So for the first time in my Android life (which is now about 6 years), I am trying to persevere without root. Two reasons... Samsung are of course now refusing warranties for rooted devices.... something which I've previously hammered Apple for doing on their iPhone 3G. How the tables have turned eh? Samsung have almost become everything I hated about Apple.
Other reason, I want to see how much Android Pay enhances (or perhaps not) my life. We'll see whether it's worth keeping in a few weeks. Samsung Pay isn't available in the UK, but I'm not convinced it'll bring much to the party, Android Pay has worked everywhere I've tried so far......
So what lovely features have I lost by being unrooted. #
- Well, losing FolderMount is pissing me off a tad. I like all my WhatsApp junk to be automatically saved on my SD. Instead, I have to copy it periodically via Solid Explorer, a bit time consuming. I think I will also miss the fact I cannot run certain software from the SD card. Pain.
- I've lost the ability to tweak and noodle around with kernel settings etc, although perhaps I'm not missing much as I doubt there's much I would change so far. This phone doesn't seem to get hot and it's running fast enough that I don't think any tweaks to internal SDs etc are needed.
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Other than that I don't think I'm really missing it at all. Yeah, I would have liked a circle instead of a bloody bar for my battery and stuff, but grand scheme of things, I'm still able to customize the device loads (hence I'm running Now Launcher) and get it how I want it.
We'll see in a few weeks whether I'm still dancing the same tune, but so far, I'm holding on
To root or to not root is the question I have often!
I miss my lucky patch
I miss the hotspot mod
I moss clearing my bloatware rather than hiding it.
I miss a lot
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I'm with you on this one Skezza, I was/am mainly holding out for Samsung Pay as I like the integration into the lockscreen so as to avoid having to unlock the phone first. I am in Spain and even though some Banks accept it, mine so far has not :/
Features I am missing from rooting?
Viper4Android!!! Would love to up the sound quality as currently headphone jack output is pretty useless. Using PowerAMP which helps some but its nothing jaw dropping.
Wifi tethering with VPN as I was able to do previously through the app "Wifi Tether Router".
Aside from that, as you say, there is not much else that I would tweak as the phone runs just fine without any performance modding. I would like to edit some visuals here and there such as toggles and battery icon but I can live with the stock look too so no biggie.
Glad to hear that I am not the only one with this dilemma! haha
I have been using root for a while, but have reverted to stock for Android Pay and other non-root features.
I find myself tinkering with the OS less and less as time goes by. I have a bose stereo which makes up for the 'poor' standard output and most of the rooted tweaks I used were cosmetic. There are solutions to most things out there that don't involve root these days too.
I got mine Wednesday at 1pm, was rooted with a custom rom by half past
I'm not worried about the whole custom rom = warranty void issue, i dare them to not replace my phone for a hardware issue i really do, it was the same with the z2, unlock the bootloader = warranty void yet i had mine replaced by Sony 3 times due to hardware issues with no problem. I expect Samsung to do the same, a hardware issue is a hardware issue irrelevant of software
I am using SupermanRom with Magisk currently, Android Pay works for me, FolderMount however does not so i might try out one of the other roms when i have time/ can be bothered
My S7 Edge is my first Android device that I don't feel the need to root and I have had quite a few. I'm satisfied with the performance the way it is. The only thing I miss is Titanium Backup and no bloat ROMs. I really like Samsung Pay and I'm using it more and more often. Also my understanding is that if you have a hardware issue not related to rooting, they cannot deny your warranty.
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SomethingCool said:
To root or to not root is the question I have often!
I miss my lucky patch
I miss the hotspot mod
I moss clearing my bloatware rather than hiding it.
I miss a lot
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Have to be careful mentioning LP, although I do miss that too. Not for nefarious reasons either. LP had a great feature in-which it could detach Amazon apps from the Amazon appstore.... I refuse to use the Amazon appstore, but it has apps that Play doesn't
What's the hotspot mod? Surely they've not blocked hotspots on your phone. I thought those days were long gone.
As for bloatware, I've not actually cleared bloatware since the days of the S1, so not sure if I miss that at all.... yet :fingers-crossed:
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I'm with you on this one Skezza, I was/am mainly holding out for Samsung Pay as I like the integration into the lockscreen so as to avoid having to unlock the phone first. I am in Spain and even though some Banks accept it, mine so far has not :/
Features I am missing from rooting?
Viper4Android!!! Would love to up the sound quality as currently headphone jack output is pretty useless. Using PowerAMP which helps some but its nothing jaw dropping.
Wifi tethering with VPN as I was able to do previously through the app "Wifi Tether Router".
Aside from that, as you say, there is not much else that I would tweak as the phone runs just fine without any performance modding. I would like to edit some visuals here and there such as toggles and battery icon but I can live with the stock look too so no biggie.
Glad to hear that I am not the only one with this dilemma! haha
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It is a genuine dilemma for me too haha and many others I guess. The first thing I felt when I got the phone was not "oooooh wow yay, I've got a new phone" it was "****, do I root it or not", and about an hour of thinking whether I should or shouldn't.
Hopefully your bank will get it soon. NFC debit/credit cards are still convenient of course, it's just nice to know that say I walked out the house to get some shopping and whoops, I forgot my wallet, that I could still pay with my phone. I don't know how Samsung Pay works yet, I'll check it out. For Android Pay you have to hold your finger on the scanner then hold the phone to the NFC device.
Funny you mention Viper, I never used it on my S4 (which I ran custom ROMs on from day one). That said, the sound quality was unimpressive. I often listen to music on my phone though.
