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[Q] Considering rooting the Nexus 5

So I have a black Nexus 5 with a capacity of 16GB. The device is only about 4 months old, so I still have it covered with warranty until June 2016. The device is as good as new and I'm very happy with it because everything is so fast and smooth.
Recently I've been thinking about rooting the device for maybe some little extras. For example, I have GTA SA installed but I would like to play it with the Cleo mod to have a little bit more fun. Or maybe I'll install some kind of adblocker so I could enjoy my brand new phone without the annoying gold diggers. Or perhaps I want to hide some apps from my app drawer so it would look neat and organised. Or I would like to install an apk that isn't available for non-rooted devices. Or in case I want to see the battery percentage next to the time display or anything like that.
As you can see I would only want to root it for rather small reasons. I definitely don't want to overclock anything because it already meets my criteria for speed, nor do I want to install any custom ROMs because I really like the pure android experience. So I have a few questions because I'm a total noob at the field of tweaking android:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
And is it actually 100% safe...?
So regarding to the last question... A friend of mine has a rooted Moto G, he made me familiar with rooting and it's probably thanks to him that I'm considering it. Everything was going well but there were a few times that he woke up and his phone wasn't worth more than a brick. Apparently, it was because of some ROM he installed. This probably won't affect me in any way because like I said, I'm not going to install any custom ROMs, but my friend expected everything to be normal while it wasn't. He probably did everything like it should be done but then he suddenly woke up with a brick next to his head. So apparently, even if you do everything exactly like they tell you to do it, there's still a slight chance that it's going to end up badly, right?
So basically, I'm considering rooting my device but I'm still not sure what I would have to do because there are lots of tutorials and everything is quite confusing and I have some questions. All the help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!

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root/unlockbootloader/install twrp&busybox no data loss without P.C, okay here we go mod's remove if you think it's not helping. download towelroot by geohot,now the rest from playstore, es file exploer,super su,busybox,reboot app,nexus unlock bootloader,
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download towelroot from chrome with es file exploer open and install hit make it rain tab, next install busybox,next install super su app.unlockbootloader with in the app.,install twrp and auto install recovery for hammerhead from twrp, now you should have full root after reboot.super user and busybox unlocked bootloader and twrp installed, and you know what the reboot app is for . no data loss and without a P.C, or you could use fastboot install just look in Q&A, kind regard's joe hope this help's.

Spaceblow said:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
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Yep; when you unlock bootloader of your device (before root), all of data will be wiped.
Spaceblow said:
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
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Nope. When you upgrade to Android L, it might be overwrite existing system clearly.
Spaceblow said:
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
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We are using Google Nexus. Just revert with Nexus Factory Image.
http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Spaceblow said:
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
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In my case, to connect NTFS filesystem.
Spaceblow said:
And is it actually 100% safe...?
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Maybe, but it's at your own risk.

Jongmin Kim said:
Yep; when you unlock your device (before root), all of data will be wiped.
Nope. When you upgrade to Android L, it might be overwrite existing system clearly.
No. We are using Google Nexus. Just revert with Nexus Factory Image.
http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
In my case, to connect NTFS filesystem.
Maybe, but it's at your own risk.
English is too difficult... I'm trying to understand right now.
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root and then unlock bootloader with the app from playstore. has to be this way. regard's p.s no data wiped ,

Spaceblow said:
So I have a black Nexus 5 with a capacity of 16GB. The device is only about 4 months old, so I still have it covered with warranty until June 2016. The device is as good as new and I'm very happy with it because everything is so fast and smooth.
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First of all:
Lethargy said:
I think OP got his question reversed. Should be:
"Why buy a Nexus 5 if you're not going to root?"
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Spaceblow said:
So I have a few questions because I'm a total noob at the field of tweaking android:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
And is it actually 100% safe...?
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1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Spaceblow said:
So regarding to the last question... A friend of mine has a rooted Moto G, he made me familiar with rooting and it's probably thanks to him that I'm considering it. Everything was going well but there were a few times that he woke up and his phone wasn't worth more than a brick. Apparently, it was because of some ROM he installed. This probably won't affect me in any way because like I said, I'm not going to install any custom ROMs, but my friend expected everything to be normal while it wasn't. He probably did everything like it should be done but then he suddenly woke up with a brick next to his head. So apparently, even if you do everything exactly like they tell you to do it, there's still a slight chance that it's going to end up badly, right?
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Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore) and not as easy to develop for. The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Spaceblow said:
So basically, I'm considering rooting my device but I'm still not sure what I would have to do because there are lots of tutorials and everything is quite confusing and I have some questions. All the help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
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Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.

