I noticed pdadb just listed a version of the Gear S3 Classic with LTE (model SM-R775S):
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10937&c=samsung_sm-r775s_gear_s3_classic_lte
This version only supports LTE Band 5 (850 MHz), so it is limited to SK Telecom in South Korea. What are the odds that Samsung will eventually release the Gear S3 Classic with LTE internationally? I like the look of the Classic better than the Frontier, and I was disappointed that only the Frontier would include LTE in the US.
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I noticed pdadb just listed a version of the Gear S3 Classic with LTE (model SM-R775S):
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10937&c=samsung_sm-r775s_gear_s3_classic_lte
This version only supports LTE Band 5 (850 MHz), so it is limited to SK Telecom in South Korea. What are the odds that Samsung will eventually release the Gear S3 Classic with LTE internationally? I like the look of the Classic better than the Frontier, and I was disappointed that only the Frontier would include LTE in the US.
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It's tough to say, it's been reported that the S3 isn't replacing the S2. I'm sure it's because of the Note 7 fiasco, Samsung needed to convince users that they're still better than other companies so they probably rushed the new Gear S3's out. I don't doubt in the future that all versions of the Gear's will eventually have the option for LTE but I doubt they will for this generation.
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It's tough to say, it's been reported that the S3 isn't replacing the S2. I'm sure it's because of the Note 7 fiasco, Samsung needed to convince users that they're still better than other companies so they probably rushed the new Gear S3's out. I don't doubt in the future that all versions of the Gear's will eventually have the option for LTE but I doubt they will for this generation.
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Yeah, you've definitely put a lot of thought into making the Gear S3 being rushed anaylsis. Almost 3 months after announcements or introductions rather and it's now hitting the streets right? I think that you have it all figured out and should be Samsung's new CEO. Again, great analysis and spendid remarks relating the release to the "Note 7 fiasco". You're great man. Need more insight like yours. Haha.
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It's tough to say, it's been reported that the S3 isn't replacing the S2. I'm sure it's because of the Note 7 fiasco, Samsung needed to convince users that they're still better than other companies so they probably rushed the new Gear S3's out. I don't doubt in the future that all versions of the Gear's will eventually have the option for LTE but I doubt they will for this generation.
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The Gear S2 was released a year ago in October so a new Gear a year later is in keeping with an annual upgrade cycle. Samsung threw the kitchen sink at the Gear S3 - MST payments, a new power efficient 14nm SoC, 8M color always on display, huge battery (for a wearable), watch-grade stainless steel, extra sensors, LTE, stand-alone GPS that works (previous Gear's were a joke), and knurled details on the bezel and buttons. That's a heap load of stuff for a "rushed" watch. To accommodate all that stuff the Gear S3 is considerably larger. Keeping the Gear S2 and updating its s/w makes sense for people looking for a less formidable wearable. Samsung want to sell wearables and I'm sure would be just as happy to sell Gear S2's alongside the S3.
A recent poll on another mobile website had the Frontier picked as more desirable over the Classic by 3:1. So offering only the Frontier in LTE initially seems like a sound choice. You can dress the Frontier up with the Classic's leather band but the Frontier's silicone bands will look goofy on the Classic. The Frontier launched in Korea has three LTE bands. So the site saying a Classic with one LTE band is coming doesn't sound right. But if it's on the Internet it must be true.
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Yeah, you've definitely put a lot of thought into making the Gear S3 being rushed anaylsis. Almost 3 months after announcements or introductions rather and it's now hitting the streets right? I think that you have it all figured out and should be Samsung's new CEO. Again, great analysis and spendid remarks relating the release to the "Note 7 fiasco". You're great man. Need more insight like yours. Haha.
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The Gear S2 was released a year ago in October so a new Gear a year later is in keeping with an annual upgrade cycle. Samsung threw the kitchen sink at the Gear S3 - MST payments, a new power efficient 14nm SoC, 8M color always on display, huge battery (for a wearable), watch-grade stainless steel, extra sensors, LTE, stand-alone GPS that works (previous Gear's were a joke), and knurled details on the bezel and buttons. That's a heap load of stuff for a "rushed" watch. To accommodate all that stuff the Gear S3 is considerably larger. Keeping the Gear S2 and updating its s/w makes sense for people looking for a less formidable wearable. Samsung want to sell wearables and I'm sure would be just as happy to sell Gear S2's alongside the S3.
A recent poll on another mobile website had the Frontier picked as more desirable over the Classic by 3:1. So offering only the Frontier in LTE initially seems like a sound choice. You can dress the Frontier up with the Classic's leather band but the Frontier's silicone bands will look goofy on the Classic. The Frontier launched in Korea has three LTE bands. So the site saying a Classic with one LTE band is coming doesn't sound right. But if it's on the Internet it must be true.
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Well pardon me guys, I'm just going off of other articles that I've read. I don't own one, never have. But I answered a vague question that cannot be answered without Samsung officially announcing anything. Now, do a quick Google search and you'll see everything I have said, outside of my own personal opinions. I'm surprised the mods here let you two bash members on here for attempting to help out other fellow members.
Here's a quote and a link for you guys, enjoy:
"With the Gear S3 officially not "replacing" the Gear S2, both lines are intended to complement each other. So even though the Gear S3 has more features than the Gear S2, the shift in design and bulk may mean styling will be the biggest differentiator when thinking about picking one of them up."
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-gear-s3-vs-gear-s2-comparison-714588/
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Well pardon me guys, I'm just going off of other articles that I've read. I don't own one, never have. But I answered a vague question that cannot be answered without Samsung officially announcing anything. Now, do a quick Google search and you'll see everything I have said, outside of my own personal opinions. I'm surprised the mods here let you two bash members on here for attempting to help out other fellow members.
Here's a quote and a link for you guys, enjoy:
"With the Gear S3 officially not "replacing" the Gear S2, both lines are intended to complement each other. So even though the Gear S3 has more features than the Gear S2, the shift in design and bulk may mean styling will be the biggest differentiator when thinking about picking one of them up."