WiFi Tethering with VPN, very specific feature I guess. I assume there's no unrooted way of doing that then?
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I have been using root for a while, but have reverted to stock for Android Pay and other non-root features.
I find myself tinkering with the OS less and less as time goes by. I have a bose stereo which makes up for the 'poor' standard output and most of the rooted tweaks I used were cosmetic. There are solutions to most things out there that don't involve root these days too.
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I think that's my feeling too. I wanted to see how root was actually helping me, and actually, I've found that perhaps I didn't require root as much as I actually believed. I do remember on the S4 having to hack the telephony file to unlock certain settings for my network operator, but for some reason, they're already unlocked with the S7 Edge so I can simply edit them from the settings menu. There are other things I might have used root for, but in reality, it was merely a convenience as opposed to a requirement. I'm doing alright without it Touch wood. Fingers crossed haha.
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I got mine Wednesday at 1pm, was rooted with a custom rom by half past
I'm not worried about the whole custom rom = warranty void issue, i dare them to not replace my phone for a hardware issue i really do, it was the same with the z2, unlock the bootloader = warranty void yet i had mine replaced by Sony 3 times due to hardware issues with no problem. I expect Samsung to do the same, a hardware issue is a hardware issue irrelevant of software
I am using SupermanRom with Magisk currently, Android Pay works for me, FolderMount however does not so i might try out one of the other roms when i have time/ can be bothered
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Ahhh haha, fair do man. I was like that with my S4, but I noted before rooting that the S4 had a 8/10 repair-ability rating on iFixit. The Edge is just 3/10. Even replacing the USB port is a horrid task, so the need for that warranty is a bit more apparent. Your problem is that Samsung have written it into their T&C's. Root your phone, they can reject warranty claims. Whether they do is a different matter. HTC were very willing to fix my girlfriends phone, despite the fact it was rooted and had the bootloader unlocked. So it does seem to be on a company by company basis. I don't know how Samsung handle warranty claims when a Knox flag has been triggered.
It's an interesting topic of debate though.
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My S7 Edge is my first Android device that I don't feel the need to root and I have had quite a few. I'm satisfied with the performance the way it is. The only thing I miss is Titanium Backup and no bloat ROMs. I really like Samsung Pay and I'm using it more and more often. Also my understanding is that if you have a hardware issue not related to rooting, they cannot deny your warranty.
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Two interesting points. I also missed TB but I've actually realized many of the features I used TB for were actually completely achievable via an unrooted app or two. A good example, I used to use TB to carry my SMS messages from one phone to another. I've done this for years and have SMS going back as far as 2011. Originally, TB was the only way you could do it, as the tools around that time (like Sprite backup) were utter crap.
I used SMS Backup and Restore, free from the Play Store. Within a few seconds, it had transferred 4600 messages perfectly. No need for TB.
This is the first device I've ever owned that I've not rooted, which seems incredible given my track history! Having come from the HTC Hero to the Sensation to multiples of Galaxys S2/S3/S4/S6, the Notes 3 and 4, the Nexus 6P and now the S7 Edge.
The S7 Edge is the only one I've never rooted, simply because I didn't need to with 4GB of RAM.
The lag I am experiencing is of my own making (thousands of images and 4K videos).
Even though I'd like the latest in ROM innovation from the frankly fantastic developers here on XDA, I also want to be part of the power-users who don't root and get their OTA updates.
It's oddly pleasing.
Just my two cents.
I couldn't care less about Samsung/Android Pay, it personally holds no interest for me, but that's just me.
I'm w/o root on my s7 edge, and I don't miss the rooting days even a bit.
I don't use nfc payment, and frankly speaking, Samsung cloud is top notch for backup purpose. Also, touchwiz never bothered me. Rather, I liked it over Nexus interface due to its functionality.
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skezza said:
Have to be careful mentioning LP, although I do miss that too. Not for nefarious reasons either. LP had a great feature in-which it could detach Amazon apps from the Amazon appstore.... I refuse to use the Amazon appstore, but it has apps that Play doesn't
What's the hotspot mod? Surely they've not blocked hotspots on your phone. I thought those days were long gone.
As for bloatware, I've not actually cleared bloatware since the days of the S1, so not sure if I miss that at all.... yet :fingers-crossed:
It is a genuine dilemma for me too haha and many others I guess. The first thing I felt when I got the phone was not "oooooh wow yay, I've got a new phone" it was "****, do I root it or not", and about an hour of thinking whether I should or shouldn't.
Hopefully your bank will get it soon. NFC debit/credit cards are still convenient of course, it's just nice to know that say I walked out the house to get some shopping and whoops, I forgot my wallet, that I could still pay with my phone. I don't know how Samsung Pay works yet, I'll check it out. For Android Pay you have to hold your finger on the scanner then hold the phone to the NFC device.
Funny you mention Viper, I never used it on my S4 (which I ran custom ROMs on from day one). That said, the sound quality was unimpressive. I often listen to music on my phone though.
WiFi Tethering with VPN, very specific feature I guess. I assume there's no unrooted way of doing that then?
I think that's my feeling too. I wanted to see how root was actually helping me, and actually, I've found that perhaps I didn't require root as much as I actually believed. I do remember on the S4 having to hack the telephony file to unlock certain settings for my network operator, but for some reason, they're already unlocked with the S7 Edge so I can simply edit them from the settings menu. There are other things I might have used root for, but in reality, it was merely a convenience as opposed to a requirement. I'm doing alright without it Touch wood. Fingers crossed haha.
