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A Facebook application for your Windows Mobile phone officially from Microsoft !
* Send messages to any of the people in your Friends list.
* Take pictures and videos on your phone, then upload them right to Facebook.
* Send messages or call people in your Friends list.
* Manage your profile and post anytime, anywhere.
Keep up with the latest news and posts with Facebook on your phone. Now your status updates can be up-to-the moment accounts of what you’re doing. Photos and videos are about as close to live-action as you can get. Show your friends what you’re up to, while you’re out and about.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/facebook.mspx
you just beat me to posting it...looks good so far.
I almost got caught to facebook also but I had too many doubts. Here is a version of someones doubts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhzYGoBif8
Do not forget that facebooks social side (the only side actually) is useful only if you use your real name. Otherways nobody wont find you. Now just think...
EDIT:...or let me explain. Basically, what goes there stays there. For start if you happen to get to a criminal side for genuine needs, cops would get loads of information about your relationships etc.
And the main point: facebook-A BIG mass of data from everyone. This might be the present or surely it will be the future: intelligent engines/robots to scan and analyze the mass of data accumulated there psychologically enough to make conclusions about geopolitical/social/mass-psychological preferences. And the kind of preferences we cannot think about even for now. The next move from there is agressive manipulation and big loss of freedom
yeah, works perfectly on my TD2 ;-)
darfri said:
I almost got caught to facebook also but I had too many doubts. Here is a version of someones doubts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhzYGoBif8
Do not forget that facebooks social side (the only side actually) is useful only if you use your real name. Otherways nobody wont find you. Now just think...
EDIT:...or let me explain. Basically, what goes there stays there. For start if you happen to get to a criminal side for genuine needs, cops would get loads of information about your relationships etc.
And the main point: facebook-A BIG mass of data from everyone. This might be the present or surely it will be the future: intelligent engines/robots to scan and analyze the mass of data accumulated there psychologically enough to make conclusions about geopolitical/social/mass-psychological preferences. And the kind of preferences we cannot think about even for now. The next move from there is agressive manipulation and big loss of freedom
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Facebook just holds the information YOU provide, pretty simple. It is a VERY good way to stay in touch with old friends and relatives but of course it is a pretty open social network and you need to be careful with the information YOU provide. Facebook doesn't take or steal anything from you, it is up to YOU what kind of information and how much of it you provide for others to see. THAT simple. To make it short: just use your brain and Facebook can be a very nice place to enjoy.
Working for me
Works great so far on my TD2. Can't believe it took this long for microsoft to release a facebook app for windows mobile!!!
One down side though, still doesnt have flick scrolling which is a bit of a pain, hopefully they'll sort that out soon.
P996 said:
Facebook just holds the information YOU provide, pretty simple. It is a VERY good way to stay in touch with old friends and relatives but of course it is a pretty open social network and you need to be careful with the information YOU provide. Facebook doesn't take or steal anything from you, it is up to YOU what kind of information and how much of it you provide for others to see. THAT simple. To make it short: just use your brain and Facebook can be a very nice place to enjoy.
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Yeah, but what about REAL names... thats enough for me
Off course facebook doesn't steal anything from me. It is just a container... a container which at some point contains data enough (even if you do not put there facts like home address etc, just your name which is a damn good fact) to get analyzed. And offcourse - not by facebook. Even chats and comments are enough at some point to compile a solid profile about you. Once again - they are related to REAL names.
I know it is hard to like this kind of theory when you already have a facebook account. My wife has a facebook account and I am seeing the mass of information streaming there. Besides the social side is so effective that you cannot get out of it anymore - it is a good extra communication platform.
BTW I have a plaxo account which has my outlook contact folders... I "can" delete the folders and account there but what about THEIR recycle bin for "archival" and "statistics" purposes... I'd love to get rid of it but I think there is no need to do it as it is too late already.
And I just received an emali from damn facebook which suggested me to sign up and showed the names of the people I know. How did the monster know my friends if I have been avoiding it
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just like any other member networkin YOU sign up to it askes if theres anyone you would like to forward a membership request to! if your that worried about robots scanniny your comp to find all your details then jus dont have a comp or a bank account or anything dont even have a fone but its a decent app thnx
the app jus locks up wen i go to run it
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the app jus locks up wen i go to run it
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DOesnt work for me either. just freezes. the 0.16 version worked better :/.
jumbo2000 said:
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just like any other member networkin YOU sign up to it askes if theres anyone you would like to forward a membership request to! if your that worried about robots scanniny your comp to find all your details then jus dont have a comp or a bank account or anything dont even have a fone but its a decent app thnx
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This app here might be as good as possible. No complaints about it.
uhh... I'll put it as short as I can: First: I am not worried about scanning my PC. I am worried about scanning the data on Facebook servers.
It contains your REAL name and your REAL activities. Please folks... try to imagine just a little bit. The scanner wouldn't be any data collector or single data unit detector (like bank account numbers, email etc). I am talking about intelligent scanner here. The one that uses sentence content detection/comparsion and linguistic variation approximating techniques in spite of the personality that is in the text. Face recognition is already there for us to use even. From this point scanner has already simplified data to deal with. Imagine this kind of scanner cooperating with psychologists who obey people with high political, economical - and if anybody is interested anymore about the old timer - MORAL authority. As time has told the ambitions of these people have almost never been sincere. A single facebook user most likely wouldn't be endangered. It is plurality that makes the effect
mokuni said:
DOesnt work for me either. just freezes. the 0.16 version worked better :/.
