CyanogenMOD 14.1 for falcon
README
1. Don't report bugs/battery usage/performance: they will be fixed in new CM builds.
2. For the broken things wait for Luk1337, luca020400 and Gabriel M to fix them.
3. I am noob so don't ask me things like include apps or fix something.
4. It's an early build
5. If you have questions you post in this thread
6. I will make new builds if there is a new fix or stuff like that.
7. Enjoy !
Install instructions:
1. Flash the .zip file using TWRP.
2. Flash open gapps
3. Enjoy !
DOWNLOAD:
AFH
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224388939
Working:
- Display
- GPU
- CPU
- RIL (Mobile Data & SMS)
- Sound & Vibration
- GPS & compass
- Installing apps using Play Store
- short: everything is working (I think)
HUGE THANKS TO: luca020400, Luk1337, Gabriele M, Matthias Y, Cyanogen, Google, men_in_black007 (On IRC), DevUt (On IRC) and other people that I can't remember that helped me to build this
Sources:
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_falcon
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_motorola_msm8226
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_msm8226-common
You made it!
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BryanByteZ said:
You made it!
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I made it but a lot of things are broken. If everyone is lucky including me...A new build will come in a few hours...
thanks bro <3
willizambrano01 said:
thanks bro <3
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Don't thank me yet, beacuse it's buggy when it comes to booting on my device. sometimes it boots sometimes not.
Eurofighter_ty said:
Don't thank me yet, beacuse it's buggy when it comes to booting on my device. sometimes it boots sometimes not.
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do not worry, the idea is to start, that's something
willizambrano01 said:
do not worry, the idea is to start, that's something
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I don't promise but a new build will come in a few hours. if everything goes well.
Can you try to build for moto g 2014 too? (They have same hardware specs)
Zenzero
Good job bro! Glad you got the build up and running. Hope things get fixed and I'll try to commit next weekend, if I have time.
I have a Moto G as secondary device. If you want I can try new builds or anything else.
cris_webb said:
I have a Moto G as secondary device. If you want I can try new builds or anything else.
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If there are new builds I am going to post here
Nice bro...
Screenshots?
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good job
thanks, great job!!!!
Stock at select language
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itsdetavp said:
Stock at select language
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if it also happens to me, not moving
itsdetavp said:
Stock at select language
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if it also happens to me, not moving
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You need to replace the build.prop file in order to get around this.
please
Eurofighter_ty said:
You need to replace the build.prop file in order to get around this.
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as a replacement file using the recovery ? please as I am newbie
luisfelipevides said:
as a replacement file using the recovery ? please as I am newbie
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Yes, you copy the build.prop file from sd card to the system partition.
Related
Hey guys, Motorola has pushed out an update to its Motorola Camera app that brings along manual exposure controls, letting users make the subject brighter or darker before taking the picture. Also included in this update is some bug fixes, which is always helpful. Manual controls are nothing new, but it is still great to see Motorola add more options for its users.
I share a zip to get the latest version of the camera and gallery in ROMs CyanogenMod 12.1, Paranoid, AICP and all those with Android based Lollipop 5.x.x
Installation:
Download zip file and copy to sdcard.
Reboot en recovery mode (TWRP)
Install zip
Wipe cache/dalvick
Reboot
Done!!
Download:
Update v3
CHANGELOG:
v1
Initial release
Camera is active the advanced options (hidden menu)
v2
Enabled updates from google play store :good:
V3
Fix force close when the photo editor is used in the gallery.
Note 1: Not working slowmotion (confirm if present this bug!) :crying:
Note 2: Removal Moto Camera&Gallery Script add (here)
Thank you for this, better than Google camera (in my opinion).?
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Works on AOSP Android 4.4.4???
can this work on aosp 4.4.4 roms? like liquid?
cesarguaro said:
can this work on aosp 4.4.4 roms? like liquid?
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Why dont u try..?
Take a nanoid backup..
Flash this (it should work most probably)..
If u r having problems restore backup..
Always the best way to try out new things..
I´m trying right now
Niteshdcool said:
Why dont u try..?
Take a nanoid backup..
Flash this (it should work most probably)..
If u r having problems restore backup..
Always the best way to try out new things..
