Hi all,
i've been trying to search for a solution but was so far unable to find one.
I'm running into the following (albeit minor) problem.
When I copy my music to the HD2 and let the Manila audio manager sort everything out, then the order of the individual tracks in the albums are all off, i can't find any kind of order in there, they are not ordered alphabetically or anything, and worst of all they are definitely not ordered according the album's play order as i would prefer them to be.
All the music I put on the card consist of complete albums i also use in iTunes, where they are all sorted as they should be, so they are also tagged as they should be.
Now, i know that both iTunes as well as audio manager use gracenote to get the info and album-art for the albums, but why does iTunes do the trick correctly and audio manager does not?
What do i need to change in the files to get it right?
I also find that, although album art is in the folder after "syncing" with gracenote, some albums just won't show the album-art?
Where do I go wrong? I simply don't like the thought of having to create playlists for all 12 or so gig's of music i have put on the HD2 to get them to play in the "correct" order as i would like to have it.
Thanks in advance . . . . . . . . . . .
Gert-Jan (Crazy-G) Klijn.
I use Mediamonkey to embed the album art in the mp3 tags. Works flawlessly and the Audio manager recognizes everything without problems.
Also have the lacking sort order issue which really sucks since I predominantly play audiobooks and going out of sequence there is a killer. Right now I'm using Mortplayer as it has the cool feature of having two main folders, one for Music and one for Audiobooks. But it would be much nicer in the sense audiomanager, since it looks better.
This has been an HTC bug for years, but only affects WMA files normally. MP3s should be okay.
I recently decided to start using my music player on my HD2 due to the newest Cookies HT 1.8 update, and Windows Media and Sense Music player seems to have lots of bugs within the music player and/or missing options and other stuff i cant seem to figure out. I'm just puzzled and thought maybe others are having the same problem
1. I had a ton of music all mislabeled tags and no artwork, so first i tried to use the update on Sense tab to replace the artwork with the generic melody icon. ***That feature NEVER works for me, It doesn't seem to work even on very well labeled music tags. even when i enable WiFi, it doesn't give me artwork. (this is the first issue)
2. Why can I play music from both Windows Media, and Sense Music. its kinda an issue. Sometime I like to go my SD and play a MP3 file, But I'd rather have Sense Music player do all the work, it seems to run much smoother than Windows Media player. How do you relink your mp3's to play to Sense music player when clicking on a Mp3 files from the SD Card??
3. I updated my library using Windows Media, since Sense Music tab seemed to be lacking that feature to update the library altogether. Adding Music, Sense is kinda glitchy and I sometimes just have to soft reset to find a new mp3 just added. Using Windows Media to update your library is a nightmare!! Windows Media took 50++ of my ringtones and placed them into my Music library. then to make it even worst, it added every single sound effect from my phone and all 30 so games with sound effects installed on my SD card. (No one wants to be jamming out, then the music player flips to the next song that just happens to be a Japanese airplane pilot from "Flight Commander" Then another good song. oh back to the Japanese pilot again.) Now i dont know how to untangle this mess. I hate Windows Media. Why wont it just allow me to pick what folder I want to update rather than scan unnecessary files throughout my whole device that i may not want in my library? i get even more angry when of course I can only delete one file at a time from my music library after it just added an unnecessary 200 sound effects; which is now mixed all through my music library list.
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I am hoping someone here is an expert with the music library and tell me what file to delete to reset the library memory or maybe a way to avoid the media player from adding useless sound effects to my library. perhaps someone that can modify the music player to add features or a program to help modify the music experience.
Thank you
1. I've got this problem too, and I guess it's the lack of sense supporting the ID3v1 or ID3v2 meta data tags. You could use this application to check and edit the data, but -as I said- that's only a guess.
2. No, that's just not possible
3. Open your favorite registry editor, and browse to
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ MediaPlayer \ Preferences \ FoldersExcludedFromLibrary
set the value to the folders you would like to exclude from indexing, like:
Code:
FoldersExcludedFromLibrary="\Storage Card\My Documents\My Ringtones;\Storage Card\Program Files\Flight Commander;"
Good luck!
I can't thank you enough for the info to exclude folders in my music file. YES!!! I'll give it a try... i'll probably have to hand delete unwanted stuff? or will it disengage once i type in the excluded?
can i get sense music to update, or do i have to use the dual setup from media player to search and update tags? i used media monkey to update my tags, but sense shows outdated info. its kinda strange it's sticking on the old file tags as well
Does this effect both music players????