Ahhh haha, fair do man. I was like that with my S4, but I noted before rooting that the S4 had a 8/10 repair-ability rating on iFixit. The Edge is just 3/10. Even replacing the USB port is a horrid task, so the need for that warranty is a bit more apparent. Your problem is that Samsung have written it into their T&C's. Root your phone, they can reject warranty claims. Whether they do is a different matter. HTC were very willing to fix my girlfriends phone, despite the fact it was rooted and had the bootloader unlocked. So it does seem to be on a company by company basis. I don't know how Samsung handle warranty claims when a Knox flag has been triggered.
It's an interesting topic of debate though.
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I had rooted my s4. Bricked the phone due to my own fault. Samsung replaced the motherboard in warranty.
P.S.- I told them I was updating the phone via Kies and it suddenly stopped working.
skezza said:
Two interesting points. I also missed TB but I've actually realized many of the features I used TB for were actually completely achievable via an unrooted app or two.
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I have found some non-root apps that kind of does some of the things that Titanium backup does. Like Package Disabler that can freeze apps you don't need but can't delete. So I'm getting use to not rooting. I like just using the phone and not spending so much time and energy screwing around with ROM's and recoveries and constantly flashing this and that.
I rooted my S7 edge because of Pokemon - yeah Im here for the blames.
and I do regret it often, my s7 edge was working absolutely great without the need of rooting.
Yeah, I do hate bloat apps that I have to hide instead of remove but I could live with that, and also the performance even with those bloat just hiding is still top north.
Now Im officially out from using Samsung Pay..which is a huge letdown.
For audio, just use poweramp beta with direct hardware output enabled.
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I am too trying to not root.
After recently softbricked my phone, with knox tripped, and had to send to Samsung for repairs (fortunately, Samsung repaired it without charging anything).
Miss Titanium backup, lucky patcher, xposed for greenify and mass storage enabler.
Right now i really wanted to go back to ACP8 firmware, but i don't want to lose all the data from my apps and games.
Hansoliv said:
Good day.
I am too trying to not root.
After recently softbricked my phone, with knox tripped, and had to send to Samsung for repairs (fortunately, Samsung repaired it without charging anything).
Miss Titanium backup, lucky patcher, xposed for greenify and mass storage enabler.
Right now i really wanted to go back to ACP8 firmware, but i don't want to lose all the data from my apps and games.
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So perhaps Samsung are less ruthless than I thought?
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So perhaps Samsung are less ruthless than I thought?
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It really depends on your location how Samsung's service partner or Samsung is going to handle your warranty claim.
got my s7 edge yesterday ... and haven't rooted it yet..usually all my mobiles are rooted within an hour of getting it
planning to be un-rooted for a while..lets see how long i can resist the temptation
I can't live without root, so my S7E is rooted and the flag tripped, and has been since about a week after I purchased it in March. I've had numerous Samsung devices and generally they've been pretty resilient, hopefully that continues.
However, saying that, Samsung's deliberate decision to effectively refuse warranty repairs if a phone is rooted (as these days it's virtually impossible to root these things without tripping Knox) means this is definitely my last Samsung phone.
I'm using this as my work phone as well, so I have Airwatch installed. I'm trying not to root so that I don't have to mess with Root Cloak or be afraid of the possibility that Airwatch will have an update in the future which breaks the root cloak apps.
So far, I miss:
1) Adaway - tried the non-root option where it opens a VPN connection to block ads, I found it slowed down my internet too much to use it 24/7.
2) Moving apps and their obbs to SD - having only 24+gb, have to be picky on how many games I have installed or I'll run out of space very soon.
3) TiBu - Helium is a good alternative, just don't like that I have to connect it to my PC before Helium will start
4) Ability to power off/reboot the phone via an app. I have visions of wearing down the power button too much.
Excellent suggestion, thanks!
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Hi. I currently have the Verizon Galaxy S5 on Kit Kat 4.4.4. I'm looking to go to tmo for WiFi calling and other stuff. I'm looking at the One M9, S6, G3. I can't decide. Each has their pros and cons. And making decisions is one of the hardest things for me in my life. I know of the G4.
One thing I'm looking for is to have a darker ui. I don't like Lolipop being so white. I know each phone has themes but not sure if I like much of them. I'm planning to root to get rid of bloat apps and to maybe change the ui look if possible. Except I'm not good at rooting or I need step by step easy info on how. I have rooted before the touch pro 2 I think.
Thanks.
Are you buying outright, or are you going with the payment plan and/or trade-in-your-old-device plan?
If you're buying outright, remember that this opens you up to any unlocked GSM phone like Nexuses or the OnePlus One. No wifi calling though.
If you're going with a payment plan, of the phones you listed, the G3 will have the most custom development support. It's easily rooted, and you can flash custom ROMs like Cyanogenmod, which give you lots of theming options. You'll have to stick with the stock ROM for wifi calling though. I can't speak for stock themes with these phones. Even with the stock ROM though, the G3 will give you the most options, especially with Xposed. It won't be quite as future-proof as the S6 or M9, but it'll still be good for at least couple years before it's "obsolete" rather than simply no longer the latest and greatest.
Hi. Thanks.
I'm switching to tmo and would be paying for the phone per month and then upgrade after half of it is paid off which is when they let you. I would be trading in my S5 as well. So I'm guessing they'd pay off my contract and buy my phone for $? on the trade in.
But it's really hard to pick. I kind of think the G3 is a side grade and the others a small upgrade. Plus when I got my Verizon account last year I first got the G3 but returned it for the S5 because landscape didn't work on the G3.
