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I want one, is it worth it?

I want one of these and I can go get one from my local staples. Is this tablet worth it?
I know we have root and such but is the tablet going to be fast enough to support 2.3 or 3.0 when it launches. I know its the dual core tegra but all the reviews say this thing is slow.
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its slow with the stock interface. once you root and replace that with zpad, its pretty zippy. ive got no regrets yet, and i almost constantly have regrets after spending a little cash on electronics.

I'm in the same boat... I've been looking for a tablet, non iPad, and saw this in the black friday ads for Staples. Just noticed that there is no price difference between now and those ads. $400. So I'm tempted to pick one up. I have a Epic 4g and enjoy how android 2.1 works so far. I think the hardware sounds good just hesitant because of software issues... but as much as I know those will be ironed out by the smart people on these forums. I may just pick one up tonight.

bmasephol said:
I'm in the same boat... I've been looking for a tablet, non iPad, and saw this in the black friday ads for Staples. Just noticed that there is no price difference between now and those ads. $400. So I'm tempted to pick one up. I have a Epic 4g and enjoy how android 2.1 works so far. I think the hardware sounds good just hesitant because of software issues... but as much as I know those will be ironed out by the smart people on these forums. I may just pick one up tonight.
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379 sears (thanksgiving, not black friday 7am-9am) source bfads.net, with 2 micro SD cards and a case.

I added a general FAQ here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842899
I tried to lay out some of the current pros and cons, so feel free to look it over. Everyone's needs are different. I happen to like mine and plan on keeping it.

i originally purchased one, then i was lucky to grab 2 more that were refurbs, and i have been using all the builds here plus ones i have been trying to get stable of my own, only to find that it is nearly impossible to truelly screw this thing up beyond repair, not saying it isnt possible, just saying it is hard to do it.
i like the rothnic builds as the zpad builds are based on hardware that is identical to the gtab, but sold under another name malata i think. that is not to say that all the hard work robeet has done is not great as his builds are highly stable as well. Great job to both guys.
i currently have 7 builds of my own. the first two are not based on zpad, which are the ones i am having a major issue in figuring out what i am screwing up. on the 5 other builds, i am using zpad as my base and adding a very trimmed version of andriod 2.2. i am trying to keep everything to only what works all the time everytime in my zpad builds, where the two non zpad builds are based on my own version of the kernal, could be my whole problem, but neither are stable yet. for me to release my 5 versions, small differences with how games load, flash, utube, and some office stuff...apks...would not help anyone as rothnics builds and those who helped him are superior to mine as of today. hopefully, i will figure out my culprit that is causing my issues within the builds.
i will only release what will work 100% of the time that i create, otherwise, i am only congesting the forum with useless crap and not actually helping anyone...

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379 sears (thanksgiving, not black friday 7am-9am) source bfads.net, with 2 micro SD cards and a case.
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The nearest sears that will probably carry it on thanksgiving is about 100 miles away... so I might just bite the $20 bullet and freebie SD cards and case and pick one up tonight.
If I ever get free time I'd love to get involved with the development... just always busy with other stuff.

The core of the tablet is a dual core 1Ghz Tegra 2 w/ 512 mb of ram. Its very close to the fastest ARM hardware running Android atm so 2.3 will be no problem. Nobody can tell whether 3.0 will require dramatically more powerful hardware but its doubtful considering 600mhz Droid 1s are running 2.2 just fine.
That said, the ability to support isn't the issue here. The problem is with official support from Viewsonic. They need to release their source for any devs to be able to get deep enough to upgrade to a new build (correct me if I'm wrong here). Barring that they would have to release their own version of updated Android. Considering the condition of the initial build I am not hopeful Viewsonic or the OEM will supply this support so long after purchase.
While not having the latest Android version is going to suck, its not going to reduce the functionality of the device. I think this hits a sweet spot atm. Its not nearly as expensive as the Galaxy Tab but it gives you something to mess around with until the real Tier 1 tablets come out next year. The Galaxy Tab is still build on the same non-tablet OS so investing $600 at this time doesn't seem wise. In addition, the powerful hardware keeps hope alive that this tablet can be brought up to snuff even in a year when we'll likely have 1.2 dual core 1gb tablets.

