargy said:
If you don't have access to a PC, or you're using a locked-down Samsung/HTC/Moto/Sony/whatever device, then sure, go ahead and use the exploit methods.
But if you do have access to a PC, and it's a Nexus device, just do it properly, it'll cause fewer possible issues.
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i do use my p.c and lg flashtool and fastboot.just incase lol.and it is the better way of doing it, p.s when OTG rooting don't forget to bring the XDA app.

joecool666 said:
root and then unlock bootloader with the app from playstore. has to be this way. regard's p.s no data wiped ,
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You mean Towelroot? I'm also considering this option because it would be nice to keep all my data.
Lethargy said:
First of all:
1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore) and not as easy to develop for. The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.
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This is some great information, thank you very much! So in case I would want to do it manually, this thread has everything I need (in combination with the 15 seconds ADB Installer)?

Spaceblow said:
This is some great information, thank you very much! So in case I would want to do it manually, this thread has everything I need (in combination with the 15 seconds ADB Installer)?
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Yep. :good: I also recommend using TWRP instead of CWM as your recovery. PhilZ Touch is also another good alternative, but it is no longer maintained and probably won't work for Lollipop's default encryption.
Latest SuperSU is located here, flashable in a custom recovery.

Lethargy said:
Yep. :good: I also recommend using TWRP instead of CWM as your recovery. PhilZ Touch is also another good alternative, but it is no longer maintained and probably won't work for Lollipop's default encryption.
Latest SuperSU is located here, flashable in a custom recovery.
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Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!

Spaceblow said:
Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!
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Cool. :good:
Even though you now have root access, I recommend using Bootunlocker or whatever app to unlock the bootloader from within Android (which doesn't wipe), then flashing a custom recovery with fastboot while in the bootloader anyways.
Why?
If something goes wrong and your phone doesn't boot, you'll have no choice but to unlock the bootloader WITH a wipe using fastboot, then flash a custom recovery or reflash factory images, unless you've done the above, in which case you can dirty-flash (no wipe) a stock ROM zip downloadable here. :angel:

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Spaceblow said:
Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!
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make sure you make a back up back up most important,regard's joe

To be clear, the *whole* phone including your sdcard partition will be wiped so make sure you back up before unlocking your bootloader. I would use an app like ES File Explorer and copy all your files to Dropbox or Google Drive if you dont have a computer but you'll need a computer anyway.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app

MrObvious said:
To be clear, the *whole* phone including your sdcard partition will be wiped
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If we want to be clear, we should also be accurate. The *whole* phone is not wiped. The /data partition is wiped, which includes /data/app (where user apps are stored) /data/data (where user settings and app data is stored) and /data/media (where /sdcard data is stored)

Lethargy said:
Cool. :good:
Even though you now have root access, I recommend using Bootunlocker or whatever app to unlock the bootloader from within Android (which doesn't wipe), then flashing a custom recovery with fastboot while in the bootloader anyways.
Why?
If something goes wrong and your phone doesn't boot, you'll have no choice but to unlock the bootloader WITH a wipe using fastboot, then flash a custom recovery or reflash factory images, unless you've done the above, in which case you can dirty-flash (no wipe) a stock ROM zip downloadable here. :angel:
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Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
joecool666 said:
make sure you make a back up back up most important,regard's joe
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By using Titanium Backup?

Spaceblow said:
Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
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All guides and info threads are in my signature. One such INFO thread is OTA help-desk, which explains that you can receive OTA with custom recovery, however there are extra steps.
However, please let me explain 1 thing. OTA is the ultimate noob move. Only root-noobs receive OTA updates. They are the most inconvenient method of updating your OS if you are rooted. Long before you even receive the OTA update, there will be a pre-rooted flashable.zip that can be flashed via recovery.
noobs will often say "but..but..but I wont have to wipe if I accept an OTA"... Little do they know... Even after an official OTA, things screw up. Whenever an OS is upgraded, a wipe is highly recommended as OTA's are imperfect and data between apps and settings conflicts between versions.
OTA is a fools errand if you're rooted. Now you're rooted, leave OTA to the unrooted and learn to manage your rooted device properly. All the info you could ever need is available in my signature as previously mentioned.

