choose a new "secure" phone - General Topics

Hello everybody. This is my very first post and I've been on xda for something like 30 min. Therefore if the post is inappropriate delete or move it. Thanx.
Now why ask here? Well, I'm sort of developer and sys admin and I've learnt that best answers come from tech people, so here I am!
As first let start with a broad question.
I'm coming from a moto g first gen. My phone expected life is 2 years according to previous phones I've owned.
What am I searching? Well I'm focusing on a bit of security in software. For those who know linux I'm the kind of guy who uses centos on servers, ubuntu LTS or debian stable on vms or desktop, I'm not in search for the latest and greatest but proper patch level adherence in android.
I don't really bother about void warranty. Lets face it: in my country (italy) consumers devices have no SLA nor you can expect anything from repair shops, so in case of damage I still need to buy a second phone for temporary patch.
I'm asking you: what alternatives are here to nexus? I've red that sony seems good at following patch levels. Cyanogen (in case I'll buy and root a phone) seems to release stables now and then without strict montly patches. What about other roms?
In the end which are the alternatives to nexus (both stock or aftermarket) for a proper security patch coverage? I'm I "cursed" to buy a nexus or may I pick from supported devices of any of existent roms?
to narrow specs: I'm searching for something in the range € 200-250, between 4.7'' and 5.2'', 16-32 GB disk, 2+ GB ram, decent camera, wifi N (2.4 is ok, never used 5 ghz), basically don't care so much about other specs, just get good battery runtime.
Thank you,
M
PS: Potential buy is Nexus 5X (supported by google for next 2 years, and available around € 230 on some italian on line shops) but battery runtimes are not so good

Welcome to XDA!
Gee, I didn't realize it, but there are (at least) two of these well established topics (and stickied) going on now:
One is right above yours, for general discussion
The other is in the Q&A sister subforum, more tailored for asks
Since your thread is geared more for asking which to buy, I would go for the latter.
Good luck, and hope this helps.
To help promote the use of the above threads, I will be closing this one now.

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QSAlpha Quasar IV - The most powerful and secure android phone in Indiegogo!

Mod Edit:This one slipped through the cracks, but xda doesn't allow fundraising. Thread closed!
I only came across the Quasar IV today after reading engadget and I must say that it has piqued my interest. However after reading about it in indiegogo more carefully, isn't the security system, only beneficial within its closed ecosystem and if one were to use the normal commercially available services (gmail, gdrive, etc.) that they won't benefit from the security features of this the Quasar IV?
The security feature aside, the only other benefit of this phone for me is the 128GB. However since it's only to be released April '14 (and if Indiegogo is anything like Kickstarter, Oct '14 would probably be a more realistic date), most of the other major players in the market (Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, etc.) would probably announce and release their "large" storage phones.
Take another look to the news.
AnakChan said:
I only came across the Quasar IV today after reading engadget and I must say that it has piqued my interest. However after reading about it in indiegogo more carefully, isn't the security system, only beneficial within its closed ecosystem and if one were to use the normal commercially available services (gmail, gdrive, etc.) that they won't benefit from the security features of this the Quasar IV?
The security feature aside, the only other benefit of this phone for me is the 128GB. However since it's only to be released April '14 (and if Indiegogo is anything like Kickstarter, Oct '14 would probably be a more realistic date), most of the other major players in the market (Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, etc.) would probably announce and release their "large" storage phones.
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You're right, the special security brougth by QUATRIX will be only available when the information is sent from a QUATRIX-enabled devide to another, but mind that sending encrypted messages to anyone that doesn't have the key to decode them is completely nonsense. I urge you to take a look to the news I've posted on the top of the page, because they mean that It will be possible turning a normal phone into a QUATRIX one just by adding a micro SD. Isn't it great?
I have to add that the production of the phone has already begun so the release date becomes stronger.
Thanks for your comment.
What a powerful phone! I like it! But I think the most way for keep the secrets safe it's not to put it on our phones! LOL
As Anonymous said "There Is No Full Security, We Can Catch You !" :S
I have payed for the 64 GB because even without the encryption those are awesome specs and I want to get this
MaluNoPeleke said:
I have payed for the 64 GB because even without the encryption those are awesome specs and I want to get this
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How much did you pay it?
495$
MaluNoPeleke said:
495$
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It sounds like didn't succeed in reaching their goal in Indiegogo and everyone is getting a refund. However QSAlpha is still going to proceed with pre-orders directly from their website instead. I guess they got funding somehow though some joint venture.
However for those who did get in early in Indiegogo for the $495 pack will have to start again with QSAlpha's pre-order...at a the $595 price instead.
And here's more info on the crypto system it uses and the downsides too
Any other buyer? I found this mobile and I m not sure about this. Im between this and Xiaomi
By the way : Hi. This is my first message but Im following this fantastic forum from ages. I just wanted to know if any one is getting this mobile to know about future support
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Seems like a long wait for a device. I would go with currently available models with similar specs. Nexus 5 for example.
Actually I dont need a phone right now. I could wait for months but I really dont know if its worth
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I moved away from the iPhone 2 weeks ago and was looking at Android alternatives and came across the QSAlpha after an engadget or gizmodo article. I almost pledged in Indiegogo (before the project was pulled due to lack of funding) but to me the issue was that you have to be in their ecosystem to enjoy the security features and I don't have enough persuasion power to convince all my friends to move to this ecosystem. So it boils back down to a regular phone.
2.3GHz & 3GB RAM are available now. So the only thing this phone has going for it is the 128GB. But as many of you have noted the delivery time is sometime mid next year. By then I'd dare speculate the rest of the major Android phone makers would have 128GB offerings too.
Also I think one could forget about trying to root their Android flavour.
I am very interested on this phone. Wonder though if it'd ever be open sourced? Also, is the encryption to the GSM/HSPA hardware level or is it all over the traditional data channel?
whats a performance phone.
i can buy this
better then samsung phone
Just to catch up anyone who might have been coming to this thread years later, the "QSAlpha" folks were apparently the same people that ran the later "Turing" phone company scam. (Mobile devices with multiple "Snapdragon 830" CPUs? :laugh Effectively no retail devices ever shipped, in either case. Hope no one reading this ever wasted any money, time, or hope on these folks.