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I was reacting to your comments about the Gear S3 being rushed. What you just posted has nothing to do with that. At the Gear S3 announcement Samsung said the Gear S2 would carry on and be updated. So I'm kind of confused as to what your original post was meant to convey. The Gear S2 continuing to be sold has nothing to do with the timing or positioning of the Gear S3 and a twelve month development cycle certainly doesn't point to it being rushed.
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I was reacting to your comments about the Gear S3 being rushed. What you just posted has nothing to do with that. At the Gear S3 announcement Samsung said the Gear S2 would carry on and be updated. So I'm kind of confused as to what your original post was meant to convey. The Gear S2 continuing to be sold has nothing to do with the timing or positioning of the Gear S3 and a twelve month development cycle certainly doesn't point to it being rushed.
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Samsung took a big hit after the note 7 issue, would you agree? Ok, good. When did the note 7 get recognized as a problem but Samsung officially and compare it to when Samsung announced the gear S3. Evidence shows that they probably changed plans to release earlier than intended. I'm just connecting the dots and obviously it's my own opinion, the original question couldn't be answered in any other way because Samsung hasn't made any announcements regarding what the OP was asking. Your logic is saying that the S7 didn't replace the S6, when it did, just like the S6 replaced the S5. Just because a company still supports it doesn't mean that it hasn't been replaced. But Samsung OFFICIALLY stated that the Gear S3 wasn't a replacement for the S2. Anyways, I'm not here to raise my post count, I was here to attempt to help so I'd recommend contributing to the thread from this point forward.
Thanks for the insightful replies.
I reviewed the history of the Gear S2 Classic, and the LTE version was released in the US in March of 2016, around the time of MWC. Therefore, I am predicting we will see an LTE version of the Gear S3 classic released at the end of Q1 2017. However, it probably depends on how well the other versions of the Gear S3 sell between now and then.
I think I will wait. By then Google will likely have released their own Android Wear watches, and other manufacturers will probably be introducing new Android Wear 2.0 wearables.
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I think I will wait. By then Google will likely have released their own Android Wear watches, and other manufacturers will probably be introducing new Android Wear 2.0 wearables.
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You're probably right. The next generation of Android Wear watches will move towards standalone capability. A new crop of SIM enabled watches along the lines of the LG Urbane 2 will be launched next year.
As an unwavering Google Voice user, I have been anxiously awaiting the arrival of AW 2.0 devices in order to transition to a watch phone. But unexpectedly needing a new phone sooner rather than later and Samsung adding MST to their watch was sufficient to make me pull the trigger now. Since smartwatch technology is still in its infancy, I only expect 18-24 months of useful life from any of them. So I'll reassess the landscape when AW 3.0 arrives.
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Samsung took a big hit after the note 7 issue, would you agree? Ok, good. When did the note 7 get recognized as a problem but Samsung officially and compare it to when Samsung announced the gear S3. Evidence shows that they probably changed plans to release earlier than intended. I'm just connecting the dots and obviously it's my own opinion, the original question couldn't be answered in any other way because Samsung hasn't made any announcements regarding what the OP was asking. Your logic is saying that the S7 didn't replace the S6, when it did, just like the S6 replaced the S5. Just because a company still supports it doesn't mean that it hasn't been replaced. But Samsung OFFICIALLY stated that the Gear S3 wasn't a replacement for the S2. Anyways, I'm not here to raise my post count, I was here to attempt to help so I'd recommend contributing to the thread from this point forward.
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Have you ever worked at a Fortune 100 equivalent sized company? It appears not. Products aren't developed singularly or sequentially - many are developed in tandem and with months long lead times.
I'm very familiar with the Note7, I had two before ending up exchanged in to a S7 Edge. What was going on with the Note7 and mobile phone division most likely had little or no impact on Gear development. I'm pretty confident they're product managed by different internal groups. I'm equally confident the goal with the launch of the Gear S3 was to get it out as close to concurrently with the Apple Watch Series 2 and before the holidays. From a business perspective that's a more important reason to get it to market then making it a "look over here" to somehow take attention off the Note7 debacle. With that said the Gear S3 is late not early. Wearables are a drop in the bucket revenue wise to Samsung (and Apple and all others who sell them) and I assure you after losing $5B and 10% of their market cap over the Note7 a watch, any watch, isn't going to distract from that.
P.S. - I've run product management for a Fortune 100 equivalent company.
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Supposedly in Korea they are selling about 2,000 per day half being the BT Sport and Classic and the other half the 3G models. The Classic model has sold out of its initial inventory. The S2 is selling twice as fast as the original S1 model. I think if they can get more apps, it should easily be the best selling Gear watch thus far. I wish I could find the Classic somewhere, Samsung should have made a lot more.
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Supposedly in Korea they are selling about 2,000 per day half being the BT Sport and Classic and the other half the 3G models. The Classic model has sold out of its initial inventory. The S2 is selling twice as fast as the original S1 model. I think if they can get more apps, it should easily be the best selling Gear watch thus far. I wish I could find the Classic somewhere, Samsung should have made a lot more.
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Do work for Samsung? I am a Samsung Fanboy, and they couldn't give me an S2 for free!
Trying to figure out what all people see in the S2 that I don't!
BTW, there are a lot of returns with the S2 , oh, that maybe only in the USA!
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Do work for Samsung? I am a Samsung Fanboy, and they couldn't give me an S2 for free!
Trying to figure out what all people see in the S2 that I don't!
BTW, there are a lot of returns with the S2 , oh, that maybe only in the USA!
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I own an s2 and a gear2 neo and moto 360. S2 best smart watch I have owned so far. You can give me your free one.
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Do work for Samsung? I am a Samsung Fanboy, and they couldn't give me an S2 for free!
Trying to figure out what all people see in the S2 that I don't!
BTW, there are a lot of returns with the S2 , oh, that maybe only in the USA!