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Same here. After keying in userid and password and tap on done. the app freezes.
After trial and error, i found out that its the files used by the previous version that's causing the lockup.
Try uninstall the facebook app completely then rename Facebook.vol and fbmail.vol to something like Facebook.vol.old and fbmail.vol.old.
install the latest version and try.
If it works.. u can delete the 2 .old files.
P996 said:
Facebook just holds the information YOU provide, pretty simple. It is a VERY good way to stay in touch with old friends and relatives but of course it is a pretty open social network and you need to be careful with the information YOU provide. Facebook doesn't take or steal anything from you, it is up to YOU what kind of information and how much of it you provide for others to see. THAT simple. To make it short: just use your brain and Facebook can be a very nice place to enjoy.
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That’s only one half of the brain. And that the phrase I keep listening from Facebook users.
The question is ... Can you control what other people post about you? Pictures information’s etc?
I know that they can still do that but those information’s are usable only if they are linked to an existing user...
When you open an account then pictures from you on your friends account stops being a picture.
It’s now usable and abusable data... I t’s just a question of time for both of those things...
Try now and use your brain 100% ...
KraFT
cypork said:
Same here. After keying in userid and password and tap on done. the app freezes.
After trial and error, i found out that its the files used by the previous version that's causing the lockup.
Try uninstall the facebook app completely then rename Facebook.vol and fbmail.vol to something like Facebook.vol.old and fbmail.vol.old.
install the latest version and try.
If it works.. u can delete the 2 .old files.
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Cypork, deleted both files, and reran fb app and bam, works like a charm. thanks. .
mokuni said:
Cypork, deleted both files, and reran fb app and bam, works like a charm. thanks. .
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Fantastic. Glad it works for u as well
works fine on my D2. great app, finally
as for the philosophy of facebook and social networking, i'm afraid that what darfri says is true. we users use it as a fun location, posting information that is not harmful for anyone...but what it is done with it in the background where big brother watches, only God knows...
but honestly, with today's tehnology i would not bother about information some guys know about me. i'm sure that if they want to know, they will know...and i don't think they will go as far as facebook. but this growing/exploding community could be a good source too, at some point.
I hope this time it's the correct forum.
So long story short.
I've written an app that allows to hijack FaceBook profiles over the WiFi. So when you're connected to WiFi you can "hack" into other users profiles. It doesn't work for profiles using SSL (yes you have that option in FB). So it can be treated as a "bad app". BUT! it is not dangerous for the one using it. I am aware that this is "questionable" application, but is there any other way to tell people - "HEY! use secure connections, it is not safe to use public WIFI!". I'd bet that a lot of you don't use SSL now and after using/reading this app you will turn SSL on.
That could be the #1 reason for deleting my app.
The second one is that I've put a 'demo' app in the market with a limit to sniffing only 3 profiles. But you could buy it through paypal. And today I've found out that this also could lead to app deletion. However i've bought launcherpro through paypal so I don't see why my app was removed in less than 24 hours.
What is your opinion and what can I do to sell my app somehow (i need my 25$ back that I've paid to register in google wrr...). Is there an option I could do put it in market without google deleting it like putting a disclaimer or something? The app itself is safe for the user downloading it.
Edit: If I put a link to this app here will this thread be deleted? If so, is there an option to promote it here?
Per forum rules, link removed
bponury said:
I've written an app that allows to hijack FaceBook profiles over the WiFi
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There's your answer.
JamesC_ said:
There's your answer.
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+1 on that
if it allows you to hijack fb you can steal other information from the users account so why would they allow it and put themselves into a legal bind for doing so
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There's your answer.
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So if it wasn't for this app you would be safe? No, facebook is ignoring users privacy and this app is nothing more then a good way to show people what could be the cost of not using secure connections. Of course this can be used in a bad way, a lot of apps can. Like sms bombing or phone number spoofing. But they are not removed from the marked do they?
Ethics
And even worse you want to get paid for it.
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Ethics
And even worse you want to get paid for it.
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Yes, I know what ethic is however we're not living in a perfect world and just believing that everyone is good and ethical so I can just leave my door open when leaving the house is not going to protect me against the reality. I believe in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure and this case is even better because FaceBook is aware of the problem and just ignore it. A few people are aware that there's an option to use SSL on facebook. In my opinion FB should just get it done right and force users to use it. It's not a problem these days right? And what is wrong in getting paid for my work. I've spent some time developing it. Security by obscurity is not working, really. Take my app for example it would take max 1h to crack it. It's not security it's just being to lazy to secure it. And hoping that no one would care to crack it.
sms bombing is not hacking someones account! you are just spamming someone with messages.
even if it is down to fb to let people know about security, the market owners can be sued for allowing such an app on the market. there are better ways of showing a person how unsecure a connection is without punishing them in such a way.
the secure connection is useful for public connections but some people may not want or need to use it at home so they have the ability to switch it on or off. apparently there are issues with some games on fb that are linked in with the use of the secure connection.
traumatism said:
sms bombing is not hacking someones account! you are just spamming someone with messages.
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People are killed for spamming in russia (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/26/russian_spammer_killed/)
And what about spoofing caller id? AFAIK that things are valid in court cases in Poland.
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even if it is down to fb to let people know about security, the market owners can be sued for allowing such an app on the market. there are better ways of showing a person how unsecure a connection is without punishing them in such a way.
the secure connection is useful for public connections but some people may not want or need to use it at home so they have the ability to switch it on or off. apparently there are issues with some games on fb that are linked in with the use of the secure connection.
