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Just a quick question regarding Polaris Office and the HDMI connection (I've looked for an answer here and outside of XDA, but I can't find anything). I'm looking to see if I can cut the laptop tether when I'm lecturing and use Polaris, connecting to a projector via HDMI. Those of you using the tablet already, will Polaris recognise the HDMI port and, even better, will it output slides to it while showing notes on the tablet?
Thanks
I think a better question is "does this thing have full HDMI out?" If not, we will have to put a pool together to buy one for Shinzul
RikF said:
Just a quick question regarding Polaris Office and the HDMI connection (I've looked for an answer here and outside of XDA, but I can't find anything). I'm looking to see if I can cut the laptop tether when I'm lecturing and use Polaris, connecting to a projector via HDMI. Those of you using the tablet already, will Polaris recognise the HDMI port and, even better, will it output slides to it while showing notes on the tablet?
Thanks
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I just checked this out for you and unfortunately it's largely bad news. Yes, you can output Polaris via HDMI (as indeed you can output anything on the Transformer screen via HDMI) but you can't have notes on the tablet while having the slides on the screen simply because all the Transformer can do is mirroring, so whatever is on the tablet screen is mirrored on the external display.
Also the way that it outputs powerpoint slides is very limited. There are no transition effects, slide-ins, etc, it just throws up the whole slide. So, I'm not sure that this will be terribly useful for you. I also tried it with another Office suite I have (Docs to Go) and the situation was pretty much the same. However, other Office apps may do better in displaying powerpoint (I believe there is QuickOffice as well as Picsel Office, but I don't have either of those).
Also, I don't know if it's different if you create the Powerpoint within Polaris itself, I just used a PPT file I had to hand, maybe things are different when it's actually created with the app itself. If I have time, I'll give it a go.
daweiteh said:
I think a better question is "does this thing have full HDMI out?" If not, we will have to put a pool together to buy one for Shinzul
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And a better answer would be....yes, it does
I ended up with the note after replacing my tf101 with the tf300 and tested the note and loved it in every way.
I'm not really even missing the keyboard dock and finding many ways to use the spen on a regular basis.
What I'd love though is to basically use the note as a digital whiteboard for teaching. Essentially to be able to write in smote or quill while sending the screen display over wifi to the PC connected to the projector system. Is there any way to do this? To do a live screencast from the note to a PC?
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jeggen said:
I ended up with the note after replacing my tf101 with the tf300 and tested the note and loved it in every way.
I'm not really even missing the keyboard dock and finding many ways to use the spen on a regular basis.
What I'd love though is to basically use the note as a digital whiteboard for teaching. Essentially to be able to write in smote or quill while sending the screen display over wifi to the PC connected to the projector system. Is there any way to do this? To do a live screencast from the note to a PC?
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AllShare?
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AllShare?
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Have had zero luck even getting it to connect. PC install didn't work at work, tried at home and apparently needed to let it restart and then install all over. Still cannot connect the device though, device always scans when I turn on AllShare cat in network and Allshare on the PC recognizes an "intel" device. Thought for sure the Note would appear there.
Any tips on how to use it?
Does it actually do this? I gave up on it because what I see on Samsung's website only talks about sharing music/video and I didn't see any mention of streaming the tablet display to the PC. (Except the idea that you could watch a game on the PC, but see nothing about this in the app itself.)
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Have had zero luck even getting it to connect. PC install didn't work at work, tried at home and apparently needed to let it restart and then install all over. Still cannot connect the device though, device always scans when I turn on AllShare cat in network and Allshare on the PC recognizes an "intel" device. Thought for sure the Note would appear there.
Any tips on how to use it?
Does it actually do this? I gave up on it because what I see on Samsung's website only talks about sharing music/video and I didn't see any mention of streaming the tablet display to the PC. (Except the idea that you could watch a game on the PC, but see nothing about this in the app itself.)
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Were you able to figure this out? I'm a teacher as well and do things with my HP tablet, but really want to with many Note.
You can execute AllShare through Samsung Kies, as well.
My suggestion would be to try and look at Remotes. You may be able to find drawing input ones. I use Unified Remote for using my phone/tablet as an input device. Although, the free version is limited to about 13 remotes or so. With the pro version you get it up in it's 50's. I'm not sure if this has what you're looking for but you can make your own custom remotes.
Or, alternatively, you can use a Remote Desktop client. Some of these may adjust your screen resolution on the PC so it fits well in the Note 10, but you can easily change it back. But it'll effect the view on the tablet. For this, I use Splashtop 2 HD.
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You can execute AllShare through Samsung Kies, as well.
My suggestion would be to try and look at Remotes. You may be able to find drawing input ones. I use Unified Remote for using my phone/tablet as an input device. Although, the free version is limited to about 13 remotes or so. With the pro version you get it up in it's 50's. I'm not sure if this has what you're looking for but you can make your own custom remotes.
Or, alternatively, you can use a Remote Desktop client. Some of these may adjust your screen resolution on the PC so it fits well in the Note 10, but you can easily change it back. But it'll effect the view on the tablet. For this, I use Splashtop 2 HD.
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What is Samsung Kies and what is Remotes?
I've done some investigating and I think the only way that AllShare works to screencast to another device is to send it to an AllShare Play device. Unfortunately I don't think (but really hope I'm wrong) the PC software works this way.