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I don't work for Samsung, but please give me your free S2, I would love to have it.
I can't even get a S2 Classic at all.
Thank you...
CehowardNote3 said:
Do work for Samsung? I am a Samsung Fanboy, and they couldn't give me an S2 for free!
Trying to figure out what all people see in the S2 that I don't!
BTW, there are a lot of returns with the S2 , oh, that maybe only in the USA!
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Care to elaborate why? Just interested seeing i'm thinking about buying one as my first smartwatch.
To all that replied. I would SURELY give all of you the FREE ONE if they gave it to me.. ditto for the Note 5 too.
There are a lot of us that are Samsung Fans, but when Samsung started cutting features, and down sizing, some of us jumped ship, that is a known fact.
Cryps, the reason I am passed big time on the S2, first, they made is smaller. They could have made it 20 to 25% bigger, and I think they would keep a lot of users, not all but more than now. Also, there is NO SPEAKER on the regular S2, I think you have to get the yet to come out in the US 3g model to have a speaker.. My Gear S, has a speaker, and can take and make calls. Also, I would love to see somebody text from the S2. That would be some sight on a 1 and 1/2 inch round screen!
Look, I am not ALONE on this.. Again, Ditto for the Note 5. They couldn't give me one of those either. I have 85 gbs of data on my 128gb card in my Note 5, also, I am 15 seconds away from a full 100% when my battery run downs.. These are "must haves" for me..
Back to the S2, I am GLAD that a lot users like it, but you all must acknowledge that the S2 and the Note 5 turned off a LOT OF LOYAL USERS of those two devices.. Maybe Samsung picked up some NEW users, but they surely lost some of their users with the cutting of features and downsizing.. A lot of users! That is why I questioned the high sales figures..I broke my neck getting to the Gear S and the Note 4, now you put me on a cliff and tell me I have to take the S2 and Note 5 or jump, I am jumping!! No, is not that bad, but I wouldn't have one of those, it would be a nightmare for me..
Again, I would gladly give an S2 away if they gave me one. But, the fact of the matter, they couldn't PAY me to take one..No kidding...
EDIT: Just saw this about the S2, in another thread, but on the same topic line as mine with the same opinion as mine..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s2/general/upgraded-gear-2-neo-dont-t3231843
Well Samsung can't please everybody. And, based on poor sales of the earlier Gear watches, the "LOYAL USERS" are VERY small group. I'm glad Samsung has put out a watch for the rest of us who don't want a freaking smartphone on their arm.
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Well Samsung can't please everybody. And, based on poor sales of the earlier Gear watches, the "LOYAL USERS" are VERY small group. I'm glad Samsung has put out a watch for the rest of us who don't want a freaking smartphone on their arm.
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Glad for you too. Wishing great success for the S2 and all its implementations.
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To all that replied. I would SURELY give all of you the FREE ONE if they gave it to me.. ditto for the Note 5 too.
There are a lot of us that are Samsung Fans, but when Samsung started cutting features, and down sizing, some of us jumped ship, that is a known fact.
Cryps, the reason I am passed big time on the S2, first, they made is smaller. They could have made it 20 to 25% bigger, and I think they would keep a lot of users, not all but more than now. Also, there is NO SPEAKER on the regular S2, I think you have to get the yet to come out in the US 3g model to have a speaker.. My Gear S, has a speaker, and can take and make calls. Also, I would love to see somebody text from the S2. That would be some sight on a 1 and 1/2 inch round screen!
Look, I am not ALONE on this.. Again, Ditto for the Note 5. They couldn't give me one of those either. I have 85 gbs of data on my 128gb card in my Note 5, also, I am 15 seconds away from a full 100% when my battery run downs.. These are "must haves" for me..
Back to the S2, I am GLAD that a lot users like it, but you all must acknowledge that the S2 and the Note 5 turned off a LOT OF LOYAL USERS of those two devices.. Maybe Samsung picked up some NEW users, but they surely lost some of their users with the cutting of features and downsizing.. A lot of users! That is why I questioned the high sales figures..I broke my neck getting to the Gear S and the Note 4, now you put me on a cliff and tell me I have to take the S2 and Note 5 or jump, I am jumping!! No, is not that bad, but I wouldn't have one of those, it would be a nightmare for me..
Again, I would gladly give an S2 away if they gave me one. But, the fact of the matter, they couldn't PAY me to take one..No kidding...
EDIT: Just saw this about the S2, in another thread, but on the same topic line as mine with the same opinion as mine..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s2/general/upgraded-gear-2-neo-dont-t3231843
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I find this all rather amusing. Imagine if car customers acted like this.
You're a big fan of the Chevy Suburban SUV. It can seat 9, TVs in the back, full surround sound, has 4 wheel drive, and does just about everything you want. You're super happy with it.
A year later Chevy comes out with a new Corvette. It's really fast, has good looks, only seats 2, and is limited to driving on paved roads. Doesn't meet your needs at all.
Does this now mean Chevy doesn't appreciate you? Has Chevy abandoned you?
It's not like there's some next gen hardware in the S2 compared to the original S. Same processor. Same screen technology. It's just a smaller, faster, more streamlined model for a different crowd. It's not personal.
And how is this a challenge to understand for you? People like different things. Samsung makes many different TVs, phones, watches, etc, for many different kinds of consumers. Just because every model isn't to your liking don't take it as a personal insult directed at you.
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I find this all rather amusing. Imagine if car customers acted like this.
You're a big fan of the Chevy Suburban SUV. It can seat 9, TVs in the back, full surround sound, has 4 wheel drive, and does just about everything you want. You're super happy with it.
A year later Chevy comes out with a new Corvette. It's really fast, has good looks, only seats 2, and is limited to driving on paved roads. Doesn't meet your needs at all.
Does this now mean Chevy doesn't appreciate you? Has Chevy abandoned you?
It's not like there's some next gen hardware in the S2 compared to the original S. Same processor. Same screen technology. It's just a smaller, faster, more streamlined model for a different crowd. It's not personal.