I like the screen size of the G3 and resolution. Performance I'm sure is fine. But I don't like how flat they made the ui and how is all white.
I've seen some s6 themes and the avengers one seems nice and a purple one too. The space one seems ok too.
I would really like to try a rom to unbloat the phone apps. And change the ui color.
Why no WiFi calling except stock?
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Why no WiFi calling except stock?
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Wifi calling with T-Mobile uses their proprietary app, which only works on certain phones, and only with official T-Mobile firmware.
Root with the S6 is possible, but it'll void the warranty. Granted, rooting usually voids warranties, but Samsung has this "security" feature called KNOX. With the G3 you can root it and install custom recovery, but if necessary, you can revert back to stock and no-one's the wiser. With KNOX though, they'll know you've hacked the phone (if they check), and it's irreversible.
Root isn't necessary to "debloat" though. Deleting system apps is often a bad idea, and doesn't really do you any good. Disabling or "freezing" them is typically a better approach. For example, T-Mobile has this "feature" called Visual Voicemail. It sucks, it's useless, and it gives you constant notifications and reminders to update. Just disable it. Debloating system apps doesn't free up any space; your phone has a certain amount of space already partitioned for "system", and deleting apps from this partition won't free up space for games or apps or photos. Just remember to disable apps one at a time so if something goes wrong you know which app caused the problems and you can undo it.
Thanks. Debloat means less apps running right? That happens when you disable? On my S5 I've disabled several. Does that mean they are truly disabled and never running? They are hidden too and I'm not rooted.
Ok. Sounds like the G3 is the safer better way maybe especially if I plan to trade it in for an upgrade in a year right?
Then there's the One M9
Still trying to decide.
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Anyone please more feedback.
I got the m9. I'm Having issues though. Could someone please help me out? Thank you.
Chrome is laggy when scrolling up and down on web pages.
Everytime im in themes the phone says HTC sense home unexpectedly quit. Every single time.
Phone system update is current as of yesterday.
Thank you all.
Anybody interested in the bootloader and unlocking it I encourage you to sign this petition. These phones are ours to use how we see fit and the more noise we make the better our chances are. I bought this phone under the assumption that nothing had changed and for Samsung to change their policies without notice isn't acceptable for me and hopefully you as well. Thank you
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Dude, there's honestly no point. Ive been on xda for about 10 years and ive always need to root every single android phone ive owned. Until recently, Samsung started making pretty good android phones starting with the s6 and up. I had no reason to root my s6, note 5, and now no reason to root my s7 edge. Im not saying you should have no need to root yours, i just feel like Samsung and android have come a long way and nowadays rooting serves no purpose;for me at least. Is rooting worth losing Samsung pay or any other security features we need to protect us? Not really. Also, Samsung can change their policies as they please, you still bought their phone. Rooting died a couple years ago, move on. Best of luck with your petition.
No point is simply just not true. I haven't even looked at a Samsung until the S6 last year and I got the M9 instead. Now with HTC dumping boomsound on the M10 I switched after 8 HTC phones. While I agree Samsung has come a long way not only in hardware but software and you can do more things now without root I still miss it a lot. Have this phone a week now, not having root sucks. It's just not the same. While yes you can do quite a bit without it, there is still plenty missing. People saying that root is dead or they don't need it is just denial for the fact that things have got so locked down it's not worth justifying the hassle which might just be true.
Let's say knox was never developed, triangle away still worked so you could also go back to stock and you could flash away with an unlocked bootloader everyone would be singing a totally different tune and you guys would be rooted. Now that Samsung has total control, we have to justify it to ourselves on why it makes sense not to root which frankly right now I think is the case.
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Dude, there's honestly no point. Ive been on xda for about 10 years and ive always need to root every single android phone ive owned. Until recently, Samsung started making pretty good android phones starting with the s6 and up. I had no reason to root my s6, note 5, and now no reason to root my s7 edge. Im not saying you should have no need to root yours, i just feel like Samsung and android have come a long way and nowadays rooting serves no purpose;for me at least. Is rooting worth losing Samsung pay or any other security features we need to protect us? Not really. Also, Samsung can change their policies as they please, you still bought their phone. Rooting died a couple years ago, move on. Best of luck with your petition.
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Its all good if you have no interest then that's fine but I for one do. I hate touchjiz and the bloatware that is just the tip of the iceberg. Rooting will never die maybe some people don't but most that have rooted will always want it. Thanks for your input though. Without root we really don't have any need for a development section so this forum will likely die. I'm jumping ship to the lg g5 until samsung does something if they ever do.
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Its all good if you have no interest then that's fine but I for one do. I hate touchjiz and the bloatware that is just the tip of the iceberg. Rooting will never die maybe some people don't but most that have rooted will always want it. Thanks for your input though. Without root we really don't have any need for a development section so this forum will likely die. I'm jumping ship to the lg g5 until samsung does something if they ever do.
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I personally have no problem with Samsung locking things down. In fact for the general pop it will be great, but since we live in the free world it Samsung should still allow the option of choice. As long as they have the proper disclaimer in place that warns of consequences the one can make the decision. I think the big reason for the locked bootloader has to do with carriers leasing the phones. Since rooting breaks the pay app and can't reversed. Just imagine if you got a previous leased phone and the pay app doesn't work. What samsung should do is allow for a complete reset factory action including knox. Maybe not have it available to the general public but maybe the carriers or somewhere higher up. This would give the best of both worlds.
