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Would you still recommend Galaxy S7?

Hi there,
I'm in the market to buy a new phone and teh S7 is on top of my list. I waited a little to see what problems arise in the first month after launch. I see some problems with front facing camera and rear facing camera video. After using this phone for 30 days would you still buy it or recommend it to someone like me. I had a LG G4 that i really liked but it had some small screen problem so I returned it. The LG G4 is half the price of te S7. In these condition would you still buy the S7? Please argue you answer.

Samsung galaxy s7 have many new features coming one of them is android marshmallow. The other hidden features you are not aware of like:
- Screen Lock Shortcuts
- Set up Gear VR
- Samsung Pay
- Motion Photo Option
- change the icon backgrounds
- Always On Display Option
After getting all these features i definitely recommend you to buy this phone.

I have the Exynos S7 and this is the best phone I've had.
The battery is great (getting 2 days minimum on a charge).
The camera is great although it has a (very) bad tendency to over-sharpen.
Touchwiz is very slimmed down and its performance is flawless.
The 4gb of ram are very useful and I've rarely (if ever) seen apps reloading when switching between recent apps.
What I don't quite like is the design - very slippery and smudgy - I don't recommend ever using it without a case. Coming from an S4, for me it's also a bit on the heavy side.

I'm ~2 weeks in and at this point I'd make the same decision again. I was hesitant to have a phone without root but so far my fears where unfounded. There are a few things I miss but nothing major.

3 weeks in coming from an LG G3 and no regrets. Best smartphone I've had yet.

I have the S7E. Pretty close to each other. It's a pho e with no compromises. Software is fast and fluid. Camera rocks, though it tends to overshapen but still impressive quality. Battery life for days. I cant tell you any flaws with it at this point.

Battery life alone is worth it. Came from an s5.

AliceBToklas said:
I'm ~2 weeks in and at this point I'd make the same decision again. I was hesitant to have a phone without root but so far my fears where unfounded. There are a few things I miss but nothing major.
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I'll second this. I've only had rooted phones since the original droid and I was pretty worried about not having V4A, quick unlock, and add blocking. So far, the only thing I've really missed is add blocking but I'm still totally happy with the phone.

dclutter1 said:
I'll second this. I've only had rooted phones since the original droid and I was pretty worried about not having V4A, quick unlock, and add blocking. So far, the only thing I've really missed is add blocking but I'm still totally happy with the phone.
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Have you given Adguard a try? I've come to like it enough I purchased it. Just be sure to disable battery optimization on it until (if?) they can get that bit fixed. They have new versions on the way which should be even better.

AliceBToklas said:
Have you given Adguard a try? I've come to like it enough I purchased it. Just be sure to disable battery optimization on it until (if?) they can get that bit fixed. They have new versions on the way which should be even better.
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No, I haven't. I looked into some non-root ad blockers a week or two ago (don't remember if this was one of them), and they all had pretty terrible reviews.
I'll give Adguard a try though. Thanks for the recommendation.

dclutter1 said:
No, I haven't. I looked into some non-root ad blockers a week or two ago (don't remember if this was one of them), and they all had pretty terrible reviews.
I'll give Adguard a try though. Thanks for the recommendation.
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For the full version it is not cheap, but worth it to me as I was getting REALLY annoyed by all the ads in apps.
You can check out there progress @ https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardForAndroid.

Try adguard available on their site and not via Google play for obvious reasons.
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daemmon said:
I have the Exynos S7 and this is the best phone I've had.
The battery is great (getting 2 days minimum on a charge).
The camera is great although it has a (very) bad tendency to over-sharpen.
Touchwiz is very slimmed down and its performance is flawless.
The 4gb of ram are very useful and I've rarely (if ever) seen apps reloading when switching between recent apps.
What I don't quite like is the design - very slippery and smudgy - I don't recommend ever using it without a case. Coming from an S4, for me it's also a bit on the heavy side.
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Agree with everything except the design, I love it. I guess you meant the material used? But me too, best phone I have ever used by a long shot.
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Macguyver said:
3 weeks in coming from an LG G3 and no regrets. Best smartphone I've had yet.
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Same with me. No regrets at all so far. The only gripe I have is how slippery the phone is and the dearth of good case options in circulation.
Edit: I forgot to mention I wish the DAC allowed for more headphone volume.
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soopermarkus said:
Same with me. No regrets at all so far. The only gripe I have is how slippery the phone is and the dearth of good case options in circulation.
Edit: I forgot to mention I wish the DAC allowed for more headphone volume.
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I'm using the Diztronic matte black TPU case, 4th phone in a row with a Diztronic and love it.
Yeah I wish the DAC had more volume too.

barondebxl said:
Agree with everything except the design, I love it. I guess you meant the material used? But me too, best phone I have ever used by a long shot.
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Yeah, I was indeed referring to the materials. I really hate this all-glass trend. All metal or at least plastic back would have been more to my liking.

i seem to be interested with the s7 again. not sure tho. but im open to the idea.

