Hello
A brief timeline of events leading to this thread:
1. I purchased a G-Flex2 H950 from Ebay for $250 and was supposed to be upgrading from a Galaxy S4-I337.
2. Received my device yesterday and set out to update to 5.1.1 & root the device to remove bloatware.
3. I was able to update to 5.1.1 V11x using my StraightTalk sim on AT&T network.
4. After many frustrating hours of trying to root using different methods, I finally was able to root using the technique mentioned in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-flex2/development/root-easy-root-att-flex-2-5-1-1-t3178354
5. A nice complement to point "4" above was the firmware update to 5.1.1 V11z.
6. Extremely happy that I was ready to rock, I set out to delete all the bloatware from my device.
7. First surprise obviously was the inability to remove a bunch of AT&T apps because "APK could not found" error.
8. Like the idiot that I am, I went ahead and deleted the "rootsystem.img" from the internal memory (unnecessarily, blame my OCD!).
9. Now after I finished de-bloating the device (or so I thought), I rebooted it and to my horror... I see the error message:
LG Security Error
Authentication Fail #9
10. I attempted to get to the recovery mode and deleted/erased all data & settings. No dice!
11. I'm still able to get to the download mode using the Volume-Up & USB connect method (& this is why I'm cursing myself at point "8" because I could have re-used the easy root method again to flash the img file).
12. I tried to use the "LG Mobile Support Tool", it recognizes the device correctly as "LGH950" but says V11z is the latest software update.
My question to experts: How SOL am I? I don't think LG would honor my warranty since the purchase is NOT from a authorized dealer/reseller. So no chance of warranty repair/replacement, no?
I looked everywhere (for close to 10 hours) for KDZ & TOT files to even attempt something. But I couldn't find anything for H950. Man, I hate AT&T so much now... Why couldn't they just leave the bootloader unlocked? Or LG (AT&T?)even provide the necessary files to start off with?
Could someone with more knowledge please offer any help? Meanwhile, I've pretty much resigned to be joining the queue full of others with bricked H950's...
From what I've heard LG goes by the S/N and date of manufacturing just like Lenovo for warranty. You can just ask their customer service if the warranty is active for your phone.
As for recovering it all you would've needed to do was use the tool as you stated. I have commented many times explaining people should only disable/freeze bloat and not *delete* anything (there are some crucial system apps, editing build prop seems to cause loops for me for ex.). There was another member in this situation if I remember correctly.
In case you can't go the warranty route ask Sj if he has found a way to push files while the phone is in DL mode.
Sent from my XT1528
Hi i have the same problem, I rename many apps in system folder of my ls996 zv8 and now the phone no boot and only show "LG Security Error"
I tried to rename the files in download mode but system partition is mounted as read only, and also fails when attempting to mount this in rw.
In 5.1.1 the download mode remove the option to read files from sd card.
I tried to mount the sd card, but I had no luck.
The sd-card is located in /sys/block/mmcblk1
cat /proc/partitions show: 179 64 1921024 mmcblk1
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mount -t vfat -o rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1023,g id=1023,fmask=0007,dmask=0007,allow_utime=0020,utf 8 /dev/block/vold/179:65 /data/media/1 , fail to mount
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maxie.maverick said:
Hello
LG Security Error
Authentication Fail #9
10. I attempted to get to the recovery mode and deleted/erased all data & settings. No dice!
11. I'm still able to get to the download mode using the Volume-Up & USB connect method (& this is why I'm cursing myself at point "8" because I could have re-used the easy root method again to flash the img file).
12. I tried to use the "LG Mobile Support Tool", it recognizes the device correctly as "LGH950" but says V11z is the latest software update.
My question to experts: How SOL am I? I don't think LG would honor my warranty since the purchase is NOT from a authorized dealer/reseller. So no chance of warranty repair/replacement, no?
I looked everywhere (for close to 10 hours) for KDZ & TOT files to even attempt something. But I couldn't find anything for H950. Man, I hate AT&T so much now... Why couldn't they just leave the bootloader unlocked? Or LG (AT&T?)even provide the necessary files to start off with?
