Petition: Mobile data toggle for Android - General Topics

Please support and sign the petition so Google can reconsider the mobile data toggle in future Android releases. What I know they disabled it for security reasons, although it was very drasticaly and I think they can do something better, and enable it for some apps or anything they have in mind.
Not many voices has been voiced about this since they disabled it, although I think there are many that are annoyed that we no longer can toggle the mobile data.
Ever since Android 4.+ the automatic mobile data toggle has been disabled by Google. No longer can 3rd party apps auto toggle mobile data on/off with a trigger e.g. when you turn off/on the screen.
This is limitation for many reasons. People not wishing to be radiated all the time, or not wanting to pay for traffic for background operations when phone is not actively in use.
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https://www.change.org/p/google-inc-mobile-data-toggle-for-android
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nicoX said:
Please support and sign the petition so Google can reconsider the mobile data toggle in future Android releases. What I know they disabled it for security reasons, although it was very drasticaly and I think they can do something better, and enable it for some apps or anything they have in mind.
Not many voices has been voiced about this since they disabled it, although I think there are many that are annoyed that we no longer can toggle the mobile data.
https://www.change.org/p/google-inc-mobile-data-toggle-for-android
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Not sure what you are talking about as the data toggle is still available in android and never went anywhere.
What that states is apps can't mess with the toggle which it shouldn't. Disabling data on a smartphone kinda defeats the purpose.

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Selective 3g access app by app

does anybody know of an app or function which allows me to selectively enable or disable 3g data access for certain apps?
I would need to have e-mail and calendar sync operating in push mode (i.e. all times on/connectable), but would like to suppress data connections for some other apps when there is no wifi connection.
i don't have (don't get) an unlimited data plan and android/some apps seem quite talky =). And I only have 100-250megs/month available.
I know there is an iptables firewall available for certain ROMS but it has not (yet?) been ported to Samsung Galaxy. Furthermore my guess is, a firewall would generally disable access, not only on 3g connections.
ty in advance
im in the exact same position you are with the same phone haha.
i would also love to know whether it's possible because i have a feeling the weather widget im using is trying to get information when i dont want it to.
My guess is, that the weather widget is just one of many =)
Hope there will be some positive reply on this
UltimateJuice, the pay version of the free JuiceDefender has a feature that can enable/disable data per app that is currently running. On top of that, it has a plethora of data on/off options that should be looked into regardless
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c00ller said:
UltimateJuice, the pay version of the free JuiceDefender has a feature that can enable/disable data per app that is currently running. On top of that, it has a plethora of data on/off options that should be looked into regardless
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that sounds not bad already. do you know if it is possible to set some access-blocking based on connection type?
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I don't have the pay version myself, but I don't think it has rules for connection type. What exactly do you mean by connection type?
c00ller said:
I don't have the pay version myself, but I don't think it has rules for connection type. What exactly do you mean by connection type?
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being on WIFI vs. GSM Data.
karmakuma said:
being on WIFI vs. GSM Data.
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It does the have controls for automatic turning on WiFi based on certain conditions, but it doesn't look like it gets to the point of being app-specific.
I think it's easier if you consult the official website, lol http://www.latedroid.com/2010/01/juicedefender.html
Any other ideas? Cus that seems to be a taff one
Am I thinking in the wrong direction?
APNDroid is not a solution since it essentialy kills of all traffic over GSM and e-mail + calender sync is a must have for me...
Check out DroidWall in the market. It seems to work for me. I enable all apps to be able to use wifi and disabled most apps via 3G
info5i2002 said:
Check out DroidWall in the market. It seems to work for me. I enable all apps to be able to use wifi and disabled most apps via 3G
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Droidwall only runs in some ROM´s, in those which includes certain modules in kernel compilation.
It´s not working on my HTC Desire custom ROM, so i bought JuiceDefender weeks ago and happy at the moment with its works.

[APP][2.1+] Wireless Minder

I recently released Wireless Minder on the Play Store and would like your feedback. The short description is that it automatically powers down unused radios and occasionally powers them up to check for a connection. A radio "up periscope" is an analogy I like to use.