And how is this a challenge to understand for you? People like different things. Samsung makes many different TVs, phones, watches, etc, for many different kinds of consumers. Just because every model isn't to your liking don't take it as a personal insult directed at you.
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Very good point!:good:
However, my point was there was a group of users that were really into this particular device/model that they would break their necks getting to the counter to get the upgade model! However, it seem like features were dropped a new design implemented! So instead of that group rushing to get one, there is a lot of hesitation and even frowning at the new offering! Trust me, there are a lot of past model users that feel that way.
That is all what I was saying. Not insulted, but disappointed big time,
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/11/gear-s2-samsungs-route-back-wearables-gam.html
Samsung sold 180,000 of these in China in 8 hours at one online retail shop and they still don't have enough to go around.
Android wear sold 720,000 total all of last year. Something to think about and I even had a Moto 360 V1 at one point.
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http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/11/gear-s2-samsungs-route-back-wearables-gam.html
Samsung sold 180,000 of these in China in 8 hours at one online retail shop and they still don't have enough to go around.
Android wear sold 720,000 total all of last year. Something to think about and I even had a Moto 360 V1 at one point.
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That's great!!
However, there is a big difference in Chinese taste and American taste!
It's coming. In fact, if LG hadn't run into a problem with some custom hardware, the Urbane Second Edition, with full 3G/4G/LTE capability, would be in direct competition with the S2 right now.
My Huawei AW watch has a speaker. So it's ready to become a BT tethered calling device when that's released. It won't be long before AW watch manufacturers release a full LTE version like the S2.
So, when that happens, what does the S2 have over AW? One thing for sure is a better UI, including the clever rotating bezel. However, in terms of any other really significant features/capabilities, AW leaves the G2 in the dust.
I've got a G2, and it's my "daily driver" at the moment, but only because I can make and recieve calls on it. The 3G is simply an extension of that for me, but not critical; it's a nice feature.
Unless Samsung really steps up to the plate and fixes some serious problems with the G2 (S-Voice accuracy and capability tops the list), I'll be going back to AW when I can use my watch for calls.
Don't get me wrong... I really like the S2. But the edge it has right now -- UI design and 3G -- will evaporate quickly probably this year, and the main deal-breaker will once again be app availability and developer support. Something Samsung doesn't have a prayer of competing with Android on, especially considering the apparently meager resources and investment they're making to compete.
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It's coming. In fact, if LG hadn't run into a problem with some custom hardware, the Urbane Second Edition, with full 3G/4G/LTE capability, would be in direct competition with the S2 right now.
My Huawei AW watch has a speaker. So it's ready to become a BT tethered calling device when that's released. It won't be long before AW watch manufacturers release a full LTE version like the S2.
So, when that happens, what does the S2 have over AW? One thing for sure is a better UI, including the clever rotating bezel. However, in terms of any other really significant features/capabilities, AW leaves the G2 in the dust.
I've got a G2, and it's my "daily driver" at the moment, but only because I can make and recieve calls on it. The 3G is simply an extension of that for me, but not critical; it's a nice feature.
Unless Samsung really steps up to the plate and fixes some serious problems with the G2 (S-Voice accuracy and capability tops the list), I'll be going back to AW when I can use my watch for calls.
Don't get me wrong... I really like the S2. But the edge it has right now -- UI design and 3G -- will evaporate quickly probably this year, and the main deal-breaker will once again be app availability and developer support. Something Samsung doesn't have a prayer of competing with Android on, especially considering the apparently meager resources and investment they're making to compete.
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Agreed. I love my Gear S2 3G but I would ditch it quickly once AW watches with speakers & 3G/4G and a true always-on mode come out with compelling designs.
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I really miss the call function from my Gear 2 - once again Samsung has a great feature and drops the ball only for a competitor to pick it and improve it
If Samsung keeps making devices as compelling as the S2 I will hang around. They need to keep building off the app market they started with the S2 so it becomes robust and not an issue for future iterations. The only other thing I feel needs real improvement is S-voice. Pretty happy overall with the S2, could see myself grabbing another one in a couple years.
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I really miss the call function from my Gear 2 - once again Samsung has a great feature and drops the ball only for a competitor to pick it and improve it
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Why not just get the 3g version if you wanted to make calls on the Gear S2?
That version is not for sale in my region and i really just wanted the same basic function as the Gear 2 - as in not 3G but the ability to take calls on the watch (tethered to the mobile via BT or WIFI)
IMO I think it will survive, just for the simple fact that there has to be more than just me that thinks making a phone call from the watch is silly..... gimmicky, maybe a bit "cool".....but still silly.
Me personally would not buy A Watch that has that option, I can only imagine the battery life. I see these "smart watches" as an extension of my phone, not a replacement. YOMV
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IMO I think it will survive, just for the simple fact that there has to be more than just me that thinks making a phone call from the watch is silly..... gimmicky, maybe a bit "cool".....but still silly.
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There are certainly more than you (indeed, I've encountered many )
However, keep in mind there are a lot of people out there. And there are plenty like me too, that not only do not find it silly, but find it a very useful, helpful feature in their lives. Indeed, this was the capability that tipped me over into spending the $$ and getting the S2, just a month after dropping bank on a Huawei AW watch (which I still have, and am not ready yet to give up; it has a speaker, so when calling capability comes to AW, it should be supported on the Huawei).
I haven't worn my Huawei for a month. First month I had the S2 I went back and forth, and truly had an opportunity to weight the pluses of AW (Google NOW, app selection) against the pluses of the S2.
S2 is winning at the moment. However, as soon as I can make calls on the AW watch, we'll be going back and forth again evaluating.
Right now, I think the S2 is still gonna win, but it's going to be very close for me. The UI on the S2 is superior, but there may be apps on AW that I "need".
I'll have more to say in this thread after AW supports calling. The S2 will still have a big edge for me because of it's 3G capability, making standalone. We'll see...
