Purenexus 7.0 [beta][unofficial] - Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development

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About:
The Pure Nexus Project aims to bring stability and features to your Nexus device, while keeping Google's vision in line and not straying too far away from that. If you are looking for a stable ROM with true tested features and minimal bugs, then this is the place to be.
What works:
Audio
Brightness
GPU Acclereration
Bluetooth
Wifi
GPS
NFC
Location services
Camera and video recording
Video playback
MTP
Sensors
Bugs:
- very poor 1080p video recording quality
XDA:DevDB Information
PURENEXUS, ROM for the Nexus 7 (2013)
Contributors
simplyme2908, DevSwift1, zaclimon
Source Code: https://github.com/aosp-msm8960
ROM OS Version: 7.x Nougat
Based On: AOSP
Version Information
Status: Beta
Current Beta Version: V1.0
Beta Release Date: 2016-09-15
Created 2016-09-15
Last Updated 2016-10-17
Downloads
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwiZcEcv1AOwSU5rNzE4S3IxR2M/view?usp=sharing
Gaaps
opengapps.org

Reserved.
Flash this for cam and launcher to work
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2o7pzuqlgdh0m4k/launcher&cam.zip?dl=0

pss34 said:
Kewl. It would be great to have N-based PN.
:x!
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Isn't this N-based?!

great work. i love it its really snappy but the google play store permissions dont work. but easy fix well done keep bashing out great builds

swiftyste said:
great work. i love it its really snappy but the google play store permissions dont work. but easy fix well done keep bashing out great builds
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Hi, the permissions issue can be sorted by using a newer gaaps package.

simplyme2908 said:
Hi, the permissions issue can be sorted by using a newer gaaps package.
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still happens i just flashed with the latest 15 september 2016 on gapps website

Great to see another build that supports flo on N...
Very much appreciated...very...
Thanks.

swiftyste said:
still happens i just flashed with the latest 15 september 2016 on gapps website
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That's strange I flashed pico and it worked fine.

MT2-User said:
Isn't this N-based?!
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Yes it is. Why don't you flash and see.

pss34 said:
Kewl. It would be great to have N-based PN.
:x!
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MT2-User said:
Isn't this N-based?!
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simplyme2908 said:
Yes it is. Why don't you flash and see.
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I knew it's N. Thanks. I wasn't asking the question.

Those this include substratum and all other pure nexus features or is it just pure AOSP?

simplyme2908 said:
That's strange I flashed pico and it worked fine.
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can you upload your gapps package or let us know the date of your gapps package. I'm having same force close issues related to permissions.

simplyme2908 said:
Reserved.
Looks like the build left out launcher and camera, flash this to fix.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2o7pzuqlgdh0m4k/launcher&cam.zip?dl=0
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This link isn't working for me.. can you mirror it or has the issue been fixed?

Tried flashing open gaaps micro and pico from different dates and setting permissions to no avail, playstore acts crazy!

Xmaster24 said:
Those this include substratum and all other pure nexus features or is it just pure AOSP?
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Hi,
Currently most of the features haven't been added yet. This only an initial build. I'll update once there is a change upstream. But everything works as it should so that's good.

imritechere said:
Tried flashing open gaaps micro and pico from different dates and setting permissions to no avail, playstore acts crazy!
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That seems to be a gaaps issue with nougat in general. If you have any issues with the ROM do let me know.

simplyme2908 said:
That's strange I flashed pico and it worked fine.
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It sure is. I will flash with my gf tablet and report back
Might just be a one time thing but great work

I'm using another N build, and nano og works fine....
Cheers.

drt054 said:
This link isn't working for me.. can you mirror it or has the issue been fixed?
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http://bit.ly/2cWbbFv
here is a direct link from one drive.

simplyme2908 said:
Hi,
Currently most of the features haven't been added yet. This only an initial build. I'll update once there is a change upstream. But everything works as it should so that's good.
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Thanks for the reply, the main feature I'm looking for is substratum seeing as a lot of Nougat builds on other devices already have this but not this device so far, also how much those this differ from @DevSwift1 s builds currently if at all?

Related

Don't you think a single stable ROM is better than hundreds of unstable ROMS?