There are refinements that I'm planning and surely more that I haven't thought of. It's stable and functional enough that I wanted to get it out there. Knowing me, the longer it sits around the more likely it'll get forgotten
Thanks in advance for your feedback, good or bad. I'll try to incorporate your suggestions and fix any device compatibility issues.
Play Store link : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=onenosepeace.wirelessminder
Mod edit: Link that included paid apps removed.
Sounds interesting, but I'll pose this question / scenario:
Say I turn my mobile data [3/4g] off, and use minder to mind to mind mobile data, while wifi is off. If wifi is off and it does its check based on a poll count, when it sees wifi is off, is there anything that will cause it to stay connected? or rather, what's making it stay disabled in that scenario.
teh roxxorz said:
Sounds interesting, but I'll pose this question / scenario:
Say I turn my mobile data [3/4g] off, and use minder to mind to mind mobile data, while wifi is off. If wifi is off and it does its check based on a poll count, when it sees wifi is off, is there anything that will cause it to stay connected? or rather, what's making it stay disabled in that scenario.
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The behavior now is that it will try to keep one of the data connections active. If WiFi is connected, and Mobile 3G/4G is selected, it will periodically shut off the Mobile radio. It powers it back up occasionally to check for texts, missed calls, etc.
If there is no WiFi connectivity, it will not shut off the Mobile radio even if the option is selected. Is your preference to periodically shut off the Mobile radio even if there's no WiFi? I could add that option in the Settings. I plan to add a user option to choose how long to keep the Mobile radio active.
Edit: Fixed backwards logic typo
Not to be rude but it looks like a nice app to have but it seems like you need to redesign the UI.
If you know how to code it then ill design it for you and ill send you the PSD or JPEG files so you
can intergrate it into your app. Just let me know. :good:
Neat application.
SystemErrorOne said:
Not to be rude but it looks like a nice app to have but it seems like you need to redesign the UI.
If you know how to code it then ill design it for you and ill send you the PSD or JPEG files so you
can intergrate it into your app. Just let me know. :good:
Neat application.
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No offense taken. I have no shame over my lack of graphics arts skills I welcome artwork contributions or any other contributions.
chefp said:
The behavior now is that it will try to keep one of the data connections active. If WiFi is connected, and Mobile 3G/4G is selected, it will periodically shut off the Mobile radio. It powers it back up occasionally to check for texts, missed calls, etc.
If there is WiFi connectivity, it will not shut off the Mobile radio even if the option is selected. Is your preference to periodically shut off the Mobile radio even if there's no WiFi? I could add that option in the Settings. I plan to add a user option to choose how long to keep the Mobile radio active.
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That would be preferable, because there are times when I have neither wifi or 3g connected. You can still get calls / text without mobile data, unless you're using a voip app, like google voice, etc.
Good app. Thanks for sharing. If you plan to release a donation version, take my advice and keep these basic features free to cater to your initial user base.
You should add features like: SSID exception lists (guest, public etc.), configurable minding intervals per module and time of day schedules when minder should scan (no need to scan for car bluetooth while sleeping).
EDIT: And automatic start at boot option.
Maybe also make some of these features part of the donate / pro version.
Cheers,
C.
teh roxxorz said:
That would be preferable, because there are times when I have neither wifi or 3g connected. You can still get calls / text without mobile data, unless you're using a voip app, like google voice, etc.
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What you're referring to is disabling Mobile Data which still allows calls/texts to go through. That doesn't save much power since the cellular radio remains on. Wireless Minder completely turns off the cellular radio by using a modified version of Airplane Mode. It's the only switch Android provides to disable the Mobile radio. The side effect of this is of course that calls/texts will not operate when the Mobile radio is turned off.
Would you like an option to periodically check Mobile Data and disable it if there's no cellular service? Searching for service can chew through battery but I'm not sure if disabling Mobile Data will improve that. I'd need to figure out a way to offer both features without confusing people.
cheatman said:
Good app. Thanks for sharing. If you plan to release a donation version, take my advice and keep these basic features free to cater to your initial user base.
