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Hello. I bought an AT&T variant of the S6. I haven't had a carrier branded phone in a long time (as my signature shows), so I was surprised at the bloat, not only from AT&T, but from Samsung. This leads to my question...
Would it benefit me to return my AT&T phone and buy an international version? My concerns are as follows:
1. I'm only slightly worried about the LTE bands/IMEI issues since I use Straight Talk mainly (I'm only on AT&T long enough for them to unlock my phone [60 days]). I'm wondering if Straight Talk would even understand the issues with the IMEI not being registered, or if I'd be stuck on AT&T paying a higher prepaid amount.
2. For those who have bought an international version, what kind of charger came with it? I asked an eBay seller who has several 920I's listed if it comes with a Samsung U.S. fast charger, and they said 'no'. If not, I guess we're on our own to buy a charger/fast charger?
Any answers would be much appreciated.
wvcadle said:
Hello. I bought an AT&T variant of the S6. I haven't had a carrier branded phone in a long time (as my signature shows), so I was surprised at the bloat, not only from AT&T, but from Samsung. This leads to my question...
Would it benefit me to return my AT&T phone and buy an international version? My concerns are as follows:
1. I'm only slightly worried about the LTE bands/IMEI issues since I use Straight Talk mainly (I'm only on AT&T long enough for them to unlock my phone [60 days]). I'm wondering if Straight Talk would even understand the issues with the IMEI not being registered, or if I'd be stuck on AT&T paying a higher prepaid amount.
2. For those who have bought an international version, what kind of charger came with it? I asked an eBay seller who has several 920I's listed if it comes with a Samsung U.S. fast charger, and they said 'no'. If not, I guess we're on our own to buy a charger/fast charger?
Any answers would be much appreciated.
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Return it. I am using SM-G920F International Version on AT&T network. It's way faster and I've already received an update improving stability of the device. Also, check with AT&T about which LTE bands are operating in your area. Atlanta, for example, is operating on LTE bands 17 and 4. Since SM-G920F does not have band 17 support, I am only able to receive band 4 LTE. Keep in mind that AT&T's main LTE band is 17, which covers most areas and SM-G920F does not have that support. You won't receive LTE if AT&T operates on band 17 in your area.
Also, the charger you will receive is Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger.
LTE-X said:
Return it. I am using SM-G920F International Version on AT&T network. It's way faster and I've already received an update improving stability of the device. Also, check with AT&T about which LTE bands are operating in your area. Atlanta, for example, is operating on LTE bands 17 and 4. Since SM-G920F does not have band 17 support, I am only able to receive band 4 LTE. Keep in mind that AT&T's main LTE band is 17, which covers most areas and SM-G920F does not have that support. You won't receive LTE if AT&T operates on band 17 in your area.
Also, the charger you will receive is Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger.
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I have been looking into the 920I, which, by this eBay seller's listing supports LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 17 & 26. That should cover about everything in the U.S., correct?
Also, I haven't read any threads about rooting/flashing custom recovery (because no way to do so right now on AT&T version), but I'm assuming the 920I or F both already have root methods and custom recoveries, right?
EDIT: I just found a 920F on eBay, and it lists the following connections (including LTE band 17):
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(1700/2100AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800).
Sure yours doesn't support band 17?
From my understanding. The international model does support Band 17.
Sent from my SM-N910W8
daniel4653 said:
From my understanding. The international model does support Band 17.
Sent from my SM-N910W8
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Any international model, or a particular one, like the 920F?
wvcadle said:
Any international model, or a particular one, like the 920F?
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The F and the I models
Sent from my SM-N910W8
daniel4653 said:
The F and the I models
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Thanks for the answers. Has anyone been able to verify this? I'm looking at two eBay sellers with 99.9% ratings over thousands of items sold, and both are listing band 17 on LTE as supported.
EDIT: D'oh! I misread your post as reading 'do not' support band 17. My apologies.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7765&c=samsung_sm-g920f_galaxy_s6_lte-a_64gb_samsung_zero_f
Above site doesn't list band 17. From my experience, I was never connected to band 17 LTE using AT&T. It was either Band 4 LTE or Band 2 Hspa+. Maybe I am missing something or AT&T towers lock Band 17 LTE for AT&T branded devices.
I am not ATT customer. Bought ATT version and have a weeks battle to get unlock code after paying full price at bb. Yes, it has tons of ATT and Samsung bloatware. Took it back and get G9201i from eBay seller Breed. Loving it and working flawlessly on cricket which uses ATT towers.