Broke my Htc One, looking for a temporary low-budget phone

Hello,
As the title states, I broke my 1-year-old HTC One, and I'm looking to buy a new temporary low-budget smartphone. (w/o contract)
Having previously broken a relatively high number of devices from numerous brands and types (yes, i'm that clumsy), and currently not willing to splash the cash, I'm just looking for a smartphone, that can simply just run the usual apps, and that would last me at least 5-6 months until a new set of phones are released into the market.
I have a rather decent experience with android devices, so I'd prefer them over Windows phones, but anything would work.
My budget is around 150$, and I'm really unwilling to surpass 200$
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you
-George Kayogre
Definitely the Moto G! You can pick one up for 150 bucks or so off contract I believe. Although if you have Verizon you can only use the G with their prepaid plans.
There are 3 threads already established that are devoted to discussions about devices, please read, and if necessary, repost your question in one of these threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
There are also several other discussion threads that you probably should review to help you. They are What phone do you wish you had? or
The Worst Android Device That You've Ever Had & Why or even this place that talks about The best phone you ever owned.

root-friendly devices; used and/or cheap sources ??

Speaking as an aspiring tinkerer with a practically non-existent budget, I would like to ask:
Are there any tricks/tips/pointers that anyone is willing to share for finding devices that are root-friendly AND maximally affordable ??
What I seek need not be new, can have an older OS like 4.x, and really all I care about is that it remains fully functional and not broken/beaten badly.
I have visited Swappa a bunch of times and see that most unlocked devices there are in the over $100 range.
For this old guy, even $50 is a stretch - and the device would have to be a very good one for even that much to be spent.
In a perfect world I'd love to get my hands on a GSM phone device with a 4" screen that is unlocked (or AT&T friendly) and rootable so that I can use it with my cheapie phone service and also via Wifi at home.
In the real world I will be very happy with even a carrier-locked CDMA device which can be rooted - but has a 4" screen.
There must be devices like these around, given how many are replaced daily by folks who NEED to have the newest of everything ?!?
I will very much appreciate any helpful info that anyone is willing to share.
Thanks.
vtsnaab said:
I hope this is an OK query for here...
Speaking as an aspiring tinkerer with a practically non-existent budget, I would like to ask:
Are there any tricks/tips/pointers that anyone is willing to share for finding devices that are root-friendly AND maximally affordable ??
I have visited Swappa a bunch of times and see that most unlocked devices are up in the over $100 range.
For this old guy, even $50 is a stretch - and the device would have to be a very good one for even that much to be spent.
In a perfect world I'd love to get my hands on a GSM phone device with a 4" screen that is unlocked (or AT&T friendly) and rootable so that I can use it with my cheapie phone service and also via Wifi at home.
I will very much appreciate any info that anyone is willing to share.
Thanks.
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you are not going to get anything "very good" for $50, or $100, for that matter.
maybe could get some off brand junk for that price.
if thats all you are willing to spend, and expect it to be good, smart phones probably arent for you.
Hmmm...
Fascinating reply:
bweN diorD said:
you are not going to get anything "very good" for $50, or $100, for that matter.
maybe could get some off brand junk for that price.
if thats all you are willing to spend, and expect it to be good, smart phones probably arent for you.
