Downgrade? - Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there,
My phone has android 6.0.1 and i want it downgraded to android lollipop because ive got problems with android 6.0.1.
Im a total noob with all this stuff, so can someone please advise step by step how i can do this? I have the MOTO G 3rd Gen, SKU is "XT1541", Ram is 1GB and ROM 8GB. My current system version is 24.61.55.osprey_reteu.reteu.en.EU reteu. Build number is MPI24. 107-55. This phone will accept any phone network. Can someone please help? thanks in advance!

There are multiple threads discussing downgrading, it can be done if your device has the bootloader unlocked (which wipes data and voids the warranty)... There are some inherent dangers in doing so, some immediate and some long-term dealing with future updates which have the potential to brick the device.
What are the issues you are having, many times it is better to solve those then to downgrade.

acejavelin said:
There are multiple threads discussing downgrading, it can be done if your device has the bootloader unlocked (which wipes data and voids the warranty)... There are some inherent dangers in doing so, some immediate and some long-term dealing with future updates which have the potential to brick the device.
What are the issues you are having, many times it is better to solve those then to downgrade.
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Some apps wont run well on android 6.0.1 such as facebook etc (personal and buisness use) and my phone generally ran better with the previous android version. The phone does not have a warranty on it anyway so that does not matter. Trust me, it really cudnt be much worse than it is atm, ive factory reset it and its just not up to standard as it was with android 5. I did have android 6.0 which i didnt like and then i got 6.0.1, which was putting ice on the cake, (in a bad way!). I am 1000% sure i want to downgrade my device. Can you help?

Ryanm353 said:
Some apps wont run well on android 6.0.1 such as facebook etc (personal and buisness use) and my phone generally ran better with the previous android version. The phone does not have a warranty on it anyway so that does not matter. Trust me, it really cudnt be much worse than it is atm, ive factory reset it and its just not up to standard as it was with android 5. I did have android 6.0 which i didnt like and then i got 6.0.1, which was putting ice on the cake, (in a bad way!). I am 1000% sure i want to downgrade my device. Can you help?
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Not much to it... Unlock the bootloader, factory reset, then use the lollipop factory image from the factory images thread, gpt.bin will fail, just continue to flash everything all the way through. Follow the instructions in how to flash factory images, it's all done in fastboot.
Sent from my Motorola XT1575 using XDA Labs

acejavelin said:
Not much to it... Unlock the bootloader, factory reset, then use the lollipop factory image from the factory images thread, gpt.bin will fail, just continue to flash everything all the way through. Follow the instructions in how to flash factory images, it's all done in fastboot.
Sent from my Motorola XT1575 using XDA Labs
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Thanks. But can you explain all that in more detail step by step? I need clear instructions on how to do all that as ive literally no idea about anything.

Ryanm353 said:
Thanks. But can you explain all that in more detail step by step? I need clear instructions on how to do all that as ive literally no idea about anything.
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No offense, but this is not something to be taken lightly... there are many steps.
First, backup all your data... it will be lost.
Start by reading the first few posts in this thread... This will give the basics of what is needed to be done, what tools you need, how to do it, and the factory firmware images (you will need the correct one for your device, all the ones available are in this thread.
Next, read the first two posts in this thread... this is the instructions in detail of exactly how to flash a firmware image. Pay attention to the warnings and follow the linked threads with more information and make sure you understand all of it.
Once you have read and understand this part, you need to get fastboot working... this tool is essential to making all this work. Both of the threads I mentioned above have links to the drivers and Minimal ADB & Fastboot you will need. Install them and make sure they are working.
Now you can unlock the bootloader, this will wipe all data on your device. The instructions and process are done directly with Moto here.
Once you have unlocked the bootloader, reboot and start the bootloader and follow the instructions in the threads above, noting that the part where enter the command "fastboot flash partition gpt.bin" will likely fail because you are downgrading, but no other pieces should fail, if they do enter them again (radios are known to need to be done 2-3 times sometimes before taking), and continue all the way to the end. Pay attention to the number of sparcechunks in your image, it can will vary and you need to flash all pieces in order for your device, there could be anywhere from 5-9 pieces.
Keep a log of everything, it is much easier to tell what happened if something goes wrong by looking at the terminal log (scroll back of the terminal window) than just guessing.
TBH... I am not endorsing this method, but it generally does work, and although it is difficult to brick the Moto G 2015 it is not impossible. After you are done, you will need to root the device and freeze the updater service so you are not constantly prompted to update, and taking an OTA update can be problematic since your bootloader and/or partition table will not match the rest of the ROM correctly.
Personally I think since you have to unlock the bootloader anyway, you are probably better off just looking for a custom ROM like CM13, Resurrection Remix, or something like that since there are lots of rock solid Marshmallow aftermarket ROMs. Or if you are dead set on Lollipop, using CyanogenMod 12.1 instead of downgrading.
I know there is a downgrade utility out there, and not to take away from the developers work but I would suggest avoiding it.

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[Q] "Installation aborted" with 4.4.4 OTA and CWM

I have a rooted Moto G with CWM Recovery and by stupidity installed the 4.4.4 OTA.
CWM aborts the installation, the phone reboots and unfortunately after the ROM is booted it automatically reboots to once more try and install the OTA.
So what are my options now? When a similar thing happened on my Nexus 7, I just flashed the factory image and all was fine. But I'm not sure what image to use for the Moto G. Is there even an official flashable image? If not, which is closest to stock?
Or is it possible to prevent the phone from automatically rebooting? I can access it with adb and have 10-20 seconds after the boot where I could open some apps.
bur2000 said:
I have a rooted Moto G with CWM Recovery and by stupidity installed the 4.4.4 OTA.
CWM aborts the installation, the phone reboots and unfortunately after the ROM is booted it automatically reboots to once more try and install the OTA.
So what are my options now? When a similar thing happened on my Nexus 7, I just flashed the factory image and all was fine. But I'm not sure what image to use for the Moto G. Is there even an official flashable image? If not, which is closest to stock?
Or is it possible to prevent the phone from automatically rebooting? I can access it with adb and have 10-20 seconds after the boot where I could open some apps.
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You can find all the stock firmware images here:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14
Flash either with RDS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2637338) or fastboot (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219)
Thanks, there's no 4.4.4 for O2 Germany though. Do I need the right carrier/country? Otherwise I'll just go with 4.4.2
I also found this ROM (it's 4.4.4 despire thread titel). Is there any harm in trying it? I did a backup of the current half-broken system.
bur2000 said:
Thanks, there's no 4.4.4 for O2 Germany though. Do I need the right carrier/country? Otherwise I'll just go with 4.4.2
I also found this ROM (it's 4.4.4 despire thread titel). Is there any harm in trying it? I did a backup of the current half-broken system.