AliceBToklas said:
For the full version it is not cheap, but worth it to me as I was getting REALLY annoyed by all the ads in apps.
You can check out there progress @ https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdguardForAndroid.
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Just download Adguard, click on buy premium and then change the currency to russian rubel.
Now you can buy a lifetime licence for around 4€.
Adguard works like any adblocker on a rooted devices (only the little key symbol is annoying)
You can get rid of the symbol by using tasker and only activating Adguard while the use of Chrome/Apps with Ads
After this little investement I don't miss root at all

enlan said:
(only the little key symbol is annoying)
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This notification is bothering me way more than it should :/

That's why I wrote. Buy the Tasker app.
Then only start adguard while having chrome/ app with ads open.
I can give you the adguard on/off profiles if you want

S7 or One Plus 3?

HI Guys,
I currently have the S5 and am looking to get a new phone but finding it hard to choose between S7 and the OnePlus 3?
I understand the Oneplus 3 is better value for money but which is the best phone overall? I am leaning towards Samsung as I have always used a Samsung but only worry is whether the performance drops after a few months? The 6GB ram on the Oneplus is pretty tempting but again not sure if with time the performance will be affected.

asureka90 said:
HI Guys,
I currently have the S5 and am looking to get a new phone but finding it hard to choose between S7 and the OnePlus 3?
I understand the Oneplus 3 is better value for money but which is the best phone overall? I am leaning towards Samsung as I have always used a Samsung but only worry is whether the performance drops after a few months? The 6GB ram on the Oneplus is pretty tempting but again not sure if with time the performance will be affected.
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I think either device would be a great upgrade as both companies have done a great job as far as refining their flagship device and so you'll be getting a top phone either way. I have previously had a Galaxy S4 which I really liked and also a Oneplus which I also really liked, both for different reasons. Its going to come down to what needs/preferences you have or want to have in a new device such as camera, sound, build, software, etc.
I found my Oneplus One was great for ROMs,mods and tweaks, there was endless things you could tinker with if you wanted to (you didnt have to). With the S7, it will depend on whether you will be using the Snapdragon or Exynos version, as the bootloader is locked down on the Snapdragon version and so there wont be any aosp ROMs until someone (ever?) finds a way around that. The bonus of the Oneplus one was that it shipped with Cyanogen OS and there were so many (there still are) other ROMs you could try and choose from. Im not sure how this will compare on the OP3, but then again it might not be a big concern to you.
I have the Exynos version S7 myself and havent bothered with rooting or any roms yet as it runs so well out of the box, but its nice to know the option is there if I ever feel like it. I think the upgrade from S5->S7 is a good one for you, as you dont lose features such as the micro sd card and water/dust resistance, which you would have with the S6. The one thing that you would lose would be the ability to use a second battery as its obviously non-removable with the S7, but then again there are tons of good portable batteries these days which can cover that situation.
The OP3 definitely seems like a solid device in terms of actual physical build and specs, it would also be a nice change from Samsung/Touchwiz if you wanted a slightly different OS experience. I dont think the 6GB is something you will appreciate day to day or feel the benefit of right away, as Oneplus themselves hadnt really even optimised for 6GB of ram when they released the device and are currently working on an OTA to address this. But its definitely going to future proof the device for while and provide solid multitasking abilities, although the 4GB on the S7 does a great job of this as well.
I would read through the S7 and OP3 forums on XDA to get a feel of user's opinions and any pros and cons. Sometimes things (good or bad) only come to light a while after the devices have been in the hands of owners who are using them day in day out and putting them through their paces. I would happily recommend the S7 for lovely build quality, superb display, top camera, good battery and all the other features that are actually useful (water resistance, sd card slot). If I didnt have my S7 (it was a contract upgrade) I would seriously consider the OP3, especially as you can just order it without an invite this time, it seems to be very good value for money.

@gsmyth pretty much said it all. Give us an idea of how you use your Galaxy S5. Have you rooted, custom recovery, ROM's etc... Are you a multitasker, heavy browser or social media addict?
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S7 has
Much Better screen with higher resolution
Waterproof
Better warranty
Better camera
Better battery (screen on time)
Sd card 200g
Faster internal storage(speed)
Not usb type c (more accesories)
Exynos processor faster (multicore and everyday life use)
One plus 3 has
More ram
Better gpu for gaming
No knox
Rooting without loosing warranty
Os is simpler like aosp
Developer friendly
Lower price
Build quality is very good in both phones also design is something subjective.

Hi
I have a S7 and my daughter has a S7 Edge , both perform great , both look great ......i am really happy with it

http://m.pocketnow.com/2016/06/28/oneplus-3-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7
here a comparative of the two phones pro and con on both side
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asureka90 said:
HI Guys,
I currently have the S5 and am looking to get a new phone but finding it hard to choose between S7 and the OnePlus 3?
I understand the Oneplus 3 is better value for money but which is the best phone overall? I am leaning towards Samsung as I have always used a Samsung but only worry is whether the performance drops after a few months? The 6GB ram on the Oneplus is pretty tempting but again not sure if with time the performance will be affected.
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Perhaps you're interested in my initial comparison between the two over on the OnePlus forum (What device did you ditch for one plus3? - Post 284).
With the S7(E) you are paying (considerably extra) for Screen and Camera Quality, Weatherproofing and design.
If these are not so important you can save money with the Op3. It is a good phone.
Hope this helps somewhat.

S5
I had a S3 before that I rooted and was using Cynagoen Mod for a while but that phone became extremely unstable and just became a brick by the end of it so I decided not to root or install custom ROM on my S5 thinking it would perform better over the long term. However after a year or so the performance dropped a lot and the past 6 months it's been terrible. It
I am more of a multi tasker and do use couple of different social media platforms but not too addicted by any means.