Lethargy said:
First of all:
1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore). The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.
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lol yeah i have to agree with you, but i find this help's when on the go,

joecool666 said:
lol yeah i have to agree with you, but i find this help's when on the go,
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If you don't have access to a PC, or you're using a locked-down Samsung/HTC/Moto/Sony/whatever device, then sure, go ahead and use the exploit methods.
But if you do have access to a PC, and it's a Nexus device, just do it properly, it'll cause fewer possible issues.

Lethargy said:
If you don't have access to a PC, or you're using a locked-down Samsung/HTC/Moto/Sony/whatever device, then sure, go ahead and use the exploit methods.
But if you do have access to a PC, and it's a Nexus device, just do it properly, it'll cause fewer possible issues.
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i do use my p.c and lg flashtool and fastboot.just incase lol.and it is the better way of doing it, p.s when OTG rooting don't forget to bring the XDA app.

joecool666 said:
root and then unlock bootloader with the app from playstore. has to be this way. regard's p.s no data wiped ,
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You mean Towelroot? I'm also considering this option because it would be nice to keep all my data.
Lethargy said:
First of all:
1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore) and not as easy to develop for. The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.
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This is some great information, thank you very much! So in case I would want to do it manually, this thread has everything I need (in combination with the 15 seconds ADB Installer)?

Spaceblow said:
This is some great information, thank you very much! So in case I would want to do it manually, this thread has everything I need (in combination with the 15 seconds ADB Installer)?
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Yep. :good: I also recommend using TWRP instead of CWM as your recovery. PhilZ Touch is also another good alternative, but it is no longer maintained and probably won't work for Lollipop's default encryption.
Latest SuperSU is located here, flashable in a custom recovery.

Lethargy said:
Yep. :good: I also recommend using TWRP instead of CWM as your recovery. PhilZ Touch is also another good alternative, but it is no longer maintained and probably won't work for Lollipop's default encryption.
Latest SuperSU is located here, flashable in a custom recovery.
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Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!

Spaceblow said:
Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!
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Cool. :good:
Even though you now have root access, I recommend using Bootunlocker or whatever app to unlock the bootloader from within Android (which doesn't wipe), then flashing a custom recovery with fastboot while in the bootloader anyways.
Why?
If something goes wrong and your phone doesn't boot, you'll have no choice but to unlock the bootloader WITH a wipe using fastboot, then flash a custom recovery or reflash factory images, unless you've done the above, in which case you can dirty-flash (no wipe) a stock ROM zip downloadable here. :angel:

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Spaceblow said:
Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!
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make sure you make a back up back up most important,regard's joe

To be clear, the *whole* phone including your sdcard partition will be wiped so make sure you back up before unlocking your bootloader. I would use an app like ES File Explorer and copy all your files to Dropbox or Google Drive if you dont have a computer but you'll need a computer anyway.
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MrObvious said:
To be clear, the *whole* phone including your sdcard partition will be wiped
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If we want to be clear, we should also be accurate. The *whole* phone is not wiped. The /data partition is wiped, which includes /data/app (where user apps are stored) /data/data (where user settings and app data is stored) and /data/media (where /sdcard data is stored)

Lethargy said:
Cool. :good:
Even though you now have root access, I recommend using Bootunlocker or whatever app to unlock the bootloader from within Android (which doesn't wipe), then flashing a custom recovery with fastboot while in the bootloader anyways.
Why?
If something goes wrong and your phone doesn't boot, you'll have no choice but to unlock the bootloader WITH a wipe using fastboot, then flash a custom recovery or reflash factory images, unless you've done the above, in which case you can dirty-flash (no wipe) a stock ROM zip downloadable here. :angel:
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Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
joecool666 said:
make sure you make a back up back up most important,regard's joe
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By using Titanium Backup?