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You can flash any firmware you want, except the ones for dual sim version (but if you want to be totally safe flash the retail de image). 4.4.4 images aren't available currently, you have simply to restore the stock 4.4.2, flash the stock recovery and take the OTA update.
The ROM you linked is for Moto G dual sim variant (XT1033), flashing it will probably cause a soft brick.
I have the exact same problem.
1. Is there any way to get the phone out of this loop and get it usable again without a computer?
2. How can I flash the rom if the phone keeps doing this?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
fertchen said:
I have the exact same problem.
1. Is there any way to get the phone out of this loop and get it usable again without a computer?
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I would say no. Theoretically it might be possible to quickly do something before the phone reboots.
2. How can I flash the rom if the phone keeps doing this?
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Just follow the fastboot link in the post by Azarielz. WARNING: If you don't want to loose you user data don't do the mfastboot erase userdata step. For me that still removed the reboot loop while retaining my data and apps. I had some problems with the mobile connection though, only after I manually searched for available carriers and pressed "select automatically" it connected. After that no problems.
bur2000 said:
After that no problems.
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Thank you very much. I will try that when I get home next week. Will be a nice exercise in living without a phone for some time...
bur2000 said:
I would say no. Theoretically it might be possible to quickly do something before the phone reboots.
Just follow the fastboot link in the post by Azarielz. WARNING: If you don't want to loose you user data don't do the mfastboot erase userdata step. For me that still removed the reboot loop while retaining my data and apps. I had some problems with the mobile connection though, only after I manually searched for available carriers and pressed "select automatically" it connected. After that no problems.
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Just did the same mistake with unlocked & rooted XT1032. I use TWRP and ended up there after every reboot. What I did is use the File Manager under "Advanced" to delete the .zip under /cache. Alternatively you could just wipe cache/ dalvik cache and the update zip should be gone, phone should reboot normally and after app optimization (if you wiped dalvik cache) everything should be back to normal. The first few seconds I got an error when checking for an update, but it went away after a minute.
Not sure if I should go through the trouble of updating to 4.4.4 or wait for Android L that's supposedly coming to the Moto G and X...
I was in the same situation, with bootloader active from cmd:
mfastboot erase cache
or whatever you use
Any improvement?
Hello everyone,
I had the same problem and had to restore a backup.
But can anyone tell us why this happens? Is Google aware of this and is a fix on the way?
I've seen that the update would fix the annoying incompatibility problem with the class 10 SDCards so I'd like to install this update.
I have seen that some of the improvements would also be :
- coloured tiles in the phone dialer
- ability to pause when you record a video
But I can already do that with my phone right now (I'm in 4.4.3 on a Moto G 4G), is this normal ?
Thank you.
suiller said:
I was in the same situation, with bootloader active from cmd:
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Thank you very much, suiller. This:
fastboot erase cache
did it for me.
gnayug said:
Not sure if I should go through the trouble of updating to 4.4.4 or wait for Android L that's supposedly coming to the Moto G and X...
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What would be the easiest/most foolproof way to apply an OTA update when the Moto G is rooted?
fertchen said:
What would be the easiest/most foolproof way to apply an OTA update when the Moto G is rooted?
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That's what I want to know as well. XDA has all these devs and freaks and advanced tutorials but nothing at all for the most simple and popular issues for the average user such as applying an OTA with a rooted device. Apparently it's supposed to work with Phil's Flash Recovery, well it didn't, it gave me the same error message that CWM gave me. Or you're supposed to use "stock recovery", but nobody tells you how to get that in the first place.
...Help?
gnayug said:
That's what I want to know as well. XDA has all these devs and freaks and advanced tutorials but nothing at all for the most simple and popular issues for the average user such as applying an OTA with a rooted device. Apparently it's supposed to work with Phil's Flash Recovery, well it didn't, it gave me the same error message that CWM gave me.
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My guess is that there are just too many versions of phones out there and too many different prerequisites (differences in how the phone was rooted, which apps might have been de-installed, which rom/recovery installed etc) that it is extremely hard and laborious to provide a truly foolproof way. That might be different if there was one standardized manual/tutorial on "Hot to root foolproof and OTA proof for the future" and everyone would follow that precisely.
gnayug said:
Or you're supposed to use "stock recovery", but nobody tells you how to get that in the first place.
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There is a page that lists all the available stock Moto G Roms in different versions. It would be great if there was such a page for the recovery as well.
If there was a person that decided to take care of all these issues for the Moto G on this forum, he or she could maintain a page with direct links to all the tools, roms and recoveries as well as one general (foolproof) and possibly a handful of alternate ways and fixes.
That is a lot of work, particularly dealing with people who are not willing to read more than one sentence in order to get what they want. And certainly it must be frustrating for a "freak" or dev to encounter us newbies on a daily basis. A 101/primer on what boot/recovery/rom etc is would be helpful - and it does even exist in the wiki. It's that many of us don't find it. That could be changed by a very well thought-out and structured sticky post that provides all the necessary links and knowledge but not too much so that a beginner is frightened by 10 pages of instructions.
But I am certain that a person would be willing to do that if this forum allows it (which I assume is the case). Maybe this person has not been identified yet. Or maybe we have just missed it. I know I will not be this person simply because it would take me a lot of time to gather the necessary knowledge for such a position and right now I have other priorities and I usually use my phone once every 10 days or so.
I am aware that as a user I am not entitled to anyone providing this service. At the same time I am pretty sure that there is someone, maybe even within this great community, who would be willing to do it.
By the way, here is how I ultimately fixed the rooted-Moto G-OTA-update-problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/help/how-to-update-rooted-moto-g-t2828857/post54528345
Thank you for the link and everything you wrote! I was actually thinking the same the last few days... If only I was qualified enough or had the time to gather and polish all the information. I realize I shouldn't have written "Freaks". They're hard-working, skilled individuals that provide us with all this amazing software for us to use free of charge. I just wish they'd put some effort into explaining and laying out the basics etc. for all the "newbs" they encounter each day, because what good do their stuff do when nobody knows how to use it? All those devs that put out kernels and ROMs and then make a thread with changelogs and download links WITHOUT actually saying what they contain and why anyone should use them - I'm looking at you.