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There are certainly more than you (indeed, I've encountered many )
However, keep in mind there are a lot of people out there. And there are plenty like me too, that not only do not find it silly, but find it a very useful, helpful feature in their lives. Indeed, this was the capability that tipped me over into spending the $$ and getting the S2, just a month after dropping bank on a Huawei AW watch (which I still have, and am not ready yet to give up; it has a speaker, so when calling capability comes to AW, it should be supported on the Huawei).
I haven't worn my Huawei for a month. First month I had the S2 I went back and forth, and truly had an opportunity to weight the pluses of AW (Google NOW, app selection) against the pluses of the S2.
S2 is winning at the moment. However, as soon as I can make calls on the AW watch, we'll be going back and forth again evaluating.
Right now, I think the S2 is still gonna win, but it's going to be very close for me. The UI on the S2 is superior, but there may be apps on AW that I "need".
I'll have more to say in this thread after AW supports calling. The S2 will still have a big edge for me because of it's 3G capability, making standalone. We'll see...
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I absolutely respect your opinion. But I'm hard pressed to think the speaker wont be load enough unless your in a quiet environment.
I also had the Huawei watch, Moto 360 2nd gen, and Asus zen watch 2. I've returned all of them because after trying so many I realized it wasn't the watch I didn't like. It was the software. I too think the Tizen UI is superior to AW...at least at the moment.
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Again, nothing to argue about. You like chocolate, I like coffee. There is no "best" flavor of ice cream.
For the record, I've been using a smartwatch for calling since the original Gear 1 running Android. So I've had plenty of time and experience to learn whether or not the feature is useful to me, when/where/how, etc. Of course, in very noisy environments, or places where I'm concerned about privacy, I pull out my phone. However, in those cases more often than not I answer immediately with my watch, tell the person to "wait a sec, I'm on speaker", then get the phone out.
The vast majority of the time, I don't need to do this. Calls are often short (daughter calling to update me on her plans, when coming home, for example), nothing personal enough that I care if anyone overhears.
The convenience is just huge. Phone is usually in my pocket. Watch rings, I look at who's calling, either send it to vmail with a swipe or say, "answer" and have the quick conversation.
However, I well recognize that is is highly personal, like food tastes. It works very well for me, and my life, and has become nearly indispensable. I find that when I don't have my smartwatch and only my phone, it's like a thousand cuts of annoyance.
So, for me, the introduction of standalone 3G was a ginormous feature leap. I've left the house several times now without my phone to run an errand -- few unintentionally and then, after that great experience, deliberately a few times -- and I'm hooked.
If I was in your situation, I certainly would not have paid the extra $$ for 3G, and would only care about the speaker for things like alarms, notification sounds, etc.
I'd have been perfectly happy with a non 3G version that at LEAST had built in GPS. That's the only feature i'm sorely missing from the 3G version...so much so that i'm exploring buying a used 3G from any carrier with no intention of using the 3G, just so that I can have GPS.
GPS plus cellular functionality sold me on the Gear S a year ago. Before that, I could not see the point of smartwatches. As a runner, being able to leave my large and heavy phone behind and still be reachable and have a way to track my runs and communicate seemed invaluable. I was happy with the Gear S, but frustrated with the desert that is the Tizen app store, Samsung's non-support and the constantly breaking charging cradles. Nevertheless, the Gear S served me well.
Then the LG watch urbane 2nd edition LTE came along and I never looked back. I sold my Gear S, and have a much nicer watch, better UX, more mainstream apps, the knowledge that even more apps will work with AW, global functionality, and a crazy long battery life. If this is representative of other upcoming AW watches, Tizen watches are in trouble.
I own three smartwatches atm: gear s, gear s2, huawei w1. The gear s is the SMARTER watch. The S2 is much better looking than original and much much polished OS but is so small. The huawei is the one I am wearing avery day now. Every one of them has something special. It's a matter of personal taste.
By nou I had all the samsung watches, moto 360 and lg watch r. I ALWAYS RETURNED TO TIEZEN. But if the next update will implement calling from the watch the Android wear will be closer to tiezen. Gear S has it's own place in the market and it's the smarter watch of all.
me and my wife have a few smartwatch, such as sony SW1 SW2, the G watch, and the S2, base on our experience the best is still sony SW1 SW2 due to have lot of app, and between S2 and Android watch, I prefer AW, just best it is better intgergrate with android, my wife S2 still need a few tweak such as a fast voice command respsonse, more app, and be more compatible with different IM.
The samsung app store and sony app store is really good when compare to google which is hard to look for watch specific app, but samsung app store currently cannot access in canada, I still able to access few weeks ago when in HK, and sony already phase out its own watch OS.
I myself own a 3g tmobile version of the watch. If LG didn't run into hardware troubles then I would have to make a choice and LG would probably be a winner
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Then the LG watch urbane 2nd edition LTE came along and I never looked back.
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You must be one of the lucky 3 people or so that got one before they were pulled from the market?
If it hadn't been, I wouldn't even be posting in this group at all.
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me and my wife have a few smartwatch, such as sony SW1 SW2, the G watch, and the S2, base on our experience the best is still sony SW1 SW2 due to have lot of app, and between S2 and Android watch, I prefer AW, just best it is better intgergrate with android, my wife S2 still need a few tweak such as a fast voice command respsonse, more app, and be more compatible with different IM.
The samsung app store and sony app store is really good when compare to google which is hard to look for watch specific app, but samsung app store currently cannot access in canada, I still able to access few weeks ago when in HK, and sony already phase out its own watch OS.
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I'm in Canada and the samsung app store works fine with my note 4 and gear s/s2.
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I myself own a 3g tmobile version of the watch. If LG didn't run into hardware troubles then I would have to make a choice and LG would probably be a winner
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Same. I really liked the looks of that watch, the big battery and I would have given AW a try with cellular capability.
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I'm in Canada and the samsung app store works fine with my note 4 and gear s/s2.