i do not think they will support it, or only for a very short duration, which is why i am trying to develop something.
according to a customer service person, it is cosmetic issues nothing highly important, which leaves me unsettled.

picked mine up today, with high hopes for this tegra chip... but so far viewsonic has managed to destroy what could and should be a sweet set up... havent been able to push a rom onto it yet, still looking to root but even still my EVO blows this thing out of the ocean, lets be honest here... did they pull this screen from some speak and spell from the 80's?
and you with guys with the epics are going to laugh when a movies playing on it
its late, so in the morning i'll get back with how it fairs with a root and rom dosage
ohh ya... whats with the constant wifi error? out of the box a wifi device should at least connect to WIFI, unless viewsonic was going for a true 80's speak and spell

Stopped at staples last night and grabbed one. I'm looking for an instant on web browser/video player. Coming from my epic the screen sucks but nothing I've seen compares to my epics screen. The stock device is pretty laggy but I'm about to flash a custom rom and try that out. I have 14 days to return and staples said they would take it back no questions asked. Ill post more later.

I think with the upgraded rom with the dell home and flash is great, and now that we have the full market I can't bring my self to return it. .. lol
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rodzero said:
its slow with the stock interface. once you root and replace that with zpad, its pretty zippy. ive got no regrets yet, and i almost constantly have regrets after spending a little cash on electronics.
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+1.
Get it at Sears for $340 with a $50 replacement plan. Can't go wrong there if you flash it and break it... No regrets here either. If you are like most of us cruising this forums for cool stuff, you will love.
Can't see myself owning and iPad and be just like everyone else. I have yet to see to Android devices (from Android fans) that look the same....

If you install all the fixs here this thing rocks.

mopar said:
If you install all the fixs here this thing rocks.
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- Returned 1st one after 2 days due to constant loops (wanted to exchange but no stock).
Lots of force closes with stock firmware + external sdcard / usb stick unrecognized.
- Picked up 2nd one and replaced with Zpad 1106 firmware:
* Very Zippy, have not experienced FC's so far.
* External sdcard / usb thumbdrive work fine.
- Now my son can have my old 12" Dell XT!

[Q] Still worth buying today?

Hey guys,
I'm looking to get an Android tablet for my girlfriend- she's no gamer or hacker, so doesn't have huge requirements. The one important one is being able to play Flash video well (she watches TV shows online). I've been shopping around, and it looks like I can get the original Transformer TF101 plus keyboard dock for the same price as the TF300 *without* dock.
How is the OG Transformer holding up these days? Is it still working fast enough to use as a daily browser, music listener and flash-player? Or would you recommend I skip up to the TF300, even though it means no keyboard?

Id go with the 300 the reboot issues that plauges the 101 would be infuriating for any one who isnt tech savy

mrevankyle said:
Id go with the 300 the reboot issues that plauges the 101 would be infuriating for any one who isnt tech savy
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Since when reboot issue's? Only i had is some times app crash but that's it
anyways 300 or 700.

Ive had my TF101 since last year, and bought my dad a TF300 about 2 months ago.
The TF300 is incredible. Even without keyboard (unless she'd want to do some work on it). Get it.
Oh, and TF300 is upgradable to JB straight out of the box.

I am working with my TF101 since February this year. I have JB on it using CM10 nightlies. The only issue is that flash player cannot be installed at this current time. However, netflix, crackle, and youtube work. I have not tried hulu or other video services because I have not paid for them. With the update to JB it had felt like a new device. So, for price, the TF101 with dock would be great if she decides to be on the move for over eight hours.
But on the flip side, the 300 or even the 700 would be a better buy. Since JB is an update right out of the box for the 300, you can rest assured that your device will stay current for at least that update. Plus, the way these dev forums go, you may even be able to upgrade past its life. As for the dock, I find it a blessing when I want to type a lot or enter complex passwords. Just the tab with a good case may be well enough.
Hope that helps and happy shopping.
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I have had no random reboots with the TF101 since I installed CM10 nightlies on it.