I'll go try to get my Moto G to 4.4.4 without losing my stuff using your link now, thanks again!:good:

[GUIDE] [clark] How to root Pure/Style on Marshmallow or correct a bad root attempt

It seems no matter how much this topic gets discussed, people still use old methods and they either fail, or they break something like WiFi, Mobile Data, infinite bootloop, or getting stuck on the boot logo... THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN and it IS repairable, usually without reflashing the entire image. The problem comes from using an old method, outdated SuperSU, or incorrect method. This guide will help you correct most issues, or help you to flash root correctly the FIRST time.
I have written rooting guides for multiple Moto device, and I have owned many Moto devices as well, so I have some idea what I am saying and I have tested these methods extensively, they work.
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This guide covers ALL Moto X 2015 models that can be bootloader unlocked and have TWRP available, it doesn't matter if it is the XT1575 or XT1572, the method is identical (untested on Chinese XT1570, but it should work). In fact, this method will work on all 2015 and 2016 series Moto phones running Marshmallow, including the Moto E, X, G3, G4, and Z with the appropriate TWRP image.
Please read completely and make sure you understand each step and how to do it, if you don't get something search the thread or ask an open question, no offense, but do not PM me with a question because you think it is too stupid to ask in public (we all started as noobs), or because you want me to hold your hand and do it for you, I will politely tell you no and ask you to post in the thread.
If you are coming here because you followed an old guide where you used a special boot.img file and now you have no service (WiFi and/or mobile data) and you don't have a TWRP backup to restore first, well, the RIGHT way to fix it is to reflash the current stock firmware image and start over... why? Because the various "help" people give to have you flash the radio files that match the kernel (ie. boot image) that was patched for the old style root method, has now put you in a mismatched firmware environment and could potentially brick on the next OTA. If you are in this situation and don't know for to properly fix it... go to the FAQ section in post #3 below (WIP-incomplete).
If came are coming here to root the first time, or you just thought you could flash SuperSU and reboot and now stuck in either a bootloop or stuck on the boot logo... Your in luck, read on, because we can fix that in a jiffy!
tl;dr version for advanced users: Skip to "How to do it" section to root, or "Do the prep" section to fix a bad root.
I am writing this tutorial because there are still lots of failed root attempts using older "standard" methods that do not work on this device. I also do not like the "one click" root methods, because they can and do fail (KingoRoot will brick a Moto X P/S, regardless of what it's web page says), and when they do people have no idea how to fix it. The manual way is not difficult, and it teaches you how to work on, fix, and use your device on a level above that of the average smartphone user.
I will only cover the details of rooting, the prerequisites are covered elsewhere in detail and I will link to reliable sources for the information. Specifics of the prerequisites are outside of the scope of this tutorial, but are open for discussion in this thread.
Prerequisites:
1) Device must have an unlocked bootloader. See Moto - Unlocking the Bootloader for more info.
NOTE: Performing this prerequisite will give you all the tools (fastboot) and drivers needed to continue, and wipe your device, meaning erase all your information and programs. Make sure to backup any important data first. This step will also permanently void your warranty once an unlock code has been issued by Moto, it doesn't matter if you even use it, your warranty is done.
2) You need to have TWRP installed or one-time booted via fastboot. CWM and other recoveries will NOT work at this time. See the official TWRP pages for clark here. I will NOT teach you how to use TWRP in this thread, if you are going to root you need to understand that your self, but if you get in a real bind I may knudge you in the right direction. I will tell you that there are two modes, flashed or booted, the later is much better if you plan to take an OTA later as long as you don't do something stupid like flash Xposed.
3) You need a copy of the latest STABLE SuperSU ZIP from Chainfire's site on the internal storage or SD card of your device, you can always fine the latest stable version here: https://download.chainfire.eu/supersu/ As of this posting update UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.82-20170528234214.zip (version 2.82) is the current stable version and it has been tested and verified to work.
NOTE: Unless otherwise stated, do not use a beta version for rooting Moto devices. SuperSU versions with even numbers are stable versions, while odd numbered versions are beta editions.
4) Reboot and start TWRP recovery, the method you use to do this doesn't matter (boot or flash).
5) Backup your device with TWRP to your SD card, even if you just unlocked and the phone is as blank as a printed page from a 1988 HP DeskJet printer with it's original cartridges still installed, backup... You will always have a good point to return to if the worst happens.
Do the prep:
Note that the hidden Do the prep section is ONLY for repairing a bad flash, SuperSU has been updated and as of version 2.79 the hidden section should no longer be needed for general purpose root on a working device, you just flash SuperSU. If you flashed an older version and are bootlooped, perform this section and continue.
Now, the procedure is the same whether you are trying to root the first time, or you did it the old way just flashing SuperSU and are now not able to boot...
In TWRP, when you have your backups and are ready to root, first go to Advanced and open the Terminal, in the terminal type this EXACTLY as shown:
Code:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu
Now press ENTER (there is no confirmation returned). You can verify this worked correctly by entering 'cat /data/.supersu' in the terminal and see if it returns "SYSTEMLESS=true", if not, you did it wrong, try the echo command again. Now press exit/back and press the HOME key.
After you have successfully entered the command in the TWRP Terminal you may continue
How to do it:
Go to Install and select the SuperSU zip file you downloaded from Prerequisite #3 and swipe to flash it and reboot. No need to clear caches or anything else but you are welcome to if you wish. You can install SuperSU updates normally through the app going forward (as of this posting).
Why do I have to do this???
Again, this is somewhat dated information and only applies to fixing a bootlooping device when improperly rooted.
For whatever reason, the install script for SuperSU does not recognize that this device (like many others) requires a systemless root installation. By creating /data/.supersu in the TWRP recovery environment, the SuperSU install script parses the file and sees "SYSTEMLESS=true" and ignores what it auto-detects and forces a systemless root installation.
Hope this is helpful to someone!
As always, if this is the first time you have booted TWRP or attempted root... BACKUP IN TWRP FIRST!!! Once the system is modified, it cannot be undone (easily) and you will always have a known good starting place if the worst happens.
DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for anything that happens... Your device, your responsibility, no matter what happens... Although all the information here has been tested and is known to work with no issues except where noted, things occasionally can and do go wrong and we cannot foresee every possible scenario or circumstance.
If you need assistance, we need detailed information about what what's going on and what you have tried to do... Please provide details including:
1) Device model number and Android version
2) TWRP version
3) SuperSU version
4) Output of 'cat /data/.supersu' from TWRP terminal
And a copy of recovery.log if possible, and any other pertinent information you can think of. Without specific information there is nothing that I can do to assist you and request for help may be ignored.