Could someone with more knowledge please offer any help? Meanwhile, I've pretty much resigned to be joining the queue full of others with bricked H950's...
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hey have u been able to fix the issue ??
as i just got the ls996 sprint g flex 2, and some how i renamed wrong system file, and got the same issue
my phone is stuck on
SECURITY ERROR
AUTHENTICATION ERROR #9
please help me out if someone around found a solution
same problem here
Security error authentication fail #9 on Lg tribute 2 LGLS665
Hello,
I am stuck on security error authentication fail #9 on Lg tribute 2 LGLS665 at start up.
Got this error when rename the Lgstartupwizard.apk to Lgstartupwizard.bak.
Please Help.........
Same phone and problem as op. H950 V11X Rooted "Authentication Failure #9". Anyone ever figure this out?
We just need someone with the H950 KDZ
Maybe as a G2 user I'm overlooking something but - why not download the kdz from http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=XXXXXX (put your IMEI instead of Xs), eh?
Security Error
Thanks for the link ..
Its not helping me on Lg tribute 2 LGLS665. Below is the text received.
I have replaced the MEID number below with "X".
<response req_cmd="auth_model_check" status="OK">
<auth_model_check>
<result>2</result>
<esn>XXXXXXXXXXXXXX</esn>
<model>LGLS665</model>
<suffix>AVGMBLH</suffix>
<msn>XXXXXXXXX</msn>
<esn_date/>
<sw_version/>
<sw_url/>
<sw_locale_url/>
<sw_recommand_uri/>
<app_version/>
<app_url/>
<cs_em_flag>N</cs_em_flag>
<cs_em_uri>N</cs_em_uri>
<chip_type/>
<prod_type/>
<buyer>VGM</buyer>
<file_name/>
</auth_model_check>
</response>
mwedo said:
Maybe as a G2 user I'm overlooking something but - why not download the kdz from http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=XXXXXX (put your IMEI instead of Xs), eh?
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Hey man, thanks for the suggestion, but tried that too. Did not get an option to download the kdz when I entered IMEI. Here's the screenshot I get.
hi sorry to bump in
but i made the huge mistake in renaming system apps, so now bootloop and same security error condition with a ls996 zv6,
1.- i know that don't even think to try to downgrade from zv6 to zv5 tot= Brick.
2.- is there a way to push, copy (aroma file manager, twrp file manager), in normal or stock recovery?
3.- is there a way to flash rootedsystem.img zv6 to the phone in: recovery, fastboot or even the command:
Step 11 flash commands:
For LS996 (ZV6/ZV7/ZV8)
Code:
dd if=/data/media/0/rootedsystem.img bs=8192 seek=58368 count=522240 of=/dev/block/mmcblk0, from another source, rather than from internal sd, because obviously i didn't copied to the device previously?
4.- already tried to flash from stock recovery, the ZV6 Update= update.zip but it gives an error to load because some system app not valid, i remember
please, if someone could help me and us with this problem
thank you very much indeed
atv said:
but i made the huge mistake in renaming system apps, so now bootloop and same security error condition with a ls996 zv6,
1.- i know that don't even think to try to downgrade from zv6 to zv5 tot= Brick.
2.- is there a way to push, copy (aroma file manager, twrp file manager), in normal or stock recovery?
3.- is there a way to flash rootedsystem.img zv6 to the phone in: recovery, fastboot or even the command:
Step 11 flash commands:
For LS996 (ZV6/ZV7/ZV8)
Code:
dd if=/data/media/0/rootedsystem.img bs=8192 seek=58368 count=522240 of=/dev/block/mmcblk0, from another source, rather than from internal sd, because obviously i didn't copied to the device previously?
4.- already tried to flash from stock recovery, the ZV6 Update= update.zip but it gives an error to load because some system app not valid, i remember
please, if someone could help me and us with this problem
thank you very much indeed
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Only solution is to send it back to LG.