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I don't know how to tell people - secure yourself any other way. I know i'm devils (myself) advocate right now, but really do you think that forgetting about insecurity is a good way? I don't force anyone to use it in a bad way. But after I showed how it works in my house all my room-mates turned SSL on instantly. And they were not mad about it, shocked a bit but now they are safer now. Sure you can just tell people - hey turn ssl on and 90% of them will ignore you. But when you show them - look! i can see your messages that easily if you don't do it. Then they would listen.
haha! So, if someone got a gun and went around shooting people in cars to proove that they should actually have bullet proof windows and burst-proof tyres, that it's all ok, and not in any way shape or form, illegal?
ha. ha.
infact op ip should be reported to facebook
By nature I wouldn't go near this app. If its collecting other peoples info I could be collecting my own. Thats how I see it logically ... people always get screwed when they are doing something they shouldn't be doing.
There is a place for all apps in this world be they good or bad. You could always host a site and put it on there. I wouldn't go near it cause once again I'd be afraid of whats laced on that site.
I was just providing another point of view to the convo.
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haha! So, if someone got a gun and went around shooting people in cars to proove that they should actually have bullet proof windows and burst-proof tyres, that it's all ok, and not in any way shape or form, illegal?
ha. ha.
infact op ip should be reported to facebook
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So if you have a car that can be opened by someone who has a screwdriver wouldn't you want car manufacturer to secure your car. Buying a bulletproof car isn't exactly the same as pushing a button in a web browser isn't it? And you're comparing killing a man to posting "I'm a jackass on someones FB wall". But still, you can buy a gun right? Also pretending that there's no problem isn't fixing a problem.
And hey, this app isn't new you know, if it wasn't for this thread maybe you wouldn't know that people use this apps on PC's maybe one day you would find that all your mail is gone (yes, this app could be modified to work with other sites like this forum). And ask yourself wouldn't you be pissed if you've found out that anyone using your network could get into your bank account? Well I would. But most (all?) banks use SSL by default. Google does. Why FB doesn't?
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By nature I wouldn't go near this app. If its collecting other peoples info I could be collecting my own. Thats how I see it logically ... people always get screwed when they are doing something they shouldn't be doing.
There is a place for all apps in this world be they good or bad. You could always host a site and put it on there. I wouldn't go near it cause once again I'd be afraid of whats laced on that site.
I was just providing another point of view to the convo.
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Yes, in fact it needs root to modify iptables and send raw arp messages and I know people get scared when an app needs root. If someone is interested I could write here how it's done and anyone could write it. It's actually nothing magical.
I wrote this app as a project for my mobile programming class. In the first version it also sniffed for Gadu-Gadu messages (it's a polish messenger). But I sure hope that when and if this app let's loose than FB will react and enable ssl by default. Maybe other websites will use it too. It's just that easy to protect your users, I don't understand why they don't do it?
most people who do not want their details stolen, do not use public access internet. does FB take money transactions over their site?
google does and the banks do so they will have a secure section. fb may do this using paypal or google checkout or otherwise so may not need the ssl that the banks need. sure it still renders people vulnerable to attack and theft of other information but even so that information is very limited dependant on the user of the account.
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most people who do not want their details stolen, do not use public access internet.
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Yes, so other people want their details stolen? You are aware of the problem 'cause your "into computers" but out of 500 milion fb users how many of them ever heard of SSL? How many know that they are unsafe?
well with the amount of messages being spread on fb already about this i think more people will know, but to let people know only by stealing their details is pathetic. sure you may have made this app for a project but why give other people the power to do this. all you are doing is providing more uses for those who like to make other peoples lives a misery. the best thing that could be done with this is to let the website provider know how unsecure their system is. especially if you are aware of the issue and are bothered by it. i know i'd do the same. if that didnt work, sure i'd tell people about it but i wouldnt sell an app on to others so they can make use of it. not even for free.
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well with the amount of messages being spread on fb already about this i think more people will know, but to let people know only by stealing their details is pathetic. sure you may have made this app for a project but why give other people the power to do this. all you are doing is providing more uses for those who like to make other peoples lives a misery. the best thing that could be done with this is to let the website provider know how unsecure their system is. especially if you are aware of the issue and are bothered by it. i know i'd do the same. if that didnt work, sure i'd tell people about it but i wouldnt sell an app on to others so they can make use of it. not even for free.
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Sure I could write an e-mail to facebook, but this issue is known for years! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_hijacking I am sure FaceBook is aware of it. In fact they've enabled SSL only a month ago (maybe two months) but why it isn't enabled by default?
who knows. perhaps issues with other applications on the website, or applications made to access facebook. they may have left it so they can cater for other applications for and on the site. only they can answer that question.
anyway, he just showed the spirit of a developer and created something new
he never told anyone "hey go hack facebook profiles" or "sniff those profiles, its fun"
he just showed the possibilites of android development and did nothing wrong in my opinion
it's not his fault if facebook is unable to close a security leak known for a long time
yeah dont get me wrong blezz i understand that completely. but the argument was as to why they would remove it. legality reasons would be tne main issue. to cover their own backs as they can in fact face legal action for allowing the app to become available in their market.
I don't see anything wrong with the app.