I'm curious, has anyone tried the VNC Server for Android and tried connecting in a view mode on a PC?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIm9yZy5vbmFpcHMudm5jIl0.
perhaps this is what you are looking for?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.WHITEBOARD&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
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jeggen said:
I ended up with the note after replacing my tf101 with the tf300 and tested the note and loved it in every way.
I'm not really even missing the keyboard dock and finding many ways to use the spen on a regular basis.
What I'd love though is to basically use the note as a digital whiteboard for teaching. Essentially to be able to write in smote or quill while sending the screen display over wifi to the PC connected to the projector system. Is there any way to do this? To do a live screencast from the note to a PC?
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This is the setup I use and would suggest to everone in need to present from Galaxy Note 10.1:
buy Allshare Cast dongle , search for it on Amazon
buy HDMI to VGA adapter
connect HDMI to VGA adapter to projector and Allshare to A/C
on Note 10.1, Settings/More Settings/AllShareCast, the dongle will be detected something like "Dongle-xxxxx", tap to connect
When connected, start to present, wireless, move in the room, take the S-Pen and highlight the important topics etc.
On that way, no hassles with connection to PC/laptop and then to projector. AND the coolness factor is priceless! Every time I present there is a WOW factor, the downturn is sometimes people are not listening to my presentation but wants to see the technology.
And the Apple fanboys in the meetings around with their iPads - can you imagine several of them told me "nah, that is PROPRIETARY technology" !? LOL! I was very respectful before to other people opinions and personally I am very thankful to the genius work of Steve Jobs but in recent time I simple shoot back very sharp - face it, Apple funboy!
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This is the setup I use and would suggest to everone in need to present from Galaxy Note 10.1:
buy Allshare Cast dongle , search for it on Amazon
buy HDMI to VGA adapter
connect HDMI to VGA adapter to projector and Allshare to A/C
on Note 10.1, Settings/More Settings/AllShareCast, the dongle will be detected something like "Dongle-xxxxx", tap to connect
When connected, start to present, wireless, move in the room, take the S-Pen and highlight the important topics etc.
On that way, no hassles with connection to PC/laptop and then to projector. AND the coolness factor is priceless! Every time I present there is a WOW factor, the downturn is sometimes people are not listening to my presentation but wants to see the technology.
And the Apple fanboys in the meetings around with their iPads - can you imagine several of them told me "nah, that is PROPRIETARY technology" !? LOL! I was very respectful before to other people opinions and personally I am very thankful to the genius work of Steve Jobs but in recent time I simple shoot back very sharp - face it, Apple funboy!
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Is thi similar to AppleTV and Airplay? Does it mirror everything at all times or only certain apps? Thanks for your help!!!
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Is thi similar to AppleTV and Airplay? Does it mirror everything at all times or only certain apps? Thanks for your help!!!
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I don not own any Apple product and cannot say anything about it.
Everything what you can see on your Note 10.1 screen you are seeing parallel on the second display. I have tested it with several projectors from Dell, Sony, signal to those devices over their VGA ports and the experience is exactly the same to one with the laptop connected to the projector. The best result is via HDMI port, majority of the business projectors do not have one but monitors and TV have them and the result is gorgeous, beside the screen the audio is transferred too.
The video player is optimized for the AllShare Cast, when playing you can see the video on the second screen and on Note 10.1 you have the control menu.
Polaris office works fine too, same experience, WYSIWYG on both screens. For slides (aka PowerPoint), when connected to AllShare Cast dongle, the slide show button clicked shows the selection of
Primary display
Dual monitor
Controller & Note
but only the Primary display selection switches to presenter mode. Even then, the pen modes is active so you can annotate with S-Pen direct on the slides during the presentation, the killing feature for me.
Small downturn - multiscreen is not working when connected to Allshare Cast dongle, only single screens, but the floating helicopter videos is working and that is impressive for entertaining the people after the work is done :fingers-crossed:.
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I don not own any Apple product and cannot say anything about it.
Everything what you can see on your Note 10.1 screen you are seeing parallel on the second display. I have tested it with several projectors from Dell, Sony, signal to those devices over their VGA ports and the experience is exactly the same to one with the laptop connected to the projector. The best result is via HDMI port, majority of the business projectors do not have one but monitors and TV have them and the result is gorgeous, beside the screen the audio is transferred too.
The video player is optimized for the AllShare Cast, when playing you can see the video on the second screen and on Note 10.1 you have the control menu.
Polaris office works fine too, same experience, WYSIWYG on both screens. For slides (aka PowerPoint), when connected to AllShare Cast dongle, the slide show button clicked shows the selection of
Primary display
Dual monitor
Controller & Note
but only the Primary display selection switches to presenter mode. Even then, the pen modes is active so you can annotate with S-Pen direct on the slides during the presentation, the killing feature for me.
Small downturn - multiscreen is not working when connected to Allshare Cast dongle, only single screens, but the floating helicopter videos is working and that is impressive for entertaining the people after the work is done :fingers-crossed:.
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That sounds amazing. I'd love to see a video of it all in action. Sounds great, especially being able to run a presentation and markup with the pen, but would like to see it before dropping about $100 on the setup.
I've been testing splashtop whiteboard but have had problems getting it to connect. Sometimes it will.... sometimes it won't. Would prefer to just screencast and run everything from the tablet anyway. The presentation mode sounds impressive and ability to swith into Sketchbook or snotes would be great.