Thanks!
Thanks for your detailed response!! Really appreciate it!
gsmyth said:
I think either device would be a great upgrade as both companies have done a great job as far as refining their flagship device and so you'll be getting a top phone either way. I have previously had a Galaxy S4 which I really liked and also a Oneplus which I also really liked, both for different reasons. Its going to come down to what needs/preferences you have or want to have in a new device such as camera, sound, build, software, etc.
I found my Oneplus One was great for ROMs,mods and tweaks, there was endless things you could tinker with if you wanted to (you didnt have to). With the S7, it will depend on whether you will be using the Snapdragon or Exynos version, as the bootloader is locked down on the Snapdragon version and so there wont be any aosp ROMs until someone (ever?) finds a way around that. The bonus of the Oneplus one was that it shipped with Cyanogen OS and there were so many (there still are) other ROMs you could try and choose from. Im not sure how this will compare on the OP3, but then again it might not be a big concern to you.
I have the Exynos version S7 myself and havent bothered with rooting or any roms yet as it runs so well out of the box, but its nice to know the option is there if I ever feel like it. I think the upgrade from S5->S7 is a good one for you, as you dont lose features such as the micro sd card and water/dust resistance, which you would have with the S6. The one thing that you would lose would be the ability to use a second battery as its obviously non-removable with the S7, but then again there are tons of good portable batteries these days which can cover that situation.
The OP3 definitely seems like a solid device in terms of actual physical build and specs, it would also be a nice change from Samsung/Touchwiz if you wanted a slightly different OS experience. I dont think the 6GB is something you will appreciate day to day or feel the benefit of right away, as Oneplus themselves hadnt really even optimised for 6GB of ram when they released the device and are currently working on an OTA to address this. But its definitely going to future proof the device for while and provide solid multitasking abilities, although the 4GB on the S7 does a great job of this as well.
I would read through the S7 and OP3 forums on XDA to get a feel of user's opinions and any pros and cons. Sometimes things (good or bad) only come to light a while after the devices have been in the hands of owners who are using them day in day out and putting them through their paces. I would happily recommend the S7 for lovely build quality, superb display, top camera, good battery and all the other features that are actually useful (water resistance, sd card slot). If I didnt have my S7 (it was a contract upgrade) I would seriously consider the OP3, especially as you can just order it without an invite this time, it seems to be very good value for money.
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Thanks!
Thanks! Was helpful, the price difference for the S7 is $120 USD extra so it would be worth paying $120 for those added features
drummerman said:
Perhaps you're interested in my initial comparison between the two over on the OnePlus forum (What device did you ditch for one plus3? - Post 284).
With the S7(E) you are paying (considerably extra) for Screen and Camera Quality, Weatherproofing and design.
If these are not so important you can save money with the Op3. It is a good phone.
Hope this helps somewhat.
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kutulu32 said:
S7 has
Much Better screen with higher resolution
Waterproof
Better warranty
Better camera
Better battery (screen on time)
Sd card 200g
Faster internal storage(speed)
Not usb type c (more accesories)
Exynos processor faster (multicore and everyday life use)
One plus 3 has
More ram
Better gpu for gaming
No knox
Rooting without loosing warranty
Os is simpler like aosp
Developer friendly
Lower price
Build quality is very good in both phones also design is something subjective.
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More ram but its worst than s7 4gb ram.
S7 better choice.
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asureka90 said:
Thanks for your detailed response!! Really appreciate it!
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No worries, let us know what you decide on. :good:

Whichever device you choose I think you will be happy. It's always fun when I pick up a new device especially when it's one of the latest flagship devices. Let us know which one you get. Good luck!
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gsmyth said:
No worries, let us know what you decide on. :good:
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Got the S7 in silver! Going to switch today! Whats the best way to transfer all my data/apps to my new phone?
Also, does using Nova Launcher and Swift Keyboard affect the phones performance? I have used these two apps from day one so was wondering if its better to use the stock options for improved performance!
Thanks! @gsmyth @fast69mopar

Great. You'll be happy with the S7E especially now that root is available. The root game all happened in the last few days and there are several threads dedicated to rooting your device. I surely don't think using Nova with SwiftKey will affect performance in any way. Give it a shot and report back so other users will know. Good luck with your new S7E.
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fast69mopar said:
Great. You'll be happy with the S7E especially now that root is available. The root game all happened in the last few days and there are several threads dedicated to rooting your device. I surely don't think using Nova with SwiftKey will affect performance in any way. Give it a shot and report back so other users will know. Good luck with your new S7E.
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Cheers! Will let you know how it goes!

asureka90 said:
Got the S7 in silver! Going to switch today! Whats the best way to transfer all my data/apps to my new phone?
Also, does using Nova Launcher and Swift Keyboard affect the phones performance? I have used these two apps from day one so was wondering if its better to use the stock options for improved performance!
Thanks! @gsmyth @fast69mopar
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Nice one!
There is the Samsung switch app which should get most of your data over from your old device. You also get a USB OTG type adapter to hook up for transferring data.
I also use Nova launcher on devices as it's so customisable and also to get that stock look, but haven't installed it on my S7 as I haven't felt the need. Previously touchwiz was pretty laggy and boring looking but I think Samsung have actually improved it quite well. I do miss not having the hide apps feature and having to re-sort the app drawer after installing an app is pretty annoying,but not a deal breaker for me. I have also installed a material theme which changes the icon theme as well ( plus it themes the pull down drawer and settings menu.
I also just use the Samsung keyboard as it's working OK for me, again I have used the Google one on other devices but haven't felt the need to install another one. You can always give both apps a try and see what you prefer on your S7, it really depends on what you find better/nicer/easier.
Enjoy your new phone and see you around XDA!
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if you looking for value go to op3 but if you have budget go to s7

S7 Edge migration to Pixel XL ?