Precisely what happening here. Everyone releasing their own version of ROM and each of them has some or other problem. It would be a lot better if developers come together to release a single stable ROM that can take MIUI7 down for good.
shailendra1993 said:
Precisely what happening here. Everyone releasing their own version of ROM and each of them has some or other problem. It would be a lot better if developers come together to release a single stable ROM that can take MIUI7 down for good.
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Mokee LP ftw!
shailendra1993 said:
Precisely what happening here. Everyone releasing their own version of ROM and each of them has some or other problem. It would be a lot better if developers come together to release a single stable ROM that can take MIUI7 down for good.
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Well at least there someone who wants to develop for this phone
ya7hu said:
Mokee LP ftw!
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Mokee is stable but not optimum. I am having heating and performance problem.
shailendra1993 said:
Mokee is stable but not optimum. I am having heating and performance problem.
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For me it's stable and has no issues. I'm on the History build.
ya7hu said:
For me it's stable and has no issues. I'm on the History build.
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is viper4android works with your phone?
mine no luck
imagine92 said:
is viper4android works with your phone?
mine no luck
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Yes, Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/themes-apps/viper4android-t2952137 and download the ViperAudio_5.4_stock.zip from the attachments.
> Flash via TWRP > wipe cache/delvik.
shailendra1993 said:
Precisely what happening here. Everyone releasing their own version of ROM and each of them has some or other problem. It would be a lot better if developers come together to release a single stable ROM that can take MIUI7 down for good.
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Before the blaming games begin you need to understand that developers are only one part of the equation. The users not providing logs for errors is the other part. If you have users regularly providing logs for errors, most of the problems would have already been solved.
dont forget the developers arent working with the updated sources they need. Its quite amazing that we even have developers who still work on this device despite xiaomi not releasing these sources.
davtse said:
Before the blaming games begin you need to understand that developers are only one part of the equation. The users not providing logs for errors is the other part. If you have users regularly providing logs for errors, most of the problems would have already been solved.
dont forget the developers arent working with the updated sources they need. Its quite amazing that we even have developers who still work on this device despite xiaomi not releasing these sources.
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That's the thing.
Thanks!!
Suppose I port cyanogen to my phone and have some error like SOT or FM Radio not working, where can I look for help?
shailendra1993 said:
Suppose I port cyanogen to my phone and have some error like SOT or FM Radio not working, where can I look for help?
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You can try the cyanogenmod threads that you have here, depending on the branch. But its likely that there will be no fix available since most of the users choose not to send logs. So if you have issues with the port, getting logs is imperative. a lot of the developers don't have the phone to develop with although they do(help with our phone) so because the system is similar to the ones that they use.
shailendra1993 said:
Suppose I port cyanogen to my phone and have some error like SOT or FM Radio not working, where can I look for help?
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maybe, you can get help from squid2 in moto x play section since moto x play also has similar procesor
:v
well....we're not a bot u know....
we still a human,we have another schedule at real life
if u can do that,just do it
if u can't ... just calm down,sit down right there and waiting with smile face
anyway......,u can check rohan ,omerjerk,dh-harald github or someone else
u can check what is new(testing...,tested and working or any progress)
cya <(")
ya7hu said:
For me it's stable and has no issues. I'm on the History build.
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You still use mokee? Can you install xposed?
deliverboy said:
You still use mokee? Can you install xposed?
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Sorry I don't, I changed my phone.
sent from continuum transfunctioner
ya7hu said:
Sorry I don't, I changed my phone.
sent from continuum transfunctioner
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Oh, ok then. Thanks anyway.

Best ROM 7.1 Nougat for Oneplus One?