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I have multiple LG devices - none of which cost over $20 and they are quite satisfactory EXCEPT that they have screens too small for my comfort - and squinting at tiny screens is unpleasant.
The Alcatel device I just bought was even cheaper - and has a very nice 4" screen - but thus far there is no working method to root it to be found.
For someone on a very limited budget there is a simple key that I have seen to work very well:
Most folks are quite overcome with some NEED for the latest & greatest stuff; this results in the 'older' stuff (like v4.x devices) being put out at fire sale prices.
The Alcatel phone I just got was marked down from $70 to a mere $5 simply because it has the 'old' v4.x in it.
Referring to my OP - I did ask for pointers, yes - but I did not ask to be publicly criticized due to my age or financial (in-)abilities.
Thus far I am doing quite well with my tinkering efforts and it is a very pleasant little hobby for me; I am fine with things like older OSes and have no desire to have the fanciest, or newest stuff - I just want stuff that works fully.
This (IMO) means that any Android device I have needs to be rooted - and as such:
My 'ancient', $20 LG-L38C with v 2.3.6 can do some nifty tricks that its newer cousin with v 4.x cannot do a'tall.
Good thing I'm not allergic to cheap, old stuff, yes ??
Thanks.
PS:
By 'very good' I mean used is OK - but beaten to death is not OK; this was not meant to imply anything fancy or super-duper.
vtsnaab said:
Fascinating reply:
I have multiple LG devices - none of which cost over $20 and they are quite satisfactory EXCEPT that they have screens too small for my comfort - and squinting at tiny screens is unpleasant.
The Alcatel device I just bought was even cheaper - and has a very nice 4" screen - but thus far there is no working method to root it to be found.
For someone on a very limited budget there is a simple key that I have seen to work very well:
Most folks are quite overcome with some NEED for the latest & greatest stuff; this results in the 'older' stuff (like v4.x devices) being put out at fire sale prices.
The Alcatel phone I just got was marked down from $70 to a mere $5 simply because it has the 'old' v4.x in it.
Referring to my OP - I did ask for pointers, yes - but I did not ask to be publicly criticized due to my age or financial (in-)abilities.
Thus far I am doing quite well with my tinkering efforts and it is a very pleasant little hobby for me; I am fine with things like older OSes and have no desire to have the fanciest, or newest stuff - I just want stuff that works fully.
This (IMO) means that any Android device I have needs to be rooted - and as such:
My 'ancient', $20 LG-L38C with v 2.3.6 can do some nifty tricks that its newer cousin with v 4.x cannot do a'tall.
Good thing I'm not allergic to cheap, old stuff, yes ??
Thanks.
PS:
By 'very good' I mean used is OK - but beaten to death is not OK; this was not meant to imply anything fancy or super-duper.
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lol,
good luck with your search.
if you get your panties in a bunch over some constructive criticism, you can probably add xda to the list of things not for you.
btw, the phones you mentioned were junk new, and that hasn't changed now that there not.
perhaps your query should have been something to the effect of, looking for a cheap low end device that can be rooted. that would have been more consistent of what you are trying to find.
either way, if you continue to post that you want something very good, and post a price expectation of $50, you are unlikely to get any constructive responses.
Title & OP edited to reflect a more exacting query as suggested.
Bunched panties are for younger folks who have things to prove or that perhaps enjoy arguments;
Some of us older folks just want to have a happy life & to leave that stuff alone.

