Seems to be the culprit of the lag. Any way of turning this off?
I think that's associated with the "ASUS keyboard". If you make "Android keyboard" the active input method, there's no suggstions.
Settings>language and input>whichever keyboard you are using>settings>word suggestion settings ... uncheck the ones you dont want.
Suggestion can be good sometimes, only when it's names or abbreviated words does it screw up. I wish there was a way to add words that aren't in the suggestion so next time it doesn't mess up.
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Suggestion can be good sometimes, only when it's names or abbreviated words does it screw up. I wish there was a way to add words that aren't in the suggestion so next time it doesn't mess up.
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I thought that's what the "user dictionary" was for? Maybe that's only good for the correction piece.
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I thought that's what the "user dictionary" was for? Maybe that's only good for the correction piece.
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You can add words to the custom dictionary by long-pressing the word as spelled at the left of the suggestions list when using thumb keyboard. This action didn't seem to work with the ASUS keyboard though.
Turning off the settings in language input options does not help...I still see the suggestions, any work around to keep the suggestions off?
oh--it works whe i turned off asus keyboard after carefully reading the post again----thanks
This is a thread for people testing TouchPal's beta. This is not an "applying for beta" thread, if you don't have it installed, you're in the wrong place.
From my PM, I got the following:
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** Feedback **
The main goal of having beta testing is to collect valuable feedback. Your feedback is important to us! To submit your feedback, please email to (removing address to prevent spamming).
Besides TouchPal Keyboard, TouchPal Dialer is another app that helps you find contacts quicky in T9 keypad, display caller location, and much more. Search "TouchPal Dialer" in Andorid market and it is free!
Again, sincere thanks from TouchPal team!
Best regards,
Jessica Wu
TouchPal
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Personally, I'm having some luck emailing Jessica (and got a reply), but also having a lot of bounces. I'll try to get a note through to CooTek that I started this thread.
I'll post my email & reply in a moment.
oops - double posted. sorry.
What I sent earlier today:
Only been playing around 30 minutes, so will try to send a longer one after using a few days, but some quick thoughts:
- I kept typing "This is a test" to see if the keyboard would learn. I know on Swiftkey (which I own) that the first time I type it, it's the default next time (ie, when I type "This" then "is" "a" "test" will all be top suggestions in that order.
On TouchPal, the word "Test" didn't show the first couple times, then it did show on the right, and slowly moved to the left of suggestions - so I think it's learning. I don't know how the settings are, but might need some tweaking.
- With tracing turned on, you obviously can't slide down on letters to get alternate symbols But holding down works just fine. Likewise, with tracing on, you don't get to see the predicted next word until you hit a space.
The problem with that - with tracing keyboards I usually do trace-trace-trace, never hitting the space bar. Spaces are auto-entered. To get the next-word predition, I have to do trace-space (see if the word I want is on the list & if not go back to tracing). I'll have to try this for a few days, but right now it's faster to just trace the next word I want then hit the space & see if the word I want is up there.
On, with tracing on, no idea how to change keyboard layouts.
- Toolbar area, please change the buttons. Make the language one be settings with one click & language with 2 clicks. I don't need another settings button where words will be. Likewise, I don't need a tutorial button there. I do like the middle buttons for cut/copy/arrows. Maybe a button to turn tracing on/off or change layouts?
- Percise mode. One of the BIGGEST things I use in SlideIT is the ABC/Sliding button so I can turn off tracing and go to exact input. Very useful for web page addresses, user name, password, names - anything where you temp. need your exact clicks. Maybe make your TouchPal symbol a toggle to turn this mode on & off.
- Is it me, or is the bottom left A/Book button the same as the Shift button?
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Thanks for the feedback! Here're some quick response:
On TouchPal, the word "Test" didn't show the first couple times, then it did show on the right, and slowly moved to the left of suggestions - so I think it's learning. I don't know how the settings are, but might need some tweaking.