II want to move from Android 6.0.1 to Android 7.1 Nougat on my Oneplus One and before I wanted to know what ROM I recommend, since I have read that the most famous are RR Resurrection Remix, TugaPower and CM official. I am interested in the battery and the camera above all.
Resurrection is awesome...try it and see for yourself.
but best judge for any ROM is You Yourself. so try yourself .
All these developers are greatest for OPO, so all are bestest of best, so its you who has the deciding edge to run what .....
Which rom has ota updates?
ArisBat said:
Which rom has ota updates?
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Tugapower has proper OTA but Ressurection Remix notifies when a new update is available
Omni7. Just pure awesomeness!!!
There's a test build in g+ but it is a solid build with great battery life, great camera and many great features!
So much looking forward for Omni7 nightlies!
I'm on CM14.1 and it's really smooth and stable so far.
I didn't test other ROMs, but this one is good.
My only complaint with Nougat is that there is no Xposed Framework yet, so I can't use Amplify and my battery is a little worse. Still decent though.
14.1 is nightly built, right?
am on 13.0, should I go for nightly built?
sorry just got this Oneplus One hands down from a friend, still new to CM. its on 13.0 SNAPSHOT but with TWRP recovery, is it normal? should I gets back to stock recovery before flashing 14.1 nightly or what should I do?
again newbie on this, afraid doing something wrong and brick the phone,
tia and more power
varben said:
Omni7. Just pure awesomeness!!!
There's a test build in g+ but it is a solid build with great battery life, great camera and many great features!
So much looking forward for Omni7 nightlies!
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Can you please share the link for ROM download??
TVJS said:
Can you please share the link for ROM download??
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No, I can't. Just respecting the maintainer.
But, you can go to the Omni community in Google plus and find the download link there.
Our device is named find7op by omnirom.
varben said:
No, I can't. Just respecting the maintainer.
But, you can go to the Omni community in Google plus and find the download link there.
Our device is named find7op by omnirom.
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OK. But when I went there I found 6.0.1 only not the nougat version.
TVJS said:
OK. But when I went there I found 6.0.1 only not the nougat version.
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Read again what I told you. In Google plus community the maintainer posted a link for a test version. In your screenshot you are showing the official nightlies, that's not where you should look at this moment
varben said:
Omni7. Just pure awesomeness!!!
There's a test build in g+ but it is a solid build with great battery life, great camera and many great features!
So much looking forward for Omni7 nightlies!
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Got it man.. Thank you.
Just wanted to know if the basics are doing just fine? Want to try it.
TVJS said:
Got it man.. Thank you.
Just wanted to know if the basics are doing just fine? Want to try it.
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The only issue is Hotspot not working with data enabled.
Other than that everything else I tested is perfect!
Just leaving these here:
Time to charge!!!
varben said:
Just leaving these here:
Time to charge!!!
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Awesome battery?
And is that the inbuilt stock launcher?
TVJS said:
Awesome battery?
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Ok, I'm not a heavy user, but yet this is truly awesome!!!
Ps yes that's omni's own launcher.
I'm currently on sultan. Do I have to delete all my data, e.g. videos, photos and apps, before updating? I have currently no access to a pc for a backup.
Do any of the ROMs come without root?
I mainly need Airwatch for work stuff and that app is really particular about rooting and such!
varben said:
Just leaving these here:
Time to charge!!!
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Stock settings?
For me I can only get about 25 min of Sot per 10%. Tugabrowser, Tapatalk and G+
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
varben said:
Ok, I'm not a heavy user, but yet this is truly awesome!!!
Ps yes that's omni's own launcher.
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which version of gapps is recommended?

