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[size=+1]Introduction[/size]
Today I'll be reviewing the Rhinoshield Crash Guard bumper case and the Rhinoshield Screen Protector. I've never used a Rhinoshield product before now but I've always heard positive things about their range. I've been using these products for two weeks. I've been supplied these products for free in return for my review.
[size=+1]Crash Guard[/size]
The packaging for this product is quite good, it features bold colours and a quality card box, it looks and feels very nice. There's a slim vertical window on the box that reveals one edge of the case inside.
This case is a smooth TPU-like rubber that wraps only around the edges of the phone (open front and open back). It's a bit more slippery in the hand than I'd like but not so much that I'm dropping the phone. The case is raised up on both the front and the back, meaning that when you place it on a surface (either face up or face down) only the case is touching that surface, the actual phone doesn't make contact at all. This provides a good level of protection from scratches from rough surfaces. All in all, it feels ok in the hand. The edges on this case aren't rounded/curved, they're quite hard and angular, making it uncomfortable to hold, especially at the rear where you naturally rest your fingers.
Installing the case is relatively easy but it does take a decent amount of force to get the last corner or two snapped on completely. With all the hype about this device bending relatively easily, I must admit that the force I was applying to get the case on worried me. Anyway, the corners fit quite tightly once you have it on. The sides of the case are pretty floppy, though, you can very easily pull the side of the case away from the phone about 10mm. It might be because of this fact that the power and volume buttons on the right side of the phone require significantly more force to push than without a case installed. Using those buttons is cumbersome and is a downfall of this case. In saying this, the level of protection that's provided might be worth the fussing caused by the buttons.
I'm not going to deliberately drop my device but my assumption is that it will offer a good amount of protection. Tapping the phone against a hard surface with a good amount of force, you can feel the impact vibrate and disperse through the case. The Rhinoshield website claims that this case is rated to protect from at least an 11 foot (3.35 metre) drop. Their convincing product test videos can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=AKC213nMRN4
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=7Qk23X9eVrU
There are plenty of other independent test videos on YouTube that support the 11 foot drop protection claim.
At first I was going to write a fairly negative review because the buttons are so difficult to push. I don't know whether the case has softened up a little since first installing it or whether I've gotten used to the buttons, but they don't seem to bother me as much anymore. I've used other cases that are far easier to install/remove but actually fit to the device much better and don't make the buttons difficult at all to use. All in all though, I've decided to keep this case on my phone because I believe the protection it offers is worth the negative aspects about this case.
Pros:
Excellent scratch protection via the case being raised away from the phone.
Sturdy design and it feels like it offers good drop protection.
Nice matte colour and finish.
Cons:
Buttons are difficult to press with this case installed.
Floppy/loose sides.
Uncomfortable to hold.
Please scroll to post #3 for images.
[size=+1]Screen Protector[/size]
Like the Crash Guard, the packaging for this screen protector is very good. It comes in the same bold colour scheme and quality card box. In the package you receive one micro-fiber cloth, two fine dust/fluff removal stickers, one hard squeegee, one screen protector, and one protector for the back of the phone.
The installation process is pretty easy. The first step is to clean the screen well with the micro-fiber cloth, then you use one of the stickers to dab all over the screen in order to remove any trace of foreign material before applying the protector. Applying the protector is straight-forward, you line it up, let it "grab" at one end and slowly allow the protector to roll up the screen, clinging as it goes. You can then use the hard squeegee to flatten/push out any bubbles that may have appeared during the installation. All up the whole process only took me a few minutes and I had the the protector applied virtually perfectly on the first try. This does require a pretty steady hand and a good eye though.
The protector feels very good once on the phone. I'm pretty sure it is of a plastic resin construction but it certainly has a glass-like feel to it. It's also crystal clear and doesn't hamper touch response at all. There are cutouts for each speaker, one for the front camera, and (like all good screen protectors for this phone) a small cutout (coming off the top speaker cutout) for the proximity sensor. It fits to the screen perfectly and causes no issues with the Rhinoshield Crash Guard case or my other Spigen case. The oleophobic coating doesn't do much to prevent it becoming dirty from fingerprints unfortunately, it gets just as dirty and just as quickly as the digitizer does without a protector applied.
I'm not about to drop a weighted bearing on my phone to test the strength of this protector but you can find some decent product test videos (produced by Rhinoshield) here.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=wLkKeUY3SOY
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=_-FfrLnJe5U
Pros:
Excellent protection.
Feels very nice.
Crystal clear.
Easy to install.
Cons:
Gets dirty easily.
Please scroll to post #3 for images.
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As someone that has had this bumper on a 6P for a year, the buttons get softer over time.
Also, I have no issues removing it. If you follow their instructions about pulling one corner away from the phone, and pushing the corner up with your fingers and the rim of the case down with your thumbs, its pretty easy. I start with the lower corner away from the button side.
I've had the bumper on and off more times than I can recall and no damage to the phone.
Been using a Rhinoshield since release for the 6P, best case I've ever owned hands down!
I am really contemplating getting one of these but I am such a case whore it's ridiculous. I have a Gold 6P right now, what colour do you guys recommend for anyone that owns the Gold one?
Jammol said:
I am really contemplating getting one of these but I am such a case whore it's ridiculous. I have a Gold 6P right now, what colour do you guys recommend for anyone that owns the Gold one?
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Clear or Golden! But don't think they make them
Wonderful case very comfortable and the new style feels great.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
Solutions Etcetera said:
As someone that has had this bumper on a 6P for a year, the buttons get softer over time.
Also, I have no issues removing it. If you follow their instructions about pulling one corner away from the phone, and pushing the corner up with your fingers and the rim of the case down with your thumbs, its pretty easy. I start with the lower corner away from the button side.
I've had the bumper on and off more times than I can recall and no damage to the phone.
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Thanks for the feedback. Turns out I was just going about it wrong. It is actually quite easy to remove as you suggest so I've edited those sections out of the review.
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Thanks for the feedback.
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My pleasure. Other than the R/R comment, I thought your review was both accurate and comprehensive.
