Non-removable battery - Honor 8 Questions & Answers

I've been looking at getting an Honor 8 for a while. I've held onto my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 while I look for a good replacement. I'm tired of Samsung phones and the Honor 8 looks like a good alternative. It's slightly smaller, which would make it comfortably fit a lot of accessories that my note 4 is barely able to fit.
My main issue is that the Honor 8 doesn't have a removable battery. Has anyone else had issues with this, or are there solutions to this (is it easy to open and replace)? I've had to replace my note 4 battery twice. I don't fancy getting the Honor 8 and having the battery die on me in a year. I know a lot of people would have upgraded phones by then, but I tend to hold onto mine. If my note 4 wasn't bootloader locked, I'd probably keep it for another year or so. Plus I like having a couple of phones that I can switch between because I use them to mount to my bike when I ride.
Constructive input is welcome.
Thanks!

That's a very good question you're asking there. I've never been a fan of non removable batteries myself and I've bought replacement batteries for my other phones earlier but nowadays you can barely find a decent phone with a removable battery.
Originally I wanted to buy the Xperia Z5 but seeing that it gets hot I thought that the non removable battery would die after only two years maybe and I like to keep my phone for two or three years at the very least, preferably until it dies.
So far I haven't experienced the Honor 8 getting hot but then again, I don't play heavy games on it. Keep in mind that excessive heat damages the battery health.
After buying the phone I've watched a disassembly video and it seems rather easy to get access to the battery. But I don't expect to change the battery before at least three years.
Also to add to this I've never changed the battery on my three year old Galaxy S4. Plus this phone gives you 5-10 hours of screen on time (5 hours when on LTE and 8-10 on WiFi). I sometimes charge it once every second day or just top it up to get that feeling of freedom when your battery is fully charged.

I've had my Honor 8 for about a month now and was wondering how the thing is opened up. I haven't tried, but looking at the Youtube video I found on how it's done makes me pretty confident I never will try. It DOESN'T look easy. I don't upgrade my phone every year either, so hopefully it never comes up.

I'm stucked on my Galaxy S5 because I can't live with a phone that it does not have a removable battery ! LG is the only manufacturer that keeps releasing devices with removable batteries, but I will never buy an LG. The Honor 8 is excellent, but no removable battery ! I'm really stucked...

I've watched this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fk8-YAPHUa0
I'm not sure that you have to remove all those components before you can remove the battery.

It's understandable
I was a note user before too. Switching to something like this where battery cannot be removed was tough to adjust to. But I have not yet faced any issues and non removable battery concept is working good for me.

I just bought a Honor 8 coming from Note 5! Awesome!

aladin6 said:
I just bought a Honor 8 coming from Note 5! Awesome!
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Root yet?

The honor 8 like most huawei phones is opened through the front screen itself by applying over 160 degrees Fahrenheit of heat directly to the screen to melt the seal. The phone has screws you must remove before the face can be lifted off the body. There is no way to swap the battery on the go unless you are one of the best phone surgeons ever known. You could try a battery case or carry the huawei portable charger with you. The huawei portable charger is quite difficult to find making it expensive. It has a 10200 mah capacity so u can get about 3 and a half charges from it and it can use fast charging which is nice. I think you can get it on newegg. Its very tiny for a large mah size. I have one myself and highly recommend it. But like most portable chargers it takes a while for the pack itself to charge.