It shows the flaws of facebook, and the fact that no one in facebook cares enough to do anything about it. But then I understand whygoogle would remove it... If facebook decided to sue for this google would be sued not YOU.
so it would be best if you released it HERE on xda rather than the market
Here is a Link a video I just posted on YouTube showing what I'm referring to below did blur out any and all of my personal information, I hope that it does not violate and rules, laws, or policy's. *Side note I somehow messed up the audio & I don't usually sound like a dude
I don't know the correct place for this post even after reading the thread for such things and I did try the search function and still was unsure.
If this post is deleted for incorrect topic forum please advise me of the correct place, if there is one.
I am having this weird thing going on with my phone and I cannot find anything similar to the issue online, and it's highly probable it's somehow user error.
Since I don't know where to turn to for advise (I am aware factory resetting it will probably resolve it but I want to know what is causing it as well as fixing the issue), I figured I would start here as this has been the best source of information on past android questions I've had in the past.
I have contacted the Varo Bank (the new Varo Bank app) support and their developers through the their beta tester app. No response yet (5 days).
The reason for this post... Over the past 2 weeks or so I will hear a (new) tone then my phone opens up my main banking app (Varo Bank). This happens again and again sometimes it only happens a few times a minute others it's 6-7 times in a minute to where my phone is nearly unusable. It can happen anytime my phone is unlocked including while I'm on a call, after restarting phone, on and off wifi, cellular, &/or airplane mode, even while I am already in the banking app. I originally assumed it had to do with some sort of shortcut or where it was located on my home screen. So first I moved it, then when that didn't work, I deleted it for every page except my app drawer. Since non of those issues resolved the issue, I checked for software updates of both my phone and the app itself, yet they were both at the most recent versions. Although I NEED the app for obvious reasons, I decided to uninstall the app. After it was uninstalled I restarted my phone and as soon as I unlocked it I heard the "Ba Ding" sound again, but this time it took me to the Google play store for the same Varo Bank app I had just uninstalled. At this point I joined their beta testers then reinstalled the Beta version of the Varo Bank hoping that if it is the banking app that's causing the issue that would resolve it or I would have a better chance of contacting their developer's or technical support. I have sent 2 emails to their general Support and left a comments on the play store for the app which goes to the developers and is not a public comment. It has been 5 days and I have yet to get a response that wasn't autogenerated.
Sorry for the poorly written, LONG post, this is just driving me crazy. Thanks in advance for any advice, comments or possible direction on where to turn for answers or support.
Lisa Nicole
Hi, to me this sounds like a really terrible bug on the banking app you are using or a virus. Would assume the latter.
I have two separate banking apps on my phone and never ever experienced my apps opening on thier on, even redirecting me to install it again after uninstall.
If it were a phone bug, it would do this with any app not just your banking app.
I could be wrong in my assumptions, just trying to advise you to be careful.
I would, backup my data, format and start fresh.
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Hi, to me this sounds like a really terrible bug on the banking app you are using or a virus. Would assume the latter.
I have two separate banking apps on my phone and never ever experienced my apps opening on thier on, even redirecting me to install it again after uninstall.
If it were a phone bug, it would do this with any app not just your banking app.
I could be wrong in my assumptions, just trying to advise you to be careful.
I would, backup my data, format and start fresh.
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Ya I figured as much, I just really loathe the thought of having to do a fresh install, because my phone storage organization is non existent. Regardless I'm hoping to draw some attention to the issue, with whatever the issue may be. Varo the name has been around for awhile, but they just recently became an actual independent bank (they were under Bank Corp before.
I can't be, nor will I be the only customer with this issue not to mention it's my understanding that you "have" to use the app, due to very limited web capabilities. I have not verified that myself though.
So we'll see if this helps get since attention for the issue
I am getting the same error, but only with the Varo app, nothing else.
I have the same issue that just started this week on my Pixel 7. Did you just add it to your GPay or Wallet recently?
don't even know where to begin to explain the world I live in and this is the best place I can think of or somebody could possibly answer what the hell is happening.. no I will try to keep this summarized and not going to too much detail other than with the technical aspect.. so my girlfriend was going into my phone and I'm sure she was trying to get into everything possible like my Google account Instagram lineapp what'sapp snapchatocrosoft account amazon.account VK, everything... Now I'm sure somewhere along that she synced her phone because obviously a bunch of my files now ended up on her phone making her think that I somehow installed some virus to her phone which now in her mind she feels like if the phone's messing up or if the router is Messing up which my assumption is she was in the router messing around with settings and now she doesn't have internet when she goes to solve this problem she goes out and uses Wi-Fi elsewhere and now when she went back to the house she couldn't go to the Internet service provider website to be able to mess with the settings on the blue curve router from Shaw because her phone was saying she was in the states we live in canada. She's under the impression I've gone to some third party app site that allowed me to get some firmware that her words has mirrored her storage and it was my way of blocking her ability to see twitch and discord because I was obviously hiding that because I was talking I assume with other women on it ...
Alot of the issue started with the fact that I used to play a game called magic Rush and I had shared my account or given it let's say a player that continued on with it.. obviously giving the Google account because it was binded is the email to the account, caused a s*** storm of problems.. password manager was all synced across his device anything he downloaded in his Play store showed up in my history just making it look like I just deleted it.. she feels like I'm hiding files on my computer or my phone because of some of the apps he had downloaded the other guy in Guatemala that I had shared the account with he had a calculator app that was a vault for hiding files like pictures.. she's literally accused me of everything under the sun thought somehow Steam my Steam account was being used to talk to other girls or somehow I was hiding files because she would take a random file from Steam in one of the folders and when she tried to open it with when we are it would just show up like random numeric code complete gibberish and this is why I must have been hiding files I must have been encoding them because I had things like notepad++ and irfanview, she's told me that I've cloned her SIM card and I have a VPN in the states so I can use things like Vox talk or w.e phone app that's just for the states.. I'm on an s10 plus and she's on an s10 so now that we kind of got the Guatemala guy off the account there is still weird s*** going on she went into developer tools on Google Chrome and it looked at the source code when you're looking at the Google activity when you're logged into the account and it had lots of words like null and hidden and she was swearing up and down thinking that this was proof that I was being shady..