When I first got mine, pressing power twice with my left index finger to trigger the camera was quite difficult (usually had to use my right thumb). Now, it is very easy. Buttons are still firm but very positive (you can feel the click).
BTW, my preferred method for installing is to put the side with the buttons in first; insuring it is fully seated. Then pop in the top left corner, followed by the bottom left.
With all the cases I have tried over the years with various different phones, I find these products remarkable. Fit and finish is as good as I have seen, and protection is Otterbox Defender like, without all the bulk.
If you're still on the fence, here's a couple more vids:
https://youtu.be/9DvhljsZY88
https://youtu.be/KA--KExRNpY
galaxys said:
Clear or Golden! But don't think they make them
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Looked into it and they don't. Black, blue, red, and white are the only colors I've seen for it. Really.... No other colors!!! Kind of lame.
They videos looks amazing. Too bad it is so ugly. lol.
Looks and Feels great, just got mine today.
I prefer this case to my spigen ultra hybrid crystal clear case, which gets greasy and smudgy after a while. It gives a good grip on the sides without having to actually touch the phone. Very good value for money.
tropical cactus said:
I prefer this case to my spigen ultra hybrid crystal clear case, which gets greasy and smudgy after a while. It gives a good grip on the sides without having to actually touch the phone. Very good value for money.
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Same here, just got mine and switched from Spigen Ultra Hybrid
Which one adds more bulk ? Spigen tough armor or Crash Guard
gabeauche said:
Which one adds more bulk ? Spigen tough armor or Crash Guard
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The Rhino Shield adds a little more bulk.
I have this case, but since it doesn't offer much protection for the back, I use the SupCase most of the time.
Related
Hey, pretty much first topic in here.
I need a good screen protector, since the one that came with the otterbox commuter case I bought is
1 slightly too small
2 when I tried to apply it either the top or bottom wouldn't fit nicely. That is if I applied it aligned to the top of the screen, it wouldn't stick there and vice verse for the bottom.
My criteria basically are (and I know there most likely is no perfect product)
Should fit the entire screen, or at least be "invisible" enough that you don't notice them at first glance.
Somewhat scratch-proof, oleophobic would be a nice cherry on top.
Should feel more or less like the unprotected screen, as in glide easily, no stickiness.
also ofc should work just like the screen, with no input problems or anything.
Anyone know any screenprotectors that fulfill some or all of these criteria? are the cheap ebay ones any good?
I have een an avid brando screen protector fan. They are in China but deliver worldwide.
Try this one:
http://shop.brando.com/bw-ultraclear-pda-s-p-htc-desire-hd-_p04991c1244d039.html
The HTC ones work well for me.
I'm not satisfied with the Zagg Invisible Shield.
Now I bought the Xtreme GUARD screen protector:
h t t p ://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230559214306
The Xtreme GUARD screen protector for Ihone 4 was brilliant.
I use Martin Fields and think it's the best screen protector I've used "so far". My previous screen protectors include ZAGG, some random ebay ones and the ones come with case-mate and otterbox cases.
Installation is super easy (compared to the pain and wait of ZAGG's) as well!
I prefer the original htc screen protectors. Cheap ,good quality.
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I like the vikuiti screen protectors, I got a three pack for my HD2 and after I messed up the first with air bubbles the second lasted a whole 10 months and didn't need replacing, the screen still looked liked new. Comparing to the htc it lasted 2 weeks and was full of scratches and finger marks, so Ill be getting the vikuiti for the dhd.
KamikaZeeFu said:
Hey, pretty much first topic in here.
I need a good screen protector, since the one that came with the otterbox commuter case I bought is
1 slightly too small
2 when I tried to apply it either the top or bottom wouldn't fit nicely. That is if I applied it aligned to the top of the screen, it wouldn't stick there and vice verse for the bottom.
My criteria basically are (and I know there most likely is no perfect product)
Should fit the entire screen, or at least be "invisible" enough that you don't notice them at first glance.
Somewhat scratch-proof, oleophobic would be a nice cherry on top.
Should feel more or less like the unprotected screen, as in glide easily, no stickiness.
also ofc should work just like the screen, with no input problems or anything.
Anyone know any screenprotectors that fulfill some or all of these criteria? are the cheap ebay ones any good?
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I think your best bet is the HTC's generic protector. It's a perfect cut (mind the gaps between the screen and the plastic "lip"), mine is since early November and it's without scratches. For oleophobic part... some say it gets greasy very easyly, but it's either they have extereamly greasy fingers, or mine are extreamly dry . The protector is made of somewhat hard plastic, so it feels more or less like the unprotected screen. No orange skin effect or the grippy feeling of Invisible Shield. And I didn't notice any reduction or inacuracy in sensitivity of the screen. Maybe slightly less sensitive since before I had mine on, I could "touch" the screen without actually touching it and now it works the way it's supposed to .
Also there is one big advantage of this one - the thickness of the protector is equal to the height of the "lip" around the screen, so with the protector applied you no longer will get your finger "gripped" when you slide them off the screen.
The only downside (IMO) is that HTC made a production design error with the cutting of the protector. There are always two small bubbles in the top left corner where the foil protecting the sticky side is grabbed to be removed prior to the installation.
Yep HTC's original is the best fit
Best for value is to get the HTC Desire HD Screen Protector SP P430 - Twin Pack
I like the EXiM UltraClear. displayschutzfolien.com
I have the HTC original one! great quality, you can't see its there! Be carefull when sticking it one. Ask if you can do it in your uncle's clean room!
Yeah just make sure every microscopic bit of dust is off. I've actually found using a small amount of sunglass lense cleaner on the screen and wiping it off with a microfibre cloth does the trick.
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I don't feel it's necessary to pay more than just a few dollars for a good quality screen protector. Over the years I've found the Hh ScreenGuard brand of screen protectors in the yellow packaging on dealextreme.com to be of very good quality. They are thin and flexible which means so long as you put them on with no dust or finger prints they last forever and they stick down with no bubbles and look near invisible. They are usually around 2 bucks. At the present time however dealextreme had no listings for that brand for the Desire HD.