I'm still using my TF101 after all this time. Granted its rooted and flashed but I've had no problems with it. With Flash outside apps you could use a Browser like Maxthon which still has the option for working with Flash, then side loading the apk for her. Never had the random reboots with mine.
Then again out of the box maybe 300 is just easier to get going. /shrug
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IMO this device wouldn't serve well for someone non-technical, and it's not the fastest device. The biggest pros are the great battery life with the dock and the developer-friendliness.

i think its still worth it. i just got this one from a friend.

Honestly, at this point in time, I'd go for a Nexus 7..
(I actually jumped to the Note 10.1 but it sounds like your gf might enjoy the Nexus 7 more because it's a media, read/watch stuff kind of tablet.)

Never had issues with mine tf101 (rooted) and also dont remember ever having lack of performance. All games i tried work perfect (THD versions), xept that online shadowgun wich just says it only work on tegra3(as expected).
As you say she is not hacker, so most likely you will have to manually install flash (its not supported anymore, boo). It works quite well on mine, even to play flash games where you need to click on things, tho its hard to hit small ones. Flash video works fine (twitch.tv and youtube).
Overall you probably should get tf300, as it is more powerful and can be updated to JellyBean from stock. There is some guides how to install flash to JB.
I got 101 because it have 2 USB in dock and that distinctive look - i mean that textured back and goldy border, it does not look like other tablets or netbooks. I just fell in love with it
One thing that you might look upon - i weights more than 600grams that may be little heavy for woman. My sis hands get tired after playing for some time (tho she plays that gyroscope games where you need to dance shamanic rituals with the tab, so)

[Q] need some good advice

hey xda whats up! im kevin. ive been looking for a decent tablet under 250$ to get as a gift for my sis for christmas. im looking at the tf700 n would like to know if you all think it would be a good choice at that price range. my sis has a 18month old n she will likely use it for watching video on youtube n checking here facebook n those kinda things. ive rooted n installed several different roms n kernels on a variety of phone devices so its nothing i cant do to this tablet. but i would like to hear from you all as well whats a solid rom n kernel to throw on here? stability n performance being my main concerns.
ive read the stock rom is kinda sluggish in some regards. web browsing being pretty important. its been a while since ive done any custom rom stuff so excuse my ignorance. i hear about data2sd n browser2ram. im not real sure if those apps are still something i should look at or not. im just kinda reading thru old posts. just looking for a nice set-up to put on it or if there is a better option in terms of devices in my budget let me know that as well please. i dont have 500$ to drop on a new galaxy but i want to get her something nice that fills her needs. i know its xda but what do you all think about the windows rt options? im a little out of the loop on mobile device os's n whats the best thing going right now.
ive got a asus gaming laptop n its been pretty awesome imo so thought asus would be a good brand to go with but im most interested in getting the best thing for the money i can. ive never used windows rt but i have had iphones that were jailbroken n had fun with them as well. my sister isnt the type to mess with customization just wants one she can use for her typical internet stuff. email, facebook, entertainment on the go for her kid n stuff.
the help n advice is really appreciated gang. thanks for taking the time to steer me in the right direction

I wouldn't go Windows RT simply because the selection of apps for those devices is extremely limited.
The TF700 on stock is extremly sluggish, but pretty good on CROMi-X (which would be my first choice for a user who doesn't want to deal with bugs, updates, new versions etc), CROMBi-KK or ZOMBi-X. CM11 runs pretty well on it too.
Data2sd is already too involved for someone who doesn't know what it is and how it works (take out the microSD and all your data is gone....) IMHO.
My advice would be to get her the TF701, currently for $280 without the dock on Amazon. And you don't even have to custom rom it. It's great out of the box and for that price I doubt you find something better currently.
Or try to find a used or refurb Nexus 10....