Spaceblow said:
Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
By using Titanium Backup?
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or helium back up

Owning a Nexus makes fastboot your best friend, especially if you have issues.
Read up on adb/fastboot and forget OTA's. Nothing like a clean fresh install of a new version. And there's many options to save /backup your data and important files.
Without learning fastboot and adb.... Simple fix issues can become major headaches.
Don't be intimidated. Read, learn, then do. ?
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@rootSU has everything you need in his sticky roll up thread.

rootSU said:
All guides and info threads are in my signature. One such INFO thread is OTA help-desk, which explains that you can receive OTA with custom recovery, however there are extra steps.
However, please let me explain 1 thing. OTA is the ultimate noob move. Only root-noobs receive OTA updates. They are the most inconvenient method of updating your OS if you are rooted. Long before you even receive the OTA update, there will be a pre-rooted flashable.zip that can be flashed via recovery.
noobs will often say "but..but..but I wont have to wipe if I accept an OTA"... Little do they know... Even after an official OTA, things screw up. Whenever an OS is upgraded, a wipe is highly recommended as OTA's are imperfect and data between apps and settings conflicts between versions.
OTA is a fools errand if you're rooted. Now you're rooted, leave OTA to the unrooted and learn to manage your rooted device properly. All the info you could ever need is available in my signature as previously mentioned.
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Well, you convinced me to take my N5 to a step further.
So I already Towelrooted my phone which gave me root access and an untouched bootloader and recovery. My next step would be to backup every app and all data to be sure in case something goes wrong, this would be done by using Titanium Backup. Then I should be unlocking the bootloader by simply using BootUnlocker for Nexus Devices so I wouldn't get my data wiped (I know I would be able to restore it with my backup but I rather do it a bit faster and less complex). When I did that, I have to head over to this thread and flash TWRP by following the instructions at "2. Installing a Custom Recovery".
So after all these steps my phone would have no limitations and it would be as unlocked as for example your Nexus 5, right?

[Q] How to take OTA update after Sunshine

Please forgive me for having to ask what I'm sure sounds like a stupid question, but I have no idea how to accept the OTA update Verizon is attempting to send me to version 4.4.4 on my HTC One M8 now that I have used Sunshine to attain S-Off and have TWRP and SuperSU installed.
I have used ADB, but am not very familiar with it at all.
I saw threads talking about flashing ROMS, but for the most part it really seems like Greek to me.
I had only gone down the Sunshine road because I wanted root access mainly for one app--Lightflow. In retrospect I'm feeling like I opened a can of worms. But the can is open, and the worms are out there, so now I need to learn how to handle them.
I know I am supposed to keep S-off, no matter what I do. I think perhaps I'm supposed to revert back somehow to a "stock" bootloader (instead of TWRP--is that right?) but I don't have any idea how to do that (though I expect ADB is involved), and I also don't know what effect that would have on SuperSu, as I vaguely recall TWRP may have been required for SuperSU to work.
I'm really lost.
Any help, in very easy to understand terms (pretend you're trying to explain this to your grandmother) would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Andyw2100 said:
Please forgive me for having to ask what I'm sure sounds like a stupid question, but I have no idea how to accept the OTA update Verizon is attempting to send me to version 4.4.4 on my HTC One M8 now that I have used Sunshine to attain S-Off and have TWRP and SuperSU installed.
I have used ADB, but am not very familiar with it at all.
I saw threads talking about flashing ROMS, but for the most part it really seems like Greek to me.
I had only gone down the Sunshine road because I wanted root access mainly for one app--Lightflow. In retrospect I'm feeling like I opened a can of worms. But the can is open, and the worms are out there, so now I need to learn how to handle them.
I know I am supposed to keep S-off, no matter what I do. I think perhaps I'm supposed to revert back somehow to a "stock" bootloader (instead of TWRP--is that right?) but I don't have any idea how to do that (though I expect ADB is involved), and I also don't know what effect that would have on SuperSu, as I vaguely recall TWRP may have been required for SuperSU to work.
I'm really lost.
Any help, in very easy to understand terms (pretend you're trying to explain this to your grandmother) would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Taking the OTA is simple, you'll need your stock 4.4.3 recovery installed not TWRP. If you try to take it as you are right now it will fail everytime because of TWRP. I'm going to assume you haven't modified your stock ROM in anyway so accept the OTA and let it install. You will not lose S-OFF so rooting is simple. Reinstall TWRP and flash the latest SuperSU zip file.