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Please note that in the example, "a" is followed by "test". There are many possible words after "a", so inputting "a test" for once doesn't necessarily mean you will have "a test" in the next time. If "test" is promoted too fast, this would be a disturbing option. If you try some other combination, such as "This is a quick test", I believe "test" will be immediately promoted after you input "quick".
The problem with that - with tracing keyboards I usually do trace-trace-trace, never hitting the space bar. Spaces are auto-entered. To get the next-word predition, I have to do trace-space (see if the word I want is on the list & if not go back to tracing). I'll have to try this for a few days, but right now it's faster to just trace the next word I want then hit the space & see if the word I want is up there.
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That's true. Because we need to give you an option to change the traced word first.
On, with tracing on, no idea how to change keyboard layouts.
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Slide from the toolbar button, such as shift key.
- Percise mode. One of the BIGGEST things I use in SlideIT is the ABC/Sliding button so I can turn off tracing and go to exact input. Very useful for web page addresses, user name, password, names - anything where you temp. need your exact clicks. Maybe make your TouchPal symbol a toggle to turn this mode on & off.
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You do have such a toggle button on the left-bottom-corner with A and a book (indicating dictionary). Is it not obvious enough? Do you have a better suggestion?
My verdict.
I like it but currently swype is better.
Improvements
* the ability to add words to dictionary by manually typing it.
* Auto correct is to sensitive. A slight delay when typing gives you an extra letter. swype is smoother.
* auto capitalisation after fullstop
* symbols done the usual way, its a nice idea but annoying when having to scroll through pages, try to add more on each page.
to be honest i thought i would type this with TouchPal so i could see bugs whilst typing, and I'm starting to like it. autocorrect the only annoyance
Swyped from my MIUI Galaxy S II
dh2311 said:
* the ability to add words to dictionary by manually typing it.
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As far as I can tell, it already does that. Type a word (no matter whether you are in dictionary mode or not), and next type you are typing it it will suggest the word. Or when swiping it next time, it will also come up.
My comments:
I agree with most of the things that are posted here. I had one crash of touchpal today, it occured while i tapped and hold the backspace key to get rid of a few lines of text. Touchpal closed and didn't give me an option to send a crash log, unfortunately. Tried it a few times more, and sometimes when "backspacing" a lot of text, it will crash. Pretty reproducible.
I just don't completely understand the dictionary button, I don't find a difference in behavior whether it's turned on or off?
And when clicking a word (that was a mistake), it would be neat if other suggestions would come up so you can easily correct it, like swype does.
Thusfar, I think SlideIT (my normal keyboard) is better. My big thing is wanting the next word suggestion but I can't see an easy way of doing it and suggesting fixes for the Slide.
My only thought so far would be to split the suggestion line and make the first 2-3 suggestions fixes for the current word and then the next 2-3 words suggestions for the next word. Color code them so you know which are which.
I suppose you could also do two lines and let the user decide which one or both they want to see.
I will keep this one as my default for at least a week to see how it goes. I've found some other differences that would require adjustment. Spacing particularly going from single taps to tracing and back seems to be a bit inconsistent.
For a beta version, it's running pretty smooth. Suggestions and improvements can always be added
I was trying to type 'sim' today and it absolutely would not let me. When I hit the s key, it typed an a. No amount of tweaking would work. If I managed to get the s to work, I'd type an i and then tried to type the m, but it automatically inserted 'sin', and would not let me type 'sim'. Very frustrating.
Plus, there is a typo - I can't find it now, but somewhere the word 'editing' is misspelled 'editting' (two t's).
That reminds me - any way to remove a word entered by accident?
This app makes me miss Ultra Keyboard, wonder how he's doing. That was the one that tried to cram in every dang option from every keyboard out there. I seem to remember that the tracing was pretty bad at getting the correct word, but sure had a lot of options. Don't think it had next word prediction though.