I've had these bad crappy generic ones both from ebay and from dealextreme.com for different phone models (including desire HD). They always come in no packaging/branding and with the same blue on one side red on the other side tabs. They are thicker, less flexible and are next to impossible to get on without bubbling and start to peel off before long. Here's what I'm talking about... The ads often look like this:
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The product looks like this:
Now recently I've found this brand (CALANS) to be of descent quality. In fact since I first put mine upside down first time and then kept washing it and reapllying it with dust underneath it I ended up washing it and re-applying it no less than half a dozen times and when I was finally happy with it there was still no damage or bubbles from this screen protector! Since getting my replacement Desire HD I put on a new one of these protectors and got it first time perfect with no bubbles. The protector came with a case but I asked the ebay seller to sell me more separately so he made a new listing. They are $1 each and free shipping. Here's the listing: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270694242912. Here's what they actually look like:
Here's some tips I've leant for putting on the screen protectors: First thing is throw away usless cloth that looks like this:
That tiny unhemmed cloth will only fray at the edges and leave lint on your screen as you wipe. You are better off using your cotton t-shirt and breath or a slightly damp soft cotton or microfibre, lint free cloth. Make sure before you remove any of the outside layers you first place the protector over the screen to see how it fits. there are always some gaps and in the case of the Desire HD one way is up, one way is down as there are smaller corners at the top of the screen and bigger ones at the bottom. Place phone on a towl or cloth to keep stable and not damage camera. When you are totally sure you have the screen clean and no dust then peel only a small section of the 1st layer back. Start sticking down protector and pushing out air bubbles as you peel away more of the 1st layer. Once it's all down with no bubbles and the 1st layer is off take of the 2nd layer. If you find there is dust or you messed it up use the corner of a protective layer to carefully wedge under the protector (without damaging the screen protector) and lift up the protector. Remove the protector, clean screen and wash protector with soapy water and rinse. Shake protector. Place protector on screen while still slightly wet pushing out as much air and water as possible. Usually there will be water bubbles under the screen that will gradually dry up over 1.5 to 2 days with this method and in the end leave a flawless finish with no bubbles. I have used my phone during the drying process with no problems.
**Keep in mind phones these days often have a water sensor (a piece of paper that changes colour to moisture). If something goes wrong using the water method and you get the inside of your phone wet this could easily void your warranty**
Review:
The HTC Desire HD is a great phone in every way except for the only Achilles' heel, also known as the battery cover. That piece of flimsy plastic that HTC calls a cover is known to break easily, slide off accidentally, not of the same material to that lovely metal body.
Ive always used cases for my HTC Desire HD to cover that battery cover, having tried about 5 different types, I have to conclude that I disliked the TPU because of the flex on the sides which could potentially trap dust and other crap that might be the pocket (the Momax TPU case has been the best so far that I have used), I had a look at a couple of the snap on cases, most of the ones on Ebay are cheap and ****, I am the sort of careful user, never dropped my phones, I dont run about in the rain or take my phone on hikes but an aesthetic freak.
I recently purchased the Case-Mate Barely There HTC Desire HD case for a fair bit of money, I have to admit, its not the cheapest case, but for those who want the quality feel without feeling up that battery cover, this is the case for you. The overall quality is sublime, the plastic mold edges are smooth without any imperfections, coating over the case is of excellent, even and thick to feel like a quality product. The fit the good, as it was design specifically for the HTC Desire HD, good clearance of the volume buttons as well as for the headphone jack. Overall, Ill highly recommend this product to all that is keen for that high quality feel of a snap on case...I didnt manage to find any decent photos to show the product in detail before purchase so for it, Ill say I was lucky, so for those that may be interested, Ill let the photos do the justice.
Drop Test:
It has been a few months since I have got my own Case-Mate - Barely There, whilst the other day at McDonalds, I accidentally knocked my HTC Desire HD from the table onto the ground. The fall was more than 1 metres and onto some relatively harsh and hard surface aka concrete tiles.
At first I thought I screwed up big time. As I picked it up, I realised the phone was still switched on, luckily it fell back first so there were no scratches or imperfections to the front of the HTC, I suspect this might be due to the camera shaped mound that enforced a flat surface for the fall. The case had several scratches around all corners of the case, with several scratches and dot shaped imperfections on the base of the case. The scratches inflicted due to this drop can only be best described as if someone had key'ed your car sort of scratches.
After further analysis, the is no fault with the phone, everything works as before but the case did scratch, barely anything as I had considered a much more harsh damage. There was no structural damage to the case only relative aesthetics. The case does live up as a protection to our HTCs. Refer to the photos once again and thanks for reading.
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The small dots are not dust particles but very small dents and scratches
Relative scratches due to intial contact of the fall, you can barely see the black plastic of the base material, indicates a decent level of paint.
Another imperfection on the top right corner of the case, very similar to the photo as above.
Nice summary, I have one too, though I'm now using the Case Mate Tough...
I don't know just how much you use the GPS, but do check out your reception with & without the case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998102&highlight=barely+there
fyi, the GPS antenna is in the flash module.
There are another couple of threads here on this issue, specifically with the silver finish case - the good news is that Case-Mate are responding responsibly to consumers' complaints.
I have the barely there case n bought it when I got my DHD n never looked back. True it was a fair bit o money but I have to say it has a great feel to it n suites all my needs that a case can do. Highly recommended.
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Got this case today due to this thread. Absolutely love it. Cheers
I have the case and I love it, went through some tough times (falling out of my pocket in a club, into a puddle of beer and being stepped on after that) and the phone is fine! One thing I have noticed. The corners of my phone are rubbed off as if the fit isnt perfect and some of the paint has come off!
It looks really elegant.
I´ve used this case with my HD2. A big problem was, to remove it when you have to exchange the sd card or the battery. It has got scratches at the edges. Have you tried this...think about flashing... Also i fear, that the battery cover can break, when the case has to be removed...What is your experience?
Neo XL said:
It looks really elegant.
I´ve used this case with my HD2. A big problem was, to remove it when you have to exchange the sd card or the battery. It has got scratches at the edges. Have you tried this...think about flashing... Also i fear, that the battery cover can break, when the case has to be removed...What is your experience?