The Stig 04 said:
Taking the OTA is simple, you'll need your stock 4.4.3 recovery installed not TWRP. If you try to take it as you are right now it will fail everytime because of TWRP. I'm going to assume you haven't modified your stock ROM in anyway so accept the OTA and let it install. You will not lose S-OFF so rooting is simple. Reinstall TWRP and flash the latest SuperSU zip file.
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Thanks for the response.
So the question is how do I go back to my stock recovery instead of TWRP?
And then after taking the update, what do I need to do to reinstall TWRP and then flash the latest SuperSU.zip file?
I realize I should know this stuff, but I had help from the Sunshine folks last time, so I really don't remember everything that went on, or exactly what I did vs. what they did, etc.
Thanks again!

Andyw2100 said:
Thanks for the response.
So the question is how do I go back to my stock recovery instead of TWRP?
And then after taking the update, what do I need to do to reinstall TWRP and then flash the latest SuperSU.zip file?
I realize I should know this stuff, but I had help from the Sunshine folks last time, so I really don't remember everything that went on, or exactly what I did vs. what they did, etc.
Thanks again!
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You don't need to do any of that.
Download the exe from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56211035
run it and you will be on stock 4.4.4.
To get TWRP back you have to flash it fastboot (lots of tutorials all over the forum for that) and with the recovery installed you can just flash SuperSU in recovery to gain root again.

The Stig 04 said:
Taking the OTA is simple, you'll need your stock 4.4.3 recovery installed not TWRP. If you try to take it as you are right now it will fail everytime because of TWRP. I'm going to assume you haven't modified your stock ROM in anyway so accept the OTA and let it install. You will not lose S-OFF so rooting is simple. Reinstall TWRP and flash the latest SuperSU zip file.
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berndblb said:
You don't need to do any of that.
Download the exe from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56211035
run it and you will be on stock 4.4.4.
To get TWRP back you have to flash it fastboot (lots of tutorials all over the forum for that) and with the recovery installed you can just flash SuperSU in recovery to gain root again.
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Thanks. That thread says that using that .exe is going to wipe my phone, which would then mean I need to restore it from a backup. I think I'd really just rather take the OTA update to 4.4.4, since in the future I'm going to want to take other OTA updates as well. So if I can learn how to return to my stock recovery now, and the rest of it for this OTA update, I should be good to go for future OTA updates.
Thanks, though.
So my questions above remain about how to revert to the stock recovery, and then how to reinstall TWRP and SuperSU.
Thanks!

Andyw2100 said:
Thanks. That thread says that using that .exe is going to wipe my phone, which would then mean I need to restore it from a backup. I think I'd really just rather take the OTA update to 4.4.4, since in the future I'm going to want to take other OTA updates as well. So if I can learn how to return to my stock recovery now, and the rest of it for this OTA update, I should be good to go for future OTA updates.
Thanks, though.
So my questions above remain about how to revert to the stock recovery, and then how to reinstall TWRP and SuperSU.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
Download the file "Stock Recovery 4.4.3" from the thread above. Flash that using ADB, once you take the OTA and are on 4.4.4 Flash TWRP using ADB again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Download SuperSu from the thread above and place that in your SD Card. Boot into recovery and install it. Though you should already have this on your computer or SD Card.
Edit: I believe there is an even easier way, just have never done it/tried it so I don't wanna lie and act like I know what to do.