You should add features like: SSID exception lists (guest, public etc.), configurable minding intervals per module and time of day schedules when minder should scan (no need to scan for car bluetooth while sleeping).
EDIT: And automatic start at boot option.
Maybe also make some of these features part of the donate / pro version.
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I intend to keep the base version free. I've considered releasing a paid Pro version, it depends on how much work I end up having to put into advanced features. I like your idea of having independent timers for each radio as well as a scheduler. I'll put those on the list and add them as soon as I can.
Wireless Minder does auto-start at bootup. Are you asking for a switch to disable that?
As requested, I've added separate check interval settings for WiFi, Bluetooth and Mobile. Just uploaded version 1.04 to the Play Store and it may take a few hours for the listing to be updated. Sorry this took so long. The custom picker control was a PITB.
Next on the list is a user-selectable schedule for Wireless Minder to be active.
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Version 1.05 adds scheduling: choose when Wireless Minder should manage the radios. I've accounted for the corner cases that I could think of such as the start time being later than the stop time (e.g. night owls). I only have so much time to test all the different scenarios so please let me know if you see a problem.
Keep the requests coming!
Edit: I've seen odd behavior that may be related to scheduling with Mobile 3G/4G enabled on Android 4.2+ devices. On those devices, superuser is required to modify airplane mode. What seems to happen is that superuser blocks for a long time then when it releases, a bunch of queued up checking events fire rapidly in succession. It's been a tough one to nail down so if anyone sees this please report your settings and when it happens (for example, right after the schedule start time passes).
Posted 1.06 today.
version 1.06 adds option to mind mobile data: automatically disable mobile data when WiFi is connected (and automatically enable mobile data when WiFi disconnects).
Add setting option to open hidden Radio Info menu. This allows changes to the mobile radio speed 2G/3G/4G (aka EVDO/GSM, WCDMA, LTE).
Temporarily disable mobile radio control on Android 4.2+ devices due to SU blocking.
i like your idea, but i'm not willing to cut the cord and turn off the cellular radio. I usually leave wifi off anyway, i guess i could just use it for bluetooth...
beddess said:
i like your idea, but i'm not willing to cut the cord and turn off the cellular radio. I usually leave wifi off anyway, i guess i could just use it for bluetooth...
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Yes control of the cellular radio is optional and off by default. Everyone's situation is different, just note that WiFi uses alot less power than the cellular radio. Some phones get twice as much battery runtime when on WiFi compared to only the cellular radio.
Personally I've found the Bluetooth functionality to be handy. When I hop in the car, I don't have to worry about manually turning on Bluetooth (or turning it off when I get out of the car). When a call is made or received, Bluetooth automatically turns on and it connects quickly enough to take the call.
Released version 1.07
Fix WiFi detection for mobile data control
I've seen instances where the WiFi drops but mobile data isn't automatically re-enabled. Let me know if this happens and with what type of WiFi connection (home, public, etc).
On cm10.2 nightly your app is unable to detect that my phone is rooted. But otherwise neat idea, i like this app.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk 4
jelle2503 said:
On cm10.2 nightly your app is unable to detect that my phone is rooted. But otherwise neat idea, i like this app.
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Thanks
I disabled mobile radio control in version 1.06 because su was blocking with scheduling enabled. When this happens, the alarms get queued up and when su decides to unblock, they fire rapidly in succession. It's a very poor user experience. I've tried to pin down the problem but haven't found a solution yet. It's either RootTools or su itself not behaving as expected.
Hi,
i didn't know the app come from here ^_^;
Btw i left a message on playstore..
I would like to turn off gsm radio totally and keep wifi...
the app instead turn off all putting in aero mode.
Is there a way to reactivate Wifi after aero mode on? or just to power off gsm mobile radio and keeping wifi?
Chooo
Ninja_Gundam said:
Hi,
i didn't know the app come from here ^_^;
Btw i left a message on playstore..