I only owned 1 nexus before due to the simple reason they were not playing on the stronger league of hardware, despite the fact being updated often it was still not enough to convince me to go back to mid-range cell phones... I guess not time has come to say goodbye to samsung, their crappy bloatware and let go the edge (that in reality has few use from me, it's there...so I can swipe it...once a week for the news that I recive a notification anyway )
So most certainly gonna move to the new google phones and leave samsung to eat their own filth regarding their policies and bloatware after a few generations that I had... s3, s4, s6 and s7. Time to a new game...
Anyone else planning to move?

I agree on most of the above points for reasons to move away from Sammy to Google's new phones if they deliver.
I am however waiting for my S7E to be delivered... I use the Note 3, which is still amazing to this day thanks to the xda and other dev communities. I've tried moving away to LG V10, which had awesome camera, apart from which my Note 3 beat it in every other way (performance and battery life being the major ones).
Thrilled to get my hands on the S7E and flash away....... Let's see how long it lasts (hoping the screen is not that fragile).
But ultimately Google's Pixel phone should be a killer, I am especially excited to check the camera (it appears to be the only real reason to upgrade the phone for me currently) so I will most likely switch to Google camp
Otherwise OnePlus3 is a decent phone for half the price...

The s7e is better than the pixel lineup
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no offense , but only a brain dead idiot will change from s7e to damn costly pixel xl , that too running stock android

The galaxy s7 edge is better!

The Pixel lineup is fine imho, but not at that price range. Too expensive! Should be way cheaper to even be an alternative. I would miss the expandable storage and the ip certification as well. In hindsight not so fine i guess after all...

That's the general consensus I've been reading since yesterday. Who in their right mind would pay 760€ - 1000€ for either of the Pixel phones with their only outstanding feature being Daydream? Yeah, there are timely updates and a complete "Google experience" but the average consumer doesn't care about these things. Google doesn't hit it. A. In that price range, you have devices that can do way more, and are better equipped, e.g. water resistance, no headphone jack, S-Pen etc. Something the Pixel phones don't offer and B. the things the Pixel phones offer you can easily have on a OnePlus 3 or many other 300€ - 400€ devices.
Besides, these things being non-Nexus devices, I can imagine Google implementing a feature similar to an irreversible flash counter like the KNOX FLAG.
But fear not! The Nexus line is not dead. The Pixel phones are just a distraction. At least, according to Stephen Hall from 9to5 Google.

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That's the general consensus I've been reading since yesterday. Who in their right mind would pay 760€ - 1000€ for either of the Pixel phones with their only outstanding feature being Daydream? Yeah, there are timely updates and a complete "Google experience" but the average consumer doesn't care about these things. Google doesn't hit it. A. In that price range, you have devices that can do way more, and are better equipped, e.g. water resistance, no headphone jack, S-Pen etc. Something the Pixel phones don't offer and B. the things the Pixel phones offer you can easily have on a OnePlus 3 or many other 300€ - 400€ devices.
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wait...... no headphone jack is a GOOD thing???

WerkFlowJones said:
wait...... no headphone jack is a GOOD thing???
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That was poorly implemented sarcasm. Sorry.

Price vs. features vs. design ... Pixel and Pixel XL are a expensive HTC garbage that ruined the Nexus realm.
The Pixels have nothing on the S7 or S7 Edge.

insaned said:
I only owned 1 nexus before due to the simple reason they were not playing on the stronger league of hardware, despite the fact being updated often it was still not enough to convince me to go back to mid-range cell phones... I guess not time has come to say goodbye to samsung, their crappy bloatware and let go the edge (that in reality has few use from me, it's there...so I can swipe it...once a week for the news that I recive a notification anyway )
So most certainly gonna move to the new google phones and leave samsung to eat their own filth regarding their policies and bloatware after a few generations that I had... s3, s4, s6 and s7. Time to a new game...
Anyone else planning to move?
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I'm thinking about it, mainly because of the battery life. No matter what I do, this phone sucks on battery life. I'm going to wait and see what the reports are though before I jump in and order one.

Mmmmmm the only phone that can make me think of replacing my s7e with is Note 7. Been using note 4 before and I miss it...
Google phone is too expensive for having nothing really better but the cam... only few apps that I wont use like the new google now.

No way, the pixel is far to expensive.
I can't see any advantage over the S7e except the slightly faster Updates.
Over the last years Samsung has improved the Update-cycle to an really good level so i can live with it.
I wouldn't give up the excellent Battery, the waterresistance and the SD-Card for the Pixel...