The Stig 04 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
Download the file "Stock Recovery 4.4.3" from the thread above. Flash that using ADB, once you take the OTA and are on 4.4.4 Flash TWRP using ADB again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Download SuperSu from the thread above and place that in your SD Card. Boot into recovery and install it.
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You have to flash the stock recovery in fastboot - not ADB. And you gotta make sure all the bloatware that comes with the original stock rom is in place or the OTA will fail (it does a "system integrity check" prior to applying the OTA). That can be a headache if you do not have a backup of apps you may have removed...
Each future update will be available within days of release here on XDA, either as a standalone firmware update or stock rooted rom or both. I would not take OTAs - ever.
Develop a solid backup routine and restoring your device is a 20 minute exercise...

Thanks to both of you.
I don't believe I removed any bloatware, so I think the OTA update should work.
How do I flash the stock recovery in fastboot?
Again, many thanks!

I just checked my ADB folder, and see a fastboot.exe there, so I imagine it's just a command like ADB. I'll give this a shot later. Again, many thanks to both of you for the assistance. I will post again with, hopefully, my good results, or with additional questions.
Thanks!

berndblb said:
You have to flash the stock recovery in fastboot - not ADB. And you gotta make sure all the bloatware that comes with the original stock rom is in place or the OTA will fail (it does a "system integrity check" prior to applying the OTA). That can be a headache if you do not have a backup of apps you may have removed...
Each future update will be available within days of release here on XDA, either as a standalone firmware update or stock rooted rom or both. I would not take OTAs - ever.
Develop a solid backup routine and restoring your device is a 20 minute exercise...
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Sorry I thought fastboot and ADB was kinda that same thing seeing as it was refereed to as "fastboot/adb directory"? If not my bad! Also this is the method I always use to take OTA's and have never ever had a problem.

Andyw2100 said:
I just checked my ADB folder, and see a fastboot.exe there, so I imagine it's just a command like ADB. I'll give this a shot later. Again, many thanks to both of you for the assistance. I will post again with, hopefully, my good results, or with additional questions.
Thanks!
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Put the recovery image into the same folder with your fastboot.exe
Open a command prompt from that folder (shift + right click > open cmd window here)
check connection with
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fastboot devices
if successful
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fastboot flash recovery <name of recovery>.img

Would you need to remove root before taking the OTA? Just curious.
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mumbles202 said:
Would you need to remove root before taking the OTA? Just curious.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using xda app-developers app
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No. You will lose root after the ota so it doesn't matter but you can always get it back as long as you are S-OFF by flashing a custom recovery like TWRP and then flashing SuperSu.

Well, I have run into a snag right off the bat.
While the command "ADB Devices" sees the phone, "Fastboot Devices" does not.
Any ideas as to how to rectify this?
Thanks!

I did some googling, and this problem I solved on my own.
I had to use adb to get into fastboot USB mode or something with adb reboot bootloader, and then fastboot devices worked.
I'm now continuing on.

Well, so much for this being easy.
I believe I successfully flashed my stock recovery.
But apparently I no longer have the OTA update ready to install, as at some point I tried to run it again just to get TWRP up, and now it's not showing as available. And when I try to check for updates in Settings/Software update/Check new I get an error message that says Download Unsuccessful. We were not able to download this update.
For now I guess I'll wait and see if Verizon tries to send me the update again, or if it works if I check for it myself some other time. (Or if anyone here has any suggestions.)
Also, I still seem to have root access. I thought that I wouldn't, since I believe I have replaced TWRP with the stock recovery.

I'm also now getting a constant error message about Google Play Services having stopped. And my wi-fi doesn't seem to be connecting properly.
I'm really wondering just what the heck I've done.