3. It's not working with this registry value! Does it have to be to an specify folder or can i make it broad?
(I tried this to eliminate a whole mess of sound making programs and games)
FoldersExcludedFromLibrary="\Storage Card\Program Files" meaning everything within program files are excluded.
***so far it doesn't recognize this value at all. it's frustrating if I have to add each independent file within a game, ringtone, garmin, etc... that's a lot of research and coding
aoakes said:
I can't thank you enough for the info to exclude folders in my music file. YES!!! I'll give it a try... i'll probably have to hand delete unwanted stuff? or will it disengage once i type in the excluded?
can i get sense music to update, or do i have to use the dual setup from media player to search and update tags? i used media monkey to update my tags, but sense shows outdated info. its kinda strange it's sticking on the old file tags as well
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Go to \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\ and delete the file AudioManager_Eng.vol that should delete the sense music library, which will be rebuild after a restart of your device. Note that this folder and file may be hidden.
aoakes said:
Does this effect both music players????
3. It's not working with this registry value! Does it have to be to an specify folder or can i make it broad?
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No, it does only effect the windows media player. Have you done a softreset after applying the registry changes? (Then update lib in media player)
Yes, I've been dozens of soft resets after editing my registry. its kinda an automatic thing since i know it must boot the modded material before it can fix/ correct the issue.
In this case, i don't see why i'm adding entries into the registry to exclude folders; if it has absolutely no impact on Sense Music player. I need Sense MP to not play my game sounds effects if i am randomly playing all songs.
I have found a cab that resets my sense library every time i restart my phone, so it doesn't take up additional boot time, with the added benefit of rebuilding the library. I guess truly, i must create a playlist in order to avoid this issue... i wish for a program like the iphone music player but incorporated like Sense MP.
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In this case, i don't see why i'm adding entries into the registry to exclude folders; if it has absolutely no impact on Sense Music player.
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As said before the registrykey only affects the windows media player library settings.
I found these keys:
Code:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config
device_scan_path, device_scan_path_0, ring_tone_path
Edit as follows:
Set device_scan_path_path and device_scan_path_path_0 to \Storage Card\Music
Haven't tested it, but it should work. The ringtonepath can be used as a single exclusion path
I was curious if you updated your rom? I, too, started paying more attention to my music player after updating co0kies to 1.8. I have read on dozens of threads about the issues on the sense music player and have experienced most of them at one point or another to the point of not wanting to even use it. Anyway, after updating to the new rom the player and audio eng. miraculously became dramatically more stable. It didn't solve everything but certainly cleaned it up alot. Just wondering....
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I was curious if you updated your rom?
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i use cht 1.8, but I'm sure that doesn't effect the problems you're facing
yeah, I've updated my Rom a while ago. just updated stock T mobile USA Rom, but i don't think any of this should be an impact because its still sense 2.5 (ver. 2012) within both stock and update.
I think I'll just remove some of the games causing the conflict since i don't even play them. i've cleaned up the music library as good as i could. when i find the cab file, I'll post it on here so others can refresh their library.
I am looking for some clarification on how Android generates the Music DB and in particular how it displays track and album info and artwork. Right now I have some music in a "Music" folder on the root of my sdcard. There are several tracks directly in that folder, and some others organized into subfolders by artist or album. I'm having several problems getting the info to display properly.
My first issue is album artwork. Does Android display artwork that is embedded in the file? Some of them are showing up correctly and some are showing album covers from other tracks. Some of the things I've read suggested that everything be organized in folders by Album and to have an AlbumArt.jpg in each folder. While this is doable, I haven't gotten around to reorganizing my library and would rather the phone just read artwork from the file. I have checked the id3 tags of some of the problem tracks, both with an app on the phone, and from my pc, and everything (including artwork) looks fine. Both the stock music player and several 3rd party players are displaying the information incorrectly and identical so it seems to me like Android is caching the data incorrectly. I've tried to delete the albumthumbs folder on the sdcard as well as Settings->Manage Applications->Media Storage->Clear Data. It just gets regenerated incorrectly.
I think this is related to my next problem. It seems like the tracks that do not reside in their own album folders and sit directly in the Music folder are having the most problems. In particular the songs where there is no Album field in the id3 tags. The phone seems to think these all belong to the album "Music" - must be resorting to looking at the containing directory if no album is found in the tags. What's odd is that even though it thinks several tracks belong to this Music album, its now showing the same artwork for each of them.
What is the ideal way to organize music for playback on Android? Would sorting everything info folders by Album solve my problems? Do I need to make sure I don't have any blank Album tags?