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Typically I am not one who takes my case off, I havent done so since I got the case about 2 weeks now, so basically I dont have any issues. With regards to the battery cover, the actual case is very flexible so flex the case rather than the phone, other than that, I dont think that it will break the battery cover, as I mentioned, I hate the DHD battery cover.
Have been using this case since I got the phone over 6 months ago. Would never buy anything else, does it's job very well and most importantly it is very discrete, people are often shocked when they look at my phone to discover it actually has a case on.
I've had a barely there case on my Desire and now on my Desire HD. I've tried a lot of cases and you CANNOT get better than this case. It makes the phone feel so much better and keeps my antenna case firmly locked on
Coupled with a pouch it is fantastic and still fits in charges, car docks, etc.
This case looks very nice. I like the metallic look.
Grant Barker said:
This case looks very nice. I like the metallic look.
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Just for you to know, its actuall of very high quality, feels very thick layer yet even. Whilst the actual case itself is not metal the actual coating consists an actual harder clear layer. Ive absolutely used it intensely for a few weeks now, just cleaned it, I cannot find any obvious scratch marks. I am very impressed. It does smudge a little with any oily or grubby fingers but what is gloss and doesnt?
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Just for you to know, its actuall of very high quality, feels very thick layer yet even. Whilst the actual case itself is not metal the actual coating consists an actual harder clear layer. Ive absolutely used it intensely for a few weeks now, just cleaned it, I cannot find any obvious scratch marks. I am very impressed. It does smudge a little with any oily or grubby fingers but what is gloss and doesnt?
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can you rate the protection its providing to your desire hd?
do you pair it with a pouch?
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can you rate the protection its providing to your desire hd?
do you pair it with a pouch?
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I used to have a pouch for my HTC Desire, similar to that of the Nexus One. But the hassle was the fact that both your hands would be occupied at anyone time in the operating of the phone, having to take it out and putting it back. Yes, that in fact offered the best possible protection because only the bottom of the phone where the USB connection side of the phone was exposed.
The HTC Desire HD is already as big as phones will get in my opinion, so idealistically lets not make something BIG any BIGGER than it has to be, so I ditched the plans for pouches and went for basically slim and/or TPU cases, essentially becoming an integral part of the phone, also as I mentioned before to cover that hideous battery sim/SD/battery covers.
With the protection of the existing case, I also have it paired with a good matte screen protector, so as the photos in my original post will show, very little of the actual phone is exposed, once again where the USB connection side of the phone was exposed but this cannot be avoided.
So I mean, I guess an out of 10 Ill say a good 8~8.5? though keep in mind I am a bloody mean **** when it comes to things like this...so yea. =D
I have the matt black version of this case and love it.....
Prior to buying the CM Barely there i had the Otterbox Commuter case which was just made the phone much too big for my liking! As well as making it too big it also made the volume rocker and power button extremely difficult to operate. The CM barely there though, the buttons are all easy to get to and use, and as the name suggests, hardly adds anything to the size of the phone. Granted it may not be protective enough for those that are rough on they're phones, but if your like me and take care of stuff anyway then it will be just the ticket for protecting it from scratches and general knocks.
I have the silver mirror version of this case (same as op) and while very nice and sleek, it completely blocks GPS signal. No big issue for me since i have a dedicated unit in the car for navigation but still something to consider. i dont think this is an issue with other colors of this case though, although i love the silver finish too much to switch it for a different one.
As for the person saying the edges on their phone were scratched.. I havent noticed any wear and tear on my edges and I consistently remove the case for sim changes and battery pulls on bad flashes. Keeping index finger on top edge of the phone and thumb on the bottom edge, prying the edge of the case off from the top left by pulling it away (case seems slightly bendable) and lifting the phone out seems to be the most gentle way to remove it.
I had the Pdair luxury silicone case. It was a good case I felt that it protected my phone really well. The thing was that it was a real pain to get the phone in and out of my pocket. I bought the barely there case about two weeks ago and I'm very happy with it. this one is highly recommended...unless you play fetch with your dog with your HD
Just noticed this review, thanks OP!
I'd like to add my two cents, I have the matte black version of the barely there as well and unfortunately I was not so pleased with the fit. Luckily as I have the matte black version I was able to trim it down to suit my needs. The areas that needed trimming were around the volume keys, I cut off the bar that ran across the top/face of the keys. Now I can actually adjust the volume without having to cram my finger in the slot. Also I noticed pressing the power button at the top was a little difficult as well so I trimmed the entire top piece running behind the power button and now both the volume and power buttons can be pressed with ease but don't get pressed accidentally. After cutting I buffed it down with some fine grit SP and it still looks stock. I used the included barely there screen protector which already has a few nicks and scratches but overall has done the job of protecting my precious DHD. One more mention, the OP said she doesn't like getting dirt behind the case, this case lets in a bunch of dust and dirt, I take the case off maybe once a week and just clean off the back of the phone, but because the case has a bit of space between the case and the phone, nothing gets scratched. Great case overall as everyone else states, just needed a bit of adjusting. I attached a pic so you can see my handy work on the case.
I have one of these cases also,Very happy with it.
this case really has a quality feel, and i'm quite pleased i spent the money on it. couple of complaints though: the volume button is harder to use when the case is on, and the case is difficult to take off.