Spaceblow said:
Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
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All guides and info threads are in my signature. One such INFO thread is OTA help-desk, which explains that you can receive OTA with custom recovery, however there are extra steps.
However, please let me explain 1 thing. OTA is the ultimate noob move. Only root-noobs receive OTA updates. They are the most inconvenient method of updating your OS if you are rooted. Long before you even receive the OTA update, there will be a pre-rooted flashable.zip that can be flashed via recovery.
noobs will often say "but..but..but I wont have to wipe if I accept an OTA"... Little do they know... Even after an official OTA, things screw up. Whenever an OS is upgraded, a wipe is highly recommended as OTA's are imperfect and data between apps and settings conflicts between versions.
OTA is a fools errand if you're rooted. Now you're rooted, leave OTA to the unrooted and learn to manage your rooted device properly. All the info you could ever need is available in my signature as previously mentioned.

Spaceblow said:
Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
By using Titanium Backup?
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or helium back up

Owning a Nexus makes fastboot your best friend, especially if you have issues.
Read up on adb/fastboot and forget OTA's. Nothing like a clean fresh install of a new version. And there's many options to save /backup your data and important files.
Without learning fastboot and adb.... Simple fix issues can become major headaches.
Don't be intimidated. Read, learn, then do. ?
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@rootSU has everything you need in his sticky roll up thread.

rootSU said:
All guides and info threads are in my signature. One such INFO thread is OTA help-desk, which explains that you can receive OTA with custom recovery, however there are extra steps.
However, please let me explain 1 thing. OTA is the ultimate noob move. Only root-noobs receive OTA updates. They are the most inconvenient method of updating your OS if you are rooted. Long before you even receive the OTA update, there will be a pre-rooted flashable.zip that can be flashed via recovery.
noobs will often say "but..but..but I wont have to wipe if I accept an OTA"... Little do they know... Even after an official OTA, things screw up. Whenever an OS is upgraded, a wipe is highly recommended as OTA's are imperfect and data between apps and settings conflicts between versions.
OTA is a fools errand if you're rooted. Now you're rooted, leave OTA to the unrooted and learn to manage your rooted device properly. All the info you could ever need is available in my signature as previously mentioned.
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Well, you convinced me to take my N5 to a step further.
So I already Towelrooted my phone which gave me root access and an untouched bootloader and recovery. My next step would be to backup every app and all data to be sure in case something goes wrong, this would be done by using Titanium Backup. Then I should be unlocking the bootloader by simply using BootUnlocker for Nexus Devices so I wouldn't get my data wiped (I know I would be able to restore it with my backup but I rather do it a bit faster and less complex). When I did that, I have to head over to this thread and flash TWRP by following the instructions at "2. Installing a Custom Recovery".
So after all these steps my phone would have no limitations and it would be as unlocked as for example your Nexus 5, right?

King root app

Just seen this by droid modder x on YouTube will this work on our device I don't wanna screw my device up that's why I'm asking here's the link too
http://droidmodderx.com/how-to-root-any-and-all-android-devices-with-one-click-root-app
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I would follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guides-bacon-timmaaas-how-to-guides-t2839471
^this will help you do the unlock, root, flash for our amazing phone. Also there are rootkits and some people say to not use them but that is a personal preference.

But would that screw up the device if I did use the king root app ?
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ward24 said:
But would that screw up the device if I did use the king root app ?
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The question is why would you even use that app when you don't need to? Exploits and hacks aren't needed on this phone, all you need to do is go to my guide that you've been linked to above and follow the instructions to unlock your bootloader and root your device.
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Yes sir!!!
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Rooted now thanks Heisenberg!
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Good Morning, just a little information, there is no way to install super SU zip file with the stock cyanogen recovery? I need root to change timestamp of some video files that I copied into my OPO (MTP chaged all of them to the date of when i copied these files) and a rooted phone is the only option.
Thanks.