Well, maybe I'm too long on samsung galaxys and just wanna move... I went trough all the headaches, knox ****, the harder ways to personalize the phone...
At the moment the truth is that I cannot complain about the s7 edge, however this is due to long headaches... I have 120 apps/services frozen. Most is samsung junk... google now didn't make sense to me, I was avoid some battery draining not using it,until I realized that the voice is too handy while I'm driving to put reminders, notes or ask for stuff which just made things little smoother specially when Im driving.
And I have a rooted phone, with xposed and now even the systemless is giving headaches.. so it's a choice of using flashfire or systemless and i'm simply fed up of all the around and arounds each time I wanna mod the phone. Ofc this is not a phone for the whole market... but for me just having updates a a more functional way to modify/root/xposed the phone the better.
I can be wrong... ANd I agree that samsung got way better with the battery draining and updates, but still because I rely a lot on frozen and modified stuff.
Nougat already out and we can sit and wait until january for that samsung test it, fill it up with their junk and release it to the s7. yes because now s8 is on the way so their aim is to release s8 with nougat... which is been typical from samsung lately, hold the updates and then release a new model already with the update leaving the older users waiting. still better than before though...

I was going to move from my S7e to the Pixel XL but I decided to wait for the S8. One of the things that made me want a Pixel was the 128gb storage capacity. Why don't Samsung come in larger capacities? This honestly really frustrates me because even with expandable SD it's still not having the same as a huge internal storage. Why can't they copy apple and have 128gb, 256gb? I love my S7e but I'd be more loyal to my phone if it had a larger internal capacity. So far, more than happy with my rooted S7e!

The Pixel does nothing for me AT ALL.
It's disgustingly expensive. It has no wireless charging, no removable storage, looks incredibly bland and boring, has nothing new at all. It brings nothing new to the table. I simply can't see any reason why anyone would switch. Except if they were a diehard plain vanilla stock Android fan.
And I don't care if they get updates quicker.

the_scotsman said:
The Pixel does nothing for me AT ALL.
It's disgustingly expensive. It has no wireless charging, no removable storage, looks incredibly bland and boring, has nothing new at all. It brings nothing new to the table. I simply can't see any reason why anyone would switch. Except if they were a diehard plain vanilla stock Android fan.
And I don't care if they get updates quicker.
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But but but but................you don't want to have Google Assistant? You can have conversations with your phone :silly:

bvdxr said:
Why don't Samsung come in larger capacities? This honestly really frustrates me because even with expandable SD it's still not having the same as a huge internal storage.
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SD slot.
Samsung EVO or Select 256 GB SD + 32 GB internal F T W !
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Galactus said:
But but but but................you don't want to have Google Assistant? You can have conversations with your phone :silly:
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That pretty much sums it up!
You should see the loathing idiots putting so much emphasis on GA being a huge differentiator, a decisive motivator to overpay for a Pixel on other sites.

The pixel is ugly AF. I'd question peoples tastes for dumping the s7e for that.

A phohe thats cost 1000 euro pixelXL? and no water resistant? go away google

returning the LGv20...

I feel like this phone is a great phone for a small audience.. And that's for music lovers.. Other than that this phone is actually pretty bad... The camera is useless with all the grain.. The screen is horrible at night it bleeds out so much.. The UI is disgusting.. And OMG THE LAG IS ABSURD.. How they released a phone thats constatly lagging..
Tbh very disappointed I have never returned a phone in my life. And I buy almost every phone that's release... Now I have no option to switch to iphone 7 until I can find a pixel xl for a good deal...
T-Mobile 918h

Is this a joke? This phone is smooth as butter especially compared to the v10, you're either running it with a poorly performing sdcard or you've got a defect.
UI is disgusting? What it's like every other freaking phone. There are plenty of 3rd party launchers to change it as you see fit.
Camera I am unsure of since I haven't really used it much yet but I am sure its not horrible like you're claiming.
Either way good luck with whatever phone you choose next. I am being sincere if my phone was like that I'd change too but mine has been good so far.
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evo4g63t said:
Is this a joke? This phone is smooth as butter especially compared to the v10, you're either running it with a poorly performing sdcard or you've got a defect.
UI is disgusting? What it's like every other freaking phone. There are plenty of 3rd party launchers to change it as you see fit.
Camera I am unsure of since I haven't really used it much yet but I am sure its not horrible like you're claiming.
Either way good luck with whatever phone you choose next. I am being sincere if my phone was like that I'd change too but mine has been good so far.
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Have you ever used a stock android phone such as a pixel or a nexus?..

egren58 said:
I feel like this phone is a great phone for a small audience.. And that's for music lovers.. Other than that this phone is actually pretty bad... The camera is useless with all the grain.. The screen is horrible at night it bleeds out so much.. The UI is disgusting.. And OMG THE LAG IS ABSURD.. How they released a phone thats constatly lagging..
Tbh very disappointed I have never returned a phone in my life. And I buy almost every phone that's release... Now I have no option to switch to iphone 7 until I can find a pixel xl for a good deal...
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Don't take this the wrong way. I'm just explaining my experience owning the phone since October so that you have more info about its capability.
Are you on a stock phone?
The rooting process and custom roms have allowed Dev's to fix many of the issues that existed on stock.
Lag? Mine is fast as sh*t. I came from the note 4 with one of the best custom roms (tx_dbs_tx) and this phone is much faster.
I'm on OvrDrive's rom and couldn't be happier. The latest update has the camera working faster and taking exceptional pictures. Better than my note 4.
Yes, the screen is not a sammy. When we are able to integrate kcal it will be close. I had kcal on an early rom version that really made the screen look good. Unfortunately, we have had problems with modifying the kernel, but I believe it is only a matter of time until it can be done safely.
I'm using a custom theme which looks great, especially at night. I don't spend a lot of time looking at my phone in a pitch black room, so I rarely see the bleed. This is the price you pay for a second screen, which I really like. I wouldn't trade the second screen for a phone without the second screen just to lose the bleed which I only see .01% of the time.
I got my wife an S7 edge. It is stock. Other than the great sammy screen, there is nothing that would make me consider trading my V20. I have so much more control over my phone than hers and can do much more.
If you are on stock, then maybe that is the problem. Rooted with a custom rom is great. If you aren't willing to go down that road, then, yes you should switch.