Does anyone have any idea what could have possibly moved my files onto her account whether that be through her signing into my Google s*** but I mean yeah she feels like my phone's infected her phone or my computer has infected hers and I think it was just her and experience self somehow enabling it to like share all files I don't know I can't tell you everything she's possibly gotten into but she's clicked on everything a woman could click on oh and side note if you reach this far and you read all this thank you for taking the time because this is a serious issue in my life right now this was also in the beginner or new help thread I will also attach pictures the cheese sent me over the last month or so showing that I was being shady and did some s*** to her phone that I had rooted it or mirrored her storage
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don't even know where to begin to explain the world I live in and this is the best place I can think of or somebody could possibly answer what the hell is happening.. no I will try to keep this summarized and not going to too much detail other than with the technical aspect.. so my girlfriend was going into my phone and I'm sure she was trying to get into everything possible like my Google account Instagram lineapp what'sapp snapchatocrosoft account amazon.account VK, everything... Now I'm sure somewhere along that she synced her phone because obviously a bunch of my files now ended up on her phone making her think that I somehow installed some virus to her phone which now in her mind she feels like if the phone's messing up or if the router is Messing up which my assumption is she was in the router messing around with settings and now she doesn't have internet when she goes to solve this problem she goes out and uses Wi-Fi elsewhere and now when she went back to the house she couldn't go to the Internet service provider website to be able to mess with the settings on the blue curve router from Shaw because her phone was saying she was in the states we live in canada. She's under the impression I've gone to some third party app site that allowed me to get some firmware that her words has mirrored her storage and it was my way of blocking her ability to see twitch and discord because I was obviously hiding that because I was talking I assume with other women on it ...
Alot of the issue started with the fact that I used to play a game called magic Rush and I had shared my account or given it let's say a player that continued on with it.. obviously giving the Google account because it was binded is the email to the account, caused a s*** storm of problems.. password manager was all synced across his device anything he downloaded in his Play store showed up in my history just making it look like I just deleted it.. she feels like I'm hiding files on my computer or my phone because of some of the apps he had downloaded the other guy in Guatemala that I had shared the account with he had a calculator app that was a vault for hiding files like pictures.. she's literally accused me of everything under the sun thought somehow Steam my Steam account was being used to talk to other girls or somehow I was hiding files because she would take a random file from Steam in one of the folders and when she tried to open it with when we are it would just show up like random numeric code complete gibberish and this is why I must have been hiding files I must have been encoding them because I had things like notepad++ and irfanview, she's told me that I've cloned her SIM card and I have a VPN in the states so I can use things like Vox talk or w.e phone app that's just for the states.. I'm on an s10 plus and she's on an s10 so now that we kind of got the Guatemala guy off the account there is still weird s*** going on she went into developer tools on Google Chrome and it looked at the source code when you're looking at the Google activity when you're logged into the account and it had lots of words like null and hidden and she was swearing up and down thinking that this was proof that I was being shady..
Does anyone have any idea what could have possibly moved my files onto her account whether that be through her signing into my Google s*** but I mean yeah she feels like my phone's infected her phone or my computer has infected hers and I think it was just her and experience self somehow enabling it to like share all files I don't know I can't tell you everything she's possibly gotten into but she's clicked on everything a woman could click on oh and side note if you reach this far and you read all this thank you for taking the time because this is a serious issue in my life right now this was also in the beginner or new help thread I will also attach pictures the cheese sent me over the last month or so showing that I was being shady and did some s*** to her phone that I had rooted it or mirrored her storage
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Lol! Seems like you are really under some big trouble...
By the way, did you check if partner sharing in on? And did you add her as a family member to your google account and granted permissions for her account to access yours? Check these first. Google them if you don't know how to...
And maybe prove her that her phone isn't rooted and show her that even Knox in her S10 isn't tripped concluding that you didn't do anything and maybe proving her they might have happened by mistake.
Venkata Lochan Nune said:
Lol! Seems like you are really under some big trouble...
By the way, did you check if partner sharing in on? And did you add her as a family member to your google account and granted permissions for her account to access yours? Check these first. Google them if you don't know how to...
And maybe prove her that her phone isn't rooted and show her that even Knox in her S10 isn't tripped concluding that you didn't do anything and maybe proving her they might have happened by mistake.
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So I check partner sharing and I believe that's a part of the Google photos side of Google nothing seems to be enabled I also found some other pictures that explain some of my pain I must have been encoding my drive because of the
BoosieBC said:
So I check partner sharing and I believe that's a part of the Google photos side of Google nothing seems to be enabled I also found some other pictures that explain some of my pain I must have been encoding my drive because of the
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Hmmm. Maybe try proving your innocence by the way I said..
She reads root and thinks ta da, it must be rooted... I explained all that does is allow people to like tweak their phones better sort of like jailbreaking but there's no convincing her of that
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She reads root and thinks ta da, it must be rooted... I explained all that does is allow people to like tweak their phones better sort of like jailbreaking but there's no convincing her of that
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Try proving in a way like using a root checker.