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I don not own any Apple product and cannot say anything about it.
Everything what you can see on your Note 10.1 screen you are seeing parallel on the second display. I have tested it with several projectors from Dell, Sony, signal to those devices over their VGA ports and the experience is exactly the same to one with the laptop connected to the projector. The best result is via HDMI port, majority of the business projectors do not have one but monitors and TV have them and the result is gorgeous, beside the screen the audio is transferred too.
The video player is optimized for the AllShare Cast, when playing you can see the video on the second screen and on Note 10.1 you have the control menu.
Polaris office works fine too, same experience, WYSIWYG on both screens. For slides (aka PowerPoint), when connected to AllShare Cast dongle, the slide show button clicked shows the selection of
Primary display
Dual monitor
Controller & Note
but only the Primary display selection switches to presenter mode. Even then, the pen modes is active so you can annotate with S-Pen direct on the slides during the presentation, the killing feature for me.
Small downturn - multiscreen is not working when connected to Allshare Cast dongle, only single screens, but the floating helicopter videos is working and that is impressive for entertaining the people after the work is done :fingers-crossed:.
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First off thank you for your help and input. My school is going to purchase this for me but I have one additional question. We do not have HDMI projectors in our building. I was wondering if an HDMI-VGA adapter would work? It will not provide true 1080P but that is a non-issue for me. I only want to be able to project the S-Note or any note app so my students can take notes on what I am writing. Again thank you for your help.
shrek4224 said:
First off thank you for your help and input. My school is going to purchase this for me but I have one additional question. We do not have HDMI projectors in our building. I was wondering if an HDMI-VGA adapter would work? It will not provide true 1080P but that is a non-issue for me. I only want to be able to project the S-Note or any note app so my students can take notes on what I am writing. Again thank you for your help.
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I use Gold Plated Premium HDMI to VGA Active M/F Adapter in White by Cable Matters (still cannot post links, just search for it on amazon) and it works, tested on several company's Dell and Sony projectors with VGA port.
FYI - I filed a support ticket with Polaris Office about not being able to use the different display modes. This was their response.
Dear customer,
Thank you for the inquiry.
We knew this issue already, we’re working on it now.
We’ll try hard to figure out the issue and let you know as soon as we’ve got the solution.
Please be patient and understand about it.
We will try hard to repay you for all your kindness.
Thanks for your interest.
Polaris Office CS Team
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Hopefully they have a solution soon. The only thing that would improve this setup is being able to use the Controller & Note presentation mode.
Anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong? .I can project the screen when the dongle is connected with HDMI, but when I connect with an HDMI to VGA converter the Allshate Cast automatically shuts down and the Note restarts.
Anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong? .I can project the screen when the dongle is connected with HDMI, but when I connect with an HDMI to VGA converter the Allshate Cast automatically shuts down and the Note restarts.
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Did you figure this out? I would not like to make the dongle purchase if this is bound to happen....
did anyone manage to solve the display mirroring to PC software?
I found another way to get very good results in mirroring wirelessly from Note to PC: Teamviewer. Download the free app from the play market, and also the free PC client from the Teamviewer website. A tad laggy, but works well for presentations.
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could tell me please the type of hdmi to vga adapter exactly with the manufacturing code, there is a lot of staff on the market and I am pretty sure not all of them are working, thanks
I just got the dongle. It works great!
A few comments:
(1) For rooted device (like mine), the app "triangle away" is needed. The dongle works after (but not before) I reset the counting using triangle away. For un-rooted devices (the device is un-rooted if you didn't root it yourself) it shouldn't be an issue.
(2) The dongle works with a hdmi-VGA converter. The one I bought is this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Matte...7O2U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358947513&sr=8-1
I am sure lots of other converters should work as well. But there may be two things to note. It would be safer if
(a) "Active" converters should have more chance to work than "passive" converters. There is an IC chip in active converters. The passive ones are just data lines.
(b) Make sure the converter does not need too much power to work. The one I bought is raspberry PI compatible. This typically mean the converter the current it draws from the device is not too large. In some previous post it is mentioned the dongle could reset when connected to VGA converters. I doubt it may because of too much power required by the converter.
(3) I didn't notice any lag or instability issues with 30 minutes of use (I installed a firmware update before usage. The discovery of update and installation is automatic. I just clicked OK).
I didn't (and will not) use it to play games or watch movies anyway. I only want to use it to do presentations via projectors. Games and movies transfers much more data, in which case I haven't tested.
I will update if I got problems using the dongle for a longer time.
(4) The "multi-window app" feature goes away when the dongle is connected. (It re-appears after disconnection.)
UPDATE:
After more test, there do exist a few problems:
(1) If I play a video in full screen (both youtube video online or downloaded videos using MXplayer), the video is only shown on external display. Even worse, when I exit the full screen mode of the video player, the allshare connection typically crashes. I need to go to settings to connect again (no reboot needed though).
On the other hand, for youtube without going to full screen, there is no problem. And when I compare the two displays, there is no lag between them.
(2) In polaris office, only the "primary display" mode works well. In other two modes, the external screen only update partially.
Both of them should be software problems. If I don't do (1) of the above, I never met crash or disconnections. I didn't test the device with games. There is no random disconnection so far (this is most important for me).