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Dude, there's honestly no point. Ive been on xda for about 10 years and ive always need to root every single android phone ive owned. Until recently, Samsung started making pretty good android phones starting with the s6 and up. I had no reason to root my s6, note 5, and now no reason to root my s7 edge. Im not saying you should have no need to root yours, i just feel like Samsung and android have come a long way and nowadays rooting serves no purpose;for me at least. Is rooting worth losing Samsung pay or any other security features we need to protect us? Not really. Also, Samsung can change their policies as they please, you still bought their phone. Rooting died a couple years ago, move on. Best of luck with your petition.
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Dude you've been here 5 years. I've been here 7. Neither of which matters. Rooting didn't die any more than rock and roll did when disco came along.
I drive a semi and without root I can't get the headphone, or bluetooth, volumes high enough when running through the trucks stereo. And before you start talking about headphones, those that cover both ears are illegal and i don't like listening through only one ear. So I want root. If you don't that's wonderful for you, but please don't step onto a developers board, claim seniority you just don't have, and try to tell people the board has become meaningless.
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Dude you've been here 5 years. I've been here 7. Neither of which matters. Rooting didn't die any more than rock and roll did when disco came along.
I drive a semi and without root I can't get the headphone, or bluetooth, volumes high enough when running through the trucks stereo. And before you start talking about headphones, those that cover both ears are illegal and i don't like listening through only one ear. So I want root. If you don't that's wonderful for you, but please don't step onto a developers board, claim seniority you just don't have, and try to tell people the board has become meaningless.
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This is my second account ive definitely been here since the palm and original HTC touch days with Windows pocket lol. But to the point, rooting is dead per se, but there's definitely less of a reason to do so these days. Touch wiz is damn near perfect. Even for those thay dont like it can slap a launcher on it. I see no purpose to root, i can block ads with ad guard. Also stock android doesnt have all the bells and whistles either so id rsther stay stock. Again, i know others may need it, but i was simply saying its pointless thess days. I still come here for many other things, just not to root.
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This is my second account ive definitely been here since the palm and original HTC touch days with Windows pocket lol.
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I stand corrected.
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Again, i know others may need it, but i was simply saying its pointless these days.
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Are not 'needed' and 'pointless' antonyms? You just refuted your own statement.
And I don't use stock android. I use rooted and modded versions of Sprint's base ROM. The only stock versions I have truly liked and used are by Temesek, and those tend to be few and far between on Sprint variants.
I also never use Touchwiz. It's been NovaLauncher for years now for me. And I just prefer all the little conveniences and tweaks that you can make with root. Like an extended power menu without having to add more apps from Google Play. And several diagnostic tools I use to troubleshoot when I have a weak or slow signal where I shouldn't.
So I'm really happy that your content to live with what Samsung and Sprint deign to allow you, I'm not. And since these boards seem to be doing just fine, I would guess that there are enough people who agree with me to make your opinion not nearly as wide spread as you believe it to be.
And one final question, if you believe rooting is pointless and dead, why are you still on these boards?
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I stand corrected.
Are not 'needed' and 'pointless' antonyms? You just refuted your own statement.
And I don't use stock android. I use rooted and modded versions of Sprint's base ROM. The only stock versions I have truly liked and used are by Temesek, and those tend to be few and far between on Sprint variants.
I also never use Touchwiz. It's been NovaLauncher for years now for me. And I just prefer all the little conveniences and tweaks that you can make with root. Like an extended power menu without having to add more apps from Google Play. And several diagnostic tools I use to troubleshoot when I have a weak or slow signal where I shouldn't.
So I'm really happy that your content to live with what Samsung and Sprint deign to allow you, I'm not. And since these boards seem to be doing just fine, I would guess that there are enough people who agree with me to make your opinion not nearly as wide spread as you believe it to be.
And one final question, if you believe rooting is pointless and dead, why are you still on these boards?
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I still come here for other things, like questions i may have, apps, reviews, and ive been here for so long i still help others when i can. Its still a community i am apart of regardless if i root or not.
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Root or not to root is a matter of opinion, I think it is far from dead or useless imo.
I have rooted every phone I have ever had that it was capable on within 24 hours of getting the phone just because I want to put on the phone what I want not what Samsung thinks I want.
I don't fit well with the masses and rooting let's me be that way with my phone....
That said this has been seen before on other devices and has been worked around by the amazing devs on this sight.
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Rooting will never die unless the manufacturers kill it. It has too much of a following with people that love to root and need to root. So yes no root is a huge deal for me I'm coming from a Nexus 6 where I had multirom and weekly updates. The phone never gets boring when it is unleashed and rootable. I have had the Edge for about a week and I'm already bored/frustrated with it. I'm going to the Sprint store today to try and return it. My Nexus 6 flies compared to the S7 Edge even though its specs are way better. Hardware can only get you so far the software is what makes the phone fly. The stock S7 Edge has so much BS bloatware and unneeded stuff that slows it down significantly. Give me the international one and maybe I would keep it. Also, the Samsung pay is a joke for me because it doesn't support any of my banks or cards. I will be preordering the LG G5 or waiting for the next Nexus.
We should have the option.
I don't really need to root today, because I primarily use the phone for business and I don't want to have it down because I change my mind on which ROM to pick every 6 hours.
But I want the option to get rid of the ****, yes, ****, they put on this phone. Why they load junk I can't get rid of is beyond me.
If we can't control the phone, I'll have to jump off the Samsung bandwagon next year...no matter how good they make it.
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Anybody interested in the bootloader and unlocking it I encourage you to sign this petition. These phones are ours to use how we see fit and the more noise we make the better our chances are. I bought this phone under the assumption that nothing had changed and for Samsung to change their policies without notice isn't acceptable for me and hopefully you as well. Thank you
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Is there one for Sprint? This petition does not go to them at all.