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i decided to make the try of the zip on liquid rom kitkat, and it doesnt work hehehe, im fact the zip delete the camera and gallery app, but i have to try, it just for lollipop...
thanks anyway a great zip for those who need the moto camera...!!! i hope i can find the same for kk roms
cesarguaro said:
i decided to make the try of the zip on liquid rom kitkat, and it doesnt work hehehe, im fact the zip delete the camera and gallery app, but i have to try, it just for lollipop...
thanks anyway a great zip for those who need the moto camera...!!! i hope i can find the same for kk roms
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Well it worked for me though.. Maybe coz im in a 5.1.x rom..
But hey, thanks for trying.. As ur post might just help another person looking for the same answer!
I flashed this over CM12.1. Anyone else get soft reboots when using the camera through a locked phone (shake shake shake)?
Unlocked the camera works fine.
I'm on the latest AICP and I've noticed that flashing this breaks theming Any solutions?
phatmanesk said:
I'm on the latest AICP and I've noticed that flashing this breaks theming Any solutions?
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remove the gallery and reboot, quickpic works better
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Says file not found?
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tazlooney89 said:
https://mega.co.nz/#!qg4lwbrZ!0BwqN35cuFKBTbGVQlLgaEG2PkYC5Tw0SWaqM-mt9m8
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Link not working for me ... anywhere else??
Not working anymore
cdiamond said:
Says file not found?
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d0g said:
Link not working for me ... anywhere else??
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alexferdean said:
Not working anymore
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I'm sorry, update file with fix bug.
Crashing for me with AOSP 5.1.1
Does it work with cm12.1?
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ajsonofgod said:
Does it work with cm12.1?
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Yes it does.
But cant set to save pics to SD card!?
Does it work on moto g 2 cm12.1?
Any chance to make a zip with only Camera? Please.
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rodaven said:
Any chance to make a zip with only Camera? Please.
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+1 :good:
The last version don't sync with google play store...
CsR0501 said:
+1 :good:
The last version don't sync with google play store...
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I'm using the one from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3124309
See the file attached on first post, that one has only the camera.
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Hi, I'm a 13 year old who loves Android development. Me and @gwolfu have worked our asses off to finally get Resurrection Remix to boot on the G5, and both builds are finally booting and are super stable and ready to go!
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BRICKS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU DO TO YOUR PHONE, FLASH AT YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY.
Please report back and let me know what works and what doesn't.
DOWNLOADS IN SECOND POST
Instructions:
Download ROM and Gapps (Pico is recommended)
Wipe data, cache, and davlik cache
Flash ROM but not Gapps
Boot into ROM
Boot back into recovery
Flash Gapps
Enjoy!
(IF YOU FLASHED A ROM THAT REPLACES THE STOCK CAMERA, INSTALL SNAP.APK IN THE SECOND POST)
CREDITS:
https://github.com/ConquestDev
@drsn0w for building CM h830
@King_lilrowrow for building CM h850
@nima0003 ME for doing this project
@gwolfu For building the H850 RR
H830: New build compiling, should be up by 4pm mountain time tomo.
H850 (managed by @gwolfu) : https://gwolf2u.com/download/resurrectionremix-m-v5-7-4-20161028-h850/
nima0003 said:
H830: Uploading
h850: Uploading
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When it's up I will lab rat it up for you
Sounds good, thanks!
Nick216ohio said:
When it's up I will lab rat it up for you
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H830 is up!
nima0003 said:
H830 is up!
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Downloading now will let you know asap
shaneg79 said:
Downloading now will let you know asap
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Alright!
H850 is up!
nima0003 said:
Alright!
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Its a no go it wont flash in twrp with error - updater process ended with error: 7 Error installing zip file '/external_sd/download/RRh830TEST.zip'
shaneg79 said:
Its a no go it wont flash in twrp with error - updater process ended with error: 7 Error installing zip file '/external_sd/download/RRh830TEST.zip'
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Thank you, currently fixing it.
nima0003 said:
Thank you, currently fixing it.
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sounds good will retry once new one is up!
nima0003 said:
Thank you, currently fixing it.
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Just reporting, but yeah same as him. Will test the crap out of each build for you.
Nick216ohio said:
Just reporting, but yeah same as him. Will test the crap out of each build for you.
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Thank you, that means a lot to me.