This is my review I posted on reddit
Here is my review after ~1 hour of playing with it
I know I can come off as bashing this, but I'm not. I'm just giving my honest, personnal impression of this beta. I'll also be comparing it to swype only since it's its main competitor
PROS
- The install was flawless (no registration or anything for now). Swype is annoying for this, particularly when it fails to generate license or w/e. Flashing new roms regularly on my phone, I've had a good share of failed installs of swype. Pain in the ass to remove as it's usually a system app (not uninstallable without Root explorer/Titanium Backup/etc.)
- I haven't seen crashes/bugs
- It has been fully responsive without a hint of slowdown unlike swype (sometimes I get a slight lag on swype)
CONS
- I couldn't find the "blank keyboard" shown in the video. I'm thinking it was just a way for them to show you can type blind with the keyboard
- The predictions are pretty bad for short words (2-4 letters). Swype is also not so great at this, but usually better
- The default dictionary seems like it needs much more training than swype. I frequently flash new roms on my phone and usually I barely have to train swype to get to a satisfactory level when typing. This wasn't the case. I'd say swype predicts correctly about 70-80% of my words out of the box while Touchpal is probably around 50-70%.
SWYPE VS TOUCHPAL
Here is some unscientific tests I did with a few sentences with both keyboards out of the box. Using "swype" method and not tapping amongst the suggestions (letting the keyboard pick its best guess)
"Why are you so mad?"
* TOUCHPAL: Whiff ate youtube sop mad?
* SWYPE: Why are you so mad?
"Reddit is the place to be"
* TOUCHPAL: Reaffirm its the place to be
* SWYPE: Freddie is the place to be
"This is a test of an android keyboard"
* TOUCHPAL: This its the testy of android keyboard
* SWYPE: This is a test of an android keyboard
"Let's do one more test for Reddit"
* TOUCHPAL: Lewis dull one mower test for restitution
* SWYPE: Let's do over more test for refit
TL;DR
Promising but swype still far "better". I'm hoping for improvement as I hate Swype installation.
i agree with what you say, TouchPals correction is poor, tries too hard to find what you're trying to say, shouldn't try to lengthen words, just ends up guessing words that begin around where you started. its a good idea but flawed by its predictions. shouldn't go longer than amount of letters you stopped on
Swyped from my MIUI Galaxy S II
Quick questions:
Is it me or with tracing on, is there a way to quickly change keyboard layouts (from full keys to TouchPal+ to T9)?
Is there a way to do tracing while in TouchPal+ mode (2 letters per key)?
After using this for a while, I agree with a lot of the comments here.
1. The auto-correction is too sensitive. Always giving me words that I am NOT often using even as I swype over and over again.
2. I cannot seem to swype words like "Haha" "Hehe" "Lol". Can't even seem to add them to dictionary. It never seems to learn that I like to use those words often.
3. I set my Keyboard Layout in Portrait to FULL QWERTY. When I am on an active telephone call and I want to use the keyboard, it will auto switch to 12-Key PhonePad for me.
So for now, I am still sticking to Swype app. =) Oh I hope there's a quick way to tap the to have a smiley inserted immediately rather than tapping that Smiley > Going into a Smiley Menu > Tap a Smiley. Swype can do it it in one tap of a button.
Currently reinstalling after a reflash earlier but i've got to say what stood out the most (negative) was the desire to lengthen words. I understand that its a great feature to type "ackn" and get "acknowledge" but so many times i'm trying to write something simple and the first suggestion will always be much longer and obscure (can't remember the one earlier for "hey").
Maybe some sort of gesture to let the keyboard know you're trying to write a longer word using less keystrokes? I don't know how many words start with double letters, maybe a quick double tap on the first letter before sliding? Trying to think of situations where that would be worse than what we're experiencing.
Given that this is a phone/tablet keyboard and most users right now are on phones using this for texting and/or quicker e-mails, I think you are more likely to see people simplifying their speech automatically rather than trying to swype a really long word like "got it" instead of "acknowledge"
Will post more meaningful thoughts when I get a chacne to play with it some more
2 things that really bug me:
- not able to correct a word when i tap on it. have to delete the whole word and re-swipe it.