berndblb said:
I wouldn't go Windows RT simply because the selection of apps for those devices is extremely limited.
The TF700 on stock is extremly sluggish, but pretty good on CROMi-X (which would be my first choice for a user who doesn't want to deal with bugs, updates, new versions etc), CROMBi-KK or ZOMBi-X. CM11 runs pretty well on it too.
Data2sd is already too involved for someone who doesn't know what it is and how it works (take out the microSD and all your data is gone....) IMHO.
My advice would be to get her the TF701, currently for $280 without the dock on Amazon. And you don't even have to custom rom it. It's great out of the box and for that price I doubt you find something better currently.
Or try to find a used or refurb Nexus 10....
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right on. i really appreciate the heads up. like i said she doesnt get into the whole mod scene n just wants something that works well. im looking around on ebay n the nexus 10 seems about in the same price range as the tf701. either one you think is better? i found a refurb tf701 for 250 n a good condition used nexus 10 for 257.

954kevin said:
right on. i really appreciate the heads up. like i said she doesnt get into the whole mod scene n just wants something that works well. im looking around on ebay n the nexus 10 seems about in the same price range as the tf701. either one you think is better? i found a refurb tf701 for 250 n a good condition used nexus 10 for 257.
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I don't own a Nexus, so I can't compare. They are both great tablets with the Nexus having the advantage in updates to Lollipop and the TF701 offering a microSD slot. The latter is a deal breaker for me - don't know what your sister's needs and wants are...

berndblb said:
I don't own a Nexus, so I can't compare. They are both great tablets with the Nexus having the advantage in updates to Lollipop and the TF701 offering a microSD slot. The latter is a deal breaker for me - don't know what your sister's needs and wants are...
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thanks, ill go for the tf701. sd slot is pretty nice. im gonna buy her a nice 128g 10 card as well. storage for video n such. just curious, would you recommend putting a different rom on the 701? i know you said it was good right outta tha box but if there is a better rom to put on it i dont mind doing it for her.

954kevin said:
thanks, ill go for the tf701. sd slot is pretty nice. im gonna buy her a nice 128g 10 card as well. storage for video n such. just curious, would you recommend putting a different rom on the 701? i know you said it was good right outta tha box but if there is a better rom to put on it i dont mind doing it for her.
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CROMi-X 7.0.3
pershoots CM11 also is very good. There is an unofficial AOKP rom too that I have not tried. Other than that there is not much dev love for this tablet [emoji25]
You'll find them here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf701/development

[Q] Is this tablet worth purchasing?

I'm looking for a replacement for my daughters current tablet. She has a 2012 Nexus 7.
Would the TF300T still be a worthwhile upgrade? They're selling rather inexpensively for $100 refurbished.
I know cm has a 12.1 rom for it, how does the tablet run with Lollipop?
Thanks!

Don't. It has lollipop but the whole thing is very slow.
Chris
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Runs well on KatKiss Lollipop and Katsmallow, but don't know how it compares with Nexus 2012.
Read the comments in development section for ROMs

I have both the Nexus 7 (2012) and the TF300T. My Nexus 7 doesn't get used as much these days, since it has a lot of lag with lollipop on it. I did turn off a lot of sync options on it and that helped with some of the lag.
I mostly use my Transformer. With Katkiss lollipop on it, it is very responsive and works much better than the Nexus 7. I haven't tried katkiss marshmallow on it yet, but the fact that there is still development support going on in this forum, it has a good amount of life left to it. Katkiss seems to have better features than CM 12.1.

Thanks for the information guys. I appreciate it!

Works great w/ katkiss use it everyday. It has a tegra3 GPU and over clock's the 4-core CPU flawlessly (1.7 GHz?)
Sorry if dbl post

cg.voabc said:
I'm looking for a replacement for my daughters current tablet. She has a 2012 Nexus 7.
Would the TF300T still be a worthwhile upgrade? They're selling rather inexpensively for $100 refurbished.
I know cm has a 12.1 rom for it, how does the tablet run with Lollipop?
Thanks!
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I have been using my TF300T for 3-1/2 years now. Every so often I get the bug to shop for a new tablet. After trying a few of the "Latest technology" I have concluded that there is nothing on the market that tops this tablet. I am currently running the latest Katshmallow OS (010). If I had a need for another one I would buy it without a second thought.
I am sure this will not always be the case, and I don't do any heavy gaming or video viewing so results may vary depending on how you use it. But for now and given the price I would say, "Go for it!"
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chrmhoffmann said:
Don't. It has lollipop but the whole thing is very slow.
Chris
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Haven't found this to be the case at all. Do you even own this tablet? Just curious.