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The problem is related to region, that's means a S2 with asia region firmware will not work in other place, same apply for NA region. (at least for current firmware/app)
I had solve the problem by using a asia sim and vpn back to hong kong, but this is not something accecptable.
It might but Samsung just love churning out hardware and software is an after thought. Normally within 6 months of launch and product support is dead.
I just purchased a Gear S because I liked few features more on it (sort of prefer the phone like style vs circular phone, auto dimming, bigger screen) but I know it's last generation now and some things aren't/won't be supported soon (like number sync).
Even though I also never used Samsung pay, it would have been a cool/neat way of making payments which Gear S1 can't. There's also IPX68 which is always a plus. Not sure how I feel about rotating bezel.... I guess it's cool, sorta like my note edge's side (cool but I won't miss it on upgrade to S7)
I'm not really having second thoughts (maybe I am because I'm asking this lol) but I want to see what you guys think of the upgrade from S1 to S2 4G
Most reviews I've seen compared S1 to S2 which doesn't have a speaker and that was the main complaint. S2 4G takes care of that. Some also complained of the cheaper feeling plasticy structure of phone. (Would have certainly paid little extra for the classic 3G if they offered in US)
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I just purchased a Gear S because I liked few features more on it (sort of prefer the phone like style vs circular phone, auto dimming, bigger screen) but I know it's last generation now and some things aren't/won't be supported soon (like number sync).
Even though I also never used Samsung pay, it would have been a cool/neat way of making payments which Gear S1 can't. There's also IPX68 which is always a plus. Not sure how I feel about rotating bezel.... I guess it's cool, sorta like my note edge's side (cool but I won't miss it on upgrade to S7)
I'm not really having second thoughts (maybe I am because I'm asking this lol) but I want to see what you guys think of the upgrade from S1 to S2 4G
Most reviews I've seen compared S1 to S2 which doesn't have a speaker and that was the main complaint. S2 4G takes care of that. Some also complained of the cheaper feeling plasticy structure of phone. (Would have certainly paid little extra for the classic 3G if they offered in US)
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I upgraded to the S2. Actually keeping both watches and just switch out every so often. I wish the S2 face was a little bigger than it is but other than that I really like it. I would like to be able to install a metal band like I did on my Moto 360, hopefully some 3rd party vendors will come through.
I actually never had S1 but I'm happy with my Tmobile S2 4g
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I upgraded to the S2. Actually keeping both watches and just switch out every so often. I wish the S2 face was a little bigger than it is but other than that I really like it. I would like to be able to install a metal band like I did on my Moto 360, hopefully some 3rd party vendors will come through.
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I wish 3G S2 classic was offered in the states...
I think I'm going to stick with the S1 and see if the promotion for S2 is around like right now (buy any galaxy phone and get a S2 for free)
if not, I might just buy it outright we'll see.
With the latest round of smart watches launching now or coming soon, I am curious as to what type of people are buying the latest products. Since this is in the Samsung Gear S3 forum, I would imagine most, if not all of you, are interested in Samsung's latest offering. So my question is are you upgrading to this watch or would this be your first smart watch?
I currently have the first gen Moto 360. What drew me to the Moto 360 is the fact that it had a circular screen and Android Wear intrigued me. I've been happy with the Moto 360, but it is starting to show its age. I didn't think I would consider the Samsung Gear S3, but the looks and 3-4 days battery life definitely peaked my interest. I am not 100% sold on the Tizen OS yet, but from what I have seem so far there is a very good chance this will be my next smart watch.
Please post your response in the poll and share your thoughts below including your current smart watch.
3 or 4 days battery life but with screen Off like all other wear watch no ?
I have also the Gear S (first) it say also 3 or 4 day but in reality more one day than ..... or more if you do not use the watch
I get a full day with Screen always on with my S2. The S3 should give a few hours beyond that.
Upgrading from LG Watch R to Samsung Gear S3 Frontier
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With the latest round of smart watches launching now or coming soon, I am curious as to what type of people are buying the latest products. Since this is in the Samsung Gear S3 forum, I would imagine most, if not all of you, are interested in Samsung's latest offering. So my question is are you upgrading to this watch or would this be your first smart watch?
I currently have the first gen Moto 360. What drew me to the Moto 360 is the fact that it had a circular screen and Android Wear intrigued me. I've been happy with the Moto 360, but it is starting to show its age. I didn't think I would consider the Samsung Gear S3, but the looks and 3-4 days battery life definitely peaked my interest. I am not 100% sold on the Tizen OS yet, but from what I have seem so far there is a very good chance this will be my next smart watch.
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I would be upgrading from a Gear S2 3G. I like the Gear S3's design better and its improvements to AOD. Also, the inclusion of Samsung Pay MST.
With Always-on activated from 6 am to 11 pm, I finish the day with about 35% battery left. The Gear S3 should be even better.
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My Huawei watch is at 50-60% by the time I put it on the charger about midnight each night. I wear it from 7am until midnight. So pretty darn good battery. I am interested in the GS3 because it seems to be more on the premium level finally. I had bought the S2 a couple months after having the Huawei, but returned it. The reason I didn't like the S2 was the cheap feel of it compared to the Huawei and I couldn't use other apps for text/email other than stock Samsung apps. Definitely interested to gety hands on the S3. My biggest reason for wanting Samsung is the e-sim. Not having to have a phone along could be a really nice option at times.
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I've stopped wearing my Moto 360 afer not seeing any benefit wearing it. Oh and the menu was also very laggy.
But I'm very interested in a new smartwatch which could replace my phone during sports with GPS and a heartrate sensor, so hardware wise the S3 seems like a good fit but the software was holding back the previous Samsung watches in the past from what I've read.