Well, for anyone still following my saga...
Things are somewhat better, but not totally resolved.
I kept checking, and eventually I was able to download the OTA update to 4.4.4. I did, I updated, and all went smoothly. I then was able to flash TWRP and then install Super SU and I have root access again. So on that front, all is well.
The problems that remain, though, are that I still am having issues with Google Play Services quitting and my Wi Fi not connecting. Could these things be related somehow? I've tried clearing the cache and then actually all data from Google Play services, but that has not helped. I have deleted my networks, and then tried reconnecting to them, but that also has not helped. It shows my networks in range as "saved" or "disabled" but won't connect to any of them.
Any ideas for me?
Thanks.
And thanks for the help in getting the 4.4.4 OTA update. At least that worked!

I realize I am basically having a conversation with myself at this point, but just to wrap things up, in case anyone does come along and read any of this...
I have solved all my issues.
The Google Play Services issue must have been related to the Wi-Fi not connecting, and the Wi-Fi not connecting was due to my main network actually having an issue and the fact that I had never authorized the phone on the other networks. I guess this is what happens after being up almost 24 hours. At least I think everything is OK now.
Again, thanks to those that helped!

Andyw2100 said:
I realize I am basically having a conversation with myself at this point, but just to wrap things up, in case anyone does come along and read any of this...
I have solved all my issues.
The Google Play Services issue must have been related to the Wi-Fi not connecting, and the Wi-Fi not connecting was due to my main network actually having an issue and the fact that I had never authorized the phone on the other networks. I guess this is what happens after being up almost 24 hours. At least I think everything is OK now.
Again, thanks to those that helped!
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Not sure why I stopped receiving notifications from your thread. But at least you got your phone in working order! lol

[Q] How to root this device without deleting any data?

Is it possible to root one plus one, without deleting any data and apps from it? I just want root access but don't want any custom rom.

yes, of course..
root doesn't delete any of your data

senaferdy79 said:
yes, of course..
root doesn't delete any of your data
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Thanks for that. How can I do that?
#newtorooting

senaferdy79 said:
yes, of course..
root doesn't delete any of your data
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That isn't technically true. In order to get root you must have a custom recovery installed. In order to install a custom recovery you must unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device.
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sourabhkejriwal said:
Thanks for that. How can I do that?
#newtorooting
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Sorry you got your hopes up, but the other poster isn't right. As per my reply to him you need to unlock your bootloader first, which is going to wipe your device. I'd suggest backing up any files that you have that are important to you. As for your apps and settings, you'll have to set them up again afterwards. Go to my guide thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guides-bacon-timmaaas-how-to-guides-t2839471
You need to follow (in order) sections 1, 2, 3, and 4. This will give you root access on your stock ROM. You should also follow section 10, it's very important that you make a backup of your EFS partition.

timmaaa said:
That isn't technically true. In order to get root you must have a custom recovery installed. In order to install a custom recovery you must unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device.[
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So are you saying all the many how to's that tell you that you can skip installing recover are wrong? Apparently, I don't have enough posts yet to create a link but I've seen posts here on XDA that say other wise and the one I have in front of me at the moment is from ibtimes . com titled "how-root-oneplus-one-install-twrp-recovery-1450708"
Their "Step-7" reads
Step-7: If you want to root the phone without installing TWRP recovery, type the following command
fastboot boot twrp.img
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I guess the real question being, why would you need a custom recovery?

pdhx said:
So are you saying all the many how to's that tell you that you can skip installing recover are wrong? Apparently, I don't have enough posts yet to create a link but I've seen posts here on XDA that say other wise and the one I have in front of me at the moment is from ibtimes . com titled "how-root-oneplus-one-install-twrp-recovery-1450708"
Their "Step-7" reads
I guess the real question being, why would you need a custom recovery?
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You're looking at outdated information. They used to be correct, but now they are wrong. This is because you can no longer use the fastboot boot recovery.img command with a locked bootloader. In fact, that functionality was removed quite some time ago.
You need a custom recovery because that's how you flash SuperSU to get root. There's no way around it.
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The default recovery will only flash cm signed zip, which is another reason for needing a custom recovery. That method you mention at ibtimes meant that it would allow you to, for one boot cycle, do a "live boot" of twrp
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But how is anything going to be written to the system partition if it is locked ?