Yes, I own the tablet and I am the cyanogenmod device maintainer.
I think that this device is utter crap and there are gazillions of tablets which work much better than this one.
If keyboard is a must, then you have much less choices I agree.
This tablet (like the nexus 7 (old version), and other transformers) suffer from underperforming nand flash storage. Just try to Google it. My guess is that katkiss and other roms perform better than CM because they overclock and because they switch off the sync after writes, so the nand performance issues show a bit less frequently.
(No criticism: katkiss is very well maintained - he does a great job and its maybe the only way to keep the device usable).
Chris
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chrmhoffmann said:
Yes, I own the tablet and I am the cyanogenmod device maintainer.
I think that this device is utter crap and there are gazillions of tablets which work much better than this one.
If keyboard is a must, then you have much less choices I agree.
This tablet (like the nexus 7 (old version), and other transformers) suffer from underperforming nand flash storage. Just try to Google it. My guess is that katkiss and other roms perform better than CM because they overclock and because they switch off the sync after writes, so the nand performance issues show a bit less frequently.
(No criticism: katkiss is very well maintained - he does a great job and its maybe the only way to keep the device usable).
Chris
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I can google any device on the market and find negative reviews about it. But, in 3 years of using this tablet, I have been very pleased with it, at least since I moved away from stock, (which I did within a month of purchasing it). And since Katshmallow came out I have been even more impressed with the performance of this "underperforming" device.
I am also aware of the common complaints against it. Whatever the reasons for my personal experience with it, I have no major complaints against it. It runs all of the apps I use quite well with no lag or crashes. I watch Netflix and Hulu videos on it without any stuttering or buffering. It syncs with my Bluetooth devices and the audio works well. I don't do any gaming with the exception of HayDay and Pyramid Solitaire, so possibly that makes a difference.
Maybe I got lucky and have an exception to the rule. I'm sure there are other newer tablets on the market that outperform it. But as it stands now, based on my personal experience, if this tablet dies today, I would do everything I could to find another of the same model.
On another note, I appreciate the development done with CyangenMod for all Android devices. Without that development, a lot of the other custom ROM's would not exist. Thank you for your contributions to that development.
All of that said, I guess we just have to agree to disagree about the TF300T.

Well I bit the bullet and purchased the Lenovo Tab2 A10-70F tablet for both kids. They won't get them until Christmas but I've been setting them up and upgraded them to Lollipop. My experience so far is that it's a nice tablet. I get the feeling this will be to the kids what the 2012 Nexus was to me when I first got it which was an amazing tablet!
Thanks for the input guys; I do appreciate it!

chrmhoffmann said:
Yes, I own the tablet and I am the cyanogenmod device maintainer.
I think that this device is utter crap and there are gazillions of tablets which work much better than this one.
If keyboard is a must, then you have much less choices I agree.
This tablet (like the nexus 7 (old version), and other transformers) suffer from underperforming nand flash storage. Just try to Google it. My guess is that katkiss and other roms perform better than CM because they overclock and because they switch off the sync after writes, so the nand performance issues show a bit less frequently.
(No criticism: katkiss is very well maintained - he does a great job and its maybe the only way to keep the device usable).
Chris
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I was about to pull the trigger on one of these that includes the keyboard on Ebay for $100 until I read this. What tablet would you recommend that fits this criteria:
1. $150 or less
2. 9-10" screen
3. 16GB+ storage

mikecantreed said:
I was about to pull the trigger on one of these that includes the keyboard on Ebay for $100 until I read this. What tablet would you recommend that fits this criteria:
1. $150 or less
2. 9-10" screen
3. 16GB+ storage
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I stand by my previous posts and say that for $100.00 you can't go wrong with this tablet. And having the keyboard as well makes it an even better buy. I would pay twice that without hesitation. It will top anything new on the market at much higher prices. The caveat is you need to use a custom ROM to see the best performance. I highly recommend KatKiss 6.0 I have been using it for a couple of months now and have no regrets whatsoever. Prior to that I used KatKiss 5.1 and was quite pleased with it too.
The bottom line is unless somebody uses a tablet regularly there is no way they can give an accurate review on it. I've used this table for 2-1/2 years REGULARLY AND DAILY and other than the short time I was on stock I have never regretted buying it.