androiddiego said:
Don't take this the wrong way. I'm just explaining my experience owning the phone since October so that you have more info about its capability.
Are you on a stock phone?
The rooting process and custom roms have allowed Dev's to fix many of the issues that existed on stock.
Lag? Mine is fast as sh*t. I came from the note 4 with one of the best custom roms (tx_dbs_tx) and this phone is much faster.
I'm on OvrDrive's rom and couldn't be happier. The latest update has the camera working faster and taking exceptional pictures. Better than my note 4.
Yes, the screen is not a sammy. When we are able to integrate kcal it will be close. I had kcal on an early rom version that really made the screen look good. Unfortunately, we have had problems with modifying the kernel, but I believe it is only a matter of time until it can be done safely.
I'm using a custom theme which looks great, especially at night. I don't spend a lot of time looking at my phone in a pitch black room, so I rarely see the bleed. This is the price you pay for a second screen, which I really like. I wouldn't trade the second screen for a phone without the second screen just to lose the bleed which I only see .01% of the time.
I got my wife an S7 edge. It is stock. Other than the great sammy screen, there is nothing that would make me consider trading my V20. I have so much more control over my phone than hers and can do much more.
If you are on stock, then maybe that is the problem. Rooted with a custom rom is great. If you aren't willing to go down that road, then, yes you should switch.
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I am rooted. I have had the phone for about 10 days. I am on weta rom.. Is just I feel like this phone is phone is not the android experience I am used to.. I used the s7edge as well and did not like it either.. I am more of stock android. And I am starting to realize why people refuse to use anything but stock android.. I have had zero used for the second screen yeah it looks nice and I can see someone use it. But not me.. And the camera is. Really bad like dammed I think the nexus 6p takes netter pics. Selfies look like you have makeup.. Even with beauty turned off. AGAIN THIS IS MU EXPERIENCE.. Is my device defective?. Idk but highly doubt it.

I understand with the camera. I came from the v10 (also tmobile) and I can't figure out why the camera on the v20 takes such blurry/water color grainy what ever you call it pictures sometimes. Still hoping it's a software fix because the hardware is there. Should be at least as good as the v10 if not better... And it's not.
As for lag, I don't get it. Mine was smooth and fast for a while but now it lags sometimes. Open a text and count to 5 while I wait to see when it feels like actually popping up.
Sometimes I'm typing and waiting for the letters to pop up.
Ugh.
I wonder if it could be blamed on my SD card... It's the 200gb card that came with the v10.
I use SwiftKey keyboard. Never had a problem with lag before so I don't think it's the keyboard's fault.
My v10 was doing the same thing with the stock text messaging app and it wasn't even set to save anything so I don't think it had to do with large files or anything.
I set it up as new so I didn't bring a bunch of junk from my other phone and I don't really have all that many apps. I don't use the Facebook app and I don't have any problems at all with battery draining. The battery is awesome!
But I do wish I could figure out the lag. It doesn't make any sense that it should take so much time to open up my text messages. I would be tempted to blame it on the fact that I told it not to delete them anymore but like I said, the V10 was doing it and that one was deleting everything all the time!

I have costumized every aspects to get as close as to what I am used to and no luck at all.. I really tried to give this phone shot.. But just not for me..

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I understand with the camera. I came from the v10 (also tmobile) and I can't figure out why the camera on the v20 takes such blurry/water color grainy what ever you call it pictures sometimes. Still hoping it's a software fix because the hardware is there. Should be at least as good as the v10 if not better... And it's not.
As for lag, I don't get it. Mine was smooth and fast for a while but now it lags sometimes. Open a text and count to 5 while I wait to see when it feels like actually popping up.
Sometimes I'm typing and waiting for the letters to pop up.
Ugh.
I wonder if it could be blamed on my SD card... It's the 200gb card that came with the v10.
I use SwiftKey keyboard. Never had a problem with lag before so I don't think it's the keyboard's fault.
My v10 was doing the same thing with the stock text messaging app and it wasn't even set to save anything so I don't think it had to do with large files or anything.
I set it up as new so I didn't bring a bunch of junk from my other phone and I don't really have all that many apps. I don't use the Facebook app and I don't have any problems at all with battery draining. The battery is awesome!
But I do wish I could figure out the lag. It doesn't make any sense that it should take so much time to open up my text messages. I would be tempted to blame it on the fact that I told it not to delete them anymore but like I said, the V10 was doing it and that one was deleting everything all the time!
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I think they are not doing very well in optimizing their software

egren58 said:
I have costumized every aspects to get as close as to what I am used to and no luck at all.. I really tried to give this phone shot.. But just not for me..
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Ok, I get it. But why not give OrvDrive's rom a try since you are rooted? Can't hurt. His rom has the least complications of the others, not to bash them in any way. I appreciate the effort of all devs and know that behind the scene they are working together to some degree.
If you do find a better new phone, let me know. I might switch too.
Cheers.