[Review] [ROM] Resurrection Remix For Redmi 4 Prime

After Unlocking The Device Bootloader and Installing TWRP Recovery, Then i search for a Custom ROM and then i found this Thread, and I download the Resurrection Remix ROM, and For me its working very fine and haven't notice any Bug for one week. Following are the Video Review.
Live battery?
SAFI_AFRIDI said:
After Unlocking The Device Bootloader and Installing TWRP Recovery, Then i search for a Custom ROM and then i found this Thread, and I download the Resurrection Remix ROM, and For me its working very fine and haven't notice any Bug for one week. Following are the Video Review.
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It's a 21/01/2017 version discontinued
I'm still using this, and will continue to do so until Nougat roms come out. Security is way out of date now, of course, but I just love the features of RR. Will not change to Lineage or Mokee.
kazekiri said:
I'm still using this, and will continue to do so until Nougat roms come out. Security is way out of date now, of course, but I just love the features of RR. Will not change to Lineage or Mokee.
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I love RR too but i can't understand if it is fully functional (dt2w, lcd problems, camera upside down, no agps, wakelock with localization on... are being resolved in these days and some of those problems can't be solved because of proprietary issues) so how is possible that it works totally?
At this point i ask myself why the developers didn't use this source to build then?
angelgf90 said:
Live battery?
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Battery is the same as in Miui V8 Global Stable and you can Extend it with Greenify and Disabled Location for apps.
cimdrap said:
I love RR too but i can't understand if it is fully functional (dt2w, lcd problems, camera upside down, no agps, wakelock with localization on... are being resolved in these days and some of those problems can't be solved because of proprietary issues) so how is possible that it works totally?
At this point i ask myself why the developers didn't use this source to build then?
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They Focus On Lineage and this is just one build. so for me its working fine.
SAFI_AFRIDI said:
They Focus On Lineage and this is just one build. so for me its working fine.
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RR is based on Lineage sources... I'm trying to learn and understand how is possible that we have a lot of proprietary stuff issues and there are not in an older rom
cimdrap said:
I love RR too but i can't understand if it is fully functional (dt2w, lcd problems, camera upside down, no agps, wakelock with localization on... are being resolved in these days and some of those problems can't be solved because of proprietary issues) so how is possible that it works totally?
At this point i ask myself why the developers didn't use this source to build then?
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I haven't had any issues at all with mine (though I haven't tested dt2w since I don't use it). Works pretty much flawlessly after doing a couple fixes:
1. flash the "lights" zip to fix the LED behavior
2. Disable NetworkLocationService
Then this rom works damn near perfectly. I've had zero issues using it as a daily driver for 3 months.
kazekiri said:
I haven't had any issues at all with mine (though I haven't tested dt2w since I don't use it). Works pretty much flawlessly after doing a couple fixes:
1. flash the "lights" zip to fix the LED behavior
2. Disable NetworkLocationService
Then this rom works damn near perfectly. I've had zero issues using it as a daily driver for 3 months.
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How about a fast charging ? Does it work or not ?
There may be a patch or custom kernel to fix this issue ? Please tell me.
Thanks.
cartosary said:
How about a fast charging ? Does it work or not ?
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To be honest, I don't know what speed I am charging at, but it is fast enough for me.
cimdrap said:
It's a 21/01/2017 version discontinued
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Here you can find a build from 10th of February ...
This might also be discontinued, so I will wait till the Resurrection people can take an official LineagOS version as base ...
Skeeve245 said:
Here you can find a build from 10th of February ...
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It's from a different dev and I have heard it has a lot more bugs. Don't flash it.
SAFI_AFRIDI said:
After Unlocking The Device Bootloader and Installing TWRP Recovery, Then i search for a Custom ROM and then i found this Thread, and I download the Resurrection Remix ROM, and For me its working very fine and haven't notice any Bug for one week. Following are the Video Review.
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Do you know why it's taking hours to boot up? Do I have to install any other file?
realz88 said:
Do you know why it's taking hours to boot up? Do I have to install any other file?
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not at all but it must be some problems at your side. try to wipe cache and Dalvik cache after Installation.
WiFi peap-sim
The wifi peap-sim is not working. Anyone have the same experience?

LineageOS 15.1 [H830][OREO 8.1][SEMI-STABLE][UNOFFICIAL]

LineageOS 15.1 for the H830 (LG G5)
Code:
*** Disclamer
I am not responsible for any damage that happens to your phone
What's this?
-- Its a slightly unstable build of LineageOS without any mods for the T-Mobile H830. To get charging to work, you must enable adb debugging in the developer menu of the settings app.
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Installation instructions
-- Download ROM from link and do a clean flash in TWRP
* -- (optional) install GAPPS
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Download
-- DOWNLOAD
https://mega.nz/#!kvYkibLA!TCrvx-teeoM1lJ4LuKkjIwepbOMYDCfd3lHy3m0q5xA
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Credits
-- LineageOS Team and the many contributers to the ROM
-- @Rashed97 for his contribution for the G5's progress
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Source
https://github.com/LineageOS
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XDA:DevDB Information
LineageOS 15.1 for the LG G5, ROM for the LG G5
Contributors
AutinDroid, Lineageos Team and everybody who contributed to its source
ROM OS Version: 8.x Oreo
Version Information
Status: Testing
Created 2017-12-26
Last Updated 2018-05-03
FAQ
What's broken?
-- Wifi, Quickcharge, Camera, NFC, Bluetooth, and probably a lot of other things I haven't tested.
What's not broken?
-- The built in voice recorder app is broken, but microphone works. Audio is all good.
How stable is the ROM?
-- Very unstable, crashes time to time, is pretty slow, gets pretty warm; in other words, its pretty bad.
What's special about this ROM?
-- It's just Oreo, vanilla lineageOS. Only thing I added was the always on display from the Pixel 2.
Why is X not working?
-- Because its broken.
Plz fix X
-- I'll try, but probably won't be able to
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What's comming?
-- I'll be doing another build, hopefully will fix some issues (not guaranteed)
Also, if anybody with more knowledge about ROM development could help, that would be great.
the link is broken!!!!!
Phong phamj said:
the link is broken!!!!!
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Fixed
probably it will take a few months to fix all the bug but eh, we waited this far anyway
It is a nice christmas present. Thx for doing it =)
any one tried this rom???
some screen shots??
rock-2 said:
any one tried this rom???
some screen shots??
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i tried it. it look great, oreo is really beautiful but like the man said, rom is still buggy so wait for the next build to fix
Great work man, keep it up! Is there any chance of a H850 version of this build in the future?
Deltachrome said:
Great work man, keep it up! Is there any chance of a H850 version of this build in the future?
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My computer is broken rn, but in the near future I can make a h850 build
you seem to be the only developer who care to bring us oreo. you should be praised as god
AutinDroid said:
Fixed
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It looks like the link is broken again.
black metallic said:
you seem to be the only developer who care to bring us oreo. you should be praised as god
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Holy, thx but no, I am not a proper developer to build 8.0, I can compile Android and fix errors, but I lack the fundamental skills in order to debug and fix problems. I am trying to learn how to fix broken functions, but it's going to be a long time till I will be able to be sufficient in Android development. I believe that for now, other devs such as Rashed should continue to support the devices, and I appreciate their hard work to bring Oreo to Android. As a matter of fact,all credit should go to these devs, not me. Also, I have one build that is half compiled, may fix wifi, but idk. Also link has been fixed (must have not fixed it properly)
Any chance to port this to RS988?
One day... Shortly after i am finished learning a new language i will be teaching myself rom building and will help... Provided i am still alive.....
If someone wants to check it out on h850...
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-9XEdE1L6Q1ZEVwdkhlNGthRDA
gismo2004 said:
If someone wants to check it out on h850...
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-9XEdE1L6Q1ZEVwdkhlNGthRDA
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Can you say something about the Rom on H850 ?
PrinceLc said:
Can you say something about the Rom on H850 ?
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Well, it's booting
I didn't tested a lot! I know that wlan, phone calls and Livedisplay is working.
Snap is crashing, but have not tested other cams...
I just have installed it to check out 8.1 and see what's different. Unfortunately I need my h850 for work, so I switched back to stable.
Will test more this week.
Cheers
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Well, it's booting
I didn't tested a lot! I know that wlan, phone calls and Livedisplay is working.
Snap is crashing, but have not tested other cams...
I just have installed it to check out 8.1 and see what's different. Unfortunately I need my h850 for work, so I switched back to stable.
Will test more this week.
Cheers
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Okay thanks for the info and good luck for maybe a stable version
gismo2004 said:
If someone wants to check it out on h850...
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-9XEdE1L6Q1ZEVwdkhlNGthRDA
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Tried installing it on my H850 but ended with : updater process ended with error 7 ; error instaling etc..