EDIT: Photos added showing what a proper command and flash should look like. Note that in picture 1 the exit command is not needed, you can just back out. In pictures 2 and 3 a proper flash of SuperSU is shown, note that system-less mode is specified and the boot image is patched, this is what should occur. It is normal for it to loop once or twice, but that is it, first boot could take 10 minutes plus.
NOTE: I no longer own this device, but will help where I can and will keep this thread open to assist users where ever possible, but I no longer have a device to test/verify things with.
Alternate Method #1
Some users have noted that the above method doesn't seem to work, we don't know why as it seems inconsistent but we can't pin it down specifically to user error, certain model number or build, or anything else, as it works 98% of the time...
But if the above method fails, the alternative is to download and copy to SD card or internal storage SuperSU 2.62-3 ßeta version available here and flash it through TWRP like normal.
Reserved - FAQ (oops, guess I already did that)
I'm so glad I found this thread! I've been procrastenating fixing my phone because of all the crappy methods. This one very easy to follow!
But still can't manage to get my WiFi working
I don't get it. But somehow my nandroid backup failed too, because it's only some 2.X MB big and I don't seem to recover anything....
So I guess I'll have to keep trying..
FYI:
1) Moto X Style 6.0
2) TWRP 3.0.2-0
3) Tried both 2.78 and 2.62. Currently running 2.62
4) SYSTEMLESS=true
Jorinde123 said:
I'm so glad I found this thread! I've been procrastenating fixing my phone because of all the crappy methods. This one very easy to follow!
But still can't manage to get my WiFi working
I don't get it. But somehow my nandroid backup failed too, because it's only some 2.X MB big and I don't seem to recover anything....
So I guess I'll have to keep trying..
FYI:
1) Moto X Style 6.0
2) TWRP 3.0.2-0
3) Tried both 2.78 and 2.62. Currently running 2.62
4) SYSTEMLESS=true
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Find the latest rom image for the version you have installed, and flash the radios with fastboot.
acejavelin said:
Find the latest rom image for the version you have installed, and flash the radios with fastboot.
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Thanks for your quick reply. Tried that, didn't work.. The ROM i'm currently running is MPH24.49-18 btw... I'm now trying it the hard way, just reverting everything step by step. But the first step (flashing gpt.bin) is already giving me the preflash error. This is going to be a lot harder than I thought and it's been too long since I've been flashing these things.
Used to flash my Moto Milestone and my Sony X10, can you imagine.
Jorinde123 said:
Thanks for your quick reply. Tried that, didn't work.. The ROM i'm currently running is MPH24.49-18 btw... I'm now trying it the hard way, just reverting everything step by step. But the first step (flashing gpt.bin) is already giving me the preflash error. This is going to be a lot harder than I thought and it's been too long since I've been flashing these things.
Used to flash my Moto Milestone and my Sony X10, can you imagine.
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Because you are not on 49-18, if you were on the latest OTA for 6.0 you were on 49-18-4. Pre-flash validation failure confirms your using the wrong version. Look in my sig for the return to stock thread, there are links to current roms and discussion of the 'preflash validation error'.
Wasn't systemless method only intended for not altering the system partition in such way not to break compatibility with Android Pay and such apps that don't allow root?
Maybe I got it wrong when I first saw the appearance on the scene of systemless root. From what you are saying the auto detect it's supposed to detect with which method the device is compatible (not only detects if system was already modified? let's say like by TWRP).
I wasn't able to flash SuperSu newest stable versions either, all ended up stuck at boot, except for the 2.62 version (updatable later through playstore and binaries thorugh app via normal update). Honestly I haven't tried systemless as for me I through it was a waste (as said I through it wasn't meant for other purpose).
ATM I'm using CM's own root, but I will report as soon as I will try SU again. I never had problems with modem/wifi with SU, only that it didn't boot on newer stable builds.
Got the Moto X Pure a few days ago. It came with 6.0. This procedure works. Thank you!
ban.codrut said:
Wasn't systemless method only intended for not altering the system partition in such way not to break compatibility with Android Pay and such apps that don't allow root?
Maybe I got it wrong when I first saw the appearance on the scene of systemless root. From what you are saying the auto detect it's supposed to detect with which method the device is compatible (not only detects if system was already modified? let's say like by TWRP).
I wasn't able to flash SuperSu newest stable versions either, all ended up stuck at boot, except for the 2.62 version (updatable later through playstore and binaries thorugh app via normal update). Honestly I haven't tried systemless as for me I through it was a waste (as said I through it wasn't meant for other purpose).
ATM I'm using CM's own root, but I will report as soon as I will try SU again. I never had problems with modem/wifi with SU, only that it didn't boot on newer stable builds.
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No, although that was one thing we thought we would gain (which we didn't), Systemless root is to get around Marshmallow security. Root is detected by SafetyNet API, and it detects pretty much any system modification, systemless or not
Currently Using TWRP 3.0.2.0 . Just unlocked bootloader and haven't done anything else . Recovery flash went well during the initial process of unlocking . Now Im trying to make a backup of the stock Rom , everytime I try to make one I keep getting failed at the end of the process ? Is this a known bug ? I have been doing google searches for the past hour and still unable to find anything to indicate anyone else is having this problem . Unless I didn't use the correct terms while searching . Any help would be appreciated
SouthernEvo said:
Currently Using TWRP 3.0.2.0 . Just unlocked bootloader and haven't done anything else . Recovery flash went well during the initial process of unlocking . Now Im trying to make a backup of the stock Rom , everytime I try to make one I keep getting failed at the end of the process ? Is this a known bug ? I have been doing google searches for the past hour and still unable to find anything to indicate anyone else is having this problem . Unless I didn't use the correct terms while searching . Any help would be appreciated
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It is not a known issue... Where are you storing the backup, internal storage or SD card?
acejavelin said:
It is not a known issue... Where are you storing the backup, internal storage or SD card?
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Was backing up to the SD Card . Been messing with it and now its working for some weird reason . I appreciate your quick response though
I used windroid to unlock the bootloader and install twrp( don't reboot system but rather boot into recovery to make twrp stick) , from there I just flashed supersu and I was good to go. Many methods out there but this worked for me.
Thank you so much for this guide. I have to say, as a new Motorola user coming from Samsung phones exclusively, this whole process made me feel like a real noob again.