kingnappa said:
Good Morning, just a little information, there is no way to install super SU zip file with the stock cyanogen recovery? I need root to change timestamp of some video files that I copied into my OPO (MTP chaged all of them to the date of when i copied these files) and a rooted phone is the only option.
Thanks.
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No, you can't flash SuperSU with the stock recovery. You need to unlock your bootloader and install TWRP.
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Heisenberg said:
No, you can't flash SuperSU with the stock recovery. You need to unlock your bootloader and install TWRP.
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That's what I thought, thanks.
BTW has anyone used thik Kingroot app? Does it work? Because I don't want to unlock bootloader and lose everything again just for my videos-

kingnappa said:
That's what I thought, thanks.
BTW has anyone used thik Kingroot app? Does it work? Because I don't want to unlock bootloader and lose everything again just for my videos-
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You don't have to lose everything, just back it up first. Of course you probably wouldn't be in this position if you had properly researched the phone when you decided to buy it.
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Kingroot does not root opo. Have tested several times. Maybe I was unlucky

I don't get why it is preferable to root by unlocking the bootloader and losing all apps+settings in the process when the kingroot method would provide root without losing apps+settings...

galmok said:
I don't get why it is preferable to root by unlocking the bootloader and losing all apps+settings in the process when the kingroot method would provide root without losing apps+settings...
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Because Kingroot is an exploit, it's a hack. It's like smashing a window to get inside your house when all you need to do is open the front door (unlock bootloader, root). On top of that, unlocking the bootloader is how it was designed to be done. Also, I don't get why people even lose any data or apps by unlocking the bootloader in the first place. Anyone with any sense researches their phone properly before jumping in and knows to unlock the bootloader before committing any data to it. The fact that unlocking wipes the device isn't even specific to this phone, it's a standard across all Android devices, so anyone who's modifying their device should know this anyway.

Heisenberg said:
Because Kingroot is an exploit, it's a hack. It's like smashing a window to get inside your house when all you need to do is open the front door (unlock bootloader, root). Also, I don't get why people even lose any data or apps by unlocking the bootloader in the first place. Anyone with any sense researches their phone properly before jumping in and knows to unlock the bootloader before committing any data to it. The fact that unlocking wipes the device isn't even specific to this phone, it's a standard across all Android devices, so anyone who's modifying their device should know this anyway.
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Actually, with my Samsung Galaxy S2 (previous phone), all I had to do was install an update via builtin bootloader and I was rooted without having unlocked the bootloader. Worked great. I assumed the OnePlus (my current Android) would offer the same. Too late did I learn that unlocking the bootloader would erase everything. It wasn't even possible to make a backup of everything, locking me in the non-root position. So, if KingRoot can root my phone, this is clearly a great option as it would allow me to make a full backup of the phone (and restore should it be necessary, e.g. after unlocking bootloader). Exploits/hacks are not bad. Often they offer features not available otherwise, like KingRoot's non-destructive rooting.

galmok said:
Actually, with my Samsung Galaxy S2 (previous phone), all I had to do was install an update via builtin bootloader and I was rooted without having unlocked the bootloader. Worked great. I assumed the OnePlus (my current Android) would offer the same. Too late did I learn that unlocking the bootloader would erase everything. It wasn't even possible to make a backup of everything, locking me in the non-root position. So, if KingRoot can root my phone, this is clearly a great option as it would allow me to make a full backup of the phone (and restore should it be necessary, e.g. after unlocking bootloader). Exploits/hacks are not bad. Often they offer features not available otherwise, like KingRoot's non-destructive rooting.
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Actually, the entire reason you had to root that way with your Samsung is because they've locked the bootloader down so that it cannot be unlocked. That's actually why exploits like Kingroot exist in the first place, in order to root devices that cannot be rooted in the normal way. As I said, if you had done the proper research in the first place you wouldn't be in the position you're in now. Exploits aren't bad, they have a place, they have a reason to exist, but it isn't to root devices like this which are open and able to be rooted in the way that was always intended.
I see a lot of ex Samsung users complaining that they have to go through the process of unlocking the bootloader and all that to root the phone, and complaining that their usual exploit doesn't work, not realising the whole time that they've got it completely backwards; the exploit is the round-about way of doing things, unlocking the bootloader is the intended way of doing things.
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Having the bootloader unlocked is essential for insurance purposes too. If you have trouble with your phone in future and need to flash the stock images because it won't boot you'll be forced to unlock the bootloader to do so. You won't be able to salvage any data from the phone. It's better to do it now when you actually have some control over the situation.