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What next? - Moving on

My edge is serving my for almost 2 years now - time for every geek to start looking for a new piece of technology!
So i ask for your opinion for an successor of our nice little phone.
What will / did U buy next: S7(edge), Sony, HTC, Honor .. ?
A screen rather big, a living developer community, maybe water resistance - this is my desire..
a pen, edge screen? - i didn´t use them to often..
S7 Edge, if you wait longer s8
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S7 or S7 Edge is a great choice since you don't need the pen
I wouldn't go to other companies since most of them are not water proof like the S7
Or wait for the S8 like @Aimara said
I don't see a real reason to move from this phone.. I have not seen any relevant update in the latest smartphones.
Yes, you get a slightly faster processor -in real life usage, insignificant improvement- and a barely upgraded camera.. So unless you are just bored of the phone there isn't something really interesting out there.. The s7 edge? is basically this phone with a smaller form factor and edges that doesn't have any sort of special functionality.
For me, smartphones have been basically the same since the iphone 5s- galaxy s4- lg G2 -note 3 generation .. all the new stuff are just gimmicks and performance in real life barely improves at all, because the things that you can do with a phone are limited by the form factor and the small screen and companies have not been creative enough to deliver software that actually can take advantage of the increase in processing power and ram memory.
This phone had the potential to do a lot more stuff than it actually does.. for example: when you open windows in the browser the tabs should be located in the curved panel so you can switch between them easily (like in a desktop).. sadly companies don't give a sh*t about exploiting the potential of their phones a few months after you bought it.. you will get 1 or two updates that change a little bit the look of the notification bar and icons and that's it.. People should stop buying new phones that doesn't do anything new or better than their current phone. We are basically telling companies that we will buy any crap they release even if it barely have any advantage over a 3 years old phone.
Ridiculous high resolution? you have it (1080p was already crisp enough!)
Good camera? you have it
some curve? you have it
Marshmallow? you have it
Nougat? most note edge have an unlocked bootloader now, so eventually you'll have it
A note 7 edge is like us600 you can get a note edge on ebay for us200! it is ridiculous.
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I don't see a real reason to move from this phone.. I have not seen any relevant update in the latest smartphones.
Yes, you get a slightly faster processor -in real life usage, insignificant improvement- and a barely upgraded camera.. So unless you are just bored of the phone there isn't something really interesting out there.. The s7 edge? is basically this phone with a smaller form factor and edges that doesn't have any sort of special functionality.
For me, smartphones have been basically the same since the iphone 5s- galaxy s4- lg G2 -note 3 generation .. all the new stuff are just gimmicks and performance in real life barely improves at all, because the things that you can do with a phone are limited by the form factor and the small screen and companies have not been creative enough to deliver software that actually can take advantage of the increase in processing power and ram memory.
This phone had the potential to do a lot more stuff than it actually does.. for example: when you open windows in the browser the tabs should be located in the curved panel so you can switch between them easily (like in a desktop).. sadly companies don't give a sh*t about exploiting the potential of their phones a few months after you bought it.. you will get 1 or two updates that change a little bit the look of the notification bar and icons and that's it.. People should stop buying new phones that doesn't do anything new or better than their current phone. We are basically telling companies that we will buy any crap they release even if it barely have any advantage over a 3 years old phone.
Ridiculous high resolution? you have it (1080p was already crisp enough!)
Good camera? you have it
some curve? you have it
Marshmallow? you have it
Nougat? most note edge have an unlocked bootloader now, so eventually you'll have it
A note 7 edge is like us600 you can get a note edge on ebay for us200! it is ridiculous.
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I agree with all your points. The only thing bad about this phone is the battery. It's cancer. It barely lasts for more than 4 hrs wih max sot of 1.5 hrs. Has to be on a ventilator(readowerbank) for most of the day. And the worst part? Samsung India seems to have branded this device as "obsolete" as Im not able to get an OEM battery from the various Service Centers that i have tried.
This device had the potential to be much much more. Poor dev support(no offence to the few lovely devs we have) , sub par battery is what limited its future prospects:crying::crying::crying:
Root the sucker and get a proper O/S.
Ebay for a battery and don't look back.
From what I've seen,most hardware upgrades are accompanied by more bloated "operating systems".
Why?
So they can sell you a new phone that's already out of date when it's released.
That's the way the computer business works.
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well, these thoughs crossed my mind as well.
it has been the same since my last smartphones: is there anything really better than my device? Anything i can really crave for / at least look forward to?
Our edge is performing fine (even battery) so there is no real need. But hey, i want a new toy! (I deserve a new toy?!)
Please dont tell my to be happy with my edge and better invest the money in a holyday
Try an new operating system .... it'll feel like a new phone.
any good link for battery ?thinking of getting anker brand since oem sucks ?
zuz242 said:
well, these thoughs crossed my mind as well.
it has been the same since my last smartphones: is there anything really better than my device? Anything i can really crave for / at least look forward to?
Our edge is performing fine (even battery) so there is no real need. But hey, i want a new toy! (I deserve a new toy?!)
Please dont tell my to be happy with my edge and better invest the money in a holyday
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Well, in that case just get a nexus or a one plus whatever.. atleast with those you can try a bunch of different roms and mods to keep you entertained. Everyone is talking about the Google Pixel now.. but it looks ugly and boring as hell, for me it looks like a cheap Chinese phone with really cheap paint or an HTC from like 6 years ago.. if it wasn't a "google phone" nobody would even look at that thing.
If you get another phone be careful, it seems those days only T-MO is not blocking the bootloader.. get a phone that is confirmed to receive the new OS soon.. the last thing you want is to get a phone and be stuck in the same OS as your current phone for 6 months.
Within the last 10 days i have purchased a Axon 7 and got a LG V20 today. Gonna sell my Note Edge to a friend. I am currently leaning towards the V20 but the Axon 7 is putting up a dam good fight. Either phone would be a worthy upgrade for different reasons, sans the S-pen imo.
Don't see any reason to upgrade. .. maybe I will root. ..but i use skygo frequently...
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Well, in that case just get a nexus or a one plus whatever.. atleast with those you can try a bunch of different roms and mods to keep you entertained. Everyone is talking about the Google Pixel now.. but it looks ugly and boring as hell, for me it looks like a cheap Chinese phone with really cheap paint or an HTC from like 6 years ago.. if it wasn't a "google phone" nobody would even look at that thing.