I'll probably wait for the first reviews / sofware updates and then decide if it's worth another try....or wait for the Gear Fit 3
I've been in the market for a smart watch since the first iWatch. So much so, I've debated jumping ship just to get a half-decent smart watch. I just simply couldn't justify locking myself down into a cookie cutter phone, no matter how stable and fluid it is, just for a watch. So, I've been trolling here, other sites, and all developments of wearables. When I found out the S3 is featuring MST, and that it doesn't depend on the phone to have it (Looking at you S2), I just knew I had to have it. Then with the later reported music streaming apps, a true map app for the wearable, and how sleek and casual, yet classy, the S3 is, I just KNEW I had to get it. I didn't even hesitate.
On 24 hours now with it and besides the lack of music streaming apps (December can't come fast enough. I hate spotify, but hey, streaming is streaming) and FULL support for Google Messenger (stock texting sucks ass, even more so for group messaging) i absolutely LOVE this watch. I've tried Samsung Pay, it works. It's amazing. I think it's silly you can only do 5 transactions when in standalone mode, but I can kind of understand the reasoning behind it, to a degree even though it is still silly in my eyes (security issues).
If you've thought about getting this watch for ANY reason, stop thinking about it and go get it. You will love it. I'm SO glad I waited for the s3 and didn't rush into any other wearable.
Upgrading from the Gear S
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I was interested in the Gear S2 when I read it had Samsung Pay, but found out it was not MST capable so I decided against it. Then I stumbled upon the Gear S3 details and anxiously awaited until its release. Now I feel safer using it to pay because I don't have to pull out my phone or my wallet.
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I've tried Samsung Pay, it works. It's amazing. I think it's silly you can only do 5 transactions when in standalone mode, but I can kind of understand the reasoning behind it, to a degree even though it is still silly in my eyes (security issues).
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Have you actually triggered the 5 transaction limit? What does it say when it happens?
First smart watch and will probably return it next week for a refund as:
1. Basically it does not work as a watch as the turn on gesture is not sensitive enough. I do not want AOD as that will kill the battery and lessen the screen life / burn in.
Looking at a blank screen instead of the time is frustrating I suspect this is true for all smartwatches though with wake up gesture not just the S3.
2. Notifications are too unreliable.
3. Samsung Pay is not available in the UK - I knew this before I purchased but Samsung will not state when it will be available if ever.
This will be my third. Had a galaxy gear and currently wearing the gear 2. Still 1 week to wait here in the Netherlands.
I enjoy the notifications on my watch and don't really expect much else. So I'm easy to please
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This will my 4th upgrade. I missed 2 things from the Gear S2: a speaker to let people know I'm fumbling to get my phone out; and Samsung Pay. I love how strong the vibration setting is on the S2 and hope it will be just as great on the S3.
Now what REALLY bothers me though is that this watch is completely geared for males. I don't mind the size - but goodness gracious Samsung - do we just count for nothing???? I will not rock the robust look of the Frontier. So I'm just left with a silver Classic Bluetooth only version and very masculine bands with the original order. I have the S2 in Rose Gold and a white leather band and LOVE the look!
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Have you actually triggered the 5 transaction limit? What does it say when it happens?
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I have not, I was merely reporting documentation I've come across.
"Make at least 5 payments on your Gear S3 without a Galaxy smartphone nearby after initial setup. Number of transactions varies by card network and bank. Reload payment capability by connecting to a Galaxy Smartphone via Bluetooth. Only compatible with select cards, carriers and Android smartphones; see the Samsung Pay Support page at www.samsung.com/us/ support/owners/app/samsung-pay#compatibility for compatibility information." Found at the bottom of this link denoted by the 2.
What this means is after you setup Samsung pay to the Gear s3, you can then depending on bank, make up to 5 or more* transactions without needing to sync your phone via bluetooth to the watch. After that, you apparently will be unable to make any more payments until the S3 is then resycned to the phone.
* denotes bank and card limitations, defaults to 5.
Naturesretard said:
I've been in the market for a smart watch since the first iWatch. So much so, I've debated jumping ship just to get a half-decent smart watch. I just simply couldn't justify locking myself down into a cookie cutter phone, no matter how stable and fluid it is, just for a watch. So, I've been trolling here, other sites, and all developments of wearables. When I found out the S3 is featuring MST, and that it doesn't depend on the phone to have it (Looking at you S2), I just knew I had to have it. Then with the later reported music streaming apps, a true map app for the wearable, and how sleek and casual, yet classy, the S3 is, I just KNEW I had to get it. I didn't even hesitate.
On 24 hours now with it and besides the lack of music streaming apps (December can't come fast enough. I hate spotify, but hey, streaming is streaming) and FULL support for Google Messenger (stock texting sucks ass, even more so for group messaging) i absolutely LOVE this watch. I've tried Samsung Pay, it works. It's amazing. I think it's silly you can only do 5 transactions when in standalone mode, but I can kind of understand the reasoning behind it, to a degree even though it is still silly in my eyes (security issues).
If you've thought about getting this watch for ANY reason, stop thinking about it and go get it. You will love it. I'm SO glad I waited for the s3 and didn't rush into any other wearable.
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for the only being able to do 5 transactions with the s3 on standalone. With the phone if you have no service I believe you can only do 10 transactions. Because it stores tokens to use with s-pay, and once those are used you have to replenish them
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I upgraded from the Huawei watch, to the s3. The Huawei looks plain and boring compared to it.
Started with pebble from Kickstarter, then pebble steel, then pebble time then pebble time steel.
Moved to Apple watch when I was issued an iPhone for work.
Also played with most of the FitBit range with a fit bit on one writs and either a pebble or apple watch on the other.
Recently trialling a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge phone for work and have now move the the Gear S3 Frontier as a companion
So I've had a Huawei watch since the end of June, and I love it. I just picked up a Gear S3 Classic yesterday, mainly because I was able to get it for $249. Despite the slightly smaller screen and lower resolution, i love how vivid the Gear S3 screen is.
I keep hearing people complain about the lack of apps for the Gear S3, and how it didn't really live up to their expectations as a whole. If you had the option, would you keep the Gear S3, or stick with the Huawei?