I would like to turn off gsm radio totally and keep wifi...
the app instead turn off all putting in aero mode.
Is there a way to reactivate Wifi after aero mode on? or just to power off gsm mobile radio and keeping wifi?
Chooo
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I just saw your message, sorry for the late response. Oddly your comment didn't show on the Play Store. Regarding the mobile radio (e.g. GSM), Google doesn't provide a standard way to control it just by itself. The only common method is through Airplane Mode. To address your concern, I've configured Airplane Mode to allow WiFi and Bluetooth to continue working. The recently released version has revamped mobile/cellular behavior. It defaults to controlling Mobile Data (leaving the radio on). If you'd like it to control the Mobile Radio, there's an option under Settings.
Hope that's explanation makes sense. If you have any more questions please feel free to post here or PM me.
Are there any more updates planned for it or not?

[Q] Hotspot Hacking from Wan?

I have concerns related to the security of S4 as a hotspot. While using the device as a hotspot it
became extremely hot, and started to malfunction. I could see that no one other than myself was
connected to the hotspot. Other unusual activity was observed as well, and the carrier has taken
extreme & unusual steps to prevent me from discussing it with their employees.
When using an S4 with (selinux enforcing) as a hotspot, is there any risk that a malicious webserver operator
can somehow access the device using the carrier assigned (dynamic) ip address?
What type of protections (on the wan side) should be in place to properly secure an S4 with 4.3 for use as a hotspot
so the device itself can't be compromised? (assuming no 3rd party apps are installed) I assume device encryption would
not help this situation because the device has to be decrypted to run the hotspot. It's unclear samasung knox 1.0 could
provide anything useful, and I think they force packets through lookout so it slows the connection.
greens1240 said:
I have concerns related to the security of S4 as a hotspot. While using the device as a hotspot it
became extremely hot, and started to malfunction. I could see that no one other than myself was
connected to the hotspot. Other unusual activity was observed as well, and the carrier has taken
extreme & unusual steps to prevent me from discussing it with their employees.
When using an S4 with (selinux enforcing) as a hotspot, is there any risk that a malicious webserver operator
can somehow access the device using the carrier assigned (dynamic) ip address?
What type of protections (on the wan side) should be in place to properly secure an S4 with 4.3 for use as a hotspot
so the device itself can't be compromised? (assuming no 3rd party apps are installed) I assume device encryption would
not help this situation because the device has to be decrypted to run the hotspot. It's unclear samasung knox 1.0 could
provide anything useful, and I think they force packets through lookout so it slows the connection.
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greens1240 said:
Other unusual activity was observed as well, and the carrier has taken
extreme & unusual steps to prevent me from discussing it with their employees.
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would you elaborate on that?
keen36 said:
would you elaborate on that?
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Those are actually 2 separate issues even though the carrier's actions may seem unusual.
I don't see https in the url for this site, and when I try to force https it redirects to remove the ssl,
so privacy didn't matter here?
Some of the unusual activity involved messages about "sim data" refresh/change when no 3rd party
apps were ever installed, the phone wasn't rooted, and updates turned off. Apps that were turned off
showed subsequent network activity. After a factory reset, disabling some apps and changing other
settings, the main issue was the phone getting extremely hot when using the hotspot to test a vpn
service (vpn settings config on pc not on android).
If your phone number ends up on that "list" you should expect management to take an approach with you
as if litigation is underway. Expect very little cooperation, leave 15 messages over a 30 day
period with 5 different corporate managers to finally get a return call from yet a different manager who
finally admits they have ways to prevent your phone from getting through to support or customer service.