Take mine off when i place it im my charging dock at night,Forgot to put in on the other morning....DHD felt naked without it.........lol
Hi guys I just want to share my experience with this case, first of all it's brilliant. Surprisingly light and no where near bulky, the weight doesn't seem to bother me as if it feels like a normal tablet even when I carry it around because this tablet is light, so is the case. Unfortunately I don't have a video to demonstrate it but I plan on doing so in the future till I get a camcorder. For $90 on Amazon this case is a must if you bring your tablet out with you because I do, I have the LTE version and this case is compatible with both 800 and the 805. I feel that this tablet is so light naked and even if you get other cases and if it falls, the protection is just sub par and that will still risk it's safety. I recommend this case to secure your investment on such a great device. The feel is really good and smooth, the back feels great and grippy, not slippery at all. I love the shield stand that helps protect the tablet too and acts as a stand with 4 different angles to position it from. For the record it's so easy to install the case, just follow the guide, it's just light and not tedious at all to put it on and removing it. The only issue I have with this case is that on the upper left corner on the tab on landscape orientation it's creeky, I'm not sure if it's just this unit case or if I didn't install it right but I have removed it for more than 3 times then put it back in to secure it. And over time if you're laying down and holding the tablet, the sides can wear you off ofcourse but not in a major way but that's it. The power button and the volume rocker have a incredible feel and response, actually better than the device naked itself, the ports aren't a drag, charging while using it isn't a issue, the flaps can be a challenge at first to get used to but once you get a hang of sticking in the charging port then you're good to go. I haven't dropped my tablet yet ever, I hope I won't so I can't tell you how effective this is but hey it's a otterbox defender case, it should be the best out there for defense. I had a clear screen protector prior to getting this case, knowing this has a built in screen protector, I didn't remove my original one and tried it on and I didn't like the response, it felt delayed a bit and wasn't that comfortable so I removed it and it's perfect. Overall I love this case, totally worth it and is the only viable case for me, if you bring your tablet out and use it, I suggest you go for this, and also it looks fantastic. People won't recognize this as a tablet or what cause of the case, unless they know this case. A thin premium tablet deserves this case and needs it, I feel like if I drop this naked or with a case with mediocre protection this tablet will break due to its thin form factor. Unfortunately I don't have any picture of the case on my device because I have no phone or camera so I only have pictures of the case itself alone. I haven't seen anyone talk about this case nor post any video regarding it so I hope this helps anyone out there that wants to decide on getting a case and gain some insight. If you have any more questions please feel free to ask and share your experience if you too have this case. I have forgot to mention that also this isn't waterproof, but dust resistant and the case protects itself from scratches but haven't tested scratching at all as I don't want to
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Ive had a griffin survivor case on my Ipad mini 2 and accidently dropped from the top of my locker because something got stuck and it fell all the way down to the floor. Glad there is a otterbox case for the tab s. Watching movies on this hurts my hands as the edges are really thing. Had my tab s in july and only dropped it on my blanket on the floor. But defender cases are a must need for me but I only use this tablet at home or when going to a friends house.
looks good mate, just a quick question can you still attach the Bluetooth keyboard with it?
and where did you buy it?
I'm not sure but most likely you can't attach one, you're gonna have to remove the case but it also depends. Since it's a Bluetooth keyboard correct me if I'm wrong, the Bluetooth range alone should suffice unless the keyboard needs to attach itself to the tablet. It was a gift from my girlfriend, she bought it from Amazon online.
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Has anyone tried removing the Otterbox screen protector and using a screen protector applied directly to the tablet such as iSmooth or amFilm? I did that with my S4 and like it much better.
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Has anyone tried removing the Otterbox screen protector and using a screen protector applied directly to the tablet such as iSmooth or amFilm? I did that with my S4 and like it much better.
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Since Samsung has sensitive touch(where you can increase touch sensitivity) the otter box protector should be fine with a bit more protection.
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@jimchagaers I took mine off soon as I bought it. Lol!
I wouldn't recommend removing the built in screen protector and what I've heard with others that have done so, it kinda dented the surface of the screen to the case which isn't good and honestly for me it's so much better with it. I don't feel any difficulty using, it's actually better with the built in screen protector. It doesn't feel less sensitive as I've removed mine several times with it so I know.
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Glad I found this thread. It was mention in an earlier post about denting the screen. I'm not certain the built in screen protector is what dented someones screen but I do believe the kick-stand inside the top cover could easily ruin the screen if it ever got pressed inward. I hadn't planned on doing this until this was mention but I decided to remove the kick-stand. It pulls out easily. I then used a dremel to file down all the remaining clips. Using the cover as a kick-stand is a great idea but not at the expense of the screen. Especially when the cover is superpose to protect the tablet and does the opposite. In the past I had a laptop screen marred by the keyboard when the two were pressed together. I now keep a pad between them when traveling.
I went to Amazon and read through some of the negative comments about this Otterbox. It was mention more than once that the built-in screen protector had some type of oily substance that ruined folks amoled screen. I noticed this oily look when the screen was off. Couldn't see it while working on the tablet so didn't think much about it until I read the reviews. They called it a "rainbow effect."
I removed the built-in screen protector and used amFilm Screen Protector I found on Amazon. Totally invisible if applied correctly and a nice feel. I have used iSmooth in the past on my S4 that I really like but they did not have it for the Tab S.
Not glamorous but more practical.
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Glad I found this thread. It was mention in an earlier post about denting the screen. I'm not certain the built in screen protector is what dented someones screen but I do believe the kick-stand inside the top cover could easily ruin the screen if it ever got pressed inward. I hadn't planned on doing this until this was mention but I decided to remove the kick-stand. It pulls out easily. I then used a dremel to file down all the remaining clips. Using the cover as a kick-stand is a great idea but not at the expense of the screen. Especially when the cover is superpose to protect the tablet and does the opposite. In the past I had a laptop screen marred by the keyboard when the two were pressed together. I now keep a pad between them when traveling.
I went to Amazon and read through some of the negative comments about this Otterbox. It was mention more than once that the built-in screen protector had some type of oily substance that ruined folks amoled screen. I noticed this oily look when the screen was off. Couldn't see it while working on the tablet so didn't think much about it until I read the reviews. They called it a "rainbow effect."
I removed the built-in screen protector and used amFilm Screen Protector I found on Amazon. Totally invisible if applied correctly and a nice feel. I have used iSmooth in the past on my S4 that I really like but they did not have it for the Tab S.
Not glamorous but more practical.
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That's a interesting finding, I haven't noticed anything wrong with my case and my tablet at all, I have removed it many times and put it back on. I don't know how the kickstand can dent your tablet if pressed inwards because first of all its a hard Shell so it wouldn't really dent unless something really heavy bumps into it. As for the built in screen protector, I haven't noticed an oily look when the screen is off, it could be just the screen protector but it doesn't affect the tablets amoled screen literally when you remove the case. I like the built in screen protector and it feels good on the tablet.
