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Phone rooted - How about the monthly security patches ?

I was wondering, I have rooted my phone using Chainfire's CF-Autoroot.
Normally this will disable OTA updates, I'm aware of that.
But is there some way to manually flash the monthly security updates that Samsung releases each month ?
(or at least they say they are going to release them each month).
Is there a source somewhere where we can download them and flash then using Odin or TWRP ?

No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet

vipercoyote said:
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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Are you sure ? Because when I check manually for updates, I get the message stating that my phone has changed (root) and so updates cannot be downloaded and installed. It says that I need to try to download it via a PC tool from Samsung.

vipercoyote said:
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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There is for the International version.

vipercoyote said:
No you didnt root. There isnt full root for s7 yet
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There very well is for the Exynos version/type and the reason I'm tempted to get it after prices have dropped a bit :
Check it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770

Ok guys, now that we have established that root is available and working for the European version (which I have)...
Anyone know if the monthly patches from Samsung/Google will be available for download somewhere, so we can flash it manually and still be up-to-date ?

I would like to know this as well. I would guess they could be flashed with Odin?

I would like to know this. I am on the W8 variant rooted with autoroot and wondering how will I go about updating to new patches.
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I love Android.

you should flash your firmware via Odin to unroot, apply OTA, root again with auto root.

exploreresp said:
you should flash your firmware via Odin to unroot, apply OTA, root again with auto root.
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Yes, I am aware of this possibility.
I was just hoping in applying the monthly patch without full flash (which completely wipes the phone).

Indeed, flashing will reset the phone...I found that the hard way last night.
There is a topic on S7edge forum about Chainfire's FlashFire app. It claims that can flash without resetting the phone.
Did not try it but I will follow the discussions there. Would be perfect to flash a new f/w and not have the phone reset. ( like good old times

Maybe it is possible to prevent the userdata and internal storage to be wiped by flashing the official firmware ?
Anyone has succeeded to do so ?

I managed to download the complete new firmware G935FXXU1APD3 from Sammobile and flashed it with ODIN with the phone in download mode.
It did not overwrite any of my personal data or apps and the phone worked as before however you will need to root again afterwards, but that doesn't take long anyway.
The only other thing I had to do was copy the mixer_paths and mixer_gain files to the SD card then replace them as the new firmware overrides the volume hack if you have it in place.
Keith

I guess that's what Chainfire trying to achieve with Flashfire. To be able to directly flash the Updates without having to manually backup/restore anything. Let's see how this goes. As of today you could flash the full oding images within flashfire.
Will definitely try when the next update for my phone variant comes.

I did take a TWRP backup just in case but was pleasantly surprised when the phone booted back to where it was.

I can confirm that the Flashfire method can be used for updates. Grab the update package, flash it through flashfire, and even select the "ever root" option to maintain root. Works great!

databoy2k said:
I can confirm that the Flashfire method can be used for updates. Grab the update package, flash it through flashfire, and even select the "ever root" option to maintain root. Works great!
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How did you get the update package? When trying to search for an update on the phone it says I modified it.
Or did you load an full stock rom?

brotbuexe said:
How did you get the update package? When trying to search for an update on the phone it says I modified it.
Or did you load an full stock rom?
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Grabbed a full stock rom, extracted the modem and system packages, and flashed them specifically through flashfire. A link to the full stock rom was posted on the Canadian S7 thread in the discussion forum.

[root] FlashFire safe to use?

Hello,
I'd like to update my phone via ota without losing root. I found the tool [root] FlashFire that promise to do that. Is this tool working well and safe to use?
OTAs can also deliver new firmware updates like radio, hboot, etc. Is Flashfire also able to update the firmware or should I better install the ota the normal way and then root again?

RichardEb said:
Hello,
I'd like to update my phone via ota without losing root. I found the tool [root] FlashFire that promise to do that. Is this tool working well and safe to use?
OTAs can also deliver new firmware updates like radio, hboot, etc. Is Flashfire also able to update the firmware or should I better install the ota the normal way and then root again?
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I did that(ff) and ota..
worked well for me
if u don't feel safe,u can try ota 1st then root

I'm only not sure if the app can also flash the firmware part or only the ROM itself

Closing thread. Please post in the official thread listed here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433

Get OTA with root and xposed?

Hi guys,
It it possible to get OTA with root and xposed? Should i uninstall xposed and unroot device?(how to unroot? uncheck Enable superuser?)

Nope
Flash stock

farid993 said:
Hi guys,
It it possible to get OTA with root and xposed? Should i uninstall xposed and unroot device?(how to unroot? uncheck Enable superuser?)
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Hi
As long as you have the latest Systemless root and SU by Chainfire (being around for months) you did not modified the system files of your phone and unroot (from SuperSU) yes is possible
Some people said is possible also no unroot necessary if you just fake system status

MAX 404 said:
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As long as you have the latest Systemless root and SU by Chainfire (being around for months) you did not modified the system files of your phone and unroot (from SuperSU) yes is possible
Some people said is possible also no unroot necessary if you just fake system status
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Thank you. So just uninstall xposed and unroot(or not) and i`m good.
How about TWRP recovery? To install Xposed i should use TWRP to flash it(or could i use FlashFire only?)
Also should i defrost all system apps that i froze them?