They must have thought none of their customers would figure out that advanced call rejection features
can do all kinds of things, such as put select callers on hold indefinitely, forward the call to a number that
rings but never answers, have the caller hear fast busy signals, have the caller hear a message that no
one is available to take their call, etc, etc. A word to anyone with a cell phone - If you can't get through
using 611 or the carrier's toll free numbers, try calling from a different phone, and if you get through
with the different phone, then you know.
xda admins probably thought that encryption is not overly important, this being a public forum and all... i would also prefer ssl everywhere, but it does add a layer of complexity and also increases demand on the server, so i can see why it is not implemented here.
what do you mean with
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"sim data" refresh/change
? what do you mean when you say you have apps "turned off"?
i can easily see you getting blocked if you annoy any support-hotline too much. i do not see something especially suspicious about that.
if i may be honest: you appear to be a little paranoid.
keen36 said:
xda admins probably thought that encryption is not overly important, this being a public forum and all... i would also prefer ssl everywhere, but it does add a layer of complexity and also increases demand on the server, so i can see why it is not implemented here.
what do you mean with
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"sim data" refresh/change
? what do you mean when you say you have apps "turned off"?
i can easily see you getting blocked if you annoy any support-hotline too much. i do not see something especially suspicious about that.
if i may be honest: you appear to be a little paranoid.
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As network packets travel over the Internet, anyone with physical access to a network device (within the packet route) can view your activity without your knowledge. There are redirection protocols used by thousands of businesses and ISPs to divert port 80 traffic to web caches, internet filtering appliances, and data mining "honeypots". Not sure if still true today that network router and Layer 3 switches manufactured by Cisco ship with a redirection protocol (WCCP) that can be used to re-reroute HTTP traffic through an external filtering or a logging device. Most would agree when it comes to discussions about network security- exchanging plain text email, and requesting advice on plain text message boards is not the best practice.
"refreshing sim data" was a message I observed after the s4 was rebooted. It seemed odd that the message appeared when there was no update or installations. But I'm not an expert on the device, for all I know it might be normal to see the message when there's no activity. As far as turning off apps, it's normal to turn off apps that use resources, drain battery, etc. if you don't need them. Turning off, not deleting, and changing permissions doesn't appear to be an option on 4.3 without a 3rd party app.
As far as sounding paranoid, there's a lot more to the story that I didn't go into involving what looks like attempted identity/phone theft by the carrier's own employee(s) or reseller(s). The way the situation was handled it genuinely looked like a cover up, and still does.
There is still the issue of securing a hotspot which no one from any tier 2 support centers has been able to answer. Not sure if a droidwall or other firewall would be doing anything beneficial since I assume any port scanning would be of the device connected to the hotspot rather than the s4 itself.
yes, anyone along the route can intercept the packets and even read them if they aren't encrypted. yes, there exist man-in-the-middle attacks. yes, most would agree that when exchanging security related information, it would be best to encrypt. that doesn't change what i said: this board is not security oriented, it is a public, developer oriented board. encryption is not very important here, so the admins must have thought that the benefits of not encrypting outwheigh the risk. if you really have sensitive security-related questions, this is not the right place to ask them, i fear.
what do you do exactly when you "turn off" an app? step-by-step?
have you tried googling what "refreshing sim data" does and why it is happening? it looks harmless to me!
last thing, to get this clear: you think that someone hacked your hotspot because the phone gets hot and unstable when you use it? no, wait, you have about a thousand small other things that also point to that explanation, right? this sounds like a case of unfounded paranoia to me. i have some experience with paranoid schizophrenics, and while i am not (!) calling you that, i have to advise you that the way you argue reminds me of them.
you are looking for suspicious things and you do not understand enough about these phones (they are ridiculously complex, so that is quite normal i might add) to see whether something is suspicious or not.
keen36 said:
yes, anyone along the route can intercept the packets and even read them if they aren't encrypted. yes, there exist man-in-the-middle attacks. yes, most would agree that when exchanging security related information, it would be best to encrypt. that doesn't change what i said: this board is not security oriented, it is a public, developer oriented board. encryption is not very important here, so the admins must have thought that the benefits of not encrypting outwheigh the risk. if you really have sensitive security-related questions, this is not the right place to ask them, i fear.
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Do you know a better place to ask advanced security related questions about Samsung/Android? Google and Samsung tech support are unable to answer many basic security questions. Anything advanced is a foreign language to them.Ask 1000 Samsung employees "What is Knox?" and 999 will answer "Never heard of it." Most don't care about security, and never will unless and until they become a victim, and have a substantial loss.