There is no way (yet) to flash with dd command from external SD.
and there is no other tot besides ZV5 and as you said thats a Hard brick.
hi
Alex_XV6700 said:
Only solution is to send it back to LG.
There is no way (yet) to flash with dd command from external SD.
and there is no other tot besides ZV5 and as you said thats a Hard brick.
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thank you very much indeed for your answer, but as another reply i posted, as question in other thread, read this, maybe a solution if semi bricked, LG security error, in: zv06, zv07 or zv08, if it turns to be truth....
hi...... there is a forum member form another site that claims to have a zv8 rooted tot to sell, but i'm not sure if its true or reliable, claims that it fix bricks and its a 4.3 gb file, does anybody knows about it?
any help or guide please, thank you very much indeed
File name:LGLS996AT-00-ZV8-SPR-US-AUG-18-2015+01.zip
Android OS version:5.1
File Download:
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This TOT firmware contains the ROOT authority, after the success of flashing, ROOT success
TOT firmware flashing effect:
1.brick the repair
2, upgrade ROM
3, downgrade ROM
4, remove the lock screen password
5, Clear Google locks
6, restore factory settings
Tips:
1,This TOT firmware suitable for LGFlashTool.
2,After the purchase of the post, hidden content will be displayed, then you can free download attachments.
3,After purchase is successful, the second time to visit this page does not appear charges prompt.
atv said:
thank you very much indeed for your answer, but as another reply i posted, as question in other thread, read this, maybe a solution if semi bricked, LG security error, in: zv06, zv07 or zv08, if it turns to be truth....
hi...... there is a forum member form another site that claims to have a zv8 rooted tot to sell, but i'm not sure if its true or reliable, claims that it fix bricks and its a 4.3 gb file, does anybody knows about it?
any help or guide please, thank you very much indeed
File name:LGLS996AT-00-ZV8-SPR-US-AUG-18-2015+01.zip
Android OS version:5.1
File Download:
Buy topic
Existing 2 People buy This topic is to be paid to the author 1000 Credits Before viewing
This TOT firmware contains the ROOT authority, after the success of flashing, ROOT success
TOT firmware flashing effect:
1.brick the repair
2, upgrade ROM
3, downgrade ROM
4, remove the lock screen password
5, Clear Google locks
6, restore factory settings
Tips:
1,This TOT firmware suitable for LGFlashTool.
2,After the purchase of the post, hidden content will be displayed, then you can free download attachments.
3,After purchase is successful, the second time to visit this page does not appear charges prompt.
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Well I wouldnt trust this.
But if this only flashes the system partition well it shouldnt be harmful. You could download the zv6 stock sys.img and flash it afterwards so you can ota update your phone to zv9 and then root again.
But like I said I wouldnt suggest that...
Alex_XV6700 said:
There is no way (yet) to flash with dd command from external SD.
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Why no? You can use Push_file.exe.
MAXIMATOR said:
Why no? You can use Push_file.exe.
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Please, elaborate....
jplum22 said:
Please, elaborate....
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https://www.google.com.ua/#q=Push_file.exe
---------- Post added at 11:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:26 AM ----------
LS9960 ZV6 with
LG Security Error
Authentication Fail #9
was secsessfuly unbricked without SDcard using Push_file.exe for send system.img to internal sdcard
Well this is new @MAXIMATOR at least it is to me.
If you let me I can add this to my back to stock forum.
Push_file.exe can not send files larger than 16 MB . the image to be split into files no more than 16 MB , after which they can be sent to the device . On the device, combined to one file.
MAXIMATOR said:
Push_file.exe can not send files larger than 16 MB . the image to be split into files no more than 16 MB , after which they can be sent to the device . On the device, combined to one file.
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I've already tried. It doesn't work. Files can not be combined.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-flex2/help/to-unbrick-g-flex-2-ls996-t3286105
I got the 6.0 update on my stock AT&T G3 a couple of days ago. Now I am looking to root the phone, but I am confused with the rooting method because all existing methods seem to either mention Kitkat/Lollipop, or the D855 unlocked version. What's currently THE way to root an AT&T G3 running stock Marshmallow?