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So I've had this thought about this locked bootloader problem. I am not sure if this is a viable solution or whether it would even work. I was thinking that our European brethren has an unlocked bootloader. Would there be a way to Odin their bootloader on our devicesor would the fact that they have a different processor be a problem. Because in theory if we had a Samsung sign Odin file of with an unlocked bootloader we should be able to Odin and have a unlocked bootloader, no? Or is there more to it than that?
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So I've had this thought about this locked bootloader problem. I am not sure if this is a viable solution or whether it would even work. I was thinking that our European brethren has an unlocked bootloader. Would there be a way to Odin their bootloader on our devicesor would the fact that they have a different processor be a problem. Because in theory if we had a Samsung sign Odin file of with an unlocked bootloader we should be able to Odin and have a unlocked bootloader, no? Or is there more to it than that?
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Good question. But no, it would not work. Not even because it's a different processor, which that is part. But say if T Mobile got an unlocked bootloader, it would not work for Sprint. Nor would it necessarily help to know how it happened and use it as a road map to unlock another carrier's bl.
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mkeller96 said:
Rooting will never die unless the manufacturers kill it. It has too much of a following with people that love to root and need to root. So yes no root is a huge deal for me I'm coming from a Nexus 6 where I had multirom and weekly updates. The phone never gets boring when it is unleashed and rootable. I have had the Edge for about a week and I'm already bored/frustrated with it. I'm going to the Sprint store today to try and return it. My Nexus 6 flies compared to the S7 Edge even though its specs are way better. Hardware can only get you so far the software is what makes the phone fly. The stock S7 Edge has so much BS bloatware and unneeded stuff that slows it down significantly. Give me the international one and maybe I would keep it. Also, the Samsung pay is a joke for me because it doesn't support any of my banks or cards. I will be preordering the LG G5 or waiting for the next Nexus.
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I would suggest waiting to see if the bootloader is locked down on the lg g5 before ordering. I was not planning to root my s7e, but I must say I was curious to see what this powerhouse was capable of if unleashed from touchwiz,sadly I will never know.:crying:
Anyone else receive an OTA update this morning from Sprint? Took about 15 minutes to download and install.
I'm now showing software version G935PVPU2APC5.
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Anyone else receive an OTA update this morning from Sprint? Took about 15 minutes to download and install.
I'm now showing software version G935PVPU2APC5.
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I have Ota's stopped, but i haveapb5.
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Root
I have a sneaky suspicion that the Sprint S7 & S7 Edge will end up just like the
ATT Note 5 and S6 Edge/Edge+ phones and will NEVER have root. LOL
I would strongly advice & suggest NOT to get rid of your current rooted phones at least not yet!!!
(unless you buy a different brand which can be rooted)
Have a great day!
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So I've had this thought about this locked bootloader problem. I am not sure if this is a viable solution or whether it would even work. I was thinking that our European brethren has an unlocked bootloader. Would there be a way to Odin their bootloader on our devicesor would the fact that they have a different processor be a problem. Because in theory if we had a Samsung sign Odin file of with an unlocked bootloader we should be able to Odin and have a unlocked bootloader, no? Or is there more to it than that?
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I have the firmware for the Chinese model s7 edge it is the closest match to ours and the firmware will not load in odin. It checks against the model and csc codes so we couldn't even cross flash with t-mobiles firmware. I have the bootloader posted over in t-mobile forums and a few people are poking around to see what can be done. Unfortunately bootloader and hardware hacks are nothing I have ever done before.
Hello friends,
I'm in the same boat as many of you -- I purchased several Note 5's new from Verizon and then learned that they are not readily rootable....which prevents me from using their full functionality. Irritating.
I have a decent amount of experience with software development/reverse engineering/breaking things/making things work...but I've never messed around with phone firmware before. Usually I connect directly to the hardware chips via JTAG or similar to dump/upload the modified images. I don't really want to crack these sealed phones open though... surely there must be a way to dump/image the phone via the data port? I've read that Note 5 for other carriers are rootable, so how does dumping/uploading bins work for them? What is different about Verizon's model? Are they requiring digitally signed bins? Also I've seen a few people mention Knox....if Knox is tripped does it blow a fuse or can it be reset?
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Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
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Nah it doesn't brick the phone! That's just to scare the crap out of people and make them not even want to risk it period!
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If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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Lol.. I was gonna say hmm, what should one do... HmMmm ... How about read around the the Verizon thread?! Because all those questions have already been answered!
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If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of Verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def don't miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i've stuck with Verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, haven't had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who don't want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldn't hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
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I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
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I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
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I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
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Has anyone compared Package Disabler to Debloater?
Yeah, Package Disabler is the way to go (IMO). You don't need a computer as with Debloater. Don't get me wrong, Debloater is great, but it's nice being able to disable apps on the go. Not to mention, Package Disabler allows you to export your lists of disabled apps to an XML file, so you can simply import the list back if you need to (say, after a factory reset). Just my thoughts.
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So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
pbman1953 said:
So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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It's not rooted yet. There is something in the works, but nothing yet. We haven't given up yet.
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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
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no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
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What's a package disabler
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What's a package disabler
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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
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Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
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Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
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there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
TheMadScientist420 said:
there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
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Thank you ill try it out
I soft bricked my Note 5 and then had problems flashing with ODIN. After I was able to flash though, the screen briefly showed an unlocked padlock. Is that typical? Is the bootloader rendered insecure when you upgrade for a brief window?