Bro Can u port lg remote app from stock for this rom?
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Great news!! RR was one of my favorites roms on my g3
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RR was my rom of choice on my S4 before getting the G5 ... can't wait to get a working build :good: :victory:
jwensouls said:
Bro Can u port lg remote app from stock for this rom?
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It can't be done mate, the libs and everything is different!
Nathan
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sevsman said:
It can't be done mate, the libs and everything is different!
Nathan
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Becouse i see that an other dev port the app for g3 and the say that probrably work else for g5...all is good, flash Work, the app Work but the Phone dont recognize the quickset apk and dont find manufacter for the tv...maybe is only an small problem, i try all fix but nothing change...but if u cant do nothing ty no problem
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jwensouls said:
Becouse i see that an other dev port the app for g3 and the say that probrably work else for g5...all is good, flash Work, the app Work but the Phone dont recognize the quickset apk and dont find manufacter for the tv...maybe is only an small problem, i try all fix but nothing change...but if u cant do nothing ty no problem
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I have told you many, many times: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/themes/quickremote-aosp-t3481703/page1
Just a quick update for everyone, I will be out of town for today, but I will keep working on it at night. MEANWHILE, YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING TO PLAY WITH: For anyone that wants stereo sound using the front speaker replace the mixer_paths.xml in the etc folder. THIS WILL ONLY WORK ON CM 13 ON THE LG G5!!! Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7S6ou836i7AVFZoYW1ROGFlaTg/view?usp=drivesdk
Papps
An open source installer for the Google Pixel specific apps and files.
Enjoy the Google Pixel experience on any Android device!
If your device has a chipset with an ARM64 architecture, then you are one zip away from the Google Pixel experience on your device!
Downloads
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=126245
Installation instructions
1. Reboot your device into TWRP recovery
2. Flash Papps-XXX.zip
3. Wipe Cache/Dalvik
4. Reboot
5. Navigate to Settings and give permissions to Dialer (or IncallUI won't work!)
Contribute to this project on GitHub
https://github.com/alexisbosman/Papps.git
To be found on GitHub:
- Which stuff it will delete & install
- Known bugs & issues
Contributors
@alexis.bosman
Latest stable version: 1.0
>> Screenshots coming soon!
TouchWiz? Note5
awesome, I will test this tonight when i flash an update of my current ROM
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Tested on Krexus rom (Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro), works really great! Only add a premission to a dialer app, if anyone missed it So very cool, thank your work!
can you send some screenshots
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It works with Android 6.0? tks you
Please a screenshots. Thx
javierduran said:
TouchWiz? Note5
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Didn't try that yet, but maybe!
Loo Ney said:
awesome, I will test this tonight when i flash an update of my current ROM
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That's great! Which ROM/device are you using?
Steve1207 said:
Tested on Krexus rom (Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro), works really great! Only add a premission to a dialer app, if anyone missed it So very cool, thank your work!
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Yeah, I will mention that on the OP
Loo Ney said:
can you send some screenshots
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Yup, I will add some screenies on the OP
romano19 said:
It works with Android 6.0? tks you
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Should work, but didn't test it though
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That's great! Which ROM/device are you using?
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Nitrogen OS 7.1 running of Nexus 5
with this, it should work
Loo Ney said:
Nitrogen OS 7.1 running of Nexus 5
with this, it should work
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Yes definitely
Can i know if by installing this, other app will be replaced... Or just adding whitout deleting the app ready installed on devices... I can't try now... But tomorrow i will do. Thx
Where is the list of installed app when I install this papps? IMO, You should provide it at OP.
But, really thanks for this one.
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zampotonic said:
Can i know if by installing this, other app will be replaced... Or just adding whitout deleting the app ready installed on devices... I can't try now... But tomorrow i will do. Thx
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febry_valdy said:
Where is the list of installed app when I install this papps? IMO, You should provide it at OP.
But, really thanks for this one.
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Some AOSP and CM apps will be replaced with the equivalent Pixel ones. You can check which ones exactly on the github README page.
Doesn't work on official cyanogenmd 13
alexis.bosman said:
Some AOSP and CM apps will be replaced with the equivalent Pixel ones. You can check which ones exactly on the github README page.
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This is my feedback...