androiddiego said:
Ok, I get it. But why not give OrvDrive's rom a try since you are rooted? Can't hurt. His rom has the least complications of the others, not to bash them in any way. I appreciate the effort of all devs and know that behind the scene they are working together to some degree.
If you do find a better new phone, let me know. I might switch too.
Cheers.
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Well I just ordered another pixel xl.. Since I lost my first one, But until then I will be using an iphone 7 plus.. And returning this back to T-Mobile...

egren58 said:
Well I just ordered another pixel xl.. Since I lost my first one, But until then I will be using an iphone 7 plus.. And returning this back to T-Mobile...
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Well good luck man hope it all works out for you. The no external memory support and the ridiculous price point for the pixel is why I didn't choose it.
To be honest I would not be using the v20 if a workable modern Samsung Note were out but we are about 6 months out for that and my v10 got the dreaded boot loop so I had to have a phone. Pixel is too expensive for what it offers, Apple is a scumbag company that I absolutely do not support and the s series from samsung doesn't interest me.
I am a big fan of removable batteries too despite not really using a phone long enough to need to replace the battery but I love aftermarket battery packs. LG is the only one to offer this and it looks like it might be the final high end model to feature this (the g6 looks to be water proof)
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Well good luck man hope it all works out for you. The no external memory support and the ridiculous price point for the pixel is why I didn't choose it.
To be honest I would not be using the v20 if a workable modern Samsung Note were out but we are about 6 months out for that and my v10 got the dreaded boot loop so I had to have a phone. Pixel is too expensive for what it offers, Apple is a scumbag company that I absolutely do not support and the s series from samsung doesn't interest me.
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I was skeptical about the pixel.. But I'll tell you this..just the pure android and smoothness of a pixel phone alone is worth it.. I had never run into a single issue with that phone. Always butter smooth and never had a fc on any apps

LULZ.

Zero lag here. 3 months in. I'm using the H990DS model with no bloatware.
I also find the camera to be great. Love the wide angle lens as well. Not sure what you're smoking..

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Zero lag here. 3 months in. I'm using the H990DS model with no bloatware.
I also find the camera to be great. Love the wide angle lens as well. Not sure what you're smoking..
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Camera great?. I s voted one of the worst camera of 2017 based on consumer..

Not sure why you think the camera takes poor quality pictures. This was taken with the wide angle camera (which most people think is generally terrible) in super low light, in situations where most phones would fail.
I'm also not sure what's bad about the UI? There are now a dozen or so themes that theme the actual system ui, and a trillion different launchers to theme your icons and app launcher.
No lag here. Over 60 user apps installed.
I use the second screen all the time for the quick flashlight access and for controlling Play Music when the phones docked in my car.
Your phone is either a dud, or you've got an app rampaging in the background somewhere.
Edit: ignore my broken TV. It somehow was cracked while wall mounting, and we handled it like it was the world's most valuable but brittle gem stone.

The second screen is practically a requirement for me after a year with the v10, the music controls without turning on the phone is such a fantastic feature along with the quick function shortcuts.
I am going to definitely miss it if the v series turns into a non removable battery phone or the note 8 grabs my attention.
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egren58 said:
I feel like this phone is a great phone for a small audience.. And that's for music lovers.. Other than that this phone is actually pretty bad... The camera is useless with all the grain.. The screen is horrible at night it bleeds out so much.. The UI is disgusting.. And OMG THE LAG IS ABSURD.. How they released a phone thats constatly lagging..
Tbh very disappointed I have never returned a phone in my life. And I buy almost every phone that's release... Now I have no option to switch to iphone 7 until I can find a pixel xl for a good deal...
T-Mobile 918h
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Honestly, just learn how to root it. It fixes every problem you have and more.

StarCommand said:
Honestly, just learn how to root it. It fixes every problem you have and more.
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I have been rooted. Since day one..

egren58 said:
I have been rooted. Since day one..
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If I can't root a phone I don't want it lol.
Also, maybe its the ROM your using, there are a lot of factors that play a part.

Why so quiet here?

Isn't it strange?
The S10e has highly favourable reviews and is supposed to become one of the best selling phones, maybe it could sell even better than the S10.
But it's very quiet around here with not much discussion compared to other phones.
And personally I've never seen an S10e in person even though I've seen plenty of S10 & S10+.
The S10+ Q&A forum has thousands of posts already, and there's 341 here.
So what's happening?

I would say s10e people go see s10 or s10+ forums as there is not much difference.

The S10e is ultimately the third tier device in the S10 line. Enthusiasts are more likely to be the ones to develop for devices in general, and enthusiasts are more likely to go for the first or second tier options.
We may get a small amount of development ported over from the other devices, but odds are this is about the amount of participation we're going to see here.