Hello guys,
I bought an S7 around 2/3 months ago. I'm in the UK meaning that I don't have Samsung Pay and probably wont when it releases (Natwest didn't support the Android Pay launch so they probably won't for the Samsung Pay either so I don't really care if I root.) I'm considering about rooting the device but I have a few questions.
1. What apps and features do i lose access to when the flash counter is triggered?
2. Is there a way to reset the flash counter to get them apps to work again?
3. Is there an app which allows me to change the Ultra Power Saver apps? (I know there was one for the S5 rooted but don't know if it works on the S7 and can't currently try it due to it needing root perms)
4. Would you recommend rooting the device? (I've rooted my Moto G 2nd gen in the past but didn't really use it for all that much though I feel that with an S7 I might be able to do more things by being rooted.)
Thanks in advance
1. The only thing I think you really lose is Samsung Pay (since I rooted yesterday haven't noticed any other major issues)
2. As of right now there is no option to do this, though I know other devices have recieved the ability through triangle away. Sadly this is not currently available.
3. It doesn't currently look like it, but I think they will probably update the app (looked and the app i found was UPSM+ and it costs money so couldn't actually test)
4. I'm happy I did because I can use apps like sixaxis for using my ds4 controller, and I'm trying out viper audio which I've heard is good)
Don't know if this helps or not, I like to know I have the full control of my device, but that's just me maybe.
I always root everything, but this phone almost like a Greek Goddess - beautiful and accommodating. But after about a month I went ahead and rooted it. I am a heavy user of Google chrome and Google music radio stations and the amount of ads they push through their channels is extremely obnoxious. I feel guilty toward Greek Gods now, but I am at peace...
Palisandr said:
I always root everything, but this phone almost like a Greek Goddess - beautiful and accommodating. But after about a month I went ahead and rooted it. I am a heavy user of Google chrome and Google music radio stations and the amount of ads they push through their channels is extremely obnoxious. I feel guilty toward Greek Gods now, but I am at peace...
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Would you suggest I root the phone? I'm very worried that I will not like the consequences that come with it. I've seen and looked up the issues that it has, and I have also seen that they have been fixed. My main focuses are: Battery Life, performance, texting and calling works, I get a good signal from my carrier.
Do these all work like they should? Do they work as if there isn't even root on the phone?
Nobiscis said:
Would you suggest I root the phone? I'm very worried that I will not like the consequences that come with it. I've seen and looked up the issues that it has, and I have also seen that they have been fixed. My main focuses are: Battery Life, performance, texting and calling works, I get a good signal from my carrier.
Do these all work like they should? Do they work as if there isn't even root on the phone?
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Being rooted itself shouldn't affect anything you listed. Now certain apps you install that require root may negatively affect battery life, and possibly performance, but texting, calling, and signal shouldn't change. Rooting essentially gives you administrator privileges like on a Windows PC, what you do from there is what will affect you the most.
Palisandr said:
I always root everything, but this phone almost like a Greek Goddess - beautiful and accommodating. But after about a month I went ahead and rooted it. I am a heavy user of Google chrome and Google music radio stations and the amount of ads they push through their channels is extremely obnoxious. I feel guilty toward Greek Gods now, but I am at peace...
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Being rooted itself shouldn't affect anything you listed. Now certain apps you install that require root may negatively affect battery life, and possibly performance, but texting, calling, and signal shouldn't change. Rooting essentially gives you administrator privileges like on a Windows PC, what you do from there is what will affect you the most.
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I know, but there have been several user saying that they are having the issues I have stated.
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I know, but there have been several user saying that they are having the issues I have stated.
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Well are you using the US variant? There are some problems with the engboot but a lot of users are saying that they are resolved with the fixes they provide. A lot of people are sticking with it because they still feel the pros outweigh the cons. Something to think about if you, yourself, would prefer root over stock.
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Well are you using the US variant? There are some problems with the engboot but a lot of users are saying that they are resolved with the fixes they provide. A lot of people are sticking with it because they still feel the pros outweigh the cons. Something to think about if you, yourself, would prefer root over stock.
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I am on the US variant. One of the main reasons I'd be rooting is for the game hacks I can get, so those are the biggest pros for me
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I am on the US variant. One of the main reasons I'd be rooting is for the game hacks I can get, so those are the biggest pros for me
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In that case, as long as you won't miss Samsung Pay then go for it. You can always flash back to stock if you aren't happy with it. Give it a week and see if you get used to it. If not, then there is a thread here that explains how to flash back to stock completely.
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In that case, as long as you won't miss Samsung Pay then go for it. You can always flash back to stock if you aren't happy with it. Give it a week and see if you get used to it. If not, then there is a thread here that explains how to flash back to stock completely.
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Is there a way I can flash a backup?
Sorry, noob questions
Nobiscis said:
Is there a way I can flash a backup?
Sorry, noob questions
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if you root and want to restore later on. I Recommend flashing a recovery such as TWRP and create a backup via TWRP. once that's done, bootup device and install SuperSU. Once that's done, open app and let it flash what it need a to flash via TWRP. there should be threads here in XDA for your device. Backups can only be done with a recovery. If this is your first time. READ THE PROCEDURES CAREFULLY. No one is to blame but your self if you screw up your device. Research before acting
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Nobiscis said:
Is there a way I can flash a backup?
Sorry, noob questions
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Of course, look into FlashFire, it should be able to backup and flash.
You will most likely forfeit your remaining manufacturers warranty.
I run the non-rooted version of the 935f exynos S7e and have superb battery life unlike some that rooted it.