The connection is stable within 10 meters, while it breaks at about 30 meters (together with 2 doors blocking the space).
Finally, there is a drop of display quantity if the image is quickly changing, and I watch closely enough. But considering I only need to display static images, this is not a problem. The display quantity of static images is great. Compared with the TeamViewer + computer solution, the dongle uses less resources on the tablet and gives much better image quality. The usage of battery is not heavily affected either. I used in total 7% battery power per hour for light usage of the tablet with dongle connection (and among which the tablet screen still used most of battery as usual).
I recently picked up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. It supports Allshare Cast, which is essentially Samsung's version of Miracast, but requires an Allshare Cast dongle. I've reached a point where I'm no longer buying a bunch of expensive accessories for a phone I'll probably have for a year or 2.
I also have an iPad 3. Using a program called Airserver, I can mirror my iPad's display onto my media center PC. I thought I would be able to do with with my Note 2 and the Allshare PC software, but the software doesn't support Allshare Cast (and likely never will, since they seem interested in getting people to buy the proprietary dongle). It only supports Allshare Play, which is DLNA and unsuitable since it requires that the recipient device decode the file and won't allow sending everything on my phone to my PC.
Android 4.2 is supposed to integrate Miracast into the OS natively, so I figured I can use this to mirror my phone's display on my PC. However, I can't find any PC software that acts as a Miracast receiver (much like Airserver works for iPhones/iPads). Does anyone know of any Windows software that will act as a Miracast receiver and allow me to mirror my phone's screen on my PC?
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I too have been looking for exactly this but have yet to find anything. Hopefully someone will come up with a solution soon.
this needs to be possible?? surely this can be done
Gutted.
I was really hoping I could do that for my nexus 4, but I'm fairly sure I won't be able to by any kind of dongle for my old TV
Bump.
I just ordert my nexus 4 and was searching for a windows 7 miracast server but found non.
Acording to Wikipedia its possible
Microsoft does not natively support Miracast in the new released Windows 8 and RT, but Windows software developers can implement Miracast easily, as Wi-Fi Direct is present as of Windows 7[19].
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But I didnt even found a Dev-Thread...
@SiMBol10: The PTV3000 by Netgear might be the dongle you have been looking for
Does somebody know a Software Solution? Maybe a Wi-Fi Direct tool which can mit modulated?!
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greetz
This is something I've been searching for as well now that I have my Nexus 4.
Has anyone figured anything out for this? I really really want to be able to do this, but cannot figure this out at all
It doesn't seem so yet.
the documentation for miracast is terrible for it to be open there isn't a lot of documentation about how to use and implement i was able to find out about android transporter http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=tZFeed5a7Jq6cfqPbAFfBw&bvm=bv.42661473,d.dmQ
and on the miracast wiki page there is a link to software called mirrorop nothing much outside of this though that I could find http://www.mirrorop.com/
i really want to be able to have miracast software/api/sdk implemented into xbmc that will allow me to have airplay and miracast all in one solution
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the documentation for miracast is terrible for it to be open there isn't a lot of documentation about how to use and implement i was able to find out about android transporter http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=tZFeed5a7Jq6cfqPbAFfBw&bvm=bv.42661473,d.dmQ
and on the miracast wiki page there is a link to software called mirrorop nothing much outside of this though that I could find http://www.mirrorop.com/
i really want to be able to have miracast software/api/sdk implemented into xbmc that will allow me to have airplay and miracast all in one solution
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I'm also looking for library/sdk Miracast information but didn't fount anything interesting so far.
I already have multiple devices that can implement this solution : Popcorn Hour, Freebox (French ISP Media player), Raspberry Pi...
There really is no need to buy another device for this, one of these devices must have the ability to implement this very interesting technology.
If anybody have further information about this, I really am interested.
From what I've gathered, Miracast is merely a certification program (sauce), and not an open standard. The Miracast website itself refers to the possibility of buying the specs, for moneys.
Thus, to develop Miracast thingies legally, you'd have to buy the specs (which, amazingly, costs mere a three-figure sum), submit it to the Wi-Fi Alliance for certification, probably wait a long time, and then you're allowed to publish it. Closed source, most likely.
I'm afraid that you are right. What a pity.
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From what I've gathered, Miracast is merely a certification program, and not an open standard. The Miracast website itself[ refers to the possibility of buying the specs, for moneys.
Thus, to develop Miracast thingies legally, you'd have to buy the specs (which, amazingly, costs mere a three-figure sum), submit it to the Wi-Fi Alliance for certification, probably wait a long time, and then you're allowed to publish it. Closed source, most likely.
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That's close, but it's not entirely true. Miracast is pretty much a certification program, but it certifies devices for the "Wi-Fi Display" specification, which does cost money to access for non Wi-Fi Alliance members to access. $199.00 to be exact. How unfortunate I don't think that there is any technical reason why Miracast mirroring software cannot exist for Windows, especially Windows 8, which includes a new Win32 API for Wi-Fi Direct.
Note: I tried to publish source links, but I don't have enough posts All of the information that I have posted is available on the Wi-Fi Alliance's website.