Ian B
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7765&c=samsung_sm-g920f_galaxy_s6_lte-a_64gb_samsung_zero_f
Above site doesn't list band 17. From my experience, I was never connected to band 17 LTE using AT&T. It was either Band 4 LTE or Band 2 Hspa+. Maybe I am missing something or AT&T towers lock Band 17 LTE for AT&T branded devices.
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Is that site "the standard resource" for this type of information?
If so, then it shows the 920I as having 2, 4, 5, 12, 17 and 26 LTE bands.
SM-G920I
wvcadle said:
Is that site "the standard resource" for this type of information?
If so, then it shows the 920I as having 2, 4, 5, 12, 17 and 26 LTE bands.
SM-G920I
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That website is one and only website that an actual person cross references with the government integrity registration from FCC and oversea government organizations as well. Since SM-G920I model does have band 17 and 4, you will be perfectly fine with using it on AT&T's network. Sorry for the earlier confusion (I thought you were referring to SM-G920F model, which is the one that I am using).
Just to add: voLTE feature is disabled on international versions right now. It should be enabled in the future.
Thanks! Any reason cited that it's disabled? I mean, I could care less anyway, just wondering.
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Mr Ian B said:
I am not ATT customer. Bought ATT version and have a weeks battle to get unlock code after paying full price at bb. Yes, it has tons of ATT and Samsung bloatware. Took it back and get G9201i from eBay seller Breed. Loving it and working flawlessly on cricket which uses ATT towers.
Ian B
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Dear Mr lan, do you get LTE? I'm using G920i and my provider is ATT, I never get LTE here in New York.
My main concern now is if I'll have any problems with LTE on Straight Talk. I'm guessing the only reason one may not get LTE is if their provider doesn't have their IMEI registered as an LTE device. I can only imagine Straight Talk's reaction to someone asking them to register their IMEI.
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Dear Mr lan, do you get LTE? I'm using G920i and my provider is ATT, I never get LTE here in New York.
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Must be your apn settings. Yes I get full LTE. I can check when light up on display and the dialer code does show I am connected to an LTE band.
Some folks w att have had them replace thwir imei with an old imei recognized in their network as 4G enable and that may fix your issue to.
Ian B
Mr Ian B said:
Must be your apn settings. Yes I get full LTE. I can check when light up on display and the dialer code does show I am connected to an LTE band.
Ian B
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Is there not an LTE icon in the status bar when connected to LTE?
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Is there not an LTE icon in the status bar when connected to LTE?
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Yes, mine shows LTE on notification bar.
Ian B
Mr Ian B said:
Yes, mine shows LTE on notification bar.
Ian B
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Last question, I think... did your 920I come with a genuine Samsung adaptive fast charger? Was it a European fast charger with an American adapter, or American Samsung fast charger all the way?
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Last question, I think... did your 920I come with a genuine Samsung adaptive fast charger? Was it a European fast charger with an American adapter, or American Samsung fast charger all the way?
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No European charger or adapter. It was a standard Samsung fast charger. That's what it says on side and when I plug to the phone it recognizes it as a fast charger.
Ian B
Dear friends, I have Nexus 5 but 4G doesn't works . My service provider supports 4G service at 800MHz and 1800MHz as it shown here http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=Morocco , but my nexus 5 d 821 does not work with 4G, I want to ask that if there is a solution like a roms or others things.
Thanks in advance.
800MHz and 1800MHz are LTE bands 20 and 3 which are supported by your device but those information are for Morocco. Do you have the same information from your carrier?
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800MHz and 1800MHz are LTE bands 20 and 3 which are supported by your device but those information are for Morocco. Do you have the same information from your carrier?
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yes my carrier has 1800MHz , but i can't find or connect to 4G on everywhere
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yes my carrier has 1800MHz , but i can't find or connect to 4G on everywhere
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Do you have a map that could show you the cell towers around you?
Is LTE enabled in your phone settings? (preferred network type)
Primokorn said:
Do you have a map that could show you the cell towers around you?
Is LTE enabled in your phone settings? (preferred network type)
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no i don't have a map, yes LTE is enable on my phone settings.
Chouiyekh said:
Dear friends, I have Nexus 5 but 4G doesn't works . My service provider supports 4G service at 800MHz and 1800MHz as it shown here http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=Morocco , but my nexus 5 d 821 does not work with 4G, I want to ask that if there is a solution like a roms or others things.