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Also put one of these on my Tab S.
Also ripped out that crappy built-in screen protector -- the Newton ring look was completely ruining the display. Put a decent screen protector back on it and it's fine.
So far so good...
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Also put one of these on my Tab S.
Also ripped out that crappy built-in screen protector -- the Newton ring look was completely ruining the display. Put a decent screen protector back on it and it's fine.
So far so good...
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When you ripped out the built-in screen protector how did you get rid of the sticky glue that holds it in. I got the case but my tab is in the mail and I want to get this ready to go.
Thanks
Never mind, I got a product called GooBeGone and it worked great. Now is USPS would just deliver the tab.
Doh. Sorry I was out of the country and couldn't get internet access.
As for me... when I pulled off the built-in screen protector, the glue got left behind, like you said.
But I was able to just scrape up a corner of the glue and rip it all off in one long strip. Goo Gone would have worked well too as you suggest.
How do you like your new tab, if it's arrived yet? I found TouchWiz to be absolutely horrible and despite my preference to not trip Knox, I ended up with CM11 and it is like night and day. A completely different device.
Dou's this otterbox block or interfere with the ir blaster in anyway?
No it doesn't block the IR blaster since there's a cut out for it, it's all functional and good, accessible ports and all and is much better compared to other cases.
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It doesn't block IR blaster at all. However, it blocks the microsd slot completely, which is not a big deal for me. Another issue I had with this case is that you wouldn't be able to use a OTG cable at all. The thickness on the charging port wouldn't allow you to plug OTG cable onto it. Luckily, I am only using this case heavy duty protection such as traveling.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OWWMSC0/ref=twister_B00LGZ87CQ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I'm personally not a fan of an all rubber outside. So I found this and it works great. Like with the otterbox, I would suggest removing the built in screen as it has a terrible oil slick thing going on. Plus I love white, which the otterbox doesn't offer or didn't at the time I ordered this. Oh and its a third of the cost.
I received this case as part of their evaluation program. Here's what I think of it.
Packaging: I liked the packaging. You could see the case well and the back of it had the usage instructions so I would be able to see what I was getting. I liked that it was easy to open (not a clam shell) and resulted in a minimum amount of trash.
Initial impression: I like the color. The texture of the case felt nice and it looks and feels sturdy.
Installation: Installation was simple. It did not require excessive force to snap on like some cases. It fits the tablet well with all the cut outs lined up and well sized. I noticed there is no cut out for the SD card slot. It does not bother me since I never remove my SD, but it might bother someone who does.
Protection: From the look of it I would say it provides good protection. I like that the sides are protected unlike the Samsung cover I was using. I do have a damaged corner due to a drop while using the Samsung cover. I would be confident this cover would have prevented that. The only thing that concerns me is that the front cover does not hold closed very well. If you hold the tablet with the front cover facing down it very easily comes open. I would be worried it would pop open on a fall and leave the screen unprotected.
Usage: The open positions are easy to use and the tablet stays securely propped. My only question is why have position 2 and 3 hold the tablet at identical angles? (position numbers are the order they are listed on the back cover) I would like it if one of the positions held it at more of a 45 degree angle. The Samsung case has a position like that and it is very convenient for usage on the lap.
Removal: This case is very hard to remove. In fact I popped out the glass of the tabled from the frame a few times while I was trying to get this case off. I finally got it off by starting in the corner near the headphone jack port.
Other: The cover leaves a somewhat distracting hexagon pattern on the screen, but it is easily wiped off. The back cover is a bit slick. If set on a slanted surface the tablet slides off. I have to remember to put it face down. I am also seeing finger/hand prints easily on the back.
Overall this is a very nice case with just a few areas that could be improved. For the price it is a great choice.
Here's a link to it on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/roocase-Samsung-Galaxy-10-5-Case/dp/B00L2N5IQK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1435684467&sr=8-7&keywords=roocase+origami+tab+s+10.5
Nice review. I think mine is also on the way, so I'll post up some pictures as well once it arrives.
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I received this case as part of their evaluation program. Here's what I think of it.
Packaging: I liked the packaging. You could see the case well and the back of it had the usage instructions so I would be able to see what I was getting. I liked that it was easy to open (not a clam shell) and resulted in a minimum amount of trash.
Initial impression: I like the color. The texture of the case felt nice and it looks and feels sturdy.
Installation: Installation was simple. It did not require excessive force to snap on like some cases. It fits the tablet well with all the cut outs lined up and well sized. I noticed there is no cut out for the SD card slot. It does not bother me since I never remove my SD, but it might bother someone who does.
Protection: From the look of it I would say it provides good protection. I like that the sides are protected unlike the Samsung cover I was using. I do have a damaged corner due to a drop while using the Samsung cover. I would be confident this cover would have prevented that. The only thing that concerns me is that the front cover does not hold closed very well. If you hold the tablet with the front cover facing down it very easily comes open. I would be worried it would pop open on a fall and leave the screen unprotected.
Usage: The open positions are easy to use and the tablet stays securely propped. My only question is why have position 2 and 3 hold the tablet at identical angles? (position numbers are the order they are listed on the back cover) I would like it if one of the positions held it at more of a 45 degree angle. The Samsung case has a position like that and it is very convenient for usage on the lap.
Removal: This case is very hard to remove. In fact I popped out the glass of the tabled from the frame a few times while I was trying to get this case off. I finally got it off by starting in the corner near the headphone jack port.
Other: The cover leaves a somewhat distracting hexagon pattern on the screen, but it is easily wiped off. The back cover is a bit slick. If set on a slanted surface the tablet slides off. I have to remember to put it face down. I am also seeing finger/hand prints easily on the back.
Overall this is a very nice case with just a few areas that could be improved. For the price it is a great choice.
Here's a link to it on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/roocase-Samsung-Galaxy-10-5-Case/dp/B00L2N5IQK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1435684467&sr=8-7&keywords=roocase+origami+tab+s+10.5
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Hi nicholb,
Thank you for your review and feedback. After reading through, we noticed you mentioned that there are finger/hand prints that are showing on the back of the case. Were these easily removed, or a bit more troublesome to get off?