farid993 said:
Thank you. So just uninstall xposed and unroot(or not) and i`m good.
How about TWRP recovery? To install Xposed i should use TWRP to flash it(or could i use FlashFire only?)
Also should i defrost all system apps that i froze them?
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Hi
Option 1 Systemless root and systemless SuperSu ( Chainfire) no xposed (rovo89) , no system modification, no R/W systems, no TWRP , unroot from SuperSu , OTA possible
Option 1.1 use Flashfire guide here
Option 2 ( have not tested it) fake system status

In my experience trying to return Custom status to Official after rooting, even after removing root, is near impossible
That said, with this new systemless root, I haven't tried, but if you have altered any system files, which is generally what people use root for (Adblocking = Hosts file mod etc) then it won't return to Official unless you flash stock over the top again
Not seen this new status spoofer until now, be interested to see if that works

Thanks guys
So i guess with xposed it is impossible to get OTA, because to fake system status we need xposed but to get OTA we need to uninstall xposed.
Also *Detection* is right. We root our device to alter system.
So at the end we need download whole ~2gb firmware(flash, root, xposed, all other changing system thing again) for 20-30mb monthly security patch

farid993 said:
Thanks guys
So i guess with xposed it is impossible to get OTA, because to fake system status we need xposed but to get OTA we need to uninstall xposed.
Also *Detection* is right. We root our device to alter system.
So at the end we need download whole ~2gb firmware(flash, root, xposed, all other changing system thing again) for 20-30mb monthly security patch
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Basically yep, unless you're not bothered about the security update and just wait for feature/performance updates
With my S5 I used to update every update, download the new ROM, flash with ODIN, TWRP > Root > Mod
Doesn't take too long tbh

*Detection* said:
In my experience trying to return Custom status to Official after rooting, even after removing root, is near impossible
That said, with this new systemless root, I haven't tried, but if you have altered any system files, which is generally what people use root for (Adblocking = Hosts file mod etc) then it won't return to Official unless you flash stock over the top again
Not seen this new status spoofer until now, be interested to see if that works
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farid993 said:
Thanks guys
So i guess with xposed it is impossible to get OTA, because to fake system status we need xposed but to get OTA we need to uninstall xposed.
Also *Detection* is right. We root our device to alter system.
So at the end we need download whole ~2gb firmware(flash, root, xposed, all other changing system thing again) for 20-30mb monthly security patch
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*Detection* said:
Basically yep, unless you're not bothered about the security update and just wait for feature/performance updates
With my S5 I used to update every update, download the new ROM, flash with ODIN, TWRP > Root > Mod
Doesn't take too long tbh
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+ 1 guys
After rooting is very hard to keep system "clean" enough ....if you meet the conditions is possible.....but to my by far *Detection* suggestion is easier...
status spoofer i have not tried ( I have a custom rom) ......

Questions about root

Hello Folks,
I need to know a few things about root, can someone explain me what's the difference between normal root and "systemless" root ?
And how do I know what kind of root I am using ?
I'm running SlimX, 5.11 with Xperia XZ SystemUI
I am root but I don't know wich one

Baradoura said:
Hello Folks,
I need to know a few things about root, can someone explain me what's the difference between normal root and "systemless" root ?
And how do I know what kind of root I am using ?
I'm running SlimX, 5.11 with Xperia XZ SystemUI
I am root but I don't know wich one
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Normal root modifies files on your system partition so that you can have root access. On stock firmware, this breaks dm-verity and causes you to fail SafetyNet checks making AndroidPay and some other apps no longer work. It also prevents you from taking OTA updates because it is no longer recognized as stock firmware. Even if you fully unroot, you will still not be able to take OTA updates because the phone "remembers" that you modified system files and fails dm-verity. The only way to get back to original firmware and take OTA updates is to reflash your entire firmware, wiping all user data in the process.
Systemless root works by intercepting files at the kernel level before the phone fully boots and replaces system files. Once the helper apps are installed you can pass the SafetyNet checks, but you will still not be able to receive OTA updates. The major benefit to systemless root is that you can reflash your stock boot.img (kernel) and your phone will be back to stock firmware, you will bass dm-verity and SafetyNet checks, and you can take OTA updates all without losing any user data. It is very easy to switch between systemless root and stock unrooted by simply flashing the necessary boot.img.
My guess is that since you're on a custom ROM you have normal root. To learn more about systemless root, take a look at Magisk.

Thanks very much bro, yeah I guess I'm on normal root since I can't use android pay and can't download some apps protected by safetynet.
Either way next time I root my phone I'll try systemless method

Baradoura said:
Thanks very much bro, yeah I guess I'm on normal root since I can't use android pay and can't download some apps protected by safetynet.
Either way next time I root my phone I'll try systemless method
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No, you are on systemless if you use slimx.

Are you sure ? I don't want to try some risky method to know

Baradoura said:
Are you sure ? I don't want to try some risky method to know
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You can't have custom kernel and use android pay, just forget about it.

Samsung Galaxy S8 unroot

Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?

minalm said:
Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?
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It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
OR
An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
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Droidriven said:
It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
OR
An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
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you have given a very detailed explanation and i fell like a simple thank you would be enough. you helped me out now and i feel somewhat obliged to thank you this way.
cheers

Is the things still the same... namely unrooting will not return KNOX and can not use Samsung warranty?

hi
i have a rotted phone s8..i flashed a stock rom, but phone is still rooted. Some apps like us google pay,mcdonalds tell me that phone is rooted..What i can do?