If you get another phone be careful, it seems those days only T-MO is not blocking the bootloader.. get a phone that is confirmed to receive the new OS soon.. the last thing you want is to get a phone and be stuck in the same OS as your current phone for 6 months.
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T-Mobile still has NEW Note Edge phones at some stores around Atlanta. I am waiting on a warranty replacement for my Note 4, then I might jump to a Note Edge. I just don't feel like keeping a refurbished unit unless it's as good as what I had before. The one that died was in beautiful shape, I kept it in a bumper with a tempered glass screen protector.
I'd keep the Note Edge
*Omnipresent* said:
Within the last 10 days i have purchased a Axon 7 and got a LG V20 today. Gonna sell my Note Edge to a friend. I am currently leaning towards the V20 but the Axon 7 is putting up a dam good fight. Either phone would be a worthy upgrade for different reasons, sans the S-pen imo.
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It could be worth something one day, not many made and the curiosity of it could be a collectors item in the future.
I'm thinking of waiting for the Note 8 Edge, it's gunna have QualComm Quick Charge 4.0 and so just 5 minutes of charging will get ya 5 hours of battery life, along with much better battery safety and protection.
Anybody know where I can get a good battery?
n1nj4Lo said:
I'm thinking of waiting for the Note 8 Edge, it's gunna have QualComm Quick Charge 4.0 and so just 5 minutes of charging will get ya 5 hours of battery life, along with much better battery safety and protection.
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Did you ever figure out how to put the Camera button back on the edge screen?
rodmc123 said:
I don't see a real reason to move from this phone.. I have not seen any relevant update in the latest smartphones.
Yes, you get a slightly faster processor -in real life usage, insignificant improvement- and a barely upgraded camera.. So unless you are just bored of the phone there isn't something really interesting out there.. The s7 edge? is basically this phone with a smaller form factor and edges that doesn't have any sort of special functionality.
For me, smartphones have been basically the same since the iphone 5s- galaxy s4- lg G2 -note 3 generation .. all the new stuff are just gimmicks and performance in real life barely improves at all, because the things that you can do with a phone are limited by the form factor and the small screen and companies have not been creative enough to deliver software that actually can take advantage of the increase in processing power and ram memory.
This phone had the potential to do a lot more stuff than it actually does.. for example: when you open windows in the browser the tabs should be located in the curved panel so you can switch between them easily (like in a desktop).. sadly companies don't give a sh*t about exploiting the potential of their phones a few months after you bought it.. you will get 1 or two updates that change a little bit the look of the notification bar and icons and that's it.. People should stop buying new phones that doesn't do anything new or better than their current phone. We are basically telling companies that we will buy any crap they release even if it barely have any advantage over a 3 years old phone.
Ridiculous high resolution? you have it (1080p was already crisp enough!)
Good camera? you have it
some curve? you have it
Marshmallow? you have it
Nougat? most note edge have an unlocked bootloader now, so eventually you'll have it
A note 7 edge is like us600 you can get a note edge on ebay for us200! it is ridiculous.
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Well said !.
edo101 said:
Did you ever figure out how to put the Camera button back on the edge screen?
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Nope not yet and IDK what's happening with EHZ Studio who said they were working on making one.
You can message them from their facebook page and ask too to see whats up with it
https://www.facebook.com/EHZStudio/ and https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=EHZ+Studios
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edo101 said:
Anybody know where I can get a good battery?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZeroLemon-G...669122?hash=item1a064a1942:g:4XMAAOSwVL1V-wmO ZeroLemon 9000mah but around xda users have reported problems with some batteries only lasting a few months and then it dying and rapidly discharging after so, it's a real gamble I guess. $59.95
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7200mAh-Ext...221215?hash=item4b0ba9bf9f:g:2eIAAOSwHMJYHaks TOTHL 7200mah, have one myself but can't fairly judge, as I've been using my ZeroLemon all the time, nice two layer case 1 hard plastic back and 1 rubber overlay back, definitely worth the bang for it's buck though. $23.30
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Extende...363235?hash=item280e491863:g:CpMAAOSwZ1lWekYX Black Label Brand 8550mah, don't have one, can't judge, but at the price it'd be worth the gamble, if it really is only 50mah's less than the ZeroLemon's size at half the price. $24.58
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7350mAh-Ext...245439?hash=item2a7045bebf:g:1UQAAOSwOdpXznjt Best4Power 7350mah, unknown again, can't fairly judge. $24.58
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Note-Edge-B...660894?hash=item3f70d0a25e:g:fa4AAOSwj85YRfhm YISHDA 6500mah, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, at this sounding like the more/most realistic reasonable battery capacity for it's size, nice two layer case 1 hard plastic back and 1 rubber overlay back. $44.75
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mugen-Power...hash=item54400a1fe0:m:mTl97i6XR1J83fcek8GleJA Mugen 6000mah, only down side I saw on xda user reviews is the metal kickstand gets hot and it covers up the speaker, hell though a kickstand and who can't go wrong with Mugen??? $89.95
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerBear-S...900748?hash=item46594c90cc:g:iT4AAOSwx2dYDAKR PowerBear 6800mah up and coming new battery star company, I just recently heard of them a month ago or so when I searched for extended Note Edge batteries and they had solid good reviews, nice two layer case 1 hard plastic back and 1 rubber overlay back. $35.99 These same guys also make Note Edge Slim batteries, I'd trust them over anyone if getting a slim battery and never fall for that doubly extended slim size battery capacity, it's a proven lie if not alone by physics, if ya want double or triple the capacity you'll need double or triple the size.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...+note+.TRS0&_nkw=powerbear+note+edge&_sacat=0 All PowerBear Note Edge Batteries and Cases, Slim, Extended, PowerBank Case
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Review Results: ZeroLemon and Mugen tied in 1st place, I'd put ZeroLemon at 2nd for their mess up on the rapid discharge but it's the biggest if ya get lucky on one that ain't defective, then I'd also give Mugen a 2nd place rating cause of their being the highest priced so this ranking it's a fair placement and I'd place PowerBear at a firm, solid and steady 3rd, newcomers always get it the hardest... LoL! The same size as Mugen for the price of Zerolemon(Or less) though! But watch this review super detailed on the Note 4 7500mah PowerBear battery
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZeroLemon-G...669122?hash=item1a064a1942:g:4XMAAOSwVL1V-wmO ZeroLemon
Review Results: ZeroLemon and Mugen tied in 1st place, I'd put ZeroLemon at 2nd for their mess up on the rapid discharge but then I'd also give Mugen a 2nd place rating cause of their high price so this ranking is fair and I'd place PowerBear at a firm and steady 3rd, newcomers always get it the hardest... LoL! The same size as Mugen for the price of Zerolemon(Or less) though! But watch this review super detailed on the Note 4 7500mah PowerBear battery
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Thanks for the exhaustive list. I'll look into it