Thanks in advance.
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hey Mate,
i have Got the same problem just like you.
i have a white nexus 5 (D821) 32Gb version.
i can't connect to 4G network,unless i'm near the 4G tower.
sometimes the phone loses signal and switches to ''emergency calls only" mode even when i force switching to 3G by typing *#*#4636#*#*
If anyone you kno how to solve this problem or anyone else here do,could you possibly help me out with this.
i'm from méknes by the way.
ZaKaRia OuH said:
hey Mate,
i have Got the same problem just like you.
i have a white nexus 5 (D821) 32Gb version.
i can't connect to 4G network,unless i'm near the 4G tower.
sometimes the phone loses signal and switches to ''emergency calls only" mode even when i force switching to 3G by typing *#*#4636#*#*
If anyone you kno how to solve this problem or anyone else here do,could you possibly help me out with this.
i'm from méknes by the way.
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hi friend, nice to meet you
i will try to give you a summary of what i reached in the end.
first thing, i discovered that the nexus 5 that i have is not a D821 but it's a D820 means it's the version especially for USA networks, and this mean that 4G of USA networks works on different bands than ours in Morocco, so after finding exactly where the problem, i began looking for a solution and i found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561 and after application the lesson, i got the 4G connection on my phone, and it's work very well till now.
this is my story, and i think it's a little different than mine.
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend, nice to meet you
i will try to give you a summary of what i reached in the end.
first thing, i discovered that the nexus 5 that i have is not a D821 but it's a D820 means it's the version especially for USA networks, and this mean that 4G of USA networks works on different bands than ours in Morocco, so after finding exactly where the problem, i began looking for a solution and i found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561 and after application the lesson, i got the 4G connection on my phone, and it's work very well till now.
this is my story, and i think it's a little different than mine.
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i'm glad you answered.
and i'm glad you figured that out and solved your problem.
my case is somewhat different from yours.
before enabling those bands,you never caught 4G signal.
but for me,i do get 4G signal and connect to it,i access internet data, surfe,and make calls,but it's only when i'm near a 4G network tower.
which means the band is already activaed,it's just a deal with the signal strength.
if you can help me,i'd really appreciate that.
i'm really confused wether to flash those drivers or do something about the radio,cuz this problem brings about another problem which is battery drain,
my battery drains faster cuz the phone keeps searching for network.
just to let you know,when i go to bootloader it says Lg nexus 5 D821 (H)
ZaKaRia OuH said:
i'm glad you answered.
and i'm glad you figured that out and solved your problem.
my case is somewhat different from yours.
before enabling those bands,you never caught 4G signal.
but for me,i do get 4G signal and connect to it,i access internet data, surfe,and make calls,but it's only when i'm near a 4G network tower.
which means the band is already activaed,it's just a deal with the signal strength.
if you can help me,i'd really appreciate that.
i'm really confused wether to flash those drivers or do something about the radio,cuz this problem brings about another problem which is battery drain,
my battery drains faster cuz the phone keeps searching for network.
just to let you know,when i go to bootloader it says Lg nexus 5 D821 (H)
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i understood your issue and i wish that i were able to give you a hand, but unfortunatly, i hope you find your way
my best regards
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i understood your issue and i wish that i were able to give you a hand, but unfortunatly, i hope you find your way
my best regards
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thanks anyway dawg , i'm pleased to discuss with you
Chouiyekh said:
i understood your issue and i wish that i were able to give you a hand, but unfortunatly, i hope you find your way
my best regards
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salamo3alikom.
Dude,you won't believe this !!
i just removed the back cover of my nexus 5 and was freaked out to find out it was actually an american model D820
thought the fact that in fastboot mode( bootloader) it says it's a D821 (H)
and guess what ! that (H) confused me and made me doubting it to not be a global (indian) version.
i guess i need to flash Some bands to get my LTE working properly.
thoughtless it's working but only when i'm near a 4G tower !
please help me.
i'd really appreciate that.
ZaKaRia OuH said:
salamo3alikom.
Dude,you won't believe this !!
i just removed the back cover of my nexus 5 and was freaked out to find out it was actually an american model D820
thought the fact that in fastboot mode( bootloader) it says it's a D821 (H)
and guess what ! that (H) confused me and made me doubting it to not be a global (indian) version.
i guess i need to flash Some bands to get my LTE working properly.
thoughtless it's working but only when i'm near a 4G tower !
please help me.
i'd really appreciate that.