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what do you do exactly when you "turn off" an app? step-by-step?.
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I used app manager. I'f you're familiar with S4 running 4.3 then you're familiar with app manager.
keen36 said:
have you tried googling what "refreshing sim data" does and why it is happening? it looks harmless to me!
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This message may be related to updating network tower(s) info which I agree, by itself would be harmless.
keen36 said:
last thing, to get this clear: you think that someone hacked your hotspot because the phone gets hot and unstable when you use it? no, wait, you have about a thousand small other things that also point to that explanation, right? this sounds like a case of unfounded paranoia to me. i have some experience with paranoid schizophrenics, and while i am not (!) calling you that, i have to advise you that the way you argue reminds me of them.
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There's constant network inbound/outbound activity while the device is idle according to the indicator. The activity could be perfectly benign. Many native apps communicate with the network, but it is also possible to turn off (restrict) background activity to limit which apps have network access. I wouldn't know what it is without running a program such as wireshark. A paranoid schizophrenic might think an app that had permission to access the microphone, recorded audio in the room, then encrypted & uploaded it to a server for later retrieval. That could never happen in the real world right?
I'm merely asking questions about various events which may or may not be signs that there's a problem, but I've not concluded anything. More importantly I'm hoping to find information on how to properly secure a hotspot. You've not offered any information about this so I assume you feel no hardening, modifications, or additions are necessary, and in using default settings the device is impenetrable.
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you are looking for suspicious things and you do not understand enough about these phones (they are ridiculously complex, so that is quite normal i might add) to see whether something is suspicious or not.
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I agree, they are complex. Tech support is of no use, they simply are not trained to respond to a question such as "Is there a firewall running on the device?" "Is code checked for malware by human eyes before an app is put on playstore, or simply trust unknown authors and feedback?"
no, i am sorry, i do not know about any android security related web communities.
i use a sony phone on kitkat, so no, i have no idea what you mean with "app manager". i just want to know what that program did; did it uninstall the apps, did it disable them, did it freeze (rename) them? i have never heard of an app being "turned off", that's why i ask.
what you describe with the microphone listening and uploading what it records to the internet, that is happening every time you open google voice search or -if you use the google now launcher- everytime you go to the homescreen
i do not know how you got the idea that i think that your device is impenetrable ([email protected] sentence btw. )? that is a ridiculous thought, i would never say such a thing. in fact, i am of the conviction that no absolute security can exist on a device which is connected to the internet. there is a reason why some security-related programs are built on machines with no internet access at all.
if you know how to use wireshark, why don't you just use it? if i had to take an uneducated guess, i would think that you would then realise that the network activity you see is benign (not malicious i mean, you might very well discover some nice datamining activity by google etc. ).
i do not know your usecase, if you are living in a country which has an oppressive regime, if you are a general target for hackers somehow (public figure / working at a security-related position etc.), then yes, it might make sense to look at your phones security in detail. if that is not the case, however, then no, i do not think that additional hardening of your hotspot is needed...

Force Location

My wife and I use Life360 to keep track of each other and our kids. Unfortunately my son likes to turn off location on his phone. Is there a way to keep him from doing this?
I think no, tell him dont turn off the gps.
Anyway wait for more reply..
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For security reasons, Android doesn't natively support device policies like the one you want, so you'll need a Mobile Device Manager service. I think this company offers it for free if you don't have a lot of devices https://www.manageengine.com/mobile/mobile-device-management/
Full disclosure - using an MDM would be overkill, but I'm pretty sure there's no other way to force it to remain on.
Anti-theft apps could be used to turn it on when you notice it's off. There was one such app where you could send SMS to the phone to make the phone do various commands, such as turn on location, but I don't remember its name.

blue tooth

Someone keeps turning on blue tooth while on public WiFi were to locate and rid of certificates or intrusive coding
raymondbernard said:
Someone keeps turning on blue tooth while on public WiFi were to locate and rid of certificates or intrusive coding
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You need to provide more info ie what version of Android & security patch date .