Get some one else's device and show the same root certificates...
This may help.
And did you show her that her KNOX is still intact and it did not trip.? If no, first do it... that way, you could prove that nothing just happened to her device and its still secure and not rooted.
Then maybe you could give her other explanations...
She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's it's a serious problem
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She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's it's a serious problem
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Ohh MMAAANNN, this is too much..
Is she still mad at you? first try calming her down. Get another device from your friend or someone else if possible and show her that every Android has such things. If she still doesn't believe, ask her to get on XDA and try a conversation with the XDA senior/staff members about all her doubts...
Try your best.
Know something? These XDA guys are really awesome. They help a lot if required.
She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's
Bro we've gone to war over this and the f***** up part is right now it's like she's like just admit it and we can get past it... And it's like first off I'm not doing it she thinks that because I used to run a video game back in the day which was a pre-compiled server that I didn't have to do any sort of coding whatsoever other than edit like Lua and XML she feels like I'm this master coder but I'm not.. also I don't have the willpower and determination to learn or care enough to getting into her phone I just asked her to show me what I wanted to see and if she didn't want to show me it then I would have a problem I would not go about the same matter by like hacking her phone... So her she's like well if you're going to keep lying well then I can't be with somebody that's going to keep lying.. well.fk... I am going to get her on here cuz I really would like to figure out what f*** this all up
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She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's
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Wait, why did you just resend an old msg of yours...? Doesn't make sense
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Bro we've gone to war over this and the f***** up part is right now it's like she's like just admit it and we can get past it... And it's like first off I'm not doing it she thinks that because I used to run a video game back in the day which was a pre-compiled server that I didn't have to do any sort of coding whatsoever other than edit like Lua and XML she feels like I'm this master coder but I'm not.. also I don't have the willpower and determination to learn or care enough to getting into her phone I just asked her to show me what I wanted to see and if she didn't want to show me it then I would have a problem I would not go about the same matter by like hacking her phone... So her she's like well if you're going to keep lying well then I can't be with somebody that's going to keep lying.. well.fk... I am going to get her on here cuz I really would like to figure out what f*** this all up
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First relax, tell her that you will ignore this all first get past it. Later, when every you are free and happy with something, you could explain her everything slowly.... Don't you think this will work out?
Alliance shield app bricked my phone...the owner (RRiVEN) banned me for asking about the permissions his app uses and he got butthurt and banned my account and ip address knowing it would soft brick my phone if i factory reset it with all the apps I disabled and now I can't remove the spyware/malware infected app or recover my device back to factory settings...him and his app destroyed my brand new 1200 dollar s21 ultra
Wow. I used this app and I didn't get my phone blocked. Maybe the problem is something else? Re-record everything on your phone.
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Wow. I used this app and I didn't get my phone blocked. Maybe the problem is something else? Re-record everything on your phone.
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You didnt get you phone hacked using this trash app because you didnt question the owner of the app about the shady invasive malicious permissions it uses ...smh
Also this app proxys all your data and activity thru his server....the required sign up and login for the app to work is the first dead giveaway and a huge red flag
Lol...the owner of this app doesnt even use ssl for his server or app...its all tsl...unencrypted...lol...poor fella has no clue whos monitoring and accessing his server and network now...smh...this app wont be around much longer...i promise ...lol
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You didnt get you phone hacked using this trash app because you didnt question the owner of the app about the shady invasive malicious permissions it uses ...smh
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You may be right. Be careful next time.
yeah the owner is in trouble and he dont even know it....he even tried to push a zip file to my phone (script)
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Lol...the owner of this app doesnt even use ssl for his server or app...its all tsl...unencrypted...lol...poor fella has no clue whos monitoring and accessing his server and network now...smh...this app wont be around much longer...i promise ...lol
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I can't believe I missed this thread. Such gold in here.
Since you brought it up, you were banned after you made false claims about the Shield. We offered you MANY chances to prove your claims and you never did, just more talk and more claims and never any proof. Which I expect you will do here, can't wait I have my popcorn ready.
My favorite part is where you think SSL is encrypted and TLS isn't. Protip: SSL is insecure and shouldn't be used, ever. But don't take my word for it. Take Cloudflare's, one of the experts on this - https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ssl/what-is-ssl/
As far as the shield not being around much longer, well that is also wrong, still going strong - never got an email or call from my Samsung rep like you said I would. You sure you were talking to Samsung and they said they were shutting us down?
The dots in Gmail, nothing to do with my script (Android doesn't run scripts, it runs Java FYI) Dots in Gmail don't do anything, once again don't take my word for it take Google's, you know, the owner of Gmail - https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7436150?hl=en
We block dots in Gmail because it gives spammers/scammers unlimited email addresses. [email protected] gets blocked register again with [email protected] same email inbox. That one gets banned, repeat with another .
The claim of a zip file being pushed to a device is flat out false. You made that claim and never produced the zip file, or evidence it came from the Shield.
A quick check will prove the Shield couldn't do it. We don't ask for or want the Storage permissions. Without them we can't access, add, delete, or create any file outside our apps protected folder. Unless you are suggesting we are using a zero day Android exploit to push a zip file to your device (zip files don't execute so why would we do that in the first place?)
The claim that we proxy all of your traffic through my servers is easily debunked. If that were the case you would see every site using HTTPS throw a certificate error, (most apps won't work either) it is why you use HTTPS so you know if your connection is being hijacked.