I made the switch from iOS to Android back when the Galaxy S2 came out because I grew tired of the jailbreak cat and mouse games on the iPhones and iPads. Learning to root and flash ROMs on all my subsequent Samsung devices was fairly simple and very enjoyable. This Moto X Pure though was a real tasker for me. I honestly never knew about the extra steps you had to take to unlock, twrp and root this phone. I really wish manufactures would help us make this much easier.
Anyway, thank you again for your help. I'll be seeing y'all around the forums as a new MXPE user!
acejavelin said:
No, although that was one thing we thought we would gain (which we didn't), Systemless root is to get around Marshmallow security. Root is detected by SafetyNet API, and it detects pretty much any system modification, systemless or not
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Thank you for clarifying a misconception I had on systemless root
(I intentioned to reply to you earlier, but the mad busy week made me forget about my intent )
I'm going to try right now the latest stable with systemless method (rather than flashing the older version) on a full wiped clean stock to see if it works. (Even tho I see lots of feedbacks here inspiring me to believe it would)
In what order?
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It seems no matter how much this topic gets discussed, people still use old methods and they either fail, or they break something like WiFi, Mobile Data, infinite bootloop, or getting stuck on the boot logo... THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN and it IS repairable, usually without reflashing the entire image. The problem comes from using an old method, outdated SuperSU, or incorrect method. This guide will help you correct most issues, or help you to flash root correctly the FIRST time.
I have written rooting guides for multiple Moto device, and I have owned many Moto devices as well, so I have some idea what I am saying and I have tested these methods extensively, they work.
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This guide covers ALL Moto X 2015 models that can be bootloader unlocked and have TWRP available, it doesn't matter if it is the XT1575 or XT1572, the method is identical (untested on Chinese XT1570, but it should work). In fact, this method will work on all 2015 and 2016 series Moto phones running Marshmallow, including the Moto E, X, G3, G4, and Z with the appropriate TWRP image.
Please read completely and make sure you understand each step and how to do it, if you don't get something search the thread or ask an open question, no offense, but do not PM me with a question because you think it is too stupid to ask in public (we all started as noobs), or because you want me to hold your hand and do it for you, I will politely tell you no and ask you to post in the thread.
If you are coming here because you followed an old guide where you used a special boot.img file and now you have no service (WiFi and/or mobile data) and you don't have a TWRP backup to restore first, well, the RIGHT way to fix it is to reflash the current stock firmware image and start over... why? Because the various "help" people give to have you flash the radio files that match the kernel (ie. boot image) that was patched for the old style root method, has now put you in a mismatched firmware environment and could potentially brick on the next OTA. If you are in this situation and don't know for to properly fix it... go to the FAQ section in post #3 below (WIP-incomplete).
If came are coming here to root the first time, or you just thought you could flash SuperSU and reboot and now stuck in either a bootloop or stuck on the boot logo... Your in luck, read on, because we can fix that in a jiffy!
tl;dr version for advanced users: Skip to "How to do it" section
I am writing this tutorial because there are still lots of failed root attempts using older "standard" methods that do not work on this device. I also do not like the "one click" root methods, because they can and do fail (KingoRoot will brick a Moto X P/S, regardless of what it's web page says), and when they do people have no idea how to fix it. The manual way is not difficult, and it teaches you how to work on, fix, and use your device on a level above that of the average smartphone user.
I will only cover the details of rooting, the prerequisites are covered elsewhere in detail and I will link to reliable sources for the information. Specifics of the prerequisites are outside of the scope of this tutorial, but are open for discussion in this thread.
Prerequisites:
1) Device must have an unlocked bootloader. See Moto - Unlocking the Bootloader for more info.
NOTE: Performing this prerequisite will give you all the tools (fastboot) and drivers needed to continue, and wipe your device, meaning erase all your information and programs. Make sure to backup any important data first. This step will also permanently void your warranty once an unlock code has been issued by Moto, it doesn't matter if you even use it, your warranty is done.
2) You need to have TWRP installed or one-time booted via fastboot. CWM and other recoveries will NOT work at this time. See the official TWRP pages for clark here. I will NOT teach you how to use TWRP in this thread, if you are going to root you need to understand that your self, but if you get in a real bind I may knudge you in the right direction. I will tell you that there are two modes, flashed or booted, the later is much better if you plan to take an OTA later as long as you don't do something stupid like flash Xposed.
3) You need a copy of the latest STABLE SuperSU ZIP from Chainfire's site on the internal storage or SD card of your device, you can always fine the latest stable version here: https://download.chainfire.eu/supersu/ As of this posting SR4-SuperSU-v2.78-SR4-20161115184928.zip is the current stable version and it has been tested and verified to work.
NOTE: Unless otherwise stated, do not use a beta version for rooting Moto devices. SuperSU versions with even numbers are stable versions, while odd numbered versions are beta editions.
4) Reboot and start TWRP recovery, the method you use to do this doesn't matter (boot or flash).
5) Backup your device with TWRP to your SD card, even if you just unlocked and the phone is as blank as a printed page from a 1988 HP DeskJet printer with it's original cartridges still installed, backup... You will always have a good point to return to if the worst happens.
How to do it:
Now, the procedure is the same whether you are trying to root the first time, or you did it the old way just flashing SuperSU and are now not able to boot...
In TWRP, go to Advanced and open the Terminal, in the terminal type this EXACTLY as shown:
Code:
echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu
Now press enter (there is no confirmation returned), then exit and press the Home key. You can verify this worked correctly by entering 'cat /data/.supersu' and see if it returns "SYSTEMLESS=true", if not, you did it wrong, try the echo command again.
Go to Install and select the SuperSU zip file you downloaded from Prerequisite #3 and swipe to flash it and reboot. No need to clear caches or anything else but you are welcome to if you wish. You can install SuperSU updates normally through the app going forward (as of this posting).
Why do I have to do this???
For whatever reason, the install script for SuperSU does not recognize that this device (like many others) requires a systemless root installation. By creating /data/.supersu in the TWRP recovery environment, the SuperSU install script parses the file and sees "SYSTEMLESS=true" and ignores what it auto-detects and forces a systemless root installation.
Hope this is helpful to someone!
As always, if this is the first time you have booted TWRP or attempted root... BACKUP IN TWRP FIRST!!! Once the system is modified, it cannot be undone (easily) and you will always have a known good starting place if the worst happens.
DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for anything that happens... Your device, your responsibility, no matter what happens... Although all the information here has been tested and is known to work with no issues except where noted, things occasionally can and do go wrong and we cannot foresee every possible scenario or circumstance.