Heisenberg said:
Actually, the entire reason you had to root that way with your Samsung is because they've locked the bootloader down so that it cannot be unlocked. That's actually why exploits like Kingroot exist in the first place, in order to root devices that cannot be rooted in the normal way. As I said, if you had done the proper research in the first place you wouldn't be in the position you're in now. Exploits aren't bad, they have a place, they have a reason to exist, but it isn't to root devices like this which are open and able to be rooted in the way that was always intended.
I see a lot of ex Samsung users complaining that they have to go through the process of unlocking the bootloader and all that to root the phone, and complaining that their usual exploit doesn't work, not realising the whole time that they've got it completely backwards; the exploit is the round-about way of doing things, unlocking the bootloader is the intended way of doing things.
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Well, at least my OnePlus (11s) could be rooted without having the bootloader unlocked. This is perfect for me, as I should still be able to get OTA firmware upgrades (not possible as far as I have read about unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom bootloader to root). Of course, this method relies on vulnerabilities, and are not always going to be there. So I have to make a choice:
1) Hope rooting via hacks is enough and always available, but also get OTA.
2) Unlock bootloader etc., lose all files and settings (start from scratch), not get OTA, use lots of time to get apps/contacts/photos/settings back.
I don't have time for #2 which is why I am (was) still unrooted. #1 took 2 minutes (1 minut of waiting) with kingroot and for now is good enough. I will begin using a decent backup program (instead of adb backup) so I can make a hopefully smooth transition to the unlocked/replaced bootloader case.
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Oh, and the only reason I rooted was to get more details about unwanted battery usage (BetterBatteryStats).

galmok said:
Well, at least my OnePlus (11s) could be rooted without having the bootloader unlocked. This is perfect for me, as I should still be able to get OTA firmware upgrades (not possible as far as I have read about unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom bootloader to root). Of course, this method relies on vulnerabilities, and are not always going to be there. So I have to make a choice:
1) Hope rooting via hacks is enough and always available, but also get OTA.
2) Unlock bootloader etc., lose all files and settings (start from scratch), not get OTA, use lots of time to get apps/contacts/photos/settings back.
I don't have time for #2 which is why I am (was) still unrooted. #1 took 2 minutes (1 minut of waiting) with kingroot and for now is good enough. I will begin using a decent backup program (instead of adb backup) so I can make a hopefully smooth transition to the unlocked/replaced bootloader case.
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Oh, and the only reason I rooted was to get more details about unwanted battery usage (BetterBatteryStats).
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You can still get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader and root, where did you read otherwise? Whoever said that is dead wrong. You might wanna read the edit I made to my post above too.

Easier Root Method?

I know root is achieved with a tot file for the G5 but will there be a one script method like for the g3? I haven't rooted my phone yet because I dont want to risk bricking my phone.

RicardoSal24 said:
I know root is achieved with a tot file for the G5 but will there be a one script method like for the g3? I haven't rooted my phone yet because I dont want to risk bricking my phone.
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there won't be a script for this as there are no instructions for the bootloader to flash any file. The reason they are using the TOT method is because we have no other way to write to the device. ADB is enabled but the actual command needed to copy everything over was left out.

fatapia said:
there won't be a script for this as there are no instructions for the bootloader to flash any file. The reason they are using the TOT method is because we have no other way to write to the device. ADB is enabled but the actual command needed to copy everything over was left out.
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Is rooting the phone ASAP worth the time or is it best to wait awhile after a software update?

RicardoSal24 said:
Is rooting the phone ASAP worth the time or is it best to wait awhile after a software update?
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if you haven't taken that 10d update I would just root now. Not sure if you've seen the thread where they are discussing the possibility of using the TOT method with the new 10d file, but once you update it trips something (qfuse I believe, Autoprime is the one who discovered this AFAIK) that prevents you from using the existing TOT on the forum and from downgrading.
once you root, you can update to 10d and as long as you flash supersu you will still have access to TWRP and root on the latest update. I recommend waiting updating to 10d even after rooting until they iron out all the issues though.
edit: have you done the OEM unlock through dev options yet? it will wipe your phone in the process FYI so make sure you have everything backed up.