Thanks!
svemprala said:
I got the 6.0 update on my stock AT&T G3 a couple of days ago. Now I am looking to root the phone, but I am confused with the rooting method because all existing methods seem to either mention Kitkat/Lollipop, or the D855 unlocked version. What's currently THE way to root an AT&T G3 running stock Marshmallow?
Thanks!
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You'll need to downgrade using LGUP
You could always try KingRoot, however I'm not sure if it works on AT&T Marshmallow. I know it worked on the D855 Marshmallow. Worth a shot.
hyelton said:
You'll need to downgrade using LGUP
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in reading the threads for lg up i'm unable to find the kdz for lp for the d850. i tried following the link to download official from lg firmware site and after inputting my imei it says not yet available...
any help greatly appreciated. TIA
my goal is to either install a custom recovery / rom
or downgrade to stock LP so i can root ... and then recovery > custom rom
edit: a bit of an update. I was able to get into adb and reboot to stock recovery. took a few tries. and ended up having to use adb over network (so i could keep the phone plugged in to wall charger, my pc charges it but i don't think very well so when i'd issue the reboot to recovery command it would start the loop again and i'd have to start over. finally got it to reboot to recovery. but now i'm stuck at trying to issue the fastboot boot <TWRP.IMG>
says "waiting for device" im so confused right now.... i did remember to plug it back into the computer after it entered recovery (lil green android guy with the text "no command" underneath)
plz someone save my ass! its almost 2:30 am here
killerskincanoe said:
in reading the threads for lg up i'm unable to find the kdz for lp for the d850. i tried following the link to download official from lg firmware site and after inputting my imei it says not yet available...
any help greatly appreciated. TIA
my goal is to either install a custom recovery / rom
or downgrade to stock LP so i can root ... and then recovery > custom rom
edit: a bit of an update. I was able to get into adb and reboot to stock recovery. took a few tries. and ended up having to use adb over network (so i could keep the phone plugged in to wall charger, my pc charges it but i don't think very well so when i'd issue the reboot to recovery command it would start the loop again and i'd have to start over. finally got it to reboot to recovery. but now i'm stuck at trying to issue the fastboot boot <TWRP.IMG>
says "waiting for device" im so confused right now.... i did remember to plug it back into the computer after it entered recovery (lil green android guy with the text "no command" underneath)
plz someone save my ass! its almost 2:30 am here
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Here's your problem, as stated in my back to stock guide AT&T models and the D850 is TOT File only. You won't ever find a kdz because there is not one. You only have a kitkat tot file you can flash.
Hello all,
I got a ZTE Grand X view 2 (K81) tablet from virgin Mobile in Toronto, Canada and I have the sim locked to my imei number. I would like to root this tablet so I can remove unnecessary applications. It is slow as it has <1gb and the internal memory is 8gb. So far the one click root apps I have tried (kingroot, iroot) don't work. What are other options I have for this device?
It is running Android 7.1.1 with the June 1, 2017 security patches
Thanks Karl
binholz said:
Hello all,
I got a ZTE Grand X view 2 (K81) tablet from virgin Mobile in Toronto, Canada and I have the sim locked to my imei number. I would like to root this tablet so I can remove unnecessary applications. It is slow as it has <1gb and the internal memory is 8gb. So far the one click root apps I have tried (kingroot, iroot) don't work. What are other options I have for this device?
It is running Android 7.1.1 with the June 1, 2017 security patches
Thanks Karl
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One-click root apps won't work. You either go the Magisk patched boot way or Custom recovery + Magisk / SuperSU zip.
What's your phone's chipset?
Hovatek said:
One-click root apps won't work. You either go the Magisk patched boot way or Custom recovery + Magisk / SuperSU zip.
What's your phone's chipset?