If you need assistance, we need detailed information about what what's going on and what you have tried to do... Please provide details including:
1) Device model number and Android version
2) TWRP version
3) SuperSU version
4) Output of 'cat /data/.supersu' from TWRP terminal
And a copy of recovery.log if possible, and any other pertinent information you can think of. Without specific information there is nothing that I can do to assist you and request for help may be ignored.
EDIT: Photos added showing what a proper command and flash should look like. Note that in picture 1 the exit command is not needed, you can just back out. In pictures 2 and 3 a proper flash of SuperSU is shown, note that system-less mode is specified and the boot image is patched, this is what should occur. It is normal for it to loop once or twice, but that is it, first boot could take 10 minutes plus.
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I really appreciate the help, but I have one question. Do I flash SuperSu and then type the command into the terminal, or do I type the terminal command first?
Thanks again for your help,
Matt
Iglooian said:
I really appreciate the help, but I have one question. Do I flash SuperSu and then type the command into the terminal, or do I type the terminal command first?
Thanks again for your help,
Matt
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First, a little etiquette lesson, please don't quote long posts (especially the first post) for no reason, at the very least edit it down to only show the relevant parts so people don't have to scroll through a long meaningless quote.
And to answer your question, you enter the terminal command first, then install SuperSU, that is how it is ordered in the first post instructions. If you read the entire first post, it explains what the command does, and logic therefore lets you know it must be done first.
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First, a little etiquette lesson, please don't quote long posts (especially the first post) for no reason, at the very least edit it down to only show the relevant parts so people don't have to scroll through a long meaningless quote.
And to answer your question, you enter the terminal command first, then install SuperSU, that is how it is ordered in the first post instructions. If you read the entire first post, it explains what the command does, and logic therefore lets you know it must be done first.
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Actually, it was unclear what order I was supposed to do it in; we call that a clarifying question, but thanks anyway.
Iglooian said:
Actually, it was unclear what order I was supposed to do it in; we call that a clarifying question, but thanks anyway.
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Fair enough... I will edit the "How to do it" section to make it more clear.

Kyocera Brigadier screen black with back light.

I bought a new Brigadier off ebay. Phone is new and never used. The build date was July 2014 and KK 4.4.2. I should have paid more attention to the numbers. After the KK update my phone boots up but does not show anything after the Kyocera screen. It is black with the back light.
This is what I did. I put my SIM card in the phone to check that I can activate it. Then while I was testing out the phone. It downloaded the first update. I do not remember what the number is. The phone had never been used. It was new. I might be able to look it up for update history on big reds site. I did not do the do the update. After seeing it was done. I turned it off and put the SIM card backing the Turbo. After doing some research on rooting. I found that Kingroot (5.0.4) is best, then found this app I can use to remove Kingroot. Last night I was playing more with the phone and then rooted it too. I rebooted it, hotspot my turbo, downloaded root checker, confirmed root, then undated. Phone is at 80% life. Phone shut off and then I let it do its thing. When I came back, the screen is black with the back light on only. I can touch the screen and feel/hear the vibration. I can soft boot, hard boot, and reboot into stock recovery. I did a factory wipe after I read in how to boot stock recovery. Yes, did nothing. I do know that KK updates can kill your phone. My Droid HD maxx is dead. On that phone, the led light lights green up and the computer does make a sound when connected but does not show it. I have no idea if this has a rsd lite and file to flash. I did not change anything in the system at all. I did not think that Kingroot would mess with my phone if I did the ota. I would then buy this app and remove it. I was waiting for internet to be installed today to further mess with my phone before using it. I do not know how to pull info off my phone.
I know more about Motorola Droid phones. This is phone is new to me. I did do a lot of research out there and mainly on XDA. I have the option to return the phone for a full refund. I would like to see if I can fix the phone before hand. I have till this weekend to send it back.
Claps1775 said:
I bought a new Brigadier off ebay. Phone is new and never used. The build date was July 2014 and KK 4.4.2. I should have paid more attention to the numbers. After the KK update my phone boots up but does not show anything after the Kyocera screen. It is black with the back light.
This is what I did. I put my SIM card in the phone to check that I can activate it. Then while I was testing out the phone. It downloaded the first update. I do not remember what the number is. The phone had never been used. It was new. I might be able to look it up for update history on big reds site. I did not do the do the update. After seeing it was done. I turned it off and put the SIM card backing the Turbo. After doing some research on rooting. I found that Kingroot (5.0.4) is best, then found this app I can use to remove Kingroot. Last night I was playing more with the phone and then rooted it too. I rebooted it, hotspot my turbo, downloaded root checker, confirmed root, then undated. Phone is at 80% life. Phone shut off and then I let it do its thing. When I came back, the screen is black with the back light on only. I can touch the screen and feel/hear the vibration. I can soft boot, hard boot, and reboot into stock recovery. I did a factory wipe after I read in how to boot stock recovery. Yes, did nothing. I do know that KK updates can kill your phone. My Droid HD maxx is dead. On that phone, the led light lights green up and the computer does make a sound when connected but does not show it. I have no idea if this has a rsd lite and file to flash. I did not change anything in the system at all. I did not think that Kingroot would mess with my phone if I did the ota. I would then buy this app and remove it. I was waiting for internet to be installed today to further mess with my phone before using it. I do not know how to pull info off my phone.
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The update you did was a stock update, correct?
You said the device was rooted and then you did the update, correct?
That's where you screwed up, you can't do stock updates on a rooted device, you have to remove root, have stock recovery and have an unmodified system partition before doing the update.
You should have done the update and THEN rooted the device.
Now just do a Google search for:
"How to unbrick (your model number)"
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Droidriven said:
The update you did was a stock update, correct?
You said the device was rooted and then you did the update, correct?
That's where you screwed up, you can't do stock updates on a rooted device, you have to remove root, have stock recovery and have an unmodified system partition before doing the update.
You should have done the update and THEN rooted the device.
Now just do a Google search for:
"How to unbrick (your model number)"
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Yes and yes. Okay. I know with droids when I was bootloader locked and rooted. I was fine updating. There was a change on loosing root. It's all about learning. I will try to find out how to unblock my phone. Thank you for the response.
Have you came across the ota .IMG file?
I was able to power my phone off. I connected the phone to my computer, installed the software, and tried the repair part. Failed on downloading. Version on my phone is 1.102VZ.
I found more info on xda refuring to the http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=597313&st=3680 site. I am not able to do anything with my phone now. Cannot get it to boot in recovery or even have my pc see it. The verizon apk sees it where I can still try to repair or update. That is it. I am going to send it back for a full refund and be done with this phone. Cannot spend weeks trying to fix this right now. Thanks all for the help.