First of all thank you for this zip package... unfortunately does not work (at least on my phone)! After flashing the zip of Papps I found myself without any app of those who where to be replaced...
Trough the file manager (on system app)... I saw that there were all the apk... but they were not installed. I also tried installing every single apk manually but the process is not successful! Error message: app not installed!
And only 1 apk of those,was in error analysis.
So i think there is any probraly incompatibility whit my rom version.
Luckily I had made a backup with TWRP... and I could reset the phone! Because i was whitout the default app and was annoing reinstalling all.
P.S. the only app that was ready installed after i did the zip flash, was the "phone apk".
Anywhere... BIG THX FOR YOUR WORK! I hope in any solution for make this work on my device.
Features of my phone are as follows:
LG G2 mini D620
OFFICIAL CM13 ROM
Gapps 6.0 (micro)
Twrp 3.0.2 recovery installed
alexis.bosman said:
Some AOSP and CM apps will be replaced with the equivalent Pixel ones. You can check which ones exactly on the github README page.
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Wow, good
Thanks dude.
Oh ya, one more thing, do I need to wipe cache and dalvik cache after flashing this PAPPS ?
Nb : after looking at the size of the installer .zip, I was wondering how much space in /system will it reside ? cos I have not really much free space in /system. And also, how much free space in the /system would you recommend me to have ?
Thanks and really sorry for such many questions.
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Which apps does it install?
Lineage & RR are great ROMs (MoKee is a misunderstanding), but I was looking for something lighter on resources.
Since nothing else was on the market, I got to building PureNexus for lithium.
Below is the 1st build; please test & report.
I have not tried it yet as I'm going on a trip.
OP will be corrected after the weekend.
Credits go to Lineage, PureNexus & of course @pappschlumpf.
Missing credits will be added (let me know).
Download: MOD EDIT: Download link removed; the build obviously doesn't boot.
If you want a rom that is stable, fast, light and close to stock aosp with a few important customizations then purenexus is for you.
Thank you very much adwinp ?
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Uouuu... This device is getting better and better every week. Thanks mate!
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Low battery usage is my priority so I 'll be using this to see the difference with lineage os, also are there any low battery kernels ?
For me it´s not booting stays on Android logo ( Lineage OS boots perfectly ) . What am i doing wrong ?
YazumiWuHung said:
For me it´s not booting stays on Android logo ( Lineage OS boots perfectly ) . What am i doing wrong ?
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Same here. Keep showing android logo. Not booting.
İ give it a try ?
egentreri said:
İ give it a try ?
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Egentreri please tell us if it boots properly for you ...i don´t know what i´m doing wrong hmphhh. Thanks in advance.
Not booting
Might have to wait for the OP to get back from vacation so he can test it more thouroughly
SantinoInc said:
Might have to wait for the OP to get back from vacation so he can test it more thouroughly
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Not booting also...I think the OP is not serious to publish without trying himself...bad !
not booting whatever I tried
hovnovice said:
Not booting also...I think the OP is not serious to publish without trying himself...bad !
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He is. That's what we do here. Test and report. Then we thank them from the bottom of our hearts and then (optional) we donate!
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mohammed510 said:
He is. That's what we do here. Test and report. Then we thank them from the bottom of our hearts and then (optional) we donate!
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Sorry , i am mot a tester, I am a user . And when its good I always donate (Several timies to Papps.. for instance)
N.B : In this case , what do you want to test if it does not even boot.--? (you back your ROM , download this one , install it and it does not boot...if you feel happy with , good for you )
Have you tried to flash my kernel?
pappschlumpf said:
Have you tried to flash my kernel?
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I will try and report
hovnovice said:
Not booting also...I think the OP is not serious to publish without trying himself...bad !
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As mentioned in the OP, I posted just before going on a trip & will work on the build once I come back.
I don't have access to my build machine for now.
In the meantime, I thought it would be useful to query for feedback in order to have pertinent data for troubleshooting.
Any such feedback is welcome: have u tried flashing papps' kernel?
Are you able to share logs?
adwinp said:
As mentioned in the OP, I posted just before going on a trip & will work on the build once I come back.
I don't have access to my build machine for now.
In the meantime, I thought it would be useful to query for feedback in order to have pertinent data for troubleshooting.
Any such feedback is welcome: have u tried flashing papps' kernel?