On a side note, is anyone familiar with how iTunes stores its Album art? I'm looking for an easy way to maintain consistency between my iTunes library and what is on my phone. I'm thinking of developing a small application that can scan both libraries and detect differences to keep them synchronized. All of my music is on my old Macbook which I hardly use, but I listen to it pretty much exclusively on my Android phone. The problem is we also have an iPad that I'd like to keep the music on so I can't ditch iTunes entirely.
Thanks for any advice.
Hi Guys,
I have had my new Galaxy SIII for just under 2 months now and i love it, its great.
I use all the features and its so quick and very well responsive.
I have one small problem though I have many music files saved on an external hard drive so i have chosen quite a few and saved them on my laptop.
I also have latest version of samsung kies which is what i have been using to transfer my music files on to my SIII and onto the sd class10 32gig sd micro memory card.
Many of the music files have no jpeg file of artist for when i play back on my SIII so I have G**gled for actual music jpeg file saved in folder with same name as music track and saved on laptop transfer through kies onto SIII while trasferring i check on Kies and proper music files jpeg is there but when i go to play once sycronised on S3 many track have same Music files Jpeg photo and not one that it should have ???
Has anyone else with this phone had same problem, if so please help with some useful and helpful advise ??
I await your replies
Many Thanks
charlie2
charlie2 said:
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Many of the music files have no jpeg file of artist for when i play back on my SIII so I have G**gled for actual music jpeg file saved in folder with same name as music track and saved on laptop transfer through kies onto SIII while trasferring i check on Kies and proper music files jpeg is there but when i go to play once sycronised on S3 many track have same Music files Jpeg photo and not one that it should have ???
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A couple questions:
Are you using the stock Music Player app?
Do these audio files have internal tags, perhaps? Some might have embedded ID3 tags (if MP3s, for example) with included album art that might override .jpg files. Or, the stock Music Player app might not look for separate album art files.
An option to consider is using an app such a Poweramp Music Player from the Play store, which has specific Album Art configuration options in its Settings.
- ooofest
Hi,
Thanks for quick reply
answers to your questions are
yes i am using stock music player app
not sure what you mean about internal tags , the mp3`s do not have included art i have had to find correct art and save it with music mp3 file.
is Poweramp free and can i still use samsung kies to transfer music ?
charlie2 said:
yes i am using stock music player app
not sure what you mean about internal tags , the mp3`s do not have included art i have had to find correct art and save it with music mp3 file.
is Poweramp free and can i still use samsung kies to transfer music ?
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The stock Music Player app can pick up art and other tag values that are embedded within the MP3 files, these tags are in an IP3 format at some version level. It finds my album art within the IP3 tag for each MP3 fine, but I don't see anything in the User Manual that says it will pick up .jpg files when no embedded album art is found.
Poweramp trial is free but times out after 15 days and requires a $4.99 purchase - you could try the n7player Music app trial and consider its lesser $2.99 purchase after testing it out.
- ooofest
I have deleted all music files and have connected again to Kies and downloaded music files and have got upto 146 music files and so far so good no probs from before ?? But not sure i have found out what was or is causing this problem ?
I stumbled on a fix
I'm better with computers than phone but am getting there slowly
Id thought id post this as it seems to have fixed it for me. I'm using Linux and i used sound converter and easy-tag applications to fix this. I expect there's other programs that will do exactly the same thing.
I spent hours adding pictures to my mp3 collection and editing the tags then copying them to my phone and only a few worked. All music players i tested still refused to recognize all tags and pictures embedded. That was right up till i noticed in easy-tags that the ones that did work were on a 320 insanely high bit-rate.
As a last resort effort i converted them all with sound-converter to a bit-rate of 320 and re-sampled them at 4400 MHz. Then i reopened them in easy-tag to fix any text errors and finally copied them all to the phone with crossed fingers. Well blow me down. it worked, all mp3 music files, pictures and tags were now recognized by all music players on the galaxy s3 i9300.
Hope this helps someone.
Hi. i am using viperS rom (i don't really think that this is a rom issue!) and noticed the album covers appear a little shady in built-in music player compared to the images i tag to them. most of other players like google play music or n7 or apollo does the same thing. actually the only app that i found that shows them correctly is poweramp. after some searching in sd card and root, i noticed an app called "mediaprovider" takes all album covers, resises all of theme to 320x320 resolutions and saves them in "sdcard/android/data/com.android.providers.media/albumthumbs" without extension and all music players use those files as covers.so i renamed an album cover (a 600x600 one) to the name of one of those files and removed the extension and put it in that directory and it worked and music app showed it correctly. so here is my question: can mediaprovider.apk be hacked to resize the covers to a larger resolution like 600x600? thanks!