UPDATE: There are copies of the spec floating around on the internet if you look hard. After a quick look over the 150-ish pages of the spec, I'm still not seeing any reason why this could not be implemented in Windows. It's complex for an amateur dev like myself, but I might take a crack at it.
just of today i saw some news of a piece of hardware called DWD-300 from LG, it's not yet available, but it's a dongle you can connect with hdmi to make older hdmi tvs miracast compatible, it's a wifi direct receiver. maybe you can connect it to the pc as well as far as it has got hdmi video input.
seems they are already selling it in south korea for 110 USD.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/LG-Wireless-...828?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7fe6caec
maybe the only possible solution as of right now as far as you are running android 4.2.x
mirrorop(DOT)com/receivers
Found this today, not sure how well it would work, but it's worth a shot. Sorry for the link formatting, don't have 10 posts yet.
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mirrorop(DOT)com/receivers
Found this today, not sure how well it would work, but it's worth a shot. Sorry for the link formatting, don't have 10 posts yet.
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- You need to ROOT your device before using this sender.
- This sender CANNOT support audio projection.
Let's stay on topic
I know LG and other companies have hardware dongles to add mirroring to older TV's, but that's not the question/topic of this thread. The idea is to mirror an Android phone on a PC screen. Unless the dongle can be connected to the PC, no dice.
Let me explain the purpose for this setup. I have an Android phone, a W7Prox64 Media Center that records TV, plays Blu-ray, streams movies/music, plays games, and serves the same functioning as an Apple TV's mirroring feature (I can mirror an iPhone or iPad to my Media Center with a program called AirServer; you just turn on mirroring an a window automatically appears and maximizes with the iDevice's screen. Unfortunately, I also have a family that fails to understand how the input button on a TV works. I don't want a dongle to plug in my TV, because then someone would have to change an input and next thing you know, there I am "fixing" the tv (pressing the input button). I'm looking for something like Air Server, but that also mirrors my Android device. Again, no boxes, no dongles, no extra hardware of any kind. I'm tired of buying tech and having to re-buy it when I change my phone. A PC is capable of doing anything a dongle can do, and I'm not out 80 bucks every year.
I swear, if they make an iPhone with a +5-inch screen, I'm defecting. It's 2013 and this is ridiculous.
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I know LG and other companies have hardware dongles to add mirroring to older TV's, but that's not the question/topic of this thread. The idea is to mirror an Android phone on a PC screen. Unless the dongle can be connected to the PC, no dice.
Let me explain the purpose for this setup. I have an Android phone, a W7Prox64 Media Center that records TV, plays Blu-ray, streams movies/music, plays games, and serves the same functioning as an Apple TV's mirroring feature (I can mirror an iPhone or iPad to my Media Center with a program called AirServer; you just turn on mirroring an a window automatically appears and maximizes with the iDevice's screen. Unfortunately, I also have a family that fails to understand how the input button on a TV works. I don't want a dongle to plug in my TV, because then someone would have to change an input and next thing you know, there I am "fixing" the tv (pressing the input button). I'm looking for something like Air Server, but that also mirrors my Android device. Again, no boxes, no dongles, no extra hardware of any kind. I'm tired of buying tech and having to re-buy it when I change my phone. A PC is capable of doing anything a dongle can do, and I'm not out 80 bucks every year.
I swear, if they make an iPhone with a +5-inch screen, I'm defecting. It's 2013 and this is ridiculous.
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I agree with you completely. When I do a search for this, I frequently only find the posts that I myself have made over the years. I can't stand Apple, but no one seems to be able to tell me what separates an iPhone from everything else, and why it can't be done on anything else. Even it's a "Apple will sue you" issue, you'd think that someone in the android community would tell em to get bent, and make it happen anyway. Several apps claim to do this, but none work as flawlessly as Airplay with Airserver or Reflections. I'm on the Galaxy S4 now, and the wait for someone like this for Android is getting a bit ridiculous.
jezra78 said:
I know LG and other companies have hardware dongles to add mirroring to older TV's, but that's not the question/topic of this thread. The idea is to mirror an Android phone on a PC screen. Unless the dongle can be connected to the PC, no dice.
Let me explain the purpose for this setup. I have an Android phone, a W7Prox64 Media Center that records TV, plays Blu-ray, streams movies/music, plays games, and serves the same functioning as an Apple TV's mirroring feature (I can mirror an iPhone or iPad to my Media Center with a program called AirServer; you just turn on mirroring an a window automatically appears and maximizes with the iDevice's screen. Unfortunately, I also have a family that fails to understand how the input button on a TV works. I don't want a dongle to plug in my TV, because then someone would have to change an input and next thing you know, there I am "fixing" the tv (pressing the input button). I'm looking for something like Air Server, but that also mirrors my Android device. Again, no boxes, no dongles, no extra hardware of any kind. I'm tired of buying tech and having to re-buy it when I change my phone. A PC is capable of doing anything a dongle can do, and I'm not out 80 bucks every year.
I swear, if they make an iPhone with a +5-inch screen, I'm defecting. It's 2013 and this is ridiculous.
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Oh yes, it's ON.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/3/4391124/windows-8-1-miracast-display-support-hotspot-tethering
Microsoft website offers this software for download at 133MB !!
On the tin says:
The file above contains the Intel® Wireless Display Software for Microsoft Windows 7* (32 bit and 64 bit versions)
I'm downloading and testing this now. Will report back.
EDIT: looks like this is wireless display server software rather than client software.
I am hoping that as a newbie, someone might give some advice into a Wall Mounted Photo Frame that I have been thinking about.