We are also confused what shady malicious permissions you are talking about. Android defines the permissions and you either request to use them or not. Once requested the user must grant ones that can cause harm to your device, like storage (once again we don't ask for, we don't want it).
If you have made it this far I will tell you our theory why Hellfish is so bent on spreading lies. He/she used the Shield to disable some critical system apps and bricked their device. Mad, which we would also be, they reached out to us where we informed them sorry nothing we can do now, it is bricked. They also disabled safe mode and factory reset. Once again we have warnings stating be careful what you disable and to understand what you are doing.
Enraged they started spreading lies and when called out they doubled down, and tripled down until we banned them. We have our limits.
The best part, and we saved the login logs, is not even a day later Hellfish was logging in to the app on a S21 ultra. Guess you found a way to get it working. When confronted more lies were spread and that account was banned. (We kept finding your alt accounts because you kept having the name Hellfish in them. We figured after the first alt was banned you would figure it out, but you made it too easy to find you. I gave up looking for you after the fourth alt account was banned, if you want to use the app and keep bricking your phone go for it)
If you haven't noticed we don't bow to pressure or are PC. You mess up and blame us we call you on it, you either own up to your mistake or get banned. If that means I have social problem then ok, fine by me, I sleep just fine at night.
Including screenshot of the Shield having no permissions, most games have more permissions than we do.
lmao...80-90% of what you said is straight up lies...you did all sorts of messed up stuff...hell you even hacked my discord and changed my password...then when my team bypassed your malicious app login you sent me emails threatening me and saying i broke laws and all sorts of dumb sh** ...you know what your doing is wrong....alot of other people see and know what your doing...you log passwords...your app has multiple permissions...exodus and other online checkers
riven you wouldnt by any chance be running a bitcoin mining scam would ya? ...lol....you run scripts and exe. files thru chrome remotely...i seen it with my own eyes...stop denying it...you know all bs aside i was actually nice and trying to help but you got butthurt when i showed the true app permissions to the whole world to see...as far as whats already been done is done...mark my words ...your app WILL NOT BE AROUND FOREVER
you couldnt pay me to use your malicious app .....lol...since my run with you ive already compiled and built my own disabler app ...and guess what..it requires no internet connection...no logins ...no permissions of any kind..has no trackers or anayltics ...and its 100% free..unlike your bitcoin mining app/alliance shield app...lmao.
oh yeah one last thing [email protected]
RRiVEN said:
I can't believe I missed this thread. Such gold in here.
Since you brought it up, you were banned after you made false claims about the Shield. We offered you MANY chances to prove your claims and you never did, just more talk and more claims and never any proof. Which I expect you will do here, can't wait I have my popcorn ready.
My favorite part is where you think SSL is encrypted and TLS isn't. Protip: SSL is insecure and shouldn't be used, ever. But don't take my word for it. Take Cloudflare's, one of the experts on this - https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ssl/what-is-ssl/
As far as the shield not being around much longer, well that is also wrong, still going strong - never got an email or call from my Samsung rep like you said I would. You sure you were talking to Samsung and they said they were shutting us down?
The dots in Gmail, nothing to do with my script (Android doesn't run scripts, it runs Java FYI) Dots in Gmail don't do anything, once again don't take my word for it take Google's, you know, the owner of Gmail - https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7436150?hl=en
We block dots in Gmail because it gives spammers/scammers unlimited email addresses. [email protected] gets blocked register again with [email protected] same email inbox. That one gets banned, repeat with another .
The claim of a zip file being pushed to a device is flat out false. You made that claim and never produced the zip file, or evidence it came from the Shield.
A quick check will prove the Shield couldn't do it. We don't ask for or want the Storage permissions. Without them we can't access, add, delete, or create any file outside our apps protected folder. Unless you are suggesting we are using a zero day Android exploit to push a zip file to your device (zip files don't execute so why would we do that in the first place?)
The claim that we proxy all of your traffic through my servers is easily debunked. If that were the case you would see every site using HTTPS throw a certificate error, (most apps won't work either) it is why you use HTTPS so you know if your connection is being hijacked.
We are also confused what shady malicious permissions you are talking about. Android defines the permissions and you either request to use them or not. Once requested the user must grant ones that can cause harm to your device, like storage (once again we don't ask for, we don't want it).
If you have made it this far I will tell you our theory why Hellfish is so bent on spreading lies. He/she used the Shield to disable some critical system apps and bricked their device. Mad, which we would also be, they reached out to us where we informed them sorry nothing we can do now, it is bricked. They also disabled safe mode and factory reset. Once again we have warnings stating be careful what you disable and to understand what you are doing.
Enraged they started spreading lies and when called out they doubled down, and tripled down until we banned them. We have our limits.
The best part, and we saved the login logs, is not even a day later Hellfish was logging in to the app on a S21 ultra. Guess you found a way to get it working. When confronted more lies were spread and that account was banned. (We kept finding your alt accounts because you kept having the name Hellfish in them. We figured after the first alt was banned you would figure it out, but you made it too easy to find you. I gave up looking for you after the fourth alt account was banned, if you want to use the app and keep bricking your phone go for it)
If you haven't noticed we don't bow to pressure or are PC. You mess up and blame us we call you on it, you either own up to your mistake or get banned. If that means I have social problem then ok, fine by me, I sleep just fine at night.
Including screenshot of the Shield having no permissions, most games have more permissions than we do.