Come on. It wasn't that hard to root it. Just follow the directions. Easy!

How do I know if I have the 10d update? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, then thought I had a quality control issue with the pain on the frame. So I flashed stock and locked the bootloader to prepare for a warranty exchange. Turns out the paint wasn't bubbling. It was the protective plastic adhesive I had never taken off. I'm stupid, I know, lol. Now I want to root again but I don't know about the 10d update.

rebelde80 said:
How do I know if I have the 10d update? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, then thought I had a quality control issue with the pain on the frame. So I flashed stock and locked the bootloader to prepare for a warranty exchange. Turns out the paint wasn't bubbling. It was the protective plastic adhesive I had never taken off. I'm stupid, I know, lol. Now I want to root again but I don't know about the 10d update.
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about phone/software version

fatapia said:
if you haven't taken that 10d update I would just root now. Not sure if you've seen the thread where they are discussing the possibility of using the TOT method with the new 10d file, but once you update it trips something (qfuse I believe, Autoprime is the one who discovered this AFAIK) that prevents you from using the existing TOT on the forum and from downgrading.
once you root, you can update to 10d and as long as you flash supersu you will still have access to TWRP and root on the latest update. I recommend waiting updating to 10d even after rooting until they iron out all the issues though.
edit: have you done the OEM unlock through dev options yet? it will wipe your phone in the process FYI so make sure you have everything backed up.
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I've had an understanding that updating android versions while being rooted may cause the phone to be bricked

i have software version 10a that is rootable right thats not 10d or are they similar.

RicardoSal24 said:
I've had an understanding that updating android versions while being rooted may cause the phone to be bricked
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that may have been true at some point especially with OEM FW, but as far as custom I rooted then updated for my GS4, G3, and v10. Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will for anyone else. I had the variants that once they were rooted you held on to it like dear life

fatapia said:
that may have been true at some point especially with OEM FW, but as far as custom I rooted then updated for my GS4, G3, and v10. Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will for anyone else. I had the variants that once they were rooted you held on to it like dear life
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So then its best to wait until something is done with the update?

RicardoSal24 said:
So then its best to wait until something is done with the update?
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from what I've read the method is established now and there is "zero" risk as long as you follow the instructions, I haven't updated because I haven't experienced the issues others are having

fatapia said:
from what I've read the method is established now and there is "zero" risk as long as you follow the instructions, I haven't updated because I haven't experienced the issues others are having
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I think I'll play it safe until its 100% or wait for a new android version with a root method

RicardoSal24 said:
I think I'll play it safe until its 100% or wait for a new android version with a root method
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it's never 100% safe, hence the quotation marks. there's always a risk of something going wrong such as a power outage, or bad file download. As long as you verify the md5sum of your files you shouldn't have a problem with rooting, the only problems I've seen are people trying to use the wrong files on their device. up to you tho man, good luck with which ever you decide

This root method (compared to my old EVO 3D which needed juopunutbear and a wire)....ez pz.

lordodin912 said:
This root method (compared to my old EVO 3D which needed juopunutbear and a wire)....ez pz.
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That sounds like fun, if you ask me. What was the wire for, if you don't mind me asking? Bypassing a fuse?

xanderin said:
That sounds like fun, if you ask me. What was the wire for, if you don't mind me asking? Bypassing a fuse?
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It was needed for s-off, so not tech for root (if i remember correctly) but for being able to flash custom roms and such. Theres youtube videos about it.

Vzw unlocked bootloader after nov. Update??

Sent from my Pixel using XDA Free mobile app

Has any on with A VZW PIXEL with an unlocked bootloader taken the NOVEMBER UPDATE AND if so what was the result????
Sent from my Unlocked Pixel

key Hole said:
Has any on with A VZW PIXEL with an unlocked bootloader taken the NOVEMBER UPDATE AND if so what was the result????
Sent from my Unlocked Pixel
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That's a good question. I unlocked my bootloader and immediately disabled automatic system updates. Really curious if anyone has tried it. I know there are supposedly issues if you unlock then try to run custom firmware and then relock the bootloader (don't know why one would do that, but to each their own). I'm sure someone will tell us soon.