Update. I got my phone into Fastboot. I was able to get phone into twrp recovery. How ever, I am not able to find a img I can flash to my phone then I will be able to use my phone. Ones I have found are twrp back ups that I have no clue how to flash. I downloaded Rom_5.1.1_3153LR_Modem_3153LR_E6782 and I hope to see if I can flash it or not in twrp. I still do not understand Android_SDK and how to use it. I am not sure if I can use twrp recovery from the Kyocera Brigadier E6782 Toolkit v1.2 I downloaded from the http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=597313&st=620#entry35662165 or not. All I am doing now is trying and seeing what happens. If anyone knows more please share.
I was able to flash the Rom_5.1.1_3153LR_Modem_3153LR_E6782 and my phone booted up and went into the optimizing but it is in Russian. I am further than I was. Need to find out if this is changeable to English and it all works. Yes, I do know that I will not flash anything than 5.0 now since the bootloader is locked or it can be unlocked with a code. Phone is up and running. I need a 5.1.1 US now.
It is not in Russian. It is in vietnamese. But I still need a clean 5.0 full rom.
Claps1775 said:
Update. I got my phone into Fastboot. I was able to get phone into twrp recovery. How ever, I am not able to find a img I can flash to my phone then I will be able to use my phone. Ones I have found are twrp back ups that I have no clue how to flash. I downloaded Rom_5.1.1_3153LR_Modem_3153LR_E6782 and I hope to see if I can flash it or not in twrp. I still do not understand Android_SDK and how to use it. I am not sure if I can use twrp recovery from the Kyocera Brigadier E6782 Toolkit v1.2 I downloaded from the http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=597313&st=620#entry35662165 or not. All I am doing now is trying and seeing what happens. If anyone knows more please share.
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You can use the TWRP backups by choosing the restore option in TWRP then selecting the backup file and it will restore the data in the file to your device.
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Droidriven said:
You can use the TWRP backups by choosing the restore option in TWRP then selecting the backup file and it will restore the data in the file to your device.
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I will try that. I have to get it into fastboot and that can take a few tries. The firmware I have on it has no verizon apps. It is a mod by someone. I am going to try original firmware 5.1.1 firmware. Downloading right now. it is a .rar file. Making head way witch is good. I am learning for sure.
I got into fastboot mode. I tried to go into twrp using the Kyocera Brigadier E6782 Toolkit v1.2 as I did before. Now, I am stuck at the Android screen and it will not go into twrp. Ahh.
Claps1775 said:
I got into fastboot mode. I tried to go into twrp using the Kyocera Brigadier E6782 Toolkit v1.2 as I did before. Now, I am stuck at the Android screen and it will not go into twrp. Ahh.
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That's because of your now locked bootloader, can't use TWRP with locked bootloader.
It's a little late now, you need to slow down, if you had done some searching to see how to use TWRP backups(the information is literally everywhere in every device forum here, it works the same for all devices), you would have been able to restore one of those backups, you'd have the device fixed and you wouldn't have a locked bootloader, that bootloader limits your options now, it leaves you only the option of finding the correct stock firmware.
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Droidriven said:
That's because of your now locked bootloader, can't use TWRP with locked bootloader.
It's a little late now, you need to slow down, if you had done some searching to see how to use TWRP backups(the information is literally everywhere in every device forum here, it works the same for all devices), you would have been able to restore one of those backups, you'd have the device fixed and you wouldn't have a locked bootloader, that bootloader limits your options now, it leaves you only the option of finding the correct stock firmware.
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I never knew it was unlock. On the Android screen it had a 1 at the top left corner and it is still there. I am trying to find the correct firmware and flash it. I am able to see my phone in the adb file I used to flash twrp on my Droids. I have done a lot of research and and the 4pda.ru site. I am sent a lot of pms out to XDA memebers and got nothing back. I have posted a lot and hope someone would replay. I am trying trust me. I flash the wrong one. If I brink the phone, O well. All I can say is I am not trying to give up. Not sure if I can flash a rom or a twrp back up in adb or not. I would like to sit and read up on all of this. Then I could have a better understanding and then may play more.
How can flashing the Rom_5.1.1_3153LR_Modem_3153LR_E6782 even lock the bootloader? Eventhing I read talked about it being locked. It says in the box, Failed (remote: bootimage: incomplete or not signed) when I try to boot it into twrp.
Claps1775 said:
I never knew it was unlock. On the Android screen it had a 1 at the top left corner and it is still there. I am trying to find the correct firmware and flash it. I am able to see my phone in the adb file I used to flash twrp on my Droids. I have done a lot of research and and the 4pda.ru site. I am sent a lot of pms out to XDA memebers and got nothing back. I have posted a lot and hope someone would replay. I am trying trust me. I flash the wrong one. If I brink the phone, O well. All I can say is I am not trying to give up. Not sure if I can flash a rom or a twrp back up in adb or not. I would like to sit and read up on all of this. Then I could have a better understanding and then may play more.
How can flashing the Rom_5.1.1_3153LR_Modem_3153LR_E6782 even lock the bootloader? Eventhing I read talked about it being locked. It says in the box, Failed (remote: bootimage: incomplete or not signed) when I try to boot it into twrp.
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It locks the bootloader because when you flash the Firmware it upgrades to a different bootloader, one that is locked, it's coded into the firmware, it is intended to verify software signatures at boot, if the signature isn't what it's looking for it won't allow the software to load. Your TWRP, for example won't boot because it doesn't have the right signature, only your stock firmware has the right signature and there isn't a way to fake it. Your only chance of using TWRP is if your bootloader can be unlocked, not all bootloaders can be unlocked. It's a security measure installed by the manufacturer or your carrier to prevent flashing and modding the device, it's pretty effective and has become very common on a lot of devices since KitKat. It was implemented because they got tired of replacing devices due to the user modifying them and screwing them up, modified devices technically void the warranty but if screwed up enough they can't tell it has been modified, thus, they've been replacing devices that they weren't obligated to replace, they know this and are trying to put a stop to it.
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It locks the bootloader because when you flash the Firmware it upgrades to a different bootloader, one that is locked, it's coded into the firmware, it is intended to verify software signatures at boot, if the signature isn't what it's looking for it won't allow the software to load. Your TWRP, for example won't boot because it doesn't have the right signature, only your stock firmware has the right signature and there isn't a way to fake it. Your only chance of using TWRP is if your bootloader can be unlocked, not all bootloaders can be unlocked. It's a security measure installed by the manufacturer or your carrier to prevent flashing and modding the device, it's pretty effective and has become very common on a lot of devices since KitKat. It was implemented because they got tired of replacing devices due to the user modifying them and screwing them up, modified devices technically void the warranty but if screwed up enough they can't tell it has been modified, thus, they've been replacing devices that they weren't obligated to replace, they know this and are trying to put a stop to it.