timmaaa said:
You're looking at outdated information. They used to be correct, but now they are wrong. This is because you can no longer use the fastboot boot recovery.img command with a locked bootloader. In fact, that functionality was removed quite some time ago.
You need a custom recovery because that's how you flash SuperSU to get root. There's no way around it.
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Ugh, was afraid of that, you might want to add a comment to that effect to your guide....
Would have been nice to just add a setting to the default recovery to allow you to toggle whether you need a signed zip or not. Sucks that I could root my SGS III (which is far less hacker friendly than the One) without wiping it but I can't do that for the One, all i want is root for the moment. However, after playing around some more I'm getting stick before I even get that far; I can get ADB to find the device but when I adb reboot bootloader I cannot get fastboot to find the device. I've tried multiple drivers, different USB ports. When my One goes into fastboot the screen seems awfully dim, almost like it hasn't completely initialized, is that normal? And if so, any suggestions on why I can get adb to work but not fastboot?

pdhx said:
Ugh, was afraid of that, you might want to add a comment to that effect to your guide....
Would have been nice to just add a setting to the default recovery to allow you to toggle whether you need a signed zip or not. Sucks that I could root my SGS III (which is far less hacker friendly than the One) without wiping it but I can't do that for the One, all i want is root for the moment. However, after playing around some more I'm getting stick before I even get that far; I can get ADB to find the device but when I adb reboot bootloader I cannot get fastboot to find the device. I've tried multiple drivers, different USB ports. When my One goes into fastboot the screen seems awfully dim, almost like it hasn't completely initialized, is that normal? And if so, any suggestions on why I can get adb to work but not fastboot?
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The one's bootloader is not like a nexus one where you can at least reboot recovery etc, once it boots thats it
what do get when you type fastboot devices ?

bombadier said:
The one's bootloader is not like a nexus one where you can at least reboot recovery etc, once it boots thats it
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Which seems to be somewhat limiting for such an otherwise developer friendly device?
bombadier said:
what do get when you type fastboot devices ?
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Nada, nothing, nil. however, "adb devices" works fine... WTF?

pdhx said:
Which seems to be somewhat limiting for such an otherwise developer friendly device?
Nada, nothing, nil. however, "adb devices" works fine... WTF?
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Point one was just to say there is not anything really you can do in the bootloader, being able to reboot to recovery etc is actually a handy feature
Try a different fastboot.exe ? if you say that adb works perfectly then there has to be something wrong with your fastboot binary
I have attached my one,download and change the name back to .exe and see what happens
Going to need more info in order to help

bombadier said:
Point one was just to say there is not anything really you can do in the bootloader, being able to reboot to recovery etc is actually a handy feature
Try a different fastboot.exe ? if you say that adb works perfectly then there has to be something wrong with your fastboot binary
I have attached my one,download and change the name back to .exe and see what happens
Going to need more info in order to help
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Fair point about bootloader, what I don't get is why they forced you to have to do the unlock to root? All I started out wanting to do was install Titanium and run a Nandroid or two. Guess if I'm going to have to wipe I guess I may end up installing a Lollipop ROM. However, I still can't get there. The fast boot you supplied gives the same problem. I was running the latest fastboot from the Android SDK and your's appears to be the same (though I haven't done a binary compare). As far as I can tell that leaves the device drivers, the laptop, or the phone itself. I'm running Win 7 SP 1 64 bit and I've tried various drivers including the Samsung the Google generic and they make no difference. Not sure how they would since adb works but I've seen some suggestions that drivers can be finicky in this regard.
What else can I tell you that might help?
Seems since I can get into the recovery that comes with the phone I could maybe get a works around somehow?