In the November update discussion on the XL forum, dePixel8 is reported to still work. They're expecting the next update will stop it from working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69513504&postcount=182

Just completed the November update with no adverse effects... Way cool
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It's time to look at ROOT

Been reading all the threads here about this before I install the update.
I know this is a repeat, but I figured I might save some people the time digging.
My Device: Pixel XL Verizon NDE63P , Unlocked Bootloader, Root SU 2.78 SR3, ElementalX 0.05, WETA Battery, Center Clock, NavBar Height 36px
My Findings: Things should be fine. WETA just verified in a reply to me that the mods still work.
Update: Kernel update went fine kept root too.
Working on Installing the OTA now. I might make a guide for this if I don't get to frustrated. Right now its almost winning.
Feel free to PM me for help or directions. If there is interest I will write it all up. I just feel like maybe I'm the n00b here and everyone else is better than me. Been out of android for about 2 years...

jp712 said:
Been reading all the threads here about this before I install the update.
I know this is a repeat, but I figured I might save some people the time digging.
My Device: Pixel XL Verizon NDE63P , Unlocked Bootloader, Root SU 2.78 SR3, ElementalX 0.05, WETA Battery, Center Clock, NavBar Height 36px
My Findings: Things should be fine. WETA just verified in a reply to me that the mods still work.
Update: Kernel update went fine kept root too.
Working on Installing the OTA now. I might make a guide for this if I don't get to frustrated. Right now its almost winning.
Feel free to PM me for help or directions. If there is interest I will write it all up. I just feel like maybe I'm the n00b here and everyone else is better than me. Been out of android for about 2 years...
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I'd be interested in a write up if you have time. Or even just a PM would be greatly appreciated. I tried sending a PM but apparently it's not going through. I'm currently unlocked and rooted using the same methods as you and also running EX-P-0.07 kernel. I currently have the OTA zip downloaded and ready to side load. Just wondering if I can just side load it normally without doing anything else. Or should I sideload, then install EX-P-0.07 kernel, then boot to root again? Thanks in advance.
Alphonse

I too would be interested in written out directions just to verify what I think I know because I'm not always right

key Hole said:
I too would be interested in written out directions just to verify what I think I know because I'm not always right
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+1

ihierbal said:
I'd be interested in a write up if you have time. Or even just a PM would be greatly appreciated. I tried sending a PM but apparently it's not going through. I'm currently unlocked and rooted using the same methods as you and also running EX-P-0.07 kernel. I currently have the OTA zip downloaded and ready to side load. Just wondering if I can just side load it normally without doing anything else. Or should I sideload, then install EX-P-0.07 kernel, then boot to root again? Thanks in advance.
Alphonse
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You will have to reinstall the kernel after the OTA runs. I shut down after the OTA finished instead of booting and then installed the kernel and root again. I also had to add the weta mods again too.
I made notes for a write-up as I did it. I can send them to you when I get home later this evening.

If you could send me a copy of that also I would greatly appreciate it.

key Hole said:
If you could send me a copy of that also I would greatly appreciate it.
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I ended up just winging it and was able to sideload, install custom kernel, and root with no problems. Let me know if you still need a simple write up.

Trying To Root Pixel 2

Ok I have the bootloader unlocked.
I was hoping then I could do the following
ADB Debugging on
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp-3.1.1-1-fastboot-sailfish.img
But its not booting it. Pixel TWRP Image
So my question is can i modify the image to make the pixel 2 boot it?
Please advise?
Can I root without using TWRP?
Thanks,

bluh5d said:
Ok I have the bootloader unlocked.
I was hoping then I could do the following
ADB Debugging on
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp-3.1.1-1-fastboot-sailfish.img
But its not booting it. Pixel TWRP Image
So my question is can i modify the image to make the pixel 2 boot it?
Please advise?
Can I root without using TWRP?
Thanks,
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What makes you believe that TWRP for the original Pixel will work on the Pixel 2? Likely you'll have to wait for a recovery for the Pixel 2.