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 7X, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 7X is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Honor made a phone with impressive phone with great build quality at such price range without any doubt.
Hands on to Honor
Coming from Samsung galaxy S7 Edge and LG v20 ( sold all flagship phones because of family issues ) i can say i am in love with this phone. Really nice display. Crisp and sharp. Good battery life with normal usage. Overall very happy with Honor 7X
I got this mobile recently. I am in love with this mobile. Camera is great and overall smooth performance. Battery has power saving mode for running more than 30 hours, with full charge
fast and reliable for daily use
Came from a Nexus 6P of two years and I love this phone!!
Love how easy EMUI theming is and I can make it look like stock android if I want to all without rooting and without the slowness that I found substratum can cause.
Easily getting 5+ hours of SOT on a daily basis; and only time I've noticed any sort of lag is when I haven't used the phone while sleeping; it unlocks quickly via fingerprint but the first app i open takes a second longer to open then its back to it's snappy self.
Love it! Thing is a beast!
Joined the crowd today with the Mate SE, WOW! What a Great Phone!
Sure, it's not a flagship, but it feels like one! and if it does most of what you *really* need, with such a great price, It's astounding really. I've spent some time Mate SE vs MI A1. It's subjective of course, but the SE has all the US bands, bottom line, if I'm out in the boonies, I want the best odds of being able to make that call.
Have been using it for an hour and did app updates, map downloads, etc. Hasn't heated up at all, cool as could be. Very Happy with this choice!
Just got this phone cuz my Galaxy Note broke, and i needed something ASAP. Although i didn´t expect too much from a phone in this price range, I´m still bothered by the mediocre camera, and a poor display with horrible view angles. I´ll keep it for a bit, the build quality seems decent, but that´s all.
Just got it 2 weeks ago. Good bye all other budget phones. It rocks
My Galaxy S7 committed suicide about three weeks ago and still having payments on it and trying to get out of AT&T without having to get into more payments this was an AMAZING choice. does everything i need it too and some. works way better than my S7 IMO, One week of use and i love it!
I wish I had heard of this company before buying all these second hand Samung/Motorola phones through craigslist just to save money, when I can buy a comparable phone brand new for a price that is cheaper. This phone is just an improved version of the Honor 7X.
My review is based off replacing a Samsung Note 4 and my work phone is a Galaxy S7.
Battery:
The battery life is superb on this. Seeing how my Note 4 had all this bloatware and these Samsung extras out of the box. The Note 4 couldn't even last through out the day with constant usage. This phone lasts through out the day, set it down without charging it for the night and it still has power.
Battery life is about the same as the S7, though.
Design:
Doesn't feel like a cheap, cricket phone. Feels like it has some weight, some heft to it. I am also impressed by the fingerprint technology on the back of the handset. It is much better and responsive then what the Galaxy S7 has. I never had to 'retry' my fingerprint as if it didn't register it.
Communications:
Haven't noticed any difference in terms of call quality or signal. Yet, my carrier is AT&T. The only concern is that the phone doesn't support 5G Wi-Fi.
Camera.
Unless something was wrong with my Samsung Note 4, this camera is much better than the Note, but similar to what the S7 has, or maybe even less.
Display:
I can't tell if this is part of the android or part of Huawei, but there are animations in the display which are interesting. From where you can see the display brightness slider move automatically to where texts seem to 'bounce' when you scroll through them. There is little bloatware and I like the drawer design of the apps. Screen is also bigger than my Note 4.
Also some people state the charging cable is different, yet my cord that charges my samsung phones can charge this phone.
At the end of the day, this phone can do everything a $1,200 phone can do.
Just bought new one from amazon, I will give my review very soon.
I've had it since the day after Prime Day. Love it. My only complaint is some of the bloatware. I also find the organizations of Settings in EMUI somewhat annoying. (It's like 4 clicks to get to the screen where you can choose a new wifi network.) Overall, this is a great phone and an incredible value.
Phone still going strong. My only major issue is that GPS is horrible with this phone. From Waze to Google Maps, the signal isn't consistent and drops when it comes to GPS. Never experienced anything like this, and it's been like this day one.
Great cpu performance. great battery life.
Poor audio output. Volume boosting apps don't work.
Rooting was easy, reverting... still need to wade through that.
Screen replacement wasn't too difficult, cheap (and cheap quality) parts on ebay. BEWARE! The battery pack is a gel pack that's glued on to the chassis. I ripped the battery open trying to remove it and had to order a new one.
The chassis is FLIMSY. After disassembling the phone to replace the screen, I saw that 1. the back cover is a flimsy bit of plastin (plastic or tin) and 2. the main chassis itself is a weak and flimsy bit of cast pot metal. This phone will bend and break very easily, which is what I suspect caused the screen to break so easily.
Overall, great performer, the sound issue may be addressed with newer Android, the chassis is in need of serious reinforcement.
The Honor 7X was one of the best budget phones of it's time. For under $200, this phone is a really great deal.

Is the Note Edge still worth getting?

I am currently on an S7 Edge. I like it well enough for the most part. I miss having a phone running how I'd like it to run. And with having large hands, I have some trouble operating it sometimes. I've enjoyed edge features, and it seems like this would be wide enough. I would expect less performance and be ok with it, as long as it's not too much.
Thanks!
Battery life on the Note Edge is more or less terrible compared to todays flagships. I had trouble to make it last through the day with only a couple of hours of SOT. Even with a new genuine battery it got really hot and discharged quickly.
I don't really know which phone is better thaan this one, i tryed few on shops, but non of them sem to me more special than this one, i know the developers run away, but there is few good rooms and i em glad everyday use of it, i cleaned bloatware long a go, i don't use whatsup, twitter or facebook aps on it, instead use on web-browser to save battery for all day use on single charge.
First year it did warm up a bit in LP and did dry battery withing few hours, but with MM mickey room is fine even sumetimes i convert videos hours long with androvid, no warning up or drying battery that mach at all.
yes, the battery can be replaced, all the parts are available and replacement oled screens are made in china on demand, It's got IR, Head Phone Jack, NFC, expandable micro sd, heart rate, O2, UV meters. I've had mine since 2014, I've replaced the screen once, it's a tough phone, i can't remember how many times I've dropped it and thought f there goes the screen, and was surpised that it was perfectly fine. Ever since the Edge all phones haven't been so feature packed, Even if i was given the op to buy a new phone, I'd still buy the note edge.
buy a note edge ftw
dape16 said:
Battery life on the Note Edge is more or less terrible compared to todays flagships...
I had trouble to make it last through the day with only a couple of hours of SOT. Even with a new genuine battery it got really hot and discharged quickly.
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That's definitely not true... Aftermarket battery stores stock the battery for the Note Edge and if the phone had issues as you say the battery shops themselves would not stock the battery due to customer complaints.
The first time i rooted my edge and changed the kernel and rom i noticed what ever i had done gave my note edge the exact battery symptoms you state. With the correct kernel and rom I've been able to get the battery to last for 36 hours.
With the Note Edges 4K OLED screen, Spen, latest roms, kernel and gapps ( from xda ) and a new aftermarket 3000mAh Li-ion battery ( go to a reputable battery store, do NOT buy genuine Samsung note edge batteries as they are new old stock), for about $200 you get a Samsung legacy phone which
stands toe to toe and surpasses todays flagships .
Also phones at that $200 price point are more than horrible, but then again with Samsungs current flagship priced at over $2000 is ridiculous, anyone paying that much for planned obselence wouldnt appreciate the Note Edge nor the docking cradle for charging both phone and spare battery. I'd rather rip the back off my note edge while people next to me at the airport look shocked and confused as I quickly swap out to a fully charged battery, while they have their flagshits hooked up to a spare battery power bank with cables connected to their wireless charging, gimmick.
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That's definitely not true... Aftermarket battery stores stock the battery for the Note Edge and if the phone had issues as you say the battery shops themselves would not stock the battery due to customer complaints.
The first time i rooted my edge and changed the kernel and rom i noticed what ever i had done gave my note edge the exact battery symptoms you state. With the correct kernel and rom I've been able to get the battery to last for 36 hours.
With the Note Edges 4K OLED screen, Spen, latest roms, kernel and gapps ( from xda ) and a new aftermarket 3000mAh Li-ion battery ( go to a reputable battery store, do NOT buy genuine Samsung note edge batteries as they are new old stock), for about $200 you get a Samsung legacy phone which
stands toe to toe and surpasses todays flagships .
Also phones at that $200 price point are more than horrible, but then again with Samsungs current flagship priced at over $2000 is ridiculous, anyone paying that much for planned obselence wouldnt appreciate the Note Edge nor the docking cradle for charging both phone and spare battery. I'd rather rip the back off my note edge while people next to me at the airport look shocked and confused as I quickly swap out to a fully charged battery, while they have their flagshits hooked up to a spare battery power bank with cables connected to their wireless charging, gimmick.
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Of course a over 5 years old phone cannot compare to todays flagships, do not fool anyone to buy this phone. Snapdragon 805 is slow compared to modern mid-range and even some low range mobile CPUs.
Last official Android version is 6. Custom ROMS does not support edge screen functions or S-pen features.
Okay, the screen is good, it is not 4K but QHD Super AMOLED.
For an example you can buy Galaxy A41, cheap but much better phone with official Android 10.
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Of course a over 5 years old phone cannot compare to todays flagships, do not fool anyone to buy this phone. Snapdragon 805 is slow compared to modern mid-range and even some low range mobile CPUs.
Last official Android version is 6. Custom ROMS does not support edge screen functions or S-pen features.
Okay, the screen is good, it is not 4K but QHD Super AMOLED.
For an example you can buy Galaxy A41, cheap but much better phone with official Android 10.
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You mean this phone snapdragon 2.70.GHz x 4 is slow, well, not sure what you are talking about.
As for rooms, you have to chose the dedicated rooms for this phone one the Touchwiz, but the cyagenics are imported ones just to try and not for everyday use and sure they don't support spen, fingerprint and edge system.