My purpose is to display mostly High Resolution Animated Gif Art and Cinemagraphs. No Photo Frames can do this.
My idea is to place a 23” or 24” ultra thin monitor into a picture frame and mount it on a wall. The monitor will be powered by an Android Mini PC such as the Android mini PC RK3066 or something similar.
I was going to plug the unit into the HDMI port on the monitor.
I currently use the Quick Pic App on my Asus Tablet to view animate Gifs as a slide show. If someone knows another app please let me know.
In order to make the frame on the wall more esthetic looking, I was going to use a monitor with an external power supply so only one small wire comes down the wall. The power supply will be a brick on the floor. To power the Android Mini PC, I was going to use a power splitter and a stepdown 12v – 5v 3a converter.
To store my images on the unit, I want to use a 32 gig SD card and move them in via wifi. I also want to utilize a Bluetooth key board or wifi in case I want to bring image in from the net.
Does anyone have any experience in this area? Also is it possible to boot right into the app so when I turn it on it will begin to display right away without a pointing device to get it going?
Or even better is there another way to approach this project?
Looking forward to hearing from all.
Cary On said:
I am hoping that as a newbie, someone might give some advice into a Wall Mounted Photo Frame that I have been thinking about.
My purpose is to display mostly High Resolution Animated Gif Art and Cinemagraphs. No Photo Frames can do this.
My idea is to place a 23” or 24” ultra thin monitor into a picture frame and mount it on a wall. The monitor will be powered by an Android Mini PC such as the Android mini PC RK3066 or something similar.
I was going to plug the unit into the HDMI port on the monitor.
I currently use the Quick Pic App on my Asus Tablet to view animate Gifs as a slide show. If someone knows another app please let me know.
In order to make the frame on the wall more esthetic looking, I was going to use a monitor with an external power supply so only one small wire comes down the wall. The power supply will be a brick on the floor. To power the Android Mini PC, I was going to use a power splitter and a stepdown 12v – 5v 3a converter.
To store my images on the unit, I want to use a 32 gig SD card and move them in via wifi. I also want to utilize a Bluetooth key board or wifi in case I want to bring image in from the net.
Does anyone have any experience in this area? Also is it possible to boot right into the app so when I turn it on it will begin to display right away without a pointing device to get it going?
Or even better is there another way to approach this project?
Looking forward to hearing from all.
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The is a free Android app called "Startup Manager" which i use to block certain apps starting up on boot but am sure it has options to force start apps on boot.
ive read the people use it to boot straight into XBMC so might work for your Asus app
Cary On said:
I am hoping that as a newbie, someone might give some advice into a Wall Mounted Photo Frame that I have been thinking about.
My purpose is to display mostly High Resolution Animated Gif Art and Cinemagraphs. No Photo Frames can do this.
My idea is to place a 23” or 24” ultra thin monitor into a picture frame and mount it on a wall. The monitor will be powered by an Android Mini PC such as the Android mini PC RK3066 or something similar.
I was going to plug the unit into the HDMI port on the monitor.
I currently use the Quick Pic App on my Asus Tablet to view animate Gifs as a slide show. If someone knows another app please let me know.
In order to make the frame on the wall more esthetic looking, I was going to use a monitor with an external power supply so only one small wire comes down the wall. The power supply will be a brick on the floor. To power the Android Mini PC, I was going to use a power splitter and a stepdown 12v – 5v 3a converter.
To store my images on the unit, I want to use a 32 gig SD card and move them in via wifi. I also want to utilize a Bluetooth key board or wifi in case I want to bring image in from the net.
Does anyone have any experience in this area? Also is it possible to boot right into the app so when I turn it on it will begin to display right away without a pointing device to get it going?
Or even better is there another way to approach this project?
Looking forward to hearing from all.
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Hi,
In my opinion and from a longer term prespective, the features you are looking for can be achieved much better with an open source digital signage such as xibo.org.uk. In addition to playing animated gif's and images you can play videos, webpages, scrolling text, RSS and scheduling content and much more compared to a simple slideshow app.
Xibo is a client server app so technically, you will need to have two separate machines, one for XIBO CMS (server) and XIBO Android player app each. Xibo for Android app from springsignage.com is only $15.
However, I (and not many have done so) being an experienced xibo user was able to successfully install and test both xibo CMS (server) and XIBO android app on same TV stick/box and then control the CMS over network (wi-fi/internet/LAN) etc to manage and schedule content for the player app.
You can get started really quickly with free and fast help from xibo community forum members.
However,If you want a set up like the one I did with xibo CMS and player app on same tv stick with auto launch of server (CMS) and app on device startup and many other technical hurdles/setup details then we can discuss this further for a bounty.
Pls send me a private message (PM) if you want my paid service so that we can discuss this further and I am confident, I can setup you up for a long term solution.
Thanks and best of luck with xibo.
Regards
btech.
I just thought I should share this, since the VR Headset has extremely limited functionality through the phone.
There is a dongle available from a company in South Korea that enables PC use (for movies and Youtube) specifically for the 360 VR. It basically converts HDMI output from your graphics card to USB-C and also has a micro-USB secondary connection for controls.
The name of the tool is Vagle VRD-1000 VR Data Transformer. I was able to get one from the US Amazon this week and waiting for it to arrive and test.
The price was not prohibitive compared to HDMI to USB-C capture boxes that run for a few hundred bucks and it seems tailor made for the LG 360 VR.