Maybe because people are satisfied with it. I honestly have no complaint about this device

Because it's locked down... Not much we can do really.
I'm very happy with this phone tho. Don't even need root anymore really....custom kernel would be nice but not likely to see that for long time if ever.
Good old locked af Sammy phones.

wywywywy said:
Isn't it strange?
The S10e has highly favourable reviews and is supposed to become one of the best selling phones, maybe it could sell even better than the S10.
But it's very quiet around here with not much discussion compared to other phones.
And personally I've never seen an S10e in person even though I've seen plenty of S10 & S10+.
The S10+ Q&A forum has thousands of posts already, and there's 341 here.
So what's happening?
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You're right, brother.
I've been a oneplus user for the past three devices, and this s10E really got my attention.
I ordered a G9700 version from ebay, should come next week
Surprised though there's little talk about it here.
What about TWRP? hmm
Could even survive without magisk nowadays as long as I use themes such as swift installer or even substratum ones.
This device seems unique for what it can offer, almost the same as their big brothers. With such a compact design,
Let's rock it!

jasons1004 said:
Because it's locked down... Not much we can do really.
I'm very happy with this phone tho. Don't even need root anymore really....custom kernel would be nice but not likely to see that for long time if ever.
Good old locked af Sammy phones.
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Not if you have the Exynos version ...

You guys have got valid points, however, even the Accessories section (which has nothing to do with being locked down) is super quiet.
The S10 and S10+ are locked down too, yet they still have big communities.
My worry is that the S10e is selling maybe nowhere near as well as people were expecting, possibly even a flop. This will be a problem for future official or non-official support.

No idea.
Major weirdness.

wywywywy said:
You guys have got valid points, however, even the Accessories section (which has nothing to do with being locked down) is super quiet.
The S10 and S10+ are locked down too, yet they still have big communities.
My worry is that the S10e is selling maybe nowhere near as well as people were expecting, possibly even a flop. This will be a problem for future official or non-official support.
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I don't remember where I read the news but I saw that S10+ and S10e both are outsellIing S10. I think this forum just needs more time

I typically get the highest model available when I purchase phones but there was a few things that made me get my s10e. The main thing is that I despised curved screen phones. That's why I've been away from Samsung for years now. Finally is that I do not want to deal with the experimental in screen finger print sensor.
After getting the s10e, The only downside is the absurdly narrow screen. While the screen size is actually larger than my older LG V20 actual usable screen space is less and I feel it when playing puzzle games. Other than that I never thought that I'd be so happy on a non rooted phone. I pretty much destroyed my LG V20 on sprint by installing the best rom that was available and which got rid of lots of things like visual voicemail and many other features.

esqueue said:
I typically get the highest model available when I purchase phones but there was a few things that made me get my s10e. The main thing is that I despised curved screen phones. That's why I've been away from Samsung for years now. Finally is that I do not want to deal with the experimental in screen finger print sensor.
After getting the s10e, The only downside is the absurdly narrow screen. While the screen size is actually larger than my older LG V20 actual usable screen space is less and I feel it when playing puzzle games. Other than that I never thought that I'd be so happy on a non rooted phone. I pretty much destroyed my LG V20 on sprint by installing the best rom that was available and which got rid of lots of things like visual voicemail and many other features. I mainly root to have access to free wifi hotspot and to my surprise, my s10e has no problems getting. There is absolutely no reason to root this device anymore.
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One word: ads. After being pushed onto an S8 when my OP6 broke, I couldn't believe how many ads there are spamming all over the place. It felt unusable. Adaway really spoiled me. At that point I rooted my S8 with Nougat.
There are still some drawbacks to rooting an SD S8 (random crashes and 80 percent battery), but it's still worth it IMO. Enough so that I didn't upgrade to the 10e, even though I like my wife's overall.
Oh, and Titanium Backup too.

I agree root was not necessarily so far. I am using Adguard VPN ad blocking, used ADB to remove bloatware and add some 3rd apps for gestures and other improvements. All ok for now.

root is no longer needed for blocking advertisements. you can use, Blokada, adhell3, Disconnect Pro and private Dns. I use Disconnect Pro in combination with Adguard dns. Dns over tls. perfect combination for adblocking with 0% battery drain

Xda isnt Poppin like it used to and the phone is so good, there's really nothing to complain about or anything. Ppl are just enjoying their phone
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I really wish I could use a custom ROM on this. I don't like using stock ROMs and haven't on a single smartphone I've owned... including my first, the Samsung Captivate. I'm currently in love with Resurrection Remix.

Not much to complain about so far. I was getting a bit fed up with the increasingly large screens and weight, so I decided to go for the 10e and so far it is a great phone.

Phh just ordered an s10e, that's great news for any aosp lovers.

There's not much to do having the Snap SoC(ks)
Still waiting for the promised supper-dupper night mode update, 4 months since purchasing my unlocked S10e and that's too long. Samsung is bombarding the market with so many cheap "A" models now, that they're forgetting their obligations to the owners of top priced galaxy 'battleships' or 'flagships',... whatever.
I like the S10e, but I'm beginning to regret not waiting for the OP7 Pro, they seem to be on top of updates/upgrades. I think I'll give OP7T Pro a try when it gets released in the fall.

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There's not much to do having the Snap SoC(ks)
Still waiting for the promised supper-dupper night mode update, 4 months since purchasing my unlocked S10e and that's too long. Samsung is bombarding the market with so many cheap "A" models now, that they're forgetting their obligations to the owners of top priced galaxy 'battleships' or 'flagships',... whatever.
I like the S10e, but I'm beginning to regret not waiting for the OP7 Pro, they seem to be on top of updates/upgrades. I think I'll give OP7T Pro a try when it gets released in the fall.
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I got around the night mode thing by installing a dark theme and using night mode for all my Google apps. Gives me about 85% night mode for everything.
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