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Honestly I don't really know what the chipset is. From CPU-X, here are some more details:
Cpu: cortex-a7 snapdragon 210, 1.1ghz x 4
Board: Helen
Hardware: qcom
Model: K81
Brand/manufacturer: zte
Bootloader: unknown
binholz said:
Honestly I don't really know what the chipset is. From CPU-X, here are some more details:
Cpu: cortex-a7 snapdragon 210, 1.1ghz x 4
Board: Helen
Hardware: qcom
Model: K81
Brand/manufacturer: zte
Bootloader: unknown
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Its Qualcomm. To root, you'll need either stock boot.img or recovery.img. Do you have the firmware for your model?
Hovatek said:
Its Qualcomm. To root, you'll need either stock boot.img or recovery.img. Do you have the firmware for your model?
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I don't have that yet, I will need to search for that. My SD card is currently set as an internal, not portable, is that a problem? Is there a way to copy the current boot.img or recovery.img from a running system? I have installed magisk manager, I just need to get a hold of the boot or recovery files
binholz said:
I don't have that yet, I will need to search for that. My SD card is currently set as an internal, not portable, is that a problem? Is there a way to copy the current boot.img or recovery.img from a running system? I have installed magisk manager, I just need to get a hold of the boot or recovery files
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Have you had any luck finding firmware for this device.... i need to frp bypass mine as i bought it online and am left in a predicament now... The keyboard doesn't allow to access any settings so getting through the FRP part is an issue... no way to downgrade the firmware either because it is running 7.1 . I also can't find custom recoveries anywhere i look online.... if you have some insight or a solution please let me know.
thanks
wallyradburn said:
Have you had any luck finding firmware for this device.... i need to frp bypass mine as i bought it online and am left in a predicament now... The keyboard doesn't allow to access any settings so getting through the FRP part is an issue... no way to downgrade the firmware either because it is running 7.1 . I also can't find custom recoveries anywhere i look online.... if you have some insight or a solution please let me know.
thanks
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Not yet, I switched my SD card back to portable and tried to look around the system using adb shell without any luck. The system is locked down tight and I don't have permission to view most directories. I also contacted ZTE for the recovery img, they thought I was talking about backing up photos
I have same tablet from virgin mobile Canada. I have solid explorer, and it allows me to have root file access out of the box. I deleted bloat apks, was gtg. Not sure if it's normal behavior. I was shocked to see root file system out of the box. P.S any developers that a full system dump would help, I can probably do. After more poking around, I don't have full root access, but I do have read/write to system folder with build.prop etc
jonjadot said:
I have same tablet from virgin mobile Canada. I have solid explorer, and it allows me to have root file access out of the box. I deleted bloat apks, was gtg. Not sure if it's normal behavior. I was shocked to see root file system out of the box. P.S any developers that a full system dump would help, I can probably do. After more poking around, I don't have full root access, but I do have read/write to system folder with build.prop etc
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I just downloaded and installed solid explorer and the classic versions. Not luck viewing the / file system. If you can get the boot file and post a link to it that would be helpful for the magisk rooting method.
-I was able to use a google account manager app and downloaded/installed qucik_shortcut_2.4.0 this allows you access the launcher and partially use this device... I was able to set the username of the device but to no avail i am unable to use that combo to strip out the previous user's information. there's a method online to show you how to use the talkback settings to get to this point and i used my knowledge of frp bypassing samsung devices to get a little further. the developer options setting is still locked because it doesn't recognize me as the primary user. Its very frustrating. I'm able to sign into chrome with my credentials and access gmail through the browser but as far as getting my account onto this device its been days of trying and my girlfriend is just disgusted with my persistence. I don't know if or when an oreo update will be made available that this will help solve the problem, but i can't believe zte doesn't have the stock firmware anywhere online.
any of you fellow nerds out there that can help please do... I use an S3 for my daily use because well, they're so amazing to customize but the battery is crap because its so old. One thing i have found is with this zte you can at least play the "catch the cat" easter egg game, which is a complete waste of time but fun at the same time.