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wa 3alaykoum salam,
don't panic, do these steps :
1- go to "settings"
2- scroll down to "About Phone"
3- then "regulatory information"
4- take a screenshot and share it with me here to take a look
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wa 3alaykoum salam,
don't panic, do these steps :
1- go to "settings"
2- scroll down to "About Phone"
3- then "regulatory information"
4- take a screenshot and share it with me here to take a look
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i can't find it under setting/about phone.
since i installed A custom RoM AOSP nougat 7.0 and modified the build.prop to get google assistant working.
ZaKaRia OuH said:
i can't find it under setting/about phone.
since i installed A custom RoM AOSP nougat 7.0 and modified the build.prop to get google assistant working.
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ahh, i dont know where to find it with Nougat, i have shown you on Marshmallow, what about return to 6.0.1 ? and go to the missing setting then take a screenshot and share it with me
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ahh, i dont know where to find it with Nougat, i have shown you on Marshmallow, what about return to 6.0.1 ? and go to the missing setting then take a screenshot and share it with me
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ok.
it's worth trying.
i'll restore the MM backup and share the screenshot asap.
please keep in touch.
Chouiyekh said:
ahh, i dont know where to find it with Nougat, i have shown you on Marshmallow, what about return to 6.0.1 ? and go to the missing setting then take a screenshot and share it with me
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hey bro!
how are you doing ?
i hope you are fine[emoji4]
sorry for this long escape ( been so freaking busy with exams and preparation )
i really am confused with this device !
i thought it to be a nexus 5 model D820 because it can't catch 4G properly , then i removed the back cover and found it's A (D820) then went to regulatory information like you said found it's a (D821 )
went to fastboot mode found out it's a (D821 {H} )
i'm freaking confused.
i used an app called ''LTE Discovery'' to identify which bands my phone uses to connect to 4G when it catches it, i found band 3 and 7 !
do i still need to enable any additional bands like 7 or 20 to get 4G working properly ?
waiting to hearing from you soon !
sincerely,
Zackaria.
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ZaKaRia OuH said:
hey bro!
how are you doing ?
i hope you are fine[emoji4]
sorry for this long escape ( been so freaking busy with exams and preparation )
i really am confused with this device !
i thought it to be a nexus 5 model D820 because it can't catch 4G properly , then i removed the back cover and found it's A (D820) then went to regulatory information like you said found it's a (D821 )
went to fastboot mode found out it's a (D821 {H} )
i'm freaking confused.
i used an app called ''LTE Discovery'' to identify which bands my phone uses to connect to 4G when it catches it, i found band 3 and 7 !
do i still need to enable any additional bands like 7 or 20 to get 4G working properly ?
waiting to hearing from you soon !
sincerely,
Zackaria.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
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what concerns us is what there is within the system and not back cover, so depending on the picture attached and what you said, the version D821 should run 4G, because the bands necessary are already exists. did you tried other SIM cards ( maroc telecom, meditel, inwi ) ? what did you get ? the same problem ?
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what concerns us is what there is within the system and not back cover, so depending on the picture attached and what you said, the version D821 should run 4G, because the bands necessary are already exists. did you tried other SIM cards ( maroc telecom, meditel, inwi ) ? what did you get ? the same problem ?
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i'm using ''maroc telecom'' thought i tried other Sim cards nothing has changed.
i tried inwi. it works well !
i don't know if i still have to activate any additional bands like band 8 and 20 ?
i talked to the guy that have posted the video in youtube and said that i need to activate band 20 if it isn't activated yet.
then talked to developer ''azlun'' who first succeeded to activate band 3 and 20 and said that if band 3 is already activated , but 4G still doesn't work properly , then i need to activate band 8 and 20 which is impossible due to hardware limitations.
what i really need to know what bands are used to connect to 4G in morocco ?
i already have band 3 and 7 activated.
if i have A D821 what others do i still have to activate ?
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ZaKaRia OuH said:
i'm using ''maroc telecom'' thought i tried other Sim cards nothing has changed.
i tried inwi. it works well !
i don't know if i still have to activate any additional bands like band 8 and 20 ?
i talked to the guy that have posted the video in youtube and said that i need to activate band 20 if it isn't activated yet.
then talked to developer ''azlun'' who first succeeded to activate band 3 and 20 and said that if band 3 is already activated , but 4G still doesn't work properly , then i need to activate band 8 and 20 which is impossible due to hardware limitations.
what i really need to know what bands are used to connect to 4G in morocco ?
i already have band 3 and 7 activated.
if i have A D821 what others do i still have to activate ?