Anyhow, You should always use a VPN when accessing a public wifi, only use a trusted provider (many VPN companies are dodgy, they severe you their adds, harvest your data etc many even appear to be controlled by governments ef China, Iran, etc) Use a list of trusted VPN's from a trusted organisation like like the EFF ... though you may trust someone else more ...) Set up a VPN and see if Bluetooth starts, before messing with certs.
Do you have Bluetooth tethering on? Some apps may be able to create a hotspot if allowed.
See "user credentials" in settings for any EXTRA installed certificates, normally this will be empty, unless you or your work or an app have installed a certificate.
Do not mess with system certificates unless you know what you are doing. however you can probably disable most of them, I have, you just have to remember that if you get error msgs warnings from apps or websites this is likely why. Which ones you disable will depend on who you trust & which country you are in.
IronRoo said:
You need to provide more info ie what version of Android & security patch date .
Anyhow, You should always use a VPN when accessing a public wifi, only use a trusted provider (many VPN companies are dodgy, they severe you their adds, harvest your data etc many even appear to be controlled by governments ef China, Iran, etc) Use a list of trusted VPN's from a trusted organisation like like the EFF ... though you may trust someone else more ...) Set up a VPN and see if Bluetooth starts, before messing with certs.
Do you have Bluetooth tethering on? Some apps may be able to create a hotspot if allowed.
See "user credentials" in settings for any EXTRA installed certificates, normally this will be empty, unless you or your work or an app have installed a certificate.
Do not mess with system certificates unless you know what you are doing. however you can probably disable most of them, I have, you just have to remember that if you get error msgs warnings from apps or websites this is likely why. Which ones you disable will depend on who you trust & which country you are in.
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Android patch January 1 2018
Version=asks v 1.4 released on 161228
SMR-jan 1 2018 release MS
No Bluetooth tethering is disabled
System certificates are disabled I do know what doing
When running VPN Bluetooth still sometimes turns on anyway to trace path of access
raymondbernard said:
Android patch January 1 2018
Version=asks v 1.4 released on 161228
SMR-jan 1 2018 release MS
No Bluetooth tethering is disabled
System certificates are disabled I do know what doing
When running VPN Bluetooth still sometimes turns on anyway to trace path of access
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Sorry, just trying to cover all possibilities as I have no idea what you know about security certs, so I try not to assume anything, though I did assume you have turned off Bluetooth scanning already ? Was there a reason you suspect BT certs is your problem? Is there another device listed as connected to your phone when BT turns itself on?
OK, good you are on a relatively recent security patch it seems so many vulnerabilities should already be patched, if it is actually some sort of security issue you have. That said there have already been some Bluetooth related vulnerabilities in 2019 eg this one from March CVE-2019-2009, but it needs BT turned on already, so not your problem. (should have also asked before are you on stock with selinux enforcing?)
I believe Google Play services can sometimes turn on Bluetooth, check "recent location requests" in settings (also might show you another app that is doing it?) Then you can go to, settings> apps> advanced>permissions>location & change setting for Play Services This might of course affect other features you want ... so maybe turn off another app listed there especially if it was listed in "recent location requests" when BT has turned itself on.
No other devices listed on my account
Am useing stock selinux enforcing not google play services as it only gets turned on when on public WiFi will check locations history
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No other devices listed on my account
Am useing stock selinux enforcing not google play services as it only gets turned on when on public WiFi will check locations history
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Good, you should be pretty secure then.
As I understand it, Play Services can be used by other apps to send location requests, it may activate location when it sees a public wifi, so it could be why some people have reported it turning on Bluetooth as this is also part of location. However I'm not 100% clear exactly how this works, so I may be wrong.
Do you know anything about setting up bitcoin wallets as it won't confirm my I'D I've tried several times
raymondbernard said:
Do you know anything about setting up bitcoin wallets as it won't confirm my I'D I've tried several times
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sorry, no

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