I'm not sure if this will help but i might as well. I'm also stuck with a zteK81 i'd REALLY love to root. I never had to go really deep into android stuff so tbh ... i've read alot ... but beside knowing i can't root it yet after a couple diff. method... im a bit confuse in all that. Up here i read ppls about looking for the Firmwire and someone else searching for the root. I have pull some pretty deep layer files in mine that may .. may not help you guys. I can't read that correctly. Here's 3 images and i have a little 7z with the actual files and 3-4 more if someone request it. Thanks.
hxxps://i.imgur.com/NVNpLpfh.png ---- Treeview
hxxps://imgur.com/8GLP2xJ ----- surfacelay.XML
hxxps://imgur.com/kcnDAY9 ----- surfacelay. XML
hxxps://imgur.com/oqIaDeR ----- lib. of a dna_file??
EDIT: Firmwire file --> hxxp://download.ztedevices.com/device/global/support/opensource/mobilephones/open_source_notice.html#id45
i found a download for this device's kernel source
hxxp://download.ztedevices.com/device/global/support/opensource/2/20170823_01/P890R81_USCCV1.0.0B08_kernel.tar.gz
im working on getting a stock system image of this tablet from ZTE. im not sure exactly whats needed to get an official twrp and rom going for this tablet but ill help in any way i can
Stock Rom
Online Gravy said:
im working on getting a stock system image of this tablet from ZTE. im not sure exactly whats needed to get an official twrp and rom going for this tablet but ill help in any way i can
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I have a copy of the stock ROM. Who knows how to use it to develop a custom recovery for the K81?
Continued Interest
Is there any interest in rooting the ZTE K81?
Currently, I have a copy of the stock ROM and am trying to modify update.zip using Magisk to mod the boot.img file. I heed help with the signing of the modified update.zip package.
Any Suggestions?
There's no way of flashing an unsigned rom?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
binholz said:
There's no way of flashing an unsigned rom?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Sadly, no.
Difficulties
To date I have found no way to even perform the OEM Unlock on this device and none of the available rooting schemas are of any use.
If I cannot determine how the sing the modified update.zip file, I am out of ideas.
I have a copy of the ZTE stock rom for the K81 and, if there is a more experienced person willing to take a shot at this, I will happily make the rom available to them.
ritzar12 said:
To date I have found no way to even perform the OEM Unlock on this device and none of the available rooting schemas are of any use.
If I cannot determine how the sing the modified update.zip file, I am out of ideas.
I have a copy of the ZTE stock rom for the K81 and, if there is a more experienced person willing to take a shot at this, I will happily make the rom available to them.
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Hello, so it is common that ZTE's don't have any form of fastboot. So your only way is to flash via QPST with a firehose. But today is your lucky day. I was able to extract the k81's firehose from the Rogers ZTE firmware flashing tool. I have also downloaded the full QPST firmware fire and included the firehose with it. As well as a separate download in case someone already has it. I will also be ordering the device shortly. If you have newer firmware, or one designed for a variant other the rogers would be great if you can share it.
Rogers B05 Firmware
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891291
Separate Firehose download
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891292
Rogers ZTE FIrmware flashing tool (Not really useful just linking because its how I got the firehose)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891290
ZTE Kernel source mirror (We are codenamed Helen)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891289
Frustration intensifies...
deadman96385 said:
Hello, so it is common that ZTE's don't have any form of fastboot. So your only way is to flash via QPST with a firehose. But today is your lucky day. I was able to extract the k81's firehose from the Rogers ZTE firmware flashing tool. I have also downloaded the full QPST firmware fire and included the firehose with it. As well as a separate download in case someone already has it. I will also be ordering the device shortly. If you have newer firmware, or one designed for a variant other the rogers would be great if you can share it.
Rogers B05 Firmware
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891291
Separate Firehose download
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891292
Rogers ZTE FIrmware flashing tool (Not really useful just linking because its how I got the firehose)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891290
ZTE Kernel source mirror (We are codenamed Helen)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397891289
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Where do you get or how do you create the rawprogram0.xml file. Presumably the directory structure information is available somewhere in the kernel or the ROM but, methods to extract the information into an XML evade me.