pdhx said:
Fair point about bootloader, what I don't get is why they forced you to have to do the unlock to root? All I started out wanting to do was install Titanium and run a Nandroid or two. Guess if I'm going to have to wipe I guess I may end up installing a Lollipop ROM. However, I still can't get there. The fast boot you supplied gives the same problem. I was running the latest fastboot from the Android SDK and your's appears to be the same (though I haven't done a binary compare). As far as I can tell that leaves the device drivers, the laptop, or the phone itself. I'm running Win 7 SP 1 64 bit and I've tried various drivers including the Samsung the Google generic and they make no difference. Not sure how they would since adb works but I've seen some suggestions that drivers can be finicky in this regard.
What else can I tell you that might help?
Seems since I can get into the recovery that comes with the phone I could maybe get a works around somehow?
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They're "forcing" you to unlock the bootloader in order to root the device because that's the universally accepted standard (unlock bootloader, install custom recovery, flash root). Some devices have super secure bootloaders and that's why you end up needing to use hacks to get those devices rooted, but that isn't the normal way to go about it. Anyway, there's no advantage to leaving the bootloader at all. There's also no disadvantage to unlocking the bootloader at all. You might say that the fact that the device is wiped during the unlocking process is a disadvantage, but that fact is very well documented both here, on the OnePlus forums, and pretty much any other reputable tech site that mentions unlocking the bootloader on this phone. The point to that last sentence? It pays to research a device thoroughly before buying it, or before using it, the wiping of the device is no issue at all if you do it when you receive the phone (prior to using it), like many people have. But in your situation you're just going to have to backup any important media from the phone prior to unlocking.
Anyway, on to your fastboot issue. Exactly which drivers do you have installed on your PC? Do you have any other phone drivers or software installed on the PC? And do you have access to another PC in case the one you're using is the source of the issue?

Got it, 27th try (give or take) is the charm.... Had to use USBdeview and uninstall the Google and the Qualcomm drivers. Reinstalled the Google drivers (after a reboot) and got it to work. Guess I could have figured that out from dev manager by watching what drivers got activated while fastboot was active but nothing ever jumped out at me as an obvious culprit.
Interesting to note that TWRP now automatically prompts you to install SuperSU if you reboot after installing it. Maybe it found the zip but either way, nice touch!
Now to go and decide what ROM to install....
Thanks for your help!

I would suggest temasek unofficial cm12 ROM. Been using it pretty much as a daily driver since version 1.something of the ROM and no problems. At this point it's been almost a month of not having to boot into my cm11s ROM lol. I use it with AK kernel, seems like a good match cuz both devs are working together looks like. Flash AK ukm special edition after flashing his kernel and install synapse from play store if you want to play around with settings of the kernel
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zenix23456 said:
I have been using AnyRooter for months and it is quite good to root OnePlus phones.
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Except the Oneplus One.

Should we stay on stock for right now?

What should we do? For myself at this moment, I do not need root or custom roms. I have read many people recommending staying on stock for OTAs updates right now. The only reason I want TWPR is for the nandroid backups of the stock rom. Is it even possible to update stock, the OTA updates and reapply the unlock bootloader and TWPR afterwards? I know TWPR is still being working on at this moment. Also, is there even a stock rom [for FRD-AL04???] without root available through TWPR right now?
I believe I have FRD-AL04 which is the US/32 gig phone, right? Is this the correct model? Here is the link to amazon page.

Mine is the US 32gb black Honor 8 and model number is FRD-L04
Edit: Check your model number in the Settings > About Phone screen.
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On whether to stay stock or not... it's up to you. I unlocked my phone, which wipes it, then installed TWRP and SuperSU for root. Kept the ROM stock. But then I realized I forgot to do OTA updates first. Doing a quick update failed because TWRP didn't know what to do. I then selected a "Full Update" in the menu of the Updater. This actually completely wiped out my unlocked bootloader, recovery and root in one swoop. So now I am back to stock it seems so I'll have to unlock and start over if I want to redo it. But I'm not sure I am going to. I started using Helium made by the team that made ClockworkMod. It isnt able to back up ALL app data, but it does get a nice chunk of it which I think will be good enough for me for now.