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one last thing fool...stop putting ip grabber links in the comments...your just asking for trouble ...lmao
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lmao...80-90% of what you said is straight up lies...you did all sorts of messed up stuff...hell you even hacked my discord and changed my password...then when my team bypassed your malicious app login you sent me emails threatening me and saying i broke laws and all sorts of dumb sh** ...you know what your doing is wrong....alot of other people see and know what your doing...you log passwords...your app has multiple permissions...exodus and other online checkers
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All I see is more accusations and ZERO proof. Typical Hellfish.
Where is the poof I log passwords? I will happily give you any version of the Shield going back 2 years. Decompile it and show me the password grabber, or exodus, or anything else. You can't so I won't be holding my breath.
It has multiple permissions yes, but most are so the Knox features work. You know what permissions I don't request? Storage.
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riven you wouldnt by any chance be running a bitcoin mining scam would ya? ...lol....you run scripts and exe. files thru chrome remotely...i seen it with my own eyes...stop denying it...you know all bs aside i was actually nice and trying to help but you got butthurt when i showed the true app permissions to the whole world to see...as far as whats already been done is done...mark my words ...your app WILL NOT BE AROUND FOREVER
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Once again more accusations and yet zero proof. Same offer still stands, show me the malicious permissions, what ever that means.
Since we banned you for lies it has been half a year. My app is still here. Still waiting for it to be taken down. My guess is another 6 months will pass and we will still be here.
You were nice and we were nice untill we asked for proof about your wild claims, then it changed. Suddenly we were the bad guys. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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you couldnt pay me to use your malicious app .....lol...since my run with you ive already compiled and built my own disabler app ...and guess what..it requires no internet connection...no logins ...no permissions of any kind..has no trackers or anayltics ...and its 100% free..unlike your bitcoin mining app/alliance shield app...lmao.
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We are happy for you, really are, no sarcasm, but once again you don't understand why we have the login.
All it takes is reading our website feature list to see why, but hey you compare apples to carrots.
Also you better hope Samsung doesn't find out you are using Knox to disable system apps or your key will be revoked.
If it uses Samsung Knox, then it needs an internet connection, so excuse me If I don't believe you 100%
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oh yeah one last thing [email protected]
one last thing fool...stop putting ip grabber links in the comments...your just asking for trouble ...lmao
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What are you even talking about? I really think you need to get help, your infatuation of us is weird and how you think everything we do is hacking you.
Trust me, if I had a zero day (which I don't) I wouldn't use it to hack random people via my legit app we worked 5 years on and almost half a million downloads. I would sell it for $100,000 and then find the next one.
But hey, you think whatever you want.
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After reading my comment again do you think the Cloudflare or Google link is an ipgrabber? I take it you never heard of Cloudflare or Google, interesting.
Cloudflare has a market cap of 65 Billion and Google 1.99 Trillion, very huge respected tech companies.
Hi Rriven, I just heard about your app and was surprised that it involved using Samsung Knox. That sparked my curiousity, so I did an some analyzing and I have a curious question. Does your connection with the US Military/Army help you create this app. I did see that the DoD (Department of Defense) has approved and worked with Samsung, Knox specifically in creating a phone for the Military. And according to your LinkedIn profile, it shows that you have DoD clearance.
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Hi Rriven, I just heard about your app and was surprised that it involved using Samsung Knox. That sparked my curiousity, so I did an some analyzing and I have a curious question. Does your connection with the US Military/Army help you create this app. I did see that the DoD (Department of Defense) has approved and worked with Samsung, Knox specifically in creating a phone for the Military. And according to your LinkedIn profile, it shows that you have DoD clearance.
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Any legit company can apply to use Samsung Knox, which I did.
My connection with the Military has nothing to do with the app. The Shieldx was created in my spare time using my company (RRiVEN LLC) that I set up as a College project before I joined the Military.
Knox is a very powerful system that the Shield only scratches the surface of what it can do. I am not surprised that the Military uses it.
This hellfish character is a troll. Shield is a great app and works well. Only I don't stick with it because there is still no way to add large hosts from online sources easily. Once that happens, I'm switching. Until then, adhell3 is the best solution.
Wow that war was awesome to read. Go Alliance Shield X whoo whoo !!! lol
this issue has been resolved....mods please delete this entire post
I'm not related to hellfish or whatever, just saw a recommendation in the internet - app to control running services on Samsung devices, well that was quite an experience.
This is just ridiculous software, probably author is a follower of well known Terry Davis (god bless his soul) with his well known TempleOS. IT IS JUST FREAKING RIDICULOUS! never ever install that crap and stay away... just a complete nonsense beyond imagination, you may get a taste of it just browsing through official website, which was already very much suspicions, but I registered and installed anyways... mother of god...
also author's weak excuses about dot in emails? WHAT ON EARTH???? have you ever seen a single rnd generator... do you have a slightest idea how email works, any understanding of modern spam\antispam techniques? zero, zilch... my god... sheeez....
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How did you resolved the issue? pls update me about the solution so we can also try..
HELLFISH420 said:
you couldnt pay me to use your malicious app .....lol...since my run with you ive already compiled and built my own disabler app ...and guess what..it requires no internet connection...no logins ...no permissions of any kind..has no trackers or anayltics ...and its 100% free..unlike your bitcoin mining app/alliance shield app...lmao.
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also how can I get this software of yours? Have you uploaded this in the forum or playstore or somewhere else? Please update me...