- not able to input custom words.
yeah.. tried to send feedback via the email they gave and it bounced back twice. :l
TouchPal, it was doing great until it comes to learning new words. The promotion system sucks as the word I really use often move very slowly to the blue recommendation box. For those who are fast typist, use super simplified words, this app is not meant for you. Its a damn slow learner. But can be fixed if they implement SMS learning in it. Plus, if I edit some existing word, it will just create another new word, without taking the existed word into account. Even if I just want to add an -es into it.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
Really annoying to hit space after every word. Especially with a small space bar. Need continuous swyping!
Samsung Captivate using XDA App
No french dictionnary
thanks for adding me to the beta team.
i could use it for daily use if the german dict would also be released. so i only can test a few sentence because i only use english 5% of my typings.
a must have for me also is a configurable smiley button. want to change some smilies.
the thing i also miss is: when typing some words, and you want to correct a word typed 3 words before, that you put the cursor somewhere into the word and get the correction list as in smartkeyboard pro.
i would also like to see the cursor arrows all the time like in smartkeyboard pro. optionally.
sent from my SGSII via T*patalk
I'd like to add this in case any Epic 4G users happen to read. I found that TouchPal affected my hardware keyboard by making the 'fn' and 'shift' keys lose their functionality. I was unable to capitalize letters and make symbols with it. Was fine before I installed TouchPal, and it was fixed after I uninstalled TouchPal. Tried re-installing it several times to see if it was just a mishap, but after 6 times the problem was always there.
Current build is Froyo 2.2.1, [EC05]SyndicateROM Frozen 1.2, Twilight 1.1.1 Kernel.
Other than that, some very nice features. Love the up/down slide on keys for capital letter/number/symbol shortcut. Would love if a future version had full text shortcuts when pressing they key and scrolling up, down, left or right. For now though, no go. I need my slide-down keyboard :3
In many apps, when you type into an input box android will underscore mistyped words with a line. The problem is when typing in a different language, Spanish for example, it will underline every single word even if spelled correctly and it's kind of annoying. I know the language can be changed but it's really not feasible to go an change the system language every time I type something.
This feature is essentially not needed since every keyboard app, including LG's own has built-in spell-check and spelling suggestions. The G3 and G4 had an option to turn off native spell check but I can't seem to find it on the V10. I wonder which genius at LG decided to remove this option.
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In many apps, when you type into an input box android will underscore mistyped words with a line. The problem is when typing in a different language, Spanish for example, it will underline every single word even if spelled correctly and it's kind of annoying. I know the language can be changed but it's really not feasible to go an change the system language every time I type something.
This feature is essentially not needed since every keyboard app, including LG's own has built-in spell-check and spelling suggestions. The G3 and G4 had an option to turn off native spell check but I can't seem to find it on the V10. I wonder which genius at LG decided to remove this option.
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its on keyboard Settings, in your keyboard, press Settings, then scroll down to Smart Input, there you can disable Word suggestion and Auto correction...hope it helps :fingers-crossed:
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its on keyboard Settings, in your keyboard, press Settings, then scroll down to Smart Input, there you can disable Word suggestion and Auto correction...hope it helps :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks, but the keyboard feature is actually the feature I do want. I was referring to the actual input box, in certain apps the system underlines words that it thinks are spelled incorrectly, akin to how desktop computer underlines typos.
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sentry07 said:
Thanks, but the keyboard feature is actually the feature I do want. I was referring to the actual input box, in certain apps the system underlines words that it thinks are spelled incorrectly, akin to how desktop computer underlines typos.
See attached photo.
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well...ive all that disable lol
Go Language & keyboard -> LG Keyboard -> Auto Correction -.> off (if you have multiple languages setting for your keyboard, there would be choice for each language)