My Personal Complaints/Review of the Huawei Mate 20 X

MY PERSONAL COMPLAINTS & REVIEW OF THE HUAWEI MATE 20 X
This is my personal take of the huawei mate 20X which I provide as a cautionary note to potential buyers. This is an honest critique of a phone I owned for little over a month. For comparison sake I own the samsung a70 and used that to gauge the phone's overall value. Last month I bought it going in with the mindset that the big screen and its features would be cool as hell. I was wrong.
Online I purchased it for $590. My first impression when I unboxed it was I felt horrified. The phone is monster big. It made me a bit uneasy to think that the heavy weight coupled with its sheer size would make for a perfect shattered screen in time. As I handled it I was on edge that it would fall which made me feel somewhat insecure. But after a while I got used to the size and it fit my pockets although the top protrudes out a bit. After toying with it I felt I had to always be aware that it might fall so I used extra precaution while it was on my person, but it was no biggie.
BATTERY
The first thing that constantly bothered me about the phone was the battery which is 5000 mah. The first thing I made sure to do was to put this baby into airplane mode, turn off bt and location and just keep wifi on. Also, I made sure of turning off background activity in the settings on the grand majority of apps not to mention uninstalling unwanted apps.
You might at first glance think, "wow 5000 mah, amazing I'll buy it right away!" Hold your horses buddy. Just because a phone has a big battery doesnt necessarily mean it will perform like a big battery champ. An example of this is when I charged the phone to 100% one morning. I read email, went on youtube for 10 minutes, surfed the net and made one call that lasted 2 minutes. This whole session lasted 20 minutes. The battery drained to 87%, I kid you not! Another example is when I charged it to 100% one night. After 3 hours of idleness, not picking it up or doing anything to it, the battery read a disconcerting 96%. How in god's name is that possible on 5000 mah after I disabled many apps and killed many more running in the background?? By comparison my samsung a70 which has a 4500 mah battery beats the mate 20X big time in battery. After I put the a70 through the ringer with the above same session in the same amount of time the battery showed a pleasing 97%. A user on xda commented that his mate 20x's battery is slightly (keyword, slightly) better than his samsung s9 which has a 4100 mah battery. Now youre seeing the bigger picture.
UI
The UI is the 2nd worst thing about this phone. It looks like Ice Cream - heavily outdated and disappointing. Though it navigates fast through menus, the app drawer cant be accessed by swiping from the bottom as in most phones today with Pie which is installed on this phone out the box. Even though you have an option for that feature its clumsy and not pretty.
SCREEN RESOLUTION & COLOR
Another bone of contention is the screen resolution. It looks good. But when compared to modern phones like my a70 which is very sharp it falls short. Of course the screen is large which "thins out" pixel density making it less crisp. Thats understandable. But it disappoints when juxtaposing it with sharper phones.
Color is not well calibrated even though it's set to vivid by default. Red apparently dominates the other colors which makes the reds stand out too much. Perhaps a tweak in the settings would do the trick? But with a phone debuted at $1000 you would think huawei would have the experience by now to fix that. Completely inexcusable. The samsung a70's vivid color depth blows the mate 20x out of the water.
SOUND
The sound volume and quality are quite loud and amazing respectively. The best I've ever heard in any smartphone. Huawei did a good job in this dept. But there's no way to toggle dolby atmos off unfortunately. Battery charging is fast, no complaints. Stereo is a huge plus!
GAMES AND VIDEO
For some unknown twisted reason, given the above complaints, playing games on this phone lasted a long time in battery. Playing asphalt 9 for 15 minutes drained only 4 - 5%. Same thing with playing videos. An hour of youtube drained only 6%. Very good but strange given its battery drains in other areas.
OVERALL & MY ADVICE
My great question in all this is, why the hell arent people complaining about these issues?? Battery is not efficient, the UI looks ugly and feels way outdated, the colors are off, resolution isnt as sharp as on other phones and its a bit heavy. To be perfectly honest, with all these faults the phone is worth $460, not $650 which is the lowest price as a new item selling on amazon at the time of this writing. Without any of these issues the phone would be perfect.
For those considering buying this phone take great heed of the aforementioned before you fork over 7 tall bills for it that later on you might regret. Dont be easily fooled by rave reviews of owners of the phone on xda either. Many will exaggerate it because theyre blinded by its large size. Likewise, dont be easily fooled by tech reviews elsewhere like those found on zdnet. Some of them are actually written by paid reviewers who will intentionally gloss over a product, ignoring its faults to satisfy ad revenue.
Yo - I'll bite.
I like your post. Although I am only a senior member too. I don't think that means I am anywhere near qualified to do anything more than pontificate and slander. Basically, all that means is that I have been lucky enough to experience help from other waaaay more knowledgeable people than myself.
It amazes me that none of us have anywhere near the same experience as each other. ok - i have had a wine or two and the last ime that happened I started the worst rated thread in the house. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/goodbye-huawei-phone-t3965177/page3#post80500435
COMPLAINTS & REVIEW OF THE HUAWEI MATE 20 X
This is my personal take of the huawei mate 20X which I provide as a cautionary note to potential buyers. This is an honest critique of a phone I owned for little over a month. For comparison sake I own the samsung a70 and used that to gauge the phone's overall value. Last month I bought it going in with the mindset that the big screen and its features would be cool as hell. I was wrong.
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I haven't owned a Samsung since the S8+ - I loved it, but the battery was nowhere near what they said it was for me. I wonder if it was because I have to use a VPN 80% of the time to access Google services. (in China - Lucky/unlucky me). How do I know that you are not some sort of Samsung plant? A70 can't be as awesome as this phone, can it?
Online I purchased it for $590. My first impression when I unboxed it was I felt horrified. The phone is monster big. It made me a bit uneasy to think that the heavy weight coupled with its sheer size would make for a perfect shattered screen in time. As I handled it I was on edge that it would fall which made me feel somewhat insecure. But after a while I got used to the size and it fit my pockets although the top protrudes out a bit. After toying with it I felt I had to always be aware that it might fall so I used extra precaution while it was on my person, but it was no biggie.
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I'm a big guy. I like the size. I like everything about the size. Yes, if you don't want a big phone - go to something else.
BATTERY
The first thing that constantly bothered me about the phone was the battery which is 5000 mah. The first thing I made sure to do was to put this baby into airplane mode, turn off bt and location and just keep wifi on. Also, I made sure of turning off background activity in the settings on the grand majority of apps not to mention uninstalling unwanted apps.
ok - I have no idea why this is the way it is for you. I have NEVER experienced a battery experience like this in sooooo ****ing many phones. So many times that famous African American on youtube - you know who - would tell me that 'this' phone's battery life was the best. And so many times I'd get let down (never more so than the Huawei Nexus 6P. Damn I loved that phone, but damn that battery sucked). Anyway, Now-a-days I can accidentally leave my camera or torch on and it DOES NOT MATTER. This thing is a battery wizard ... for me. THe AL00 in china with Veeeeepeeeee-ENNNN
You might at first glance think, "wow 5000 mah, amazing I'll buy it right away!" Hold your horses buddy. Just because a phone has a big battery doesnt necessarily mean it will perform like a big battery. An example of this is when I charged the phone to 100% one morning. I read email, went on youtube for 10 minutes, surfed the net and made one call that lasted 2 minutes. This whole session lasted 20 minutes. The battery drained to 87%, I kid you not! Another example is when I charged it to 100% one night. After 3 hours of idleness, not picking it up or doing anything to it, the battery read a disconcerting 96%. How in god's name is that possible on 5000 mah after I disabled many apps and killed many more running in the background?? My samsung a70 which has a 4500 mah battery beats the mate 20X big time in battery. After I put the a70 through the ringer with the above same session in the same amount of time the battery showed 97%. A user on xda commented that his mate 20x's battery is slightly (keyword, slightly) better than his samsung s9 which has a 4100 mah battery. Now youre seeing the bigger picture.
I have NEVER been more impressed by a smart phone. I get a day and a bit an dI am a HEAVY user. Not sure why your phone life is ****, but I wish I knew why.
UI
The UI is the 2nd worst thing about this phone. It looks heavily outdated like Ice Cream or Kit Kat. Very disappointing. Though it navigates fast through menus, the app drawer cant be accessed by swiping from the bottom. Even though you have an option for that feature its
I actually really like EMUI despite my bashing in numerous threads. I especially like the gestures. I am even unsure if I could go back to Nova ... but the fact I can't, ****s me off more than anything. The worst and second-worst and third-worst thing about this phone is the lack of accessibility to a launcher. Damn -that is frustrating and I want to elbow all the EVR dudes right in the GD nose for their insistence that the phone is awesome!
SCREEN RESOLUTION
Another bone of contention is the screen resolution. It looks good. But when compared to modern phones like my a70 which is very sharp it falls short. Of course the screen is large which "thins out" pixel density making it less crisp. Thats understandable. But it disappoints when juxtaposing it to sharper phones.
Nah man - in my opinion, the phone's resolution is pretty good. You sure you don't work for Samsung?
SOUND & BATTERY
The sound volume and quality are quite loud and amazing respectively. The best I've ever come across in any smartphone. Huawei did a good job in this dept. But there's no way to toggle dolby atmos off unfortunately. Battery charging is fast, no complaints. Stereo is a huge plus!
You're probably right, but I couldn't give a toss about this as I mostly use Bluetooth ear. Speakers have been handy once ort twice, but essentially, I have never used the jack. Also I have no clue what the **** is Atmos - I am a philistine when it comes to musique.
GAMES AND VIDEO
For some unknown twisted reason, given the above complaints, playing games on this phone lasted a long time. Playing asphalt 9 for 15 minutes drained only 4 - 5%. Same thing with playing videos. An hour of youtube drained only 6%. Very good but strange given its battery drains in other areas.
Think you are right with this. I seem to be able to set my son up on math prodigy and t4each your monster how to read and it lasts a zillion times longer than when I use the old huawei 6P.
OVERALL & MY ADVICE clumsy and not pretty.