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as i know in morocco, the telecom companies use 1800 Mhz and 800Mhz for LTE connection, which means bands 3 and 20, so the global version D821 has bands 3&20 already exists,and the two of them and you don't need to enable any bands! take a look here: D821 LTE bands : 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800).
did you do this step ? calling service client of "maroc telecom" on 888 and tell them that the 4G doesn't work on your phone, and the will activate 4G connection for you, although you have a 4G SIM, you have to call service client of maroc telecom on 888 to ask them to activate LTE connection
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as i know in morocco, the telecom companies use 1800 Mhz and 800Mhz for LTE connection, which means bands 3 and 20, so the global version D821 has bands 3&20 already exists,and the two of them and you don't need to enable any bands! take a look here: D821 LTE bands : 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800).
did you do this step ? calling service client of "maroc telecom" on 888 and tell them that the 4G doesn't work on your phone, and the will activate 4G connection for you, although you have a 4G SIM, you have to call service client of maroc telecom on 888 to ask them to activate LTE connection
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like i said,
my Sim card has already 4G network.
i already called them.
the problem has to do with my device.
now, you just said Nexus 5 Model D821 has band 3 and 20 enabled.
and i tell you i used an app called LTE discovery to find out which bands my phone uses to connect to 4G i found band 3 and sometimes band 7.
if it's the global version why it doesn't use band 20 ?
maybe i need to enable band 8 or 20.
imma call service client f maroc telecom tomorrow and ask them which bands they rely on.
then, imma be taking the next step.
i will really need your help bro.
and excuse my ignorance.
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Hi XDA,
I found a website where I can check if LTE will work. However, carriers in the Netherlands use multiple band, such as band 3, 7 and 20. The GEM-702L doesn't support band 20, but it does support 3 and 7.
My question: Will LTE work on just band 3 or 7, or is band 20 necessary for LTE to work?
Thanks in advance,
Kind regards,
-thatgrass
Its necessary only one band for LTE work. 3, 7 or 20, in this case the 702 model has 3 or 7 so can work in one of those bands.
Thatgrass said:
Hi XDA,
I found a website where I can check if LTE will work. However, carriers in the Netherlands use multiple band, such as band 3, 7 and 20. The GEM-702L doesn't support band 20, but it does support 3 and 7.
My question: Will LTE work on just band 3 or 7, or is band 20 necessary for LTE to work?
Thanks in advance,
Kind regards,
-thatgrass
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What carrier are you using? Have a look at this thread:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/uk-europe-4g-lte-incompatibility.962/page-3
executattor said:
Its necessary only one band for LTE work. 3, 7 or 20, in this case the 702 model has 3 or 7 so can work in one of those bands.
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Thank you so much. I have contacted my carrier and they said in the rural area's also the bands 3 and 7 are supported. However, when looking at the entire country, band 20 is the most used. So with bands 3 and 7 I am able to use LTE in certain area's.
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What carrier are you using? Have a look at this thread:
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I am using KPN. They actually are the one with the worst band 3 and band 7 coverage. I guess I have to look for the GEM-701L.
Does someone maybe know where to get the GEM-701L? I can't seem to find one for a good price which will ship within a few days and doesn't look like a scam.
I bought Xiaomi mi4 64 gb from china last year. To my surprise only 2g network was connected and no 3g and LTE. I don't have much idea about it. I live in India, forget 4g, if there is any method through which I can connect my phone to 3g band I'll be grateful. If someone can explain me how to unlock all 3g bands and that will possibly connect the 3g band of India, it will be of great help. I have already used the phone in 2g network for a year and it's pain in the @ss. I found recently that by unlocking it is possible to use global bands. PLEASE HELP!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
Did you buy TD-LTE version? FDD-LTE is used in most countries.
Most probably YES
Probably Yes. Otherwise the problem of network might not be there.
P.Kosunen said:
Did you buy TD-LTE version? FDD-LTE is used in most countries.
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hello I have a j710fn bought in bangkok and I want to enable the 4g band 4 (this is the band that my cell companie uses in argentina) it seems to be not supported by this device...
my question is if it is posssible or it is a hardware limitation? and if it is possible and it is a guide please share it!
im already rooted
thanks for all!