Cheers
I'm curious to know how this works out for you. Considering you can grab an LG360 VR google set for under $100, would be a fun addition to play with.
And it works
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I'm curious to know how this works out for you. Considering you can grab an LG360 VR google set for under $100, would be a fun addition to play with.
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I've received the adapter this week. It works as advertised for playing individual VR video files and Youtube VR streams. I had to download the VR Player from the manufacturer's website and it appears like a modified version of CodePlex VR Player. It includes a device preset for the LG headset. It also installed the K-lite codec pack and VLC automatically.
Head tracking works, video was a bit jittery as I could only test it on my laptop under W10 with an Intel IGP. The manual specifies Intel Graphics are not recommended. My desktop is sitting waiting for memory modules and I will test again once fixed.
One thing to note - as I connected the glasses through the adapter Windows set them up as a second monitor at their native resolution however I couldn't see anything. The glasses only fired up as I've opened the VR Player. However, after closing the player, the glasses still showed the desktop, but it was rotated by 90 degrees. I will try to rotate the desktop on my PC and see if I can have the picture laid out properly. If it works, it might allow me to play my flight sim on the headset.
Long story short, if you want to watch VR videos on the computer, the dongle will work. I've got the LG 360 VR for $60 off ebay and ended up spending more for the dongle ($90). All together it came down to less than a brand new LG 360 VR bought from LG.
whereto download this vr player?
hi Rothas, I tried to plug lv 360 directly into my NUC which has usb-c (thunderbolt 3, compatible with displayport over usb c), it recognizes it as a display 1440*960. but like you said below, nothing is shown on the goggle. want to try this vr player - you said you had to download from manufacturer's website? can't find the website even , can you help?
thanks
Wei
rothas said:
I've received the adapter this week. It works as advertised for playing individual VR video files and Youtube VR streams. I had to download the VR Player from the manufacturer's website and it appears like a modified version of CodePlex VR Player. It includes a device preset for the LG headset. It also installed the K-lite codec pack and VLC automatically.
Head tracking works, video was a bit jittery as I could only test it on my laptop under W10 with an Intel IGP. The manual specifies Intel Graphics are not recommended. My desktop is sitting waiting for memory modules and I will test again once fixed.
One thing to note - as I connected the glasses through the adapter Windows set them up as a second monitor at their native resolution however I couldn't see anything. The glasses only fired up as I've opened the VR Player. However, after closing the player, the glasses still showed the desktop, but it was rotated by 90 degrees. I will try to rotate the desktop on my PC and see if I can have the picture laid out properly. If it works, it might allow me to play my flight sim on the headset.
Long story short, if you want to watch VR videos on the computer, the dongle will work. I've got the LG 360 VR for $60 off ebay and ended up spending more for the dongle ($90). All together it came down to less than a brand new LG 360 VR bought from LG.
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0LTVBpzZVOLRkx4NEhrelR5RE0
alanma75 said:
hi Rothas, I tried to plug lv 360 directly into my NUC which has usb-c (thunderbolt 3, compatible with displayport over usb c), it recognizes it as a display 1440*960. but like you said below, nothing is shown on the goggle. want to try this vr player - you said you had to download from manufacturer's website? can't find the website even , can you help?
thanks
Wei
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VR Player
Good to see you found it, could you let us know if it works on the NUC without the dongle?
Also, make sure you select the LG device in the player, that is what brings the picture up on my headset. Thanks.
It worked !!!
wow, good news everyone, this really rocks: get LG 360 plug in to a displayport over usb c compatible computer (NUC 7th gen for example).
and fires up this vr player - so far the image are 90 degree turned - I am so excited so need to share the news first. will tweak more and let you guys know.
rothas said:
Good to see you found it, could you let us know if it works on the NUC without the dongle?
Also, make sure you select the LG device in the player, that is what brings the picture up on my headset. Thanks.
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everything works inside vr player once the tracker is set to LG ER1 - I guess it tells VR player to align the orientation from the goggle.
can't seems to get it to work directly - it shows the screen but are 90 degree turned, one clock wise and the other eye counter clockwise, so you can't even change alignment in display setting to fix both eyes
overall I am very happy, just saved $100 on this Vagle if your computer is able to output displayport over USB C directly - it works exactly as the adapter does.
thanks Rothas for this great finding, I wouldn't even think it is possible if I did not read your post.
alanma75 said:
wow, good news everyone, this really rocks: get LG 360 plug in to a displayport over usb c compatible computer (NUC 7th gen for example).
and fires up this vr player - so far the image are 90 degree turned - I am so excited so need to share the news first. will tweak more and let you guys know.
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Great
Oh, I forgot to mention to load up the .json preset included with the player, it does something to the viewing plane.
I still haven't tested rotating the display in W10 due to lack of time, I'll post something once I'm done.
I wish I could've saved the $100 but my desktop doesn't have native USB-C :laugh:
Installed the player and it sort of works. I get the 90" rotated display in the player. Unfortunately my windows doesn't see the glasses driver.Any ideas?
I was able to get my hands on a R100 VR headset for a real bargain.
To get it to work in my use case (As FPV glasses for my racing drone) I need help from someone owning the VRD-1000 "transformer":
Could someone owning said converter please open it up and take pictures of both sides of the PCB? I want to gather some information on the SLIMPORT chipset they used so I can hack together my own adapter.