My great question in all this is, why the hell arent people complaining about these issues?? Battery is not efficient, the UI looks ugly and feels way outdated, resolution isnt as sharp as on other phones and its a bit heavy. To be perfectly honest, with all these faults the phone is worth $460, not $650 which is the lowest price as a new item on amazon at the time of this writing. Without any of these issues the phone would be perfect.
It is worth it, in my opinion if you live outside of China and can get the EVA version and you don't need heaps of mem or a dual sim. I need a dual sim, heaps of mem, and I live in China. Therefore it has completely sucked owning the most amazing phone EVER.
For those considering buying this phone take great heed of the aforementioned before you fork over 7 tall bills for it that later on you might regret. Dont be easily fooled by rave reviews of owners of the phone on xda. Many will exaggerate it because theyre blinded by its large size. Likewise, dont be easily fooled by tech reviews elsewhere like those found on zdnet. Some of them are actually written by paid reviewers who will intentionally gloss over a product, ignoring its faults to satisfy ad revenue.
Nah dude ... It is a solid phone. I also got my wife off Apple with the mate 20 pro. These are the best phones - period. Sady though, big business and government dictate otherwise.
HUAWEI... CAN YOU PLEASE LET ME UNLOCK MY BOOTLOADER FFS
That was me who mentioned about the battery drain being slightly better on the mate 20X , it was in relation to my s10+.
The S10+ screen is smaller at 6.4", screen on time battery drain would be greater with a larger panel regardless of battery capacity as we all know. It's all relative.
My ideal goal is 0.9 - 0.4% per hour idle drain or less. Which I get on the Mate 20X , similar to my s10+. The mate 20X larger battery provides greater in between charges when device is in idle and screen off and a slightly better SOT time with screen on than my S10+.
As we all know battery drain % has nothing to do with battery capacity. Drain is drain, regardless. I use GSAM and Accubattery Pro on all my devices to measure SOT and idle drain amongst other things. One other important point is that battery drain on same given device can be completely different to someone elses same device. There are many variables that come into play in regards to battery drain. Hence why there are users of s10+ devices that complain their battery drains faster whereby others post 10 hours plus screen on time. The S10 plus is a mere example, change the device name and it's the same scenario on other device forums on XDA.
As for YouTube reviews for phones in general, I've came to find out a while ago that most are fake. YouTube influencers are given the device for free for favourable reviews.
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s327374 said:
I like your post. Although I am only a senior member too. I don't think that means I am anywhere near qualified to do anything more than pontificate and slander. Basically, all that means is that I have been lucky enough to experience help from other waaaay more knowledgeable people than myself.
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Thats fine I dont expect anyone to know more than anyone else. There are no absolutes here just relative critiques.
How do I know that you are not some sort of Samsung plant? A70 can't be as awesome as this phone, can it?
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What would I or samsung gain from a phone made for the asian market if I were a secret samsung agent based in USA on an english-based website? The samsung a70 is the only phone at my disposal with which to compare the mate 20x.
ok - I have no idea why this is the way it is for you. I have NEVER experienced a battery experience like this in sooooo ****ing many phones. So many times that famous African American on youtube - you know who - would tell me that 'this' phone's battery life was the best. And so many times I'd get let down (never more so than the Huawei Nexus 6P. Damn I loved that phone, but damn that battery sucked). Anyway, Now-a-days I can accidentally leave my camera or torch on and it DOES NOT MATTER.
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Did you actually read or just scan through the battery paragraph? I specifically explained how I set up my phone. Battery life again compared to the a70 leaves much to be desired. Why it went from 100% to 96% in 3 hours with everything turned off is completely inexcusable. As for the black guy in youtube, we dont know how HE set up his phone. Keep in mind that the mate 20x mustve been his 1st 5000 mah battery phone which came out last year at the time of his review when very few phones within that same period had the same mah capacity. This is why you cant judge a phone without comparing it to other phones. I actually tested the phone with the a70 on several occasions, being careful to take notes of observed changes in battery. Just to let you know, two phones from different companies with the same battery capacity will ALWAYS perform differently in terms of battery. This is irrefutable fact.
I actually really like EMUI despite my bashing in numerous threads. I especially like the gestures. I am even unsure if I could go back to Nova ... but the fact I can't, ****s me off more than anything.
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I cant qualify your response as to the UI since you prefer a 1971 chevy when we're driving 2018 ferraris. What I can comment on is that I think the L29 version can install launchers. But I'm not 100% sure on that so dont quote me for assurance.
Nah man - in my opinion, the phone's resolution is pretty good. You sure you don't work for Samsung?
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Yeah it looks like this is the only phone you may have owned. Not sure but thats what it sounds like to me. Reviewers have also entered the same judgement as to its resolution.
Nah dude ... It is a solid phone.
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Never said it wasnt a solid phone. Its just not a perfectly solid 10 out of 10. Its plagued with issues serious companies arent foolish enough to make which should have been ironed out before huawei released it. Premium should be premium especially at premium price, no excuses.
Chinese phone makers are not in the habit of being keen on quality control and are slow to correct mistakes. They think they can just slap together a phone with high end specs through cheap labor as their corp revenue goal, throw it in the consumer's face like a doggy treat and expect them to bite. Thats not how you make customers happy. You keep them satisfied through constant and consistent quality control which the chinese have historically lacked for a long time in their product cycles. But admittingly they are getting better at it; in that sense I give them credit where credit is due. But china is still no korea at least not yet. The mate 20x issues are to the mate 20x what chinese companies are to customers. If china would have made a strong effort to make phones amazing in all respects they could have single-handedly put a major dent in apple, lg and samsung by now.
Limeybastard said:
That was me who mentioned about the battery drain being slightly better on the mate 20X , it was in relation to my s10+.
The S10+ screen is smaller at 6.4", screen on time battery drain would be greater with a larger panel regardless of battery capacity as we all know. It's all relative.
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Oh yes I remember now, it was you. Appreciate that info you confirmed. However I mistakenly said it was your s9 when it was actually your s10+. I stand corrected.
As we all know battery drain % has nothing to do with battery capacity. Drain is drain, regardless. I use GSAM and Accubattery Pro on all my devices to measure SOT and idle drain amongst other things. One other important point is that battery drain on same given device can be completely different to someone elses same device. There are many variables that come into play in regards to battery drain. Hence why there are users of s10+ devices that complain their battery drains faster whereby others post 10 hours plus screen on time.
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Thats exactly what I surmised in my review. Battery capacity means nothing. It doesnt matter how big a battery is; its how efficiently the phone utilizes the voltage and how the software is able to tie in everything together, hardware and software wise.
As for YouTube reviews for phones in general, I've came to find out a while ago that most are fake. YouTube influencers are given the device for free for favourable reviews.
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Yes you are correct. It is very unfortunate that we still cant get unfiltered honest reviews despite the "free" internet environment.
Isn't it strange that we have experiences with the phone, and yet we are both ultimately unhappy with the outcome. I am frustrated, you are disappointed.
We are like the odd couple of Huawei owners.
Except, you know, we aren't really a couple...
s327374 said:
Yo - I'll bite.
I like your post. Although I am only a senior member too. I don't think that means I am anywhere near qualified to do anything more than pontificate and slander. Basically, all that means is that I have been lucky enough to experience help from other waaaay more knowledgeable people than myself.
It amazes me that none of us have anywhere near the same experience as each other. ok - i have had a wine or two and the last ime that happened I started the worst rated thread in the house. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/goodbye-huawei-phone-t3965177/page3#post80500435
COMPLAINTS & REVIEW OF THE HUAWEI MATE 20 X
This is my personal take of the huawei mate 20X which I provide as a cautionary note to potential buyers. This is an honest critique of a phone I owned for little over a month. For comparison sake I own the samsung a70 and used that to gauge the phone's overall value. Last month I bought it going in with the mindset that the big screen and its features would be cool as hell. I was wrong.
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I haven't owned a Samsung since the S8+ - I loved it, but the battery was nowhere near what they said it was for me. I wonder if it was because I have to use a VPN 80% of the time to access Google services. (in China - Lucky/unlucky me). How do I know that you are not some sort of Samsung plant? A70 can't be as awesome as this phone, can it?
Online I purchased it for $590. My first impression when I unboxed it was I felt horrified. The phone is monster big. It made me a bit uneasy to think that the heavy weight coupled with its sheer size would make for a perfect shattered screen in time. As I handled it I was on edge that it would fall which made me feel somewhat insecure. But after a while I got used to the size and it fit my pockets although the top protrudes out a bit. After toying with it I felt I had to always be aware that it might fall so I used extra precaution while it was on my person, but it was no biggie.
>
I'm a big guy. I like the size. I like everything about the size. Yes, if you don't want a big phone - go to something else.
BATTERY
The first thing that constantly bothered me about the phone was the battery which is 5000 mah. The first thing I made sure to do was to put this baby into airplane mode, turn off bt and location and just keep wifi on. Also, I made sure of turning off background activity in the settings on the grand majority of apps not to mention uninstalling unwanted apps.
ok - I have no idea why this is the way it is for you. I have NEVER experienced a battery experience like this in sooooo ****ing many phones. So many times that famous African American on youtube - you know who - would tell me that 'this' phone's battery life was the best. And so many times I'd get let down (never more so than the Huawei Nexus 6P. Damn I loved that phone, but damn that battery sucked). Anyway, Now-a-days I can accidentally leave my camera or torch on and it DOES NOT MATTER. This thing is a battery wizard ... for me. THe AL00 in china with Veeeeepeeeee-ENNNN