pastorbob62 said:
I stand by my previous posts and say that for $100.00 you can't go wrong with this tablet. And having the keyboard as well makes it an even better buy. I would pay twice that without hesitation. It will top anything new on the market at much higher prices. The caveat is you need to use a custom ROM to see the best performance. I highly recommend KatKiss 6.0 I have been using it for a couple of months now and have no regrets whatsoever. Prior to that I used KatKiss 5.1 and was quite pleased with it too.
The bottom line is unless somebody uses a tablet regularly there is no way they can give an accurate review on it. I've used this table for 2-1/2 years REGULARLY AND DAILY and other than the short time I was on stock I have never regretted buying it.
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Good deal thanks. Do you think it's worth paying an extra $50 for the TF-700t?

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Good deal thanks. Do you think it's worth paying an extra $50 for the TF-700t?
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Absolutely not! I bought a TF700 for my wife about a year after buying the TF300T thinking I would be getting a faster and more capable tablet. After about a month of frustration she tossed it aside and went back to her Kindle Fire HD because it was a total piece of crap, crashing constantly and locking up at every turn. . I tried several different custom ROM's with no improvement. I finally tried KatKiss 5.1 v30 and it was usable but it sits on my nightstand gathering dust. I thought I may have gotten a lemon but after I read through pages of posts and it seemed to be issues that are very common on the TF700.

It's an amazing tablet, thanks a lot to Katkiss it is running as smooth as ever but personally I must say the tablet factor for me has worn out it's welcome it's great for consuming stuff but my next "tablet" is probably going to the SP 4 but not before MS has fixed their software bugs of course.
One thing that still stands out for me is the amazing batterly life and Asus is probably one of just a few companies having done the keyboard attachment thing right. I cringe everytime when I'm looking a t Google's pixel C attempt I mean wtf 3 "slides" to position this thing? lol and at that price I'd rather pay twice as much for me the SP 4.
The screen resolution is just decent but if you buy it make sure to root it, unlock the bootloader and install Katkiss it's the best available ROM (thanks so much) and set the cpu speed to around 1600, otherwise typing won't be a good experience. Oh and make sure to let it run out of battery after the first full charge.

yeah, asus has produced fairly good products overall in the past ~20 yrs. more often than not they do a good job at introducing proper 'consumer demo' additions to products that usually lead into the next gen. cycle, preferably.

pastorbob62 said:
I can google any device on the market and find negative reviews about it. But, in 3 years of using this tablet, I have been very pleased with it, at least since I moved away from stock, (which I did within a month of purchasing it). And since Katshmallow came out I have been even more impressed with the performance of this "underperforming" device.
I am also aware of the common complaints against it. Whatever the reasons for my personal experience with it, I have no major complaints against it. It runs all of the apps I use quite well with no lag or crashes. I watch Netflix and Hulu videos on it without any stuttering or buffering. It syncs with my Bluetooth devices and the audio works well. I don't do any gaming with the exception of HayDay and Pyramid Solitaire, so possibly that makes a difference.
Maybe I got lucky and have an exception to the rule. I'm sure there are other newer tablets on the market that outperform it. But as it stands now, based on my personal experience, if this tablet dies today, I would do everything I could to find another of the same model.
On another note, I appreciate the development done with CyangenMod for all Android devices. Without that development, a lot of the other custom ROM's would not exist. Thank you for your contributions to that development.
All of that said, I guess we just have to agree to disagree about the TF300T.
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I tend to agree, but as you said, without the stock ROM. Before, with the stock OS it was almost unusable. Now with
KatKiss MM 6.0 I'm happy with the table. It isn't as snappy as my wifes new Galaxy Tab 10.1, but it is good enough
till I can replace it with a better model.