l7777 said:
What makes you believe that TWRP for the original Pixel will work on the Pixel 2? Likely you'll have to wait for a recovery for the Pixel 2.
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Yeah I understand that. I was just hoping that since they are so similar it would work. Especially since I am not going to install it on my recovery just boot it to root and suhide.
I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something or something I could change in the image to make it boot on a 2 .
Thanks though for your thoughts!

bluh5d said:
Yeah I understand that. I was just hoping that since they are so similar it would work. Especially since I am not going to install it on my recovery just boot it to root and suhide.
I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something or something I could change in the image to make it boot on a 2 .
Thanks though for your thoughts!
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The similarities are only on the surface my friend. When dealing with computers, similar and close is rarely good enough. You need exact.

bluh5d said:
Ok I have the bootloader unlocked.
I was hoping then I could do the following
ADB Debugging on
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp-3.1.1-1-fastboot-sailfish.img
But its not booting it. Pixel TWRP Image
So my question is can i modify the image to make the pixel 2 boot it?
Please advise?
Can I root without using TWRP?
Thanks,
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The MSM in them is totally different. Plus panel config, clock plan, power grid etc. Your original recovery kernel will not boot on Pixel2, so this is completely expected.

evilwombat said:
The MSM in them is totally different. Plus panel config, clock plan, power grid etc. Your original recovery kernel will not boot on Pixel2, so this is completely expected.
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Can I root with latest supersu without recovery ?

Someone's bound to hose up their phone. Wondering where factory images are?

Born<ICs said:
Someone's bound to hose up their phone. Wondering where factory images are?
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Yes. I agree. Might be me right. I wasn't planning on flashing recovery though just booting it.

If you are feeling adventurous (as it seems you already are!) you might try the twrp-3-1-pixel-bootable-mod.img located here: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120753892 ? I used the instructions at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-how-to-systemlessly-root-pixel-xl-t3660324 to root the 2016 Pixel (not xl) and if I upgrade to Pixel 2 might try that. You might just try fastbooting the twrp img referenced there and then flashing the supersu referenced there without the other modifications GroovinChip did. Again you are taking a risk trying this on "dissimilar" hardware.

If your bootloader is unlocked and you want root.
Try installing Chain fire's Supersu from the play store or install the apk.
I do not have my P2 yet to try.
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me_droid said:
If you are feeling adventurous (as it seems you already are!) you might try the twrp-3-1-pixel-bootable-mod.img located here: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120753892 ? I used the instructions at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-how-to-systemlessly-root-pixel-xl-t3660324 to root the 2016 Pixel (not xl) and if I upgrade to Pixel 2 might try that. You might just try fastbooting the twrp img referenced there and then flashing the supersu referenced there without the other modifications GroovinChip did. Again you are taking a risk trying this on "dissimilar" hardware.
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I think this may be a waste of time because it was modded to work on Oreo. They have already released a version that works on Oreo 3-1-1 that I already tried it wouldnt boot it. I will probably just wait even though i want to play. So i guess I can just say yep I have a pixel 2 with the bootloader unlocked and thats about it.

This can't come quickly enough - I always take my Ad Blocker for granted until it's not there anymore :'(

The_Fuzz22 said:
This can't come quickly enough - I always take my Ad Blocker for granted until it's not there anymore :'(
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Yeah, I take having root completely for granted. I guess I've never bought a phone right at the moment of release before. If I didn't really need a new phone, I suppose I would have waited. Anyway, I figured out that you can block ads, without root, with apps that run all your traffic through a vpn (that's really only running locally on the phone). The best options after much research seem to me to be Netguard and AdGuard (though I haven't tried them yet). They both also include a firewall (Netguard is primarly a firewall), which I want.
https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
DNS66 also seems to be higly regarded, but it doesn't include a firewall. There are other firewall only apps, which work with the VPN method, but you can only run one VPN on Android at a time, so if you want both functions, without root, you need an app that does both.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-dns66-source-host-ad-blocker-root-t3487497
Anyway, that's my plan until root comes along. Then I will go back to AdAway and AFWall+.

There is no kernel source released for the Pixel 2/XL yet. It is based on the 4.4 kernel, this should make development very smooth.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/psa-fastboot-booting-bad-image-confuse-t3692932