Are you able to share logs?
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I tried with kernel Papps ...not booting either
Thread closed - OP, please PM me once your builds boot and I'll reopen the thread.
Yup, it's again me
Just the new pixel launcher for Android 5.0 and above
Pixel Launcher O-3952143 (201)
How to install :
Uninstall old pixel launcher
Reboot into recovery
Flash the zip
Reboot
Done
If it's not working , extract the APK from the zip and install it manually (only work for pixel launcher installed on /system )
And if those two method don't work , try to uninstall your old pixel launcher first and after flash the zip
Thanks to @Sher1234 who solve this issue
RaiZDroid handmade
Please hit this :good:
Download: (Clic On The QUOTE)
RaiZProduction said:
Important Update : fixed pixel launcher (for those how can't installed it)
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Here some Screenshots of the Launcher 's new shortcut UI
Not work using kenzo - aex
harizinside said:
Not work using kenzo - aex
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I'm using aex on surnia , I'm on arm and there wasn't any info about the arch on apkmirror
So I don't know if the zip is working for all arch
Please, tell me your problem with more details
Just Extract the apk from zip & install it manually it will work perfectly if your device previously had Pixel Launcher in /system/
I'm using it that way & it works great
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Here Some screenshot
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Sher1234 said:
Here Some screenshot
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You are correct , I've just seen a post on the aex community who said it was working for kenzo without flashing anything , I'm sorry
Great job
RaiZProduction said:
You are correct , I've just seen a post on the aex community who said it was working for kenzo without flashing anything , I'm sorry
Great job
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Still not work, i do't know any other way please?
harizinside said:
Still not work, i do't know any other way please?
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Did you try to uninstall the old version before flashing the zip ??
RaiZProduction said:
Did you try to uninstall the old version before flashing the zip ??
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Not, is it must coz i thin'k it's will be replaced
harizinside said:
Not, is it must coz i thin'k it's will be replaced
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Yes , normally it's automatically replaced but try this method anyway , with some luck , it will work (I sincerely hope )
The zip installation didn't worked for me, but the manual installation works! thanks !
Quentinomino said:
The zip installation didn't worked for me, but the manual installation works! thanks !
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Your Welcome
Hi guys I got the surnia xt1527 with twrp and root , Idont know if is possible to install this zip because I have te official room android 6.0 rooted? will it work? Thanks
josefojusti40 said:
Hi guys I got the surnia xt1527 with twrp and root , Idont know if is possible to install this zip because I have te official room android 6.0 rooted? will it work? Thanks
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It will.
This APP is for Android 5.0 and above
francois amon said:
It will.
My doubt is as a result that I have the original rom stock with root, and I know the mayority of surnia users have cyanogenmod or lineage
Besides , over the last days I´ve been reading differents articles about the new pixel launcher android O (mod) but only for android 6.0.1 but in my case I have only 6.0.
I came back to official rom a week ago because either cyanogenmod and lineage never allowed to install the official radio by motorola and I consider that moto app the best in his class, and sorry about my english.
Thanks
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josefojusti40 said:
francois amon said:
It will.
My doubt is as a result that I have the original rom stock with root, and I know the mayority of surnia users have cyanogenmod or lineage
Besides , over the last days I´ve been reading differents articles about the new pixel launcher android O (mod) but only for android 6.0.1 but in my case I have only 6.0.
I came back to official rom a week ago because either cyanogenmod and lineage never allowed to install the official radio by motorola and I consider that moto app the best in his class, and sorry about my english.
Thanks
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Oh so i understand
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RaiZProduction said:
I'm using aex on surnia , I'm on arm and there wasn't any info about the arch on apkmirror
So I don't know if the zip is working for all arch
Please, tell me your problem with more details
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In my case I can´t install with twrp and with apk is the same I can´t, I suppose the mayority users can install it because the use aosp but I have the room stock.
josefojusti40 said:
In my case I can´t install with twrp and with apk is the same I can´t, I suppose the mayority users can install it because the use aosp but I have the room stock.
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You should uninstall your old pixel launcher first and after flash the zip
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In my case I can´t install with twrp and with apk is the same I can´t, I suppose the mayority users can install it because the use aosp but I have the room stock.
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Sorry if my answer came late (jet lag ) ????