Question My unofficial PixelExperience builds for veux

I will be using this thread to post my unofficial builds of PE for veux, seeing as the last build was over a month ago.
I won't be making any source code changes, at least for the time being.
20230529 build: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m2jS2Gc6zx_OuxwZSeFunNlQ9BHZa6Od/view?usp=sharing (remember to flash vendor_boot and also flash the latest official recovery from the wiki)
Changelog:
First build, has May SP and passes SafetyNet, Magisk untested
Bugs:
Nothing so far, you tell me.
Thanks to jhenrique and rulim34
I understand that it is your first build and that it will have the May patch, but will you continue to maintain it? If so, you will have to try it to see how it goes
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I understand that it is your first build and that it will have the May patch, but will you continue to maintain it? If so, you will have to try it to see how it goes
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Yes,i will continue to build for veux, I am currently running the build linked above
invitedguest said:
Yes,i will continue to build for veux, I am currently running the build linked above
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As long as it works stably and updates its security patch once a month, like the pixels, I'm satisfied, I don't need optimizations or modifications or anything, the simplest in the aosp style and with the pixel style, I Will try after
ruperxl89 said:
As long as it works stably and updates its security patch once a month, like the pixels, I'm satisfied, I don't need optimizations or modifications or anything, the simplest in the aosp style and with the pixel style, I Will try after
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I will build every month as soon as the latest SP is merged into the tree
Ah
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I will build every month as soon as the latest SP is merged into the tree
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That's great for me, I'll install it as soon as I can and I'll comment, some Telegram group or something? It would be perfect because I'm sure there are more like me interested
No telegram group yet, willing to create one if there's enough demand
invitedguest said:
No telegram group yet, willing to create one if there's enough demand
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Ok thanks, if you create this, tell me please
Great work, this rom is working very good, I encourage everyone to try it and the developer to move it around Telegram so that people have it handy
I just installed your rom and it seem perfect..
With the official April release hey Google was broken for me, your it's ok
I will test it.
Thank You for share your job!
emme1 said:
I just installed your rom and it seem perfect..
With the official April release hey Google was broken for me, your it's ok
I will test it.
Thank You for share your job!
for you work fine hey Google? Witch display off also??
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Then work ok Google for you With display off or nota??thanks

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