You might at first glance think, "wow 5000 mah, amazing I'll buy it right away!" Hold your horses buddy. Just because a phone has a big battery doesnt necessarily mean it will perform like a big battery. An example of this is when I charged the phone to 100% one morning. I read email, went on youtube for 10 minutes, surfed the net and made one call that lasted 2 minutes. This whole session lasted 20 minutes. The battery drained to 87%, I kid you not! Another example is when I charged it to 100% one night. After 3 hours of idleness, not picking it up or doing anything to it, the battery read a disconcerting 96%. How in god's name is that possible on 5000 mah after I disabled many apps and killed many more running in the background?? My samsung a70 which has a 4500 mah battery beats the mate 20X big time in battery. After I put the a70 through the ringer with the above same session in the same amount of time the battery showed 97%. A user on xda commented that his mate 20x's battery is slightly (keyword, slightly) better than his samsung s9 which has a 4100 mah battery. Now youre seeing the bigger picture.
I have NEVER been more impressed by a smart phone. I get a day and a bit an dI am a HEAVY user. Not sure why your phone life is ****, but I wish I knew why.
UI
The UI is the 2nd worst thing about this phone. It looks heavily outdated like Ice Cream or Kit Kat. Very disappointing. Though it navigates fast through menus, the app drawer cant be accessed by swiping from the bottom. Even though you have an option for that feature its
I actually really like EMUI despite my bashing in numerous threads. I especially like the gestures. I am even unsure if I could go back to Nova ... but the fact I can't, ****s me off more than anything. The worst and second-worst and third-worst thing about this phone is the lack of accessibility to a launcher. Damn -that is frustrating and I want to elbow all the EVR dudes right in the GD nose for their insistence that the phone is awesome!
SCREEN RESOLUTION
Another bone of contention is the screen resolution. It looks good. But when compared to modern phones like my a70 which is very sharp it falls short. Of course the screen is large which "thins out" pixel density making it less crisp. Thats understandable. But it disappoints when juxtaposing it to sharper phones.
Nah man - in my opinion, the phone's resolution is pretty good. You sure you don't work for Samsung?
SOUND & BATTERY
The sound volume and quality are quite loud and amazing respectively. The best I've ever come across in any smartphone. Huawei did a good job in this dept. But there's no way to toggle dolby atmos off unfortunately. Battery charging is fast, no complaints. Stereo is a huge plus!
You're probably right, but I couldn't give a toss about this as I mostly use Bluetooth ear. Speakers have been handy once ort twice, but essentially, I have never used the jack. Also I have no clue what the **** is Atmos - I am a philistine when it comes to musique.
GAMES AND VIDEO
For some unknown twisted reason, given the above complaints, playing games on this phone lasted a long time. Playing asphalt 9 for 15 minutes drained only 4 - 5%. Same thing with playing videos. An hour of youtube drained only 6%. Very good but strange given its battery drains in other areas.
Think you are right with this. I seem to be able to set my son up on math prodigy and t4each your monster how to read and it lasts a zillion times longer than when I use the old huawei 6P.
OVERALL & MY ADVICE clumsy and not pretty.
My great question in all this is, why the hell arent people complaining about these issues?? Battery is not efficient, the UI looks ugly and feels way outdated, resolution isnt as sharp as on other phones and its a bit heavy. To be perfectly honest, with all these faults the phone is worth $460, not $650 which is the lowest price as a new item on amazon at the time of this writing. Without any of these issues the phone would be perfect.
It is worth it, in my opinion if you live outside of China and can get the EVA version and you don't need heaps of mem or a dual sim. I need a dual sim, heaps of mem, and I live in China. Therefore it has completely sucked owning the most amazing phone EVER.
For those considering buying this phone take great heed of the aforementioned before you fork over 7 tall bills for it that later on you might regret. Dont be easily fooled by rave reviews of owners of the phone on xda. Many will exaggerate it because theyre blinded by its large size. Likewise, dont be easily fooled by tech reviews elsewhere like those found on zdnet. Some of them are actually written by paid reviewers who will intentionally gloss over a product, ignoring its faults to satisfy ad revenue.
Nah dude ... It is a solid phone. I also got my wife off Apple with the mate 20 pro. These are the best phones - period. Sady though, big business and government dictate otherwise.
HUAWEI... CAN YOU PLEASE LET ME UNLOCK MY BOOTLOADER FFS
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deloj said:
Oh yes I remember now, it was you. Appreciate that info you confirmed. However I mistakenly said it was your s9 when it was actually your s10+. I stand corrected.
Thats exactly what I surmised in my review. Battery capacity means nothing. Its how you use it that determines its longevity and drain rate. It doesnt matter how big a battery is; its how efficiently the phone utilizes the voltage and how the software is able to tie in everything together, hardware and software wise.
Yes you are correct. It is very unfortunate that we still cant get unfiltered honest reviews despite the "free" internet environment.
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deloj said:
Thats fine I dont expect anyone to know more than anyone else. There are no absolutes here just relative critiques.
What would I or samsung gain from a phone made for the asian market if I were a secret samsung agent based in USA on an english-based website? The samsung a70 is the only phone at my disposal with which to compare the mate 20x.
Did you actually read or just scan through the battery paragraph? I specifically explained how I set up my phone. Battery life again compared to the a70 leaves much to be desired. Why it went from 100% to 96% in 3 hours with everything turned off is completely inexcusable. As for the black guy in youtube, we dont know how HE set up his phone. Keep in mind that the mate 20x mustve been his 1st 5000 mah battery phone which came out last year at the time of his review when very few phones within that same period had the same mah capacity. This is why you cant judge a phone without comparing it to other phones. I actually tested the phone with the a70 on several occasions, being careful to take notes of observed changes in battery. Just to let you know, two phones from different companies with the same battery capacity will ALWAYS perform differently in terms of battery. This is irrefutable fact.
I cant qualify your response as to the UI since you prefer a 1971 chevy when we're driving 2018 ferraris. What I can comment on is that I think the L29 version can install launchers. But I'm not 100% sure on that so dont quote me for assurance.
Yeah it looks like this is the only phone you may have owned. Not sure but thats what it sounds like to me. Reviewers have also entered the same judgement as to its resolution.
Never said it wasnt a solid phone. Its just not a perfectly solid 10 out of 10. Its plagued with issues serious companies arent foolish enough to make which should have been ironed out before huawei released it. Premium should be premium especially at premium price, no excuses.
Chinese phone makers are not in the habit of being keen on quality control and are slow to correct mistakes. They think they can just slap together a phone with high end specs through cheap labor as their corp revenue goal, throw it in the consumer's face like a doggy treat and expect them to bite. Thats not how you make customers happy. You keep them satisfied through constant and consistent quality control which the chinese have historically lacked for a long time in their product cycles. But admittingly they are getting better at it; in that sense I give them credit where credit is due. But china is still no korea at least not yet. The mate 20x issues are to the mate 20x what chinese companies are to customers. If china had made a strong effort to make phones amazing in all respects they could have single-handedly demolished apple, lg and samsung by now.
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s327374 said:
Isn't it strange that we have experiences with the phone, and yet we are both ultimately unhappy with the outcome. I am frustrated, you are disappointed.
We are like the odd couple of Huawei owners.
Except, you know, we aren't really a couple...
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I'm both frustrated and disappointed. Honestly I wanted to make the mate 20x my main driver that I planned to replace my a70. But huawei decided for me to keep my a70.
The honor 8x max is a good big screened phone. But problems with installed google services like the playstore keep me from considering buying it.
Looks like I'll stick to my a70 until I see a better contender with a bigger screen, hopefully one with no issues that would otherwise prompt me to open a thread to complain about.
Wouldnt say we're the 'odd couple' since we're both not as frustrated with each other as with that one thing bothering us, the mate 20x. We're more like Frasier and Niles.
deloj said:
I'm both frustrated and disappointed. Honestly I wanted to make the mate 20x my main driver that I planned to replace my a70. But huawei decided for me to keep my a70.
The honor 8x max is a good big screened phone. But problems with installed google services like the playstore keep me from considering buying it.
Looks like I'll stick to my a70 until I see a better contender with a bigger screen, hopefully one with no issues that would otherwise prompt me to open a thread to complain about.
Wouldnt say we're the 'odd couple' since we're both not as frustrated with each other as with that one thing bothering us, the mate 20x. We're more like Frasier and Niles.
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Honor 8X Max doesn't appear to support any TMobile USA LTE bands.
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Honor 8X Max doesn't appear to support any TMobile USA LTE bands.
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I actually saw on amazon the 8x max for gsm carriers like tmobile.
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I actually saw on amazon the 8x max for gsm carriers like tmobile.
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Max version hasn't got any USA T-Mobile LTE bands.
The none Max version has some T-Mobile LTE bands though.
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For me, the terrible bluetooth quality is killing me. The signal breaks up a LOT!
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Max version hasn't got any USA T-Mobile LTE bands.
The none Max version has some T-Mobile LTE bands though.
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Very sad to hear that. Another example of huawei disappointing potential consumers. The fact that this will hurt them in revenue makes me happy. If they dont take this as a lesson I dont know what will.
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For me, the terrible bluetooth quality is killing me. The signal breaks up a LOT!
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You mustve picked up a defective phone. I didnt have any issues with bt. Hate saying this but try a factory reset.
My bluetooth works brilliantly. Did the factory reset work?
Well guys I'm thinking of buying back this phone. Before I do I need to see how it looks with Emui 10. If anyone has the BETA emui 10 installed I'd appreciate a few pics. Thanks guys.