I am not able to purchase the VRD-1000 it here in europe and importing it would cost me over 200 USD which is quite a bummer
Help would be greatly appreciated! Of course Ill share my findings if this leads to something!
VRD-1000
game-genie said:
I was able to get my hands on a R100 VR headset for a real bargain.
To get it to work in my use case (As FPV glasses for my racing drone) I need help from someone owning the VRD-1000 "transformer":
Could someone owning said converter please open it up and take pictures of both sides of the PCB? I want to gather some information on the SLIMPORT chipset they used so I can hack together my own adapter.
I am not able to purchase the VRD-1000 it here in europe and importing it would cost me over 200 USD which is quite a bummer
Help would be greatly appreciated! Of course Ill share my findings if this leads to something!
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Will PM you tonight
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You are my hero!
I'll update ASAP with my findings
There was a question about components used in that Data Transformer dongle. It's not a direct answer, but the following press note lists the components used in LG G5 phone and in glasses themselves (google for the following title):
"Analogix and LG Take Mobile VR to the Next Level with LG 360 VR"
The components are:
LG G5: SlimPort ANX7816 transmitter and ANX7418 USB-C switch and controller;
LG 360 VR: SlimPort ANX7737 converter and ANX7402 USB-C controller.
I have a question to alanma75. What happens when you plug LG glasses to your NUC, without starting that VR prlayer? What do you need to do to force the glasses to show anything?
I have access to one Win7 and one Win10 laptops with USB-C interface. When I connect glasses to them, laptops recognize an external display of 1440x960 resolution, I can extend the desktop to that space, I can drag the windows there, but the glasses remain dark. For a moment I thought that simply there is no back-light triggered, but I don't see any activity on those LCD pa panels (yes, I unscrewed the lenses to look directly at LCDs). What needs to be done to kick-start the goggles?
Just picked up one of these headsets for $20, B&H photo has them refurb for that right now. Have had my eyes on these to try and hack and mod a bit.
But reading over the info, it's gonna be a tough one, maybe not really worth it.
The Vagle VRD-1000 is pretty interesting, this PDF has some interesting details about what it does internally:
http://tvlogic.tv/VR/vagle(VRD-1000) Product Profile_v1.0(ENG).pdf
Interesting parts: I see HDMI to Display Port and DDC. DDC appears to be "Display Data Channel" which is an i2c protocol. See here for some info on that and how that fits in to USB - C https://www.mouser.com/applications/usb-type-c-adds-hdmi/
Perhaps DDC is used to instruct the goggles how to display - for instance it's been mentioned of people getting images, but 90 degrees rotation? Perhaps DDC is used to instruct the goggle how to orient the image, etc.
Then also I see mentioned "Coordination info" this is probably motion tracking info I'm guessing. Personally I'm not as interested in this aspect, I'm more interested in just being able to control the displays, maybe get general HDMI input working.
Here is an interesting github project that appears to be using or attempting to use the VRD-1000 along with this headset https://github.com/TrueOpenVR
How about an adapter Type C to USB 3.0, somebody tried, it works?
The code for get orientation data from USB сan be found after decompiled "Vr Player.Trackers.LgeR1360Tracker.dll" (C#, decompiled without problems with using ILSpy). File "Vr Player.Trackers.LgeR1360Tracker.dll is located in the player folder [1][2]
There can do support for SteamVR and other vr programs.
snap3D, it is probably necessary to send the packet over USB to enable it. LG G5 (or Vagle VRD-1000) most likely sends a special package to turn on the displays. Probably it's done so people do not try to connect to the PC. Need to capture the usb packet (from Vagle).
I also have G5 phone (and obviously VR360 glasses light up when LG app is running and glasses proximity sensor is covered; glasses immediately turn off when proximity sensor is uncovered), but unfortunately no access to USB-C analyzers. It would be interesting to see if the glasses connected to PC (via Vagle adapter or directly through USB-C interface) can continue to show the image after initial packet trigger. To test that theory I ordered a "MeeGoPad T09" micro computer (for $130 from "geekbuying" Asian site), which is less than $10 more expensive than the Vagle adapter (and as a bonus I'll have a tiny PC running Win10 OS; you can go even smaller with PC-stick "MeeGoPad T08"; both MeeGoPads have USB-C interface). I'll try to install that proprietary VR player s/w (link provided earlier in this thread) on MeeGoPad and we will see what happens.
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snap3D, it is probably necessary to send the packet over USB to enable it. LG G5 (or Vagle VRD-1000) most likely sends a special package to turn on the displays. Probably it's done so people do not try to connect to the PC. Need to capture the usb packet (from Vagle).
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I think that "USB Packet" might actually be an i2c packet over a wire that's a part of the USB C spec. The DDC "Display Data Channel" signal I mentioned before. So might be easier to reverse engineer than a USB packet would.
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So I took my goggles apart just to look around inside. Noticed these test pads on the main PCB, labelled GND, 5V, D-, D+ and B. So that looks like USB to me, but not sure what B is. These might just be some kind of ISP firmware update pads or something though. I might try to solder a USB A cable to them, plug it in to my computer and see what happens. Also here's a picture of the back side of the board just for info. Let me know if anyone wants a picture of something specific.
0TheRain0, yes, I wonder what will happen.
Does my $75 solution work better LG G4 with the Oneplus loop VR?