I have the Huawei watch and just ordered a Gear S3 Frontier. For me.... I am keeping both since both have different looks. One is more formal and the other more active (I also have the original gear S if I want to do some serious working out). Anyways for your case between the Huawei vs Classic is very subjective but for ME if I had to choose between them I would say the Classic. Its semi formal so can be used in different scenarios, plus Tizen is a solid system (altho not as customization as android). Tizen its got all you need and nothing more. Think of how many apps do you actually use on your huawei.
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I have the Huawei watch and just ordered a Gear S3 Frontier. For me.... I am keeping both since both have different looks. One is more formal and the other more active (I also have the original gear S if I want to do some serious working out). Anyways for your case between the Huawei vs Classic is very subjective but for ME if I had to choose between them I would say the Classic. Its semi formal so can be used in different scenarios, plus Tizen is a solid system (altho not as customization as android). Tizen its got all you need and nothing more. Think of how many apps do you actually use on your huawei.
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I really don't use many apps. I'm just sort of bummed i can't use Watchmaker Premium for faces anymore.
I also own the Huawei watch and I'm very pleased with it.
But I've also ordered the Frontier (different design to the Huawei...), because of the rotating bezel and to test Tizen
Unfortunately, I can't get it work with my Huawei MediaPad X2, so I returned it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69870240&postcount=2
it seems, that other people/phones have the same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/help/setup-gear-s3-frontier-htc-10-t3505529
Maybe, it's possible to fix that by manipulating the build.prop, or similar in the phone, but I don't know, which parameters will be checked by Samsung GearApp for that
I have a Black Huawei since ordering it upon release last year. Walked to a TMo store and got a Frontier the weekend it released. Haven't worn the Huatch since.
I've owned 3 android wear watches, the original square Samsung, the 1st gen 360 and the Huatch. Android wear has not evolved much, and from the 2.0 bits we've seen so far it may not really. It's mostly been meh for me. I've owned all Pebbles and had 5 SPOT smartwatches (anyone remember those?). The Gear S3 wins hands down for me, in usability and watch-iness.
The bezel interaction is the best way to handle things (pun intended).Seriously, Samsung nailed it with this one. No swipe swipe or friggin 'digital crown' silliness.
Just a useable, great and practical UI. Don't care too much about lots of Apps. But Samsung Pay with MST paired with a non-Samsung V20, is the icing on the cake for me.
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Hello,
I'm very interesting by your feedback because i actually got the Huawei classic for 200€ and Monday I will be able to have the Gear S3 for 300€ + a free band.
The main point is : I have an iPhone 6S.
And actually it's impossible to use the standalone mode on the Huawei Classic (no apps available if you have an iPhone). So I want to get refund for the Huawei and buy the Samsung Gear S3 classic since it looks more beautiful and samsung is investing in iPhone App more than Android with AW2.0 and it's look more compatible.
Do you think it's a good idea ? Or should i abandon and wait for a good price for the Apple watch ?
Thanks,
Regards,
I had the original gear S I Liked it, then I went from that to the Huawei Watch, I liked it but didn't care to much fro android wear. I now have the Gear S3 and I am loving it.
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So I've had a Huawei watch since the end of June, and I love it. I just picked up a Gear S3 Classic yesterday, mainly because I was able to get it for $249. Despite the slightly smaller screen and lower resolution, i love how vivid the Gear S3 screen is.
I keep hearing people complain about the lack of apps for the Gear S3, and how it didn't really live up to their expectations as a whole. If you had the option, would you keep the Gear S3, or stick with the Huawei?
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Its a personal choice that no one else can make for you.. I learned 50 years ago when I got into watches you should buy what 'speaks' to you. In the world of horology their are millions of variations. Not so many smart watches but there is a choice. I didn't think I would like Tizen but after owning the S2 I would never return to Android nor Apple OS
I am sure you will enjoy whatever you purchase but be aware that nothing is perfect, there are always trade offs
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I own both. Love the Huawei watch for all its features and that I can choose any apps to be my default email and text, plus a lot more as the watch is the best Androidwear IMO. However, since I bought the Gear S3 I've only worn my Huawei once... And that was whole the S3 was charging. I like them both. If I could combine the two of them I would have all the features I'm looking for.
Now that I've experienced Samsung Pay on the Gear S3, I don't think I'll ever consider any other watch brands. The Gear S3 has been the perfect smartwatch for me. Great looks & design along with the cool rotating bezel, all the apps I need from a watch (voice reminders, calculator, weather, timer, notes, phone, messaging, music control), switchable bands, & Samsung Pay. Definite home run from Samsung!
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Now that I've experienced Samsung Pay on the Gear S3, I don't think I'll ever consider any other watch brands. The Gear S3 has been the perfect smartwatch for me. Great looks & design along with the cool rotating bezel, all the apps I need from a watch (voice reminders, calculator, weather, timer, notes, phone, messaging, music control), switchable bands, & Samsung Pay. Definite home run from Samsung!
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I think I remember you from the old Nexus forums.
Are you using yours with a Nexus or Pixel? I'm planning on picking it up today and pairing with my Pixel. Just wondering what the experience is.
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I think I remember you from the old Nexus forums.
Are you using yours with a Nexus or Pixel? I'm planning on picking it up today and pairing with my Pixel. Just wondering what the experience is.
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Good memory! But I no longer have any Nexus phones. Sold them already & I skipped the Pixel. I'm down to just one phone ATM, the GS7E.
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Owned a Gear s2 until last week I got the Huawei watch. So far loving how AW handles WhatsApp notifications that I use a lot; that was kinda messy on the s2. Miss the rotating bezel but so far I like the Huawei watch better. More customization; better battery life and while it's subjective; for me at least better looks
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So I bought a Huawei Watch used and cheap. Used it for about an hour and ran back to the Gear S3 so fast.
As annoyed as I am at the lack of continuity when pairing it with the Pixel XL it's just simply a superior product, and Tizen is much better than the mess that is Android Wear. The S8 suddenly looks enticing in a couple months.
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ROFL "we make a compare"
"three-hundred and eighty million powers"