Budget phones (under EUR/USD100) worth buying in Europe praised by the XDA community?

Meaning, the phone is popular with developers, as it is easy to hack, custom ROMs are plenty, stable, and well supported by the XDA community.
Anything other than (last year's, or next year's) Moto E? I have nothing against the Moto E, but that's the one I know. I wonder what alternatives are out there. Last years version is, well, last year's, and has a 4.5" screen, this year's version, with a more preferable 5" screen is still longs months away.
Meanwhile, many 5", 1080x1920 phones with IPS display (and with 1/2 GB RAM, 8/16 GB storage, that part doesn't doesn't matter as much to me) hit the market at budget prices (read, less than 100 euros or US dollars) across the world.
My preference is:
The phones is sold by a wholly European subsidiary, with the usual 2-year warranty you usually get in Europe, with local service and support. This is the preferred option. 2-year warranty is the law here.
A 'World phone,' that is, a phone sold from China with whatever their warranties worth, as option B.
Our friends in the US are flocked to the BLU R1 HD/Amazon collaboration these days. So far so good. I wonder what current, or coming soon devices keep XDA folks from Europe, or the rest of the world intrigued?
My hunch is, you are interested in this as well, you just also don't know any better, any more than me!
Any update for December 2016??
Deep silence. I wonder if my question is entirely unreasonable, that's why you are silent, or, you are like me, you are also very interested in the answer of this question as well, you just don't have an answer, that's why you are silent.
It's possible that I've posted this in the wrong section of XDA, or I posted it on entirely the wrong forum, I shouldn't have posted this kind of question on XDA in the first place, but somewhere else?
I'm asking this, because when the $50 Blu phone with the Amazon partnership came out in the US, everyone was all over about it, which was in essence, a $100 phone without subsidies, for the rest of the world.
At least, please, a living creature say either "I would like (to know) this, too," or "no way, who wants a cheap crap phone?" I'm just feeling a little weird talking with myself here all alone, on this, otherwise, premiere Android forum.

[Completed] Recommend Dual-Sim, Stock(-ish) Android Phone, 200$

Gents,
Will be travelling lots for my job in the next few years. Would like to get a dual-sim phone. Current phone is a Nexus 5X, which I do love, and that I got precisely because of stock Android - just about every single one of the Asian skins is complete anathema to me.
Budget is around 200 U.S., though could be convinced to spend a bit more if there's a sizeable gain to be had. Priorities : processing power, stability.
I ask here because I'm pretty sure I'll have to delve into the custom ROM scene, which I'm totally not afraid to do (I've flashed a fair number of ROMs before), but I'm afraid I might be forgetting a phone that has high community support. I know the obvious choice is OnePlus, but the 3/3T is way out of my budget.
My best options, I think, are either Redmi Note 3 or Mi5. Potentially a OnePlus 2, but those are a bit higher-priced. Any others you can think of, that are powerful and well-supported?
Cheers!
SilverJS said:
Gents,
Will be travelling lots for my job in the next few years. Would like to get a dual-sim phone. Current phone is a Nexus 5X, which I do love, and that I got precisely because of stock Android - just about every single one of the Asian skins is complete anathema to me.
Budget is around 200 U.S., though could be convinced to spend a bit more if there's a sizeable gain to be had. Priorities : processing power, stability.
I ask here because I'm pretty sure I'll have to delve into the custom ROM scene, which I'm totally not afraid to do (I've flashed a fair number of ROMs before), but I'm afraid I might be forgetting a phone that has high community support. I know the obvious choice is OnePlus, but the 3/3T is way out of my budget.
My best options, I think, are either Redmi Note 3 or Mi5. Potentially a OnePlus 2, but those are a bit higher-priced. Any others you can think of, that are powerful and well-supported?
Cheers!
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Hello,
Please post your query here Device suggestion thread with all relevant details, the experts there maybe able to assist you.
Regards
Vatsal,
Forum Moderator.
Will do, thanks.

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