Stay on stock until company stops pushing out OTA updates. I do this on all my phones.

tekkitan said:
Mine is the US 32gb black Honor 8 and model number is FRD-L04
Edit: Check your model number in the Settings > About Phone screen.
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On whether to stay stock or not... it's up to you. I unlocked my phone, which wipes it, then installed TWRP and SuperSU for root. Kept the ROM stock. But then I realized I forgot to do OTA updates first. Doing a quick update failed because TWRP didn't know what to do. I then selected a "Full Update" in the menu of the Updater. This actually completely wiped out my unlocked bootloader, recovery and root in one swoop. So now I am back to stock it seems so I'll have to unlock and start over if I want to redo it. But I'm not sure I am going to. I started using Helium made by the team that made ClockworkMod. It isnt able to back up ALL app data, but it does get a nice chunk of it which I think will be good enough for me for now.
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Few questions if you don't mind.
1. Are you saying that even with unlocked bootloader and custom recovery you're still able to accept the OTA?
2. How would you restore the apps&data after accepting the OTA and going throu the unlocking/rooting process over again? Does Helium handle this w/o problems?
Thanks.

well, your question is complicated... but it has many type of sollutions
1.if its the nandroid backup is the only thing you want, then try backing up via honorsuit app,,
2.you can unlock the bootloader( dont worry you still be getting updates after this)
install twrp
make a backup
and find if someone did a backup with stock recovery
grab it
restore..
now you have your backup and youl be elligable for ota
3. if theres no one done a backup of stock recovery, dont worry... you can do it
unlock bootloader
now type fastboot devices
fastboot boot recovery twrp.img
this will temperorily boot twrp and you can have your backup
and BTW, you better be on stock, because, there is no stable custom rom yet and you are nearly getting a nougat update..:good:

mimin0 said:
Few questions if you don't mind.
1. Are you saying that even with unlocked bootloader and custom recovery you're still able to accept the OTA?
2. How would you restore the apps&data after accepting the OTA and going throu the unlocking/rooting process over again? Does Helium handle this w/o problems?
Thanks.
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1. Yes, but only if you select the FULL download update in the menu of the updater (which says it's around 1.6GB). This will wipe out your unlock, TWRP and root though. At least it did for me.
2. I don't know, I didn't re-unlock it because it was going to wipe my phone again. I decided to stay stock for now using Helium backup to backup my apps, SMS, etc.

tekkitan said:
Mine is the US 32gb black Honor 8 and model number is FRD-L04
Edit: Check your model number in the Settings > About Phone screen.
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I started using Helium made by the team that made ClockworkMod. It isnt able to back up ALL app data, but it does get a nice chunk of it which I think will be good enough for me for now.
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I can't even get Helium to get past asking me for PTP mode on my H8. Even though I select PTP in the notifications and/or in the dev settings.

scoobydu said:
I can't even get Helium to get past asking me for PTP mode on my H8. Even though I select PTP in the notifications and/or in the dev settings.
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I also had this problem at first. I ended up having to switch from using their chrome add-on to installing the client for my OS (OS X in my case). So if you're using the chrome add-on try installing one of the clients instead.

tekkitan said:
I also had this problem at first. I ended up having to switch from using their chrome add-on to installing the client for my OS (OS X in my case). So if you're using the chrome add-on try installing one of the clients instead.
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Ok thanks, but I am already using the OSX app myself. Managed to get it to work just now, had to reboot and now can't get it to work again. Some say to select 'midi' instead of ptp to get it to work, but that doesn't work for me either. Seems its a timing thing and I have't worked it out yet.
Not having a cross platform backup mechanism certainly doesn't help people stay stock without root imho.