Fire HD 10 further updates?

Are there still updates coming to the hd 10 ? or is 5.6.0.1 the last one?

spectrax1 said:
Are there still updates coming to the hd 10 ? or is 5.6.0.1 the last one?
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Hi,
The latest update is 5.6.1.0.
And, I don't think so. Even 2015 devices were updated to 5.6.1.0, so I think that Amazon have a lot more updates coming on.

Supersonic27543 said:
Hi,
The latest update is 5.6.1.0.
And, I don't think so. Even 2015 devices were updated to 5.6.1.0, so I think that Amazon have a lot more updates coming on.
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Their updates have been few and far between lately. It would seem they have a big problem on thier hands. The last time this type of root happened, they abandoned the device. The HD 8.9 for example in my opinion was likely their best tablet yet aside from the HD 10. Every version of that tablet can be rooted and unlocked. They eventually just gave up on it. I predict the same might come of the HD 10. But I hope not because these tablets are actually quite badass.
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DragonFire1024 said:
Their updates have been few and far between lately. It would seem they have a big problem on thier hands. The last time this type of root happened, they abandoned the device. The HD 8.9 for example in my opinion was likely their best tablet yet aside from the HD 10. Every version of that tablet can be rooted and unlocked. They eventually just gave up on it. I predict the same might come of the HD 10. But I hope not because these tablets are actually quite badass.
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And if we unlock it, we don't need to worry about updates! :laugh:

i mean, is there any info from amazon whether they will update the hd 10 or they will stop rolling out updates?!

spectrax1 said:
i mean, is there any info from amazon whether they will update the hd 10 or they will stop rolling out updates?!
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What features do you feel the hd10 is lacking?
Security updates?
New features?

adm1jtg said:
What features do you feel the hd10 is lacking?
Security updates?
New features?
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yeah, i would like some enhanced software updates for a smooth experience. ofc security updates aswell. But the biggest question is, will they stick to android 5 lolipop. Or will they bring a new HD10 in future with android 6 or higher.

spectrax1 said:
yeah, i would like some enhanced software updates for a smooth experience. ofc security updates aswell. But the biggest question is, will they stick to android 5 lolipop. Or will they bring a new HD10 in future with android 6 or higher.
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My personal opinion is if they were going to move the hd line to anything higher then LP they would have already. I seriously doubt we will ever see a new android version on our units, you have to remember the average user of these tablets probably doesn't even know what lollipop is. They use the tablet as is, they like the amazon interface and amazon uses it as a tool to sell more product ad services.
Said another way the business model amazon uses for these tablets means from their point of view there is no need to update anything except basic performance enhancements and such. In their eyes it was never intended to be used as a pure android tablet. I would guess they lose money on every tablet they sell based solely on hardware costs, they make the money back in sales and services. If they ever do update things it will likely NOT be to get a new version or to add new features but to lock down the tablets even more so that you have no choice but to do things "the amazon way"
Just my opinion

adm1jtg said:
My personal opinion is if they were going to move the hd line to anything higher then LP they would have already. I seriously doubt we will ever see a new android version on our units, you have to remember the average user of these tablets probably doesn't even know what lollipop is. They use the tablet as is, they like the amazon interface and amazon uses it as a tool to sell more product ad services.
Said another way the business model amazon uses for these tablets means from their point of view there is no need to update anything except basic performance enhancements and such. In their eyes it was never intended to be used as a pure android tablet. I would guess they lose money on every tablet they sell based solely on hardware costs, they make the money back in sales and services. If they ever do update things it will likely NOT be to get a new version or to add new features but to lock down the tablets even more so that you have no choice but to do things "the amazon way"
Just my opinion
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Enforcing the point. When I contact them, they would not even admit that this is an Android tablet. (They keep saying, "This is not Android, this is FireOS"), and rolling out any major updates will make it harder for them to keep the system their way. Considering the new features that come with 6.0, they will have to rewrite their whole system. So... I don't think they will update it beyond 5.1.1.