Please let us know, so we can look into this.
The fingerprints on the back do easily wipe off with a cloth.
I've got one of these Roocases last year and yes they're very rugged however the trade off is the weight of the case which is 288 grams.
I've been using my tab in doors at home but I'm now going to be more mobile so I'm going to have to look at another case that's lighter yeah I know it'll be more at risk but it's just too heavy when holding for long periods.
I might try this one as it's 200g lighter:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAMAR®-Supr...r=8-7&keywords=samsung+galaxy+tab+s+10.5+case
So here is my review after using this product for a couple weeks.
First Impression
The case came packaged nicely with an easy to open plastic cover. Being able to see the majority of the case itself rather than just a box is a plus in my eyes.
Design
I love the design of this case and the origami concept for the top cover. The only issue I really have is the top cover seems a bit too light and flexible. The OEM case has a consistently sturdy feeling across all of it's pieces. This cover also overhangs the edges just a bit when closed.
Protection
I have dropped my tablet both intentionally and unintentionally with this case on and it survived without even a scratch. The body of the case is very sturdy and solid with a nice feel to it. The OEM case sucked at being protective and often times the tablet would fly out of it. The mounting tabs for the OEM solution seem to get looser each time I remove and reattach the case, so that left a lot to be desired. This case however is an extremely solid fit. The OP stated he had an issue with it being tough to remove (to the point of almost damaging the tablet), but I didn't have that issue. It was in there pretty tight but removal wasn't difficult.
Usage
I've been using this case for at least 2 weeks so far and it has not disappointed me as yet. The viewing angles work for my uses and the sturdy nature of the case instilled confidence when using it in the garage.
Final Thoughts
I love the color combination I received and the feel/ texture of this case. The top could be a little stiffer so it wouldn't feel like it's just flopping around, but that's just my nitpicking. If I had to pay for this case I definitely would, as it serves my purposes very well.
Here is the link to the case I received. Photos will be uploaded later.
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I can see why the cover seems flimsy, so it can fold to hold the tablet in the different positions. Maybe in a update the company can make the cover a little thicker. To the OP & munnarg, you did not say whether or not if the cover had a magnet to turn off the screen when closed. I have been looking at this case for a replacement for my Samsung half(?) cover that came with the tablet.
Yeah it does turn the screen off when the lid gets about halfway closed.
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I can see why the cover seems flimsy, so it can fold to hold the tablet in the different positions. Maybe in a update the company can make the cover a little thicker. To the OP & munnarg, you did not say whether or not if the cover had a magnet to turn off the screen when closed. I have been looking at this case for a replacement for my Samsung half(?) cover that came with the tablet.
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Just a follow up now that I have been using the case a month. I have decided not to go back to the Samsung cover for two main reasons. First this case provides much better protection. I had one drop from waist high with the Samsung case and cracked the corner of the tablet's frame. This case encloses the edges and provides better protection. Second I like the looks and color of this case better.
My only minor quibbles with the case are that I wish it had a ~45 degree angle. Where I use the tablet that angle works well for me. I also would like for the back to be a little less slick. I have to be careful to set the tablet face down on slanted surfaces or it slides off. You would not think that would come up often, but two of the places I routinely set my tablet happen to be slanted.
Overall a good case and I'll probably use it for the life of the tablet.
Received mine few days ago, love it but it's so damn hard to remove, popped the glass off the frame like nicholb explained, learnt the hard way to remove it. It also blocks the sdcard port, I have no idea why so the first thing I did after removing it was snipped it off with a pair of pliers and then smooth it down with a knife, the port now available, still a bit tough to access the card inside cuz the case edge is thick, but it is better than before =]
I had my first minor drop last night with the case on. I had the tablet on the arm of the couch open with the case in position 3 (the one where the cover is pinched together). When I sat down I bumped the tablet and it fell to the ground landing screen down with the cover open. After steeling myself to look at it fearing the worst, I found no damage. The case did its job and protected the tablet.
So, I finally got around to installing my Whitestone Dome tempered glass screen protector.
Initial thoughts...
-The kit is overwhelming when you first open it. Don't be tempted to try and identify every little piece in it. The packaging design is genius, and waste is at an absolute minimum.
-They scienced the **** out of this. The alignment is perfect. Not askew in the slightest.
-It is NOT full-coverage. I'm admittedly disappointed in this aspect. It covers the responsive part of the display, but it does not go edge-to-edge. This gives it a tangible learning curve in terms of hand and finger placement during use.
-If you follow the instructions to the letter, and don't try and cut corners, it will go smoothly.
-There will be a mess to cleanup. Price of admission.
-You never knew you could see dust so small in size, and the OCD in you will not let you even begin until you clear every last speck.
I hope this might help someone on the fence, or at least entertain mildly.
Link to a video with a slightly better view:
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So, I finally got around to installing my Whitestone Dome tempered glass screen protector.
Initial thoughts...
-The kit is overwhelming when you first open it. Don't be tempted to try and identify every little piece in it. The packaging design is genius, and waste is at an absolute minimum.
-The scienced the **** out of this. The alignment is perfect. Not askew in the slightest.
-It is NOT full-coverage. I'm admittedly disappointed in this aspect. It covers the responsive part of the display, but it does not go edge-to-edge. This gives it a tangible learning curve in terms of hand and finger placement during use.
-If you follow the instructions to the letter, and don't try and cut corners, it will go smoothly.
-There will be a mess to cleanup. Price of admission.
-You never new you could see dust so small in size, and the OCD in you will not let you even begin until you clear every last speck.
I hope this might help someone on the fence, or at least entertain mildly.
Link to a video with a slightly better view:
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If it were edge to edge, you wouldn't be able to put it in a case without it lifting and essentially depositing the 60 bucks or whatever that 50 cent piece of tempered glass costs for the Note 9 in the trash.
Yeah. The S9+ Whitestone was more 'edge-to-edge' than the one for the Note 9. I don't mind. The S9+'s WSD was somewhat a pain with some cases so I appreciate the not quite edge-to-edge fit of the Note 9 WSD.