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I messed up a great phone I was looking forward of using. I thought I had it all lined up. I read a lot and thought I understood things. Can it befixed? By Kyocera only I say. I wanted on 5.0 is while I flashed that rom. I did not know it was a custom one. I truly feel bad that I messed up a great phone. I am going to stick with Motorola Droids and HTC for me wife. I am up very late trying to figure this all out. I am going to stick with things I know even though I love a challenge and learning. Thank you for the help, yes, I should have slowed down but everything was going great. Live and learn.
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I messed up a great phone I was looking forward of using. I thought I had it all lined up. I read a lot and thought I understood things. Can it befixed? By Kyocera only I say. I wanted on 5.0 is while I flashed that rom. I did not know it was a custom one. I truly feel bad that I messed up a great phone. I am going to stick with Motorola Droids and HTC for me wife. I am up very late trying to figure this all out. I am going to stick with things I know even though I love a challenge and learning. Thank you for the help, yes, I should have slowed down but everything was going great. Live and learn.
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When some, lose some.
For future reference, when you want to update or modify a device, try doing some research into what NOT to do or what can go wrong with that particular device and how to fix it if it does BEFORE you focus on what CAN be done on that device and before you actually do anything to the device. Cover the bases, ask questions, search for issues others might have had when they modified their device.
Remember, just because something is available for that device, doesn't mean you can use it. Things change from android version to android version and this stock firmware to that stock firmware for a device, such as whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked, among other possible differences that can turn things into a train wreck.
Android devices are all different and are not all done the same. What and how it is done on "this" device is not the same on "that" device.
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No WiFi when I root?

This is my first android phone, so bare with me here just made the switch from scummy apple.
I have unlocked the bootloader, it says so in the bootloader and system settings. I followed this guide, which didn't work(no wifi networks available). Then I used this here to reinstall stock rom. I then tried this method of rooting here, which I still had no wifi. Again I'm a noob, I followed all of these guides to the bone, which none of them worked for me, so I could have missed anything.
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said fastboot instead of bootloader
haha i guess
I know I should be mad at myself but I'm just happy I "fixed" it...
I was 5.1.3 instead of 5.1.5................................................... face palm
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Sithex said:
I know I should be mad at myself but I'm just happy I "fixed" it...
I was 5.1.3 instead of 5.1.5................................................... face palm
p.s.
i dont know how to close threads
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Sithex said:
This is my first android phone, so bare with me here just made the switch from scummy apple.
I have unlocked the bootloader, it says so in the bootloader and system settings. I followed this guide, which didn't work(no wifi networks available). Then I used this here to reinstall stock rom. I then tried this method of rooting here, which I still had no wifi. Again I'm a noob, I followed all of these guides to the bone, which none of them worked for me, so I could have missed anything.
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said fastboot instead of bootloader
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Your problem is probably caused by the root procedure. There are many explanations. For me the most plausible one is the one from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/unofficialbeta-twrp-oneplus-6-t3798439.
Scroll down to the instruction: ***FOLLOW THIS STEP BY STEP. IF YOU EXPERIENCE ERRORS, BROKEN WIFI, BOOTLOOPING, SOFTBRICK, HARDBRICK YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG; START OVER*** and follow exactly each step as explained.
Finally important is that you end up booting the system from the correct slot, in most cases this is Slot B. Get sure in advance, on which slot you are before rooting. If the slot you were on, changes e.g. from B to A during the root procedure you have to go back to B and boot system from here. Otherwise booting from the wrong slot could cause issues as you described. Later on you can update twrp to the latest beta version, also described in the thread above.. If you follow the instructions carefully and correctly it will work. It´s much simpler than it sounds now. Enjoy.
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Questions About Bootloader, Root and Roms

Looks like I'm gonna get a free P2 from my son. It maybe has 1 update left before Google abandons it. When I get it I want to root and put Lineage on it, or maybe a different rom based on opinions provided.
I have some questions:
1- I'm looking for the simplest method to unlock the bootloader and root, as I am not the most knowledgable Android/Linux user. I'm familiar with adb, although best if I can follow a written script. I would appreciate a recommendation on which method posted on XDA. I've seen Deuces and Nathanchance's methods. They seem easy enough to follow along with.
2- I'm a little confused about the Pixel factory images that folks mention in their posts. I see that Google has images catalogued on their site for downloading. How do you choose which one to flash to the phone after bootloader/root process? Does it matter? I'm located in Canada if that makes a difference.
3- I have used TWRP and never used Magisk for loading roms. I also see from one of the bootloader unlock/root methods that TWRP may not be all that reliable. Would TWRP be good enough to flash the factory image with, or should I get familiar with Magisk?
4- Am I correct in thinking that the Google image is flashed first to get the phone up and running, followed by Lineage (and gapps), or an different rom that would be flashed thereafter with TWRP/Magisk?
5- If I screw up during the unlock/root is there a recovery method available?
Thanks for any help provided.
jjcdennis said:
Looks like I'm gonna get a free P2 from my son. It maybe has 1 update left before Google abandons it. When I get it I want to root and put Lineage on it, or maybe a different rom based on opinions provided.
I have some questions:
1- I'm looking for the simplest method to unlock the bootloader and root, as I am not the most knowledgable Android/Linux user. I'm familiar with adb, although best if I can follow a written script. I would appreciate a recommendation on which method posted on XDA. I've seen Deuces and Nathanchance's methods. They seem easy enough to follow along with.
2- I'm a little confused about the Pixel factory images that folks mention in their posts. I see that Google has images catalogued on their site for downloading. How do you choose which one to flash to the phone after bootloader/root process? Does it matter? I'm located in Canada if that makes a difference.
3- I have used TWRP and never used Magisk for loading roms. I also see from one of the bootloader unlock/root methods that TWRP may not be all that reliable. Would TWRP be good enough to flash the factory image with, or should I get familiar with Magisk?
4- Am I correct in thinking that the Google image is flashed first to get the phone up and running, followed by Lineage (and gapps), or an different rom that would be flashed thereafter with TWRP/Magisk?
5- If I screw up during the unlock/root is there a recovery method available?
Thanks for