Unless you are particularly adverse to TW or need to play constantly with icons I wouldn't bother. Samsungs stock browser is also very fast.
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You will most likely forfeit your remaining manufacturers warranty.
I run the non-rooted version of the 935f exynos S7e and have superb battery life unlike some that rooted it.
Unless you are particularly adverse to TW or need to play constantly with icons I wouldn't bother. Samsungs stock browser is also very fast.
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I don't really care that much about the warranty really, I've owned quite alot of devices in the past and haven't needed to use the warranty's for any of them. My device used to have really good battery life but it just feels that these days the life has gone down quite significantly.
I do like the customization which root permissions gives. I guess I might have to wait until Samsung Pay comes out to see if my bank (Natwest) supports the launch or not. I only want to root for the UPSM app really since most of the root battery saver apps don't work from my past experiences.
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I know, but there have been several user saying that they are having the issues I have stated.
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I did not notice any adverse effects yet, but I only installed one program requiring root - Adaway. I am sure you know, but by rooting the phone you void your warranty, trip Knox and will not be able to use Samsung and Android pay.
Hi all i own a Tab s 8.4 LTE for a good year or so i did not trip Knox due to warranty and stuff.. But a month or so ago i found out about Viper4Audio so me flashing Twrp to install viper4audio tripped knox, yeah i know i could have not tripped knox.. if i installed viper4audio apk but the dam thing wouldnt work until i flashed it. Anyway once i heard viper audio wow im blown away now when ever i listen to the S8+ the audio does not sound as good as the tab s. So im wondering is it worth rooting ? the ones who have rooted do you regret rooting ? or shall i wait will root ever come for the S8+ EXYNOS With out tripping knox or am i dreaming for that ?
There will never be a way to root without tripping Knox I'm afraid.
You just have to decide if it's worth it for YOU.
You will lose warranty. You will lose things like Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, other banking apps, though sometimes this can be worked around.
I owned the S7E before owning the S8+, and it was the first time I have ever owned a phone that I didn't root it. It's a hard choice, but warranty is more important for me, along with Samsung Pay, Samsung health etc.
Just root. Life is bet with root.
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I chose to not root my S7 edge, and the only thing that bothers me is video ads on youtube. otherwise I can live just fine without it. Custom roms tend to be too unstable for me, anyway. I won't root my S8+, assuming it ever comes out for the SD variant (bought it for dolphin, and I got it from Samsung for $524).
No. Not until we find a way to not trip knox.
I don't recommend you to root your phone you will loose Samsung pay feature for good plus your warranty. I can tell you yes it's a bit boring without having the ability to modify your phone but you can live without it. I think the stock rom is quite good and satisfies my needs . So again don't do it
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No root for me. Root is history for me since two years ago.
Don't see the needs of it already. Maybe they is still one or two nice apps that need root. For the sack of that one or two apps really not worth to root and trip Knox.
I root for years any single device I have but yesterday I bought also a S8+ and I think this will be the first time not to root. So no root - vote from me
Same rooted my s7 edge just to play and get more out of it. I will leave my new s8+ Alone. Battery is great would love the customizations with root but its good enough as it is. Only thing i really miss is viperaudio. Anyone know of a way this can be installed without tripping knox??
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
I'm joining the growing choir of new S8 Plus users who have decided to leave rooting behind them. It was fun and extremely useful for me up until this S8 Plus. My Note 5 will be the last device I root. It's just not worth the hassle any longer. Lately rooting has become too much of a chore on this platform for me, personally. I've kept Samsung as my daily driver for years because one of the reasons was that traditionally it was much easier to root compared to other devices. This was especially true when I was with Sprint as they never locked down their phones like Verizon and AT&T did.
At this moment, as far as rooting is concerned, I have the same feeling I did when I finally said, "Enough!" when I was jailbreaking my iPhones. Eventually I grew tired of the cat and mouse game between devs and the OEM. This feels the same and I think it's time to say goodbye to rooting flagships for me.
Now I feel that the combined hardware and software development on this phone has matured enough that I'm okay rolling clean and stock from now on.
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First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
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Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
100% definitely do NOT ROOT.
Matt
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
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I have youtube red, no ads anyway, so I'm not sure.
I have been rooting since the beginning of Android, every phone I've had. I stopped using Samsung in 2013 and went to LG, then to Google (Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL), and now back to Samsung. I was honestly a little disappointed with the Pixel and how difficult it was to flash because of the dual partitions. I am in the US, and the US S8 was a no go, as I don't appreciate a phone that I buy outright being locked down. I ended up getting the SM-G955F, and rooted it the first day I had it. It was so simple, and so worth it. I feel like its 2013 again with how easy this thing is to modify. I have Viper installed, and customized to my liking, and my ROM is bloat free.
I have a Canadian S8 Plus and I've rooted all my Androids since the first Motorola. Like others I don't think at this moment rooting would bring me anything really exciting. I've installed Adhell 2 and got rid of the ads and backed up everything with the pc smart switch. I'm missing the volume warning disable mod because I found it annoying but even that one is not that bad if I don't restart the phone. Starting with S6 the best ROMs were always stock based and that became more and more evident lately so until something really new is coming up I'm going to stay unrooted. I'm with Bell and there are only 2 apps which I would not want them so basically no bloat. My 2c.
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
Did you try Helium? The paid version has many features but it will only backup some apps vs Titanium. Because of missing root it will not be able to backup apps that have "backup disallowed" enabled.
EMJI79 said:
You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
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But idf you root arent there supposed to be issue with it when it comes to the bootloader?