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If it were edge to edge, you wouldn't be able to put it in a case without it lifting and essentially depositing the 60 bucks or whatever that 50 cent piece of tempered glass costs for the Note 9 in the trash.
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True. I hadn't thought about that aspect since I don't use cases anymore. I've got a skin on the back for the sake of scratches, and this is my first tempered glass screen protector. I like that it feels just like the naked glass, even if the actual coverage will take some getting used to. [emoji106]
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True. I hadn't thought about that aspect since I don't use cases anymore. I've got a skin on the back for the sake of scratches, and this is my first tempered glass screen protector. I like that it feels just like the naked glass, even if the actual coverage will take some getting used to. [emoji106]
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Yeah, it's definitely less noticeable when it's in a case. They should make an edge to edge and case friendly version.
I had an install issue where it looks like a small plastic cutout was left on the screen edge. Not sure how this happened because my screen was clean and I removed the backing and put it down quickly. I noticed the issue during the glue portion and couldn't get the glue to cover the area =/
https://imgur.com/gallery/LlecQYK
disturbd1 said:
So, I finally got around to installing my Whitestone Dome tempered glass screen protector.
Initial thoughts...
-The kit is overwhelming when you first open it. Don't be tempted to try and identify every little piece in it. The packaging design is genius, and waste is at an absolute minimum.
-They scienced the **** out of this. The alignment is perfect. Not askew in the slightest.
-It is NOT full-coverage. I'm admittedly disappointed in this aspect. It covers the responsive part of the display, but it does not go edge-to-edge. This gives it a tangible learning curve in terms of hand and finger placement during use.
-If you follow the instructions to the letter, and don't try and cut corners, it will go smoothly.
-There will be a mess to cleanup. Price of admission.
-You never knew you could see dust so small in size, and the OCD in you will not let you even begin until you clear every last speck.
I hope this might help someone on the fence, or at least entertain mildly.
Link to a video with a slightly better view:
https://goo.gl/VBa1ATView attachment 4581795View attachment 4581796View attachment 4581797
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is this ocean blue mate?
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I had an install issue where it looks like a small plastic cutout was left on the screen edge. Not sure how this happened because my screen was clean and I removed the backing and put it down quickly. I noticed the issue during the glue portion and couldn't get the glue to cover the area =/
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What case is that you're using ?
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is this ocean blue mate?
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Sure is. It has a Dbrand skin on the back.
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jeweladdict said:
I had an install issue where it looks like a small plastic cutout was left on the screen edge. Not sure how this happened because my screen was clean and I removed the backing and put it down quickly. I noticed the issue during the glue portion and couldn't get the glue to cover the area =/
https://imgur.com/gallery/LlecQYK
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Definitely something between the screen and the protector, unless it's your Edge bar.
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mys3 said:
What case is that you're using ?
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spigen ultra thin one, matte black with triangles on the back. no kickstand
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Sure is. It has a Dbrand skin on the back.
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The ocean blue is really growing on me. I thought it would be a lot more of a lighter blue. Im stilling waiting on my 512 ocean blue to ship but once the midnight black release ill be jumping on that right away.
Do you have any pics of your dbrand skin?
So I bit the bullet and tried this...first time with the dome glass....and I loved it! Installation is a PITA but it went perfectly and the glass was amazing...until I dropped the phone today and it shattered! (sigh)
$45 and it lasted 3 days, UGH! Of course, better to break the protector than the screen itself.
What's stopping dust particles settling on the phone when the glue is poured on to the screen?
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What's stopping dust particles settling on the phone when the glue is poured on to the screen?
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Well, I guess nothing will stop the determined mote of dust from spoiling the application. I used this product on three S8s (and have it on order for my Note 9), and I did have an pesky bit of black schmutz under the glass. But it was only noticeable when the background was white (which is, like, almost always). I was sloppy, and not taking my time, and didn't really clean my work area as I should have. But the set up came with two vials of adhesive, and I was able to remove the glass and re-apply. The adhesive is more like cured rubber cement than a sticky glue.
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What's stopping dust particles settling on the phone when the glue is poured on to the screen?
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In general, nothing. When you're doing the install and get to this point, I'd suggest taking a second to hit the screen with another pass of the dust tape, then resting the glass protector on the speaker pin as you let it spread towards the center (which then acts as a bit of a dust shield).
I would think if you're lucky and don't push down on the glass, as you're not supposed to, that most dust will push out to the sides as the adhesive spreads. Just a thought.
Does anyone else have any sticky residue coming from the sides when you rub the edges? Quite annoying, granted it might be a bit my fault as I immediately picked up the phone after all the glue adhered to the screen and then it started to slide up and down. I should have just let it sit and used the UV light to cure it in place. But wanting to know if anyone else who did it perfectly is getting glue residue along the edges.
djinn415 said:
Does anyone else have any sticky residue coming from the sides when you rub the edges? Quite annoying, granted it might be a bit my fault as I immediately picked up the phone after all the glue adhered to the screen and then it started to slide up and down. I should have just let it sit and used the UV light to cure it in place. But wanting to know if anyone else who did it perfectly is getting glue residue along the edges.
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Once the screen has cured you should be able to use alcohol to clear out any glue from the edges. I had a Dome on my Note 8, flawless install, the phone literally slid off my lap about 12 inches onto my car console and there was a crack through the length of the Dome glass. It looks beautiful, works great, but it's as hard as a potato chip. There is no way the phone screen would have cracked from that. These types of cracks happen a lot with the WSD protectors.
It was my first time with the WSD as well.
One issue I had was during lifting the top jig frame after laying the glass and curing it for 15secs. The top part of the frame was tight against the glass. So when I tried to lift the frame out, it lifted the glass as well!!
Then I decided to use my fingers to press down the glass before lifting the frame.
Yes,, I had lots of tiny bubbles on the top left. Luckily, after 2 days, almost all bubbles disappeared. Phew!
As for those afraid of dust, make sure you install in a clean environment with no source of wind. I did it after closing my windows, ceiling fan and also breathed softly. And don't forget to use the stickers to lift up the dust EVEN if you don't see any!