I love this phone, I think I'll pass on the P7

As the title says, I think i'll be passing on the P7 and awaiting either the P7a (unlikely) or the P8.
The Pixel 5 just has everything I want in a "phone".
It's still fast enough that I don't get annoyed using it.
Read finger print.
Android 13 is running smoothly.
Battery life is probably better than on the P7, but no idea, but I'm still getting wonderful SOT.
Rear not made of glass.
Last phone of an era.
Completely agree! I jumped ship to Pixel 5 after a decade of exclusively buying Samsung Galaxy series. Perfect size and has more than enough power for my needs. If only they released another phone of the same size. If only.
Bought a Pixel 7 last week... currently thinking about returning it and keep my P5...
I'm in the market for a Pixel 5. For all the reasons @andybones outlined, plus as a backup. I got the 7 and like it more than 6. But now there's something new and ugly to be paranoid about with stories about shattering camera glass. Taking into account lame fingerprint readers, new Pixels seem to have lowest glass bidder written all over them.
I found a used "mint" condition P5 on Swappa.
I'll post about it once it arrives. "
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I'll post about it once it arrives.
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I'll do the same when mine gets here. I'm looking at Swappa and ebay reburbished.
I've had a Pixel 5 for a couple days now. First thing I noticed is that SIM unlock happens instantly where as 6 and 7 have to think about it for a few seconds. Same with wi-fi and cell connections. It may not be significant but 5's radio is definitely snappier on start up and no waiting for status bar icons. I'm sure a new Tensor has a more complex job than an older Snapdragon, but simpler is what I'm going for.
The phone shipped with Android 12, I flashed 13, now I'm thinking about taking it all the way back to 11. Any caveats I need to know about that?
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I've had a Pixel 5 for a couple days now. First thing I noticed is that SIM unlock happens instantly where as 6 and 7 have to think about it for a few seconds. Same with wi-fi and cell connections. It may not be significant but 5's radio is definitely snappier on start up and no waiting for status bar icons. I'm sure a new Tensor has a more complex job than an older Snapdragon, but simpler is what I'm going for.
The phone shipped with Android 12, I flashed 13, now I'm thinking about taking it all the way back to 11. Any caveats I need to know about that?
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Nice review.
I've been using mine also for a few days.
It's great. Perfect condition.
Only thing is battery capacity I'm not sure where it's at. On my old 5 it was at like 90% and i was getting easily 8-10 hour SOT.
Im on my 3rd charge and I got about 6 hour SOT and accurately said 73% battery health. But I'm praying it just needs time but we'll see. This charge is doing a little better. I was used to getting an hour /10% battery..
But for $198 perfect condition P5 I'm quite happy. It should easily last me until the P8. Which I'm hoping will have a smaller close to P5 size.
I used the P7 in store for first time and yes it is awesome. But I would of bought new and it would be about $540. So I think I made a god choice. I'm also hoping google does good trade in deals again next year.. though I really do need a backup device.
Ohh man I rode A11 until A13 came out. Completely skipped A12. I used crDrood A11 ROM, and it was very stable.
I don't think I could go back though.
Besr of luck!
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...I'm quite happy. It should easily last me until the P8. Which I'm hoping will have a smaller close to P5 size.
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I read that Pixel 8 will be small. It would be nice if it also trended away from a glass back, but that's probably wishful thinking.
I don't have a clear picture of my P5's battery health either. So far it seems good enough, definitely not bad. I did a second charge today. Mine is in really nice shape too, so hopefully this means the battery had an easy life before I got it.
Good luck with yours too!
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As the title says, I think i'll be passing on the P7 and awaiting either the P7a (unlikely) or the P8.
The Pixel 5 just has everything I want in a "phone".
It's still fast enough that I don't get annoyed using it.
Read finger print.
Android 13 is running smoothly.
Battery life is probably better than on the P7, but no idea, but I'm still getting wonderful SOT.
Rear not made of glass.
Last phone of an era.
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I'm totally with you on this. I was pondering whether to buy a P7 or not for absolutely ages, but gave in and bought a unopened sealed one for £400, played with it for about 3 hours in my house and could not work out what all the hype is about with the P7, I noticed very little difference between it and my P5, possibly the camera, but the camera on my P5 is perfect for what I use it for. And I totally love the physical size of my P5. I did like the phone to phone transfer using the cables, it transferred absolutely everything, including all my short cuts to various websites, Forums etc. They have not yet mastered keeping the same ringtones etc, but I was still impressed. Anyway, cut a long story short, I have now got the P7 out of my head, sold it for exactly what I paid for it and I am keeping my bullet proof 100% reliable P5 until possibly the P7a or P8, depending on size of phone, but if Google don't do a phone at 6.1" or less, I'll possibly have to switch over to Samsung.
I just ordered up a Pixel 7, free upgrade and my Pixel 5 is showing it's age. I'm not the easiest on my stuff and working on a diamond drill doesn't help my cause at all
P5 is the last good phone ever made.
If I were you, I'd get another one while you can still find it, in case you break it, loose it etc.
All the new phones are huge now, Pixel 5 is the smallest.
And cases are made of fragile glass on almost all phones now, on Pixel is aluminium and you can still wireless charge because of the hole in the middle!
And fingerprint sensor is actually usable on P5 because it's where it should be, not on the side/buttons, under the screen and other awkward places like on most phones.
And you get quite a lot of RAM that should make the phone last years.
Only down-side on P5 for me is the big screen resolution. I find anything above 720p a waste of battery life, because there is no visual difference for the eyes. But battery life is not that bad, if you only use it casually you can get 2-3 days of battery life
Just wondering, has anyone noticed issues with Android 13 compared to Android 11, on P5?
Usually I avoid updates like plague, I disable them completely and keep apps until they don't run anymore and force me to update them. What is annoying on P5 is that every few days it shows up a popup prompting me to update Android and it's only a matter of time until I click OK by mistake
@andybones, no reason to upgrade if you like the hardware/firmware you got and its fulfilling its mission. Constant firmware upgrades/updates aren't needed for Android 9 or higher in my opinion. Replace batteries as needed... easy living.
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@andybones, no reason to upgrade if you like the hardware/firmware you got and its fulfilling its mission. Constant firmware upgrades/updates aren't needed for Android 9 or higher in my opinion. Replace batteries as needed... easy living.
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About battery replacement...
My previous phone was OnePlus 7 Pro, and OnePlus could replace battery under the warranty and free od charge during two year warranty for the device. I don't know how it is now after merge with Oppo.
How about Google? Battery replacement is done under the warranty just like it was with OnePlus or Google will charge some money? If so, do you know how much?
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About battery replacement...
My previous phone was OnePlus 7 Pro, and OnePlus could replace battery under the warranty and free od charge during two year warranty for the device. I don't know how it is now after merge with Oppo.
How about Google? Battery replacement is done under the warranty just like it was with OnePlus or Google will charge some money? If so, do you know how much?
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No, but probably not that bad. I run Samsung N10+'s and I doubt it's worse than them. Watch a tear down vid. I've gotten one of these done for $50, next one I'll probably do myself.
Regardless replace the battery when it drops to 80% of its original capacity. Just routine maintenance, no big fuss.
well I have a P7 on the way,
Cracked my P5 screen,
I'll probably take the $50 or so from Google and get the P7a once out and trade p7 or p7a in fir p8..
I'm still using my Pixel 2XL, thought about upgrading many times but the phone just keeps working.
Yesterday I saw ebay deal for Pixel 5 128GB for $110 and have ordered it, should be a decent ugrade I think, at least I'll try newest Android.
I'm completely with you guys. I love and live my P5. The P6 of my mom feels so bulky in comparison, more like a brick. I also don't get why there is no political or scientific pressure/argument for lighter phones <150 g instead of 200+ g. It has to be more healthy for our wrists.
In addition I had some experience with battery capacity and aging of it.
If you have root access or able to use some terminal executions (e.g. adb), you can read out your remaining full charge capacity of your Pixel.
These number will give you a scope of what's going on, but will not be accurate.
For my case, I use root to limit max charging state (at 75 %) and shut of below 20 %. Also I can limit the charging current by software. In all day usage I stay between 60 and 50 %, as I have a wireless charger on every desk at work and home.
So long story short. I was getting my battery replaced by Google in a case of warranty (I was getting a entirely new unit as replacement because I shuttered my camera glass/lense.
The bms of the battery counts charging cycles and remaining full charge capacity (see file /sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent).
All I can say is that this number of remaining capacity (health state) is quite manipulative. Brand new capacity was 4100 mAh with 3 cycles. Now I have 3500 mAh after 218 cycles in 11 month's. If I would charge my P5 now several times to 100 % SOC and drain it to zero, the bms would learn and this count of 3531 mAh would climb again to much more then that.
For long term reasons I will not do several 100-0-100 SOC cycles for you. You all can imagine that it will hurt the lithium cells more than it will help to know the exact figure.
All in all I can ask a friend with a P5 which readouts he will get, he doesn't use this battery charging restrictions.
Btw, if your remaining capacity will drop below 80 % in warranty time, Google will replace your battery for free. Otherwise you can't initiate a changing of battery by yourself at Google, not even for some fees.
But if you really concerned, there are original batteries to order here in Germany, disassembly process is not that hard to do.
In my opinion don't take too much concerns about your battery. A friend of me has a OnePlus 6 since Release (close to 5 years ago) and charges every night to 100 % with a old Sony 7,5 W charger. He is on its original equipped battery and still has enough SOT for 1 day usage and criticises it's battery life some time ago. But as we know, there is no alternative to older, smaller smartphones without glass backside as our P5 oder OP6.
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Full charge capacity / charging cycles / date of read
4228 1 14.05.2022
4186 2
4180 2
4178 4
4136 7
4110 10
4115 19 12.06.2022
4035 26 23.06.2022
4039 31 30.06.2022
3981 47 22.07.2022
4006 51 28.07.2022
3531 218 31.03.2023
3623 225 08.04.2023
P.S. I'm still on A11 for design reasons, I don't like the bubble UI of A12+. Where is my usable workspace left? Notifications area and app drawer specially and where would my WiFi on/off toggle switch gone? What was wrong with this dedicated button to get rid of it in A12?
Edit: like I said, I did a single 100%-0%-100% cycle and the bms recognised this in better trained capacity. It jumped from 3531 to 3623 mAh (compare with table above).
So don't take this numbers too serious, as it it the same battery lithium cell and the numbers are all over the place.
Friends i heard pixel 5 has heating issues, how is it on newer versions of android and can we balance it with custom roms. I like compact phones and can't really find one these days in decent budget. I am planning to buy a P5 hoping custom rom support would last for few more years but little concerned about heating. Is it natural for P5 to heat or can we lower it with better roms?, ur response would help. Thanks dears.
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Friends i heard pixel 5 has heating issues, how is it on newer versions of android and can we balance it with custom roms. I like compact phones and can't really find one these days in decent budget. I am planning to buy a P5 hoping custom rom support would last for few more years but little concerned about heating. Is it natural for P5 to heat or can we lower it with better roms?, ur response would help. Thanks dears.
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I have this phone for over year now mostly running on custom ROMs (currently CrDroid v7.25, Android 11). A lot of games, YouTube, a ton of phone calls etc. and I haven't notice any issues with heating. Of course, phone is warmer during heavier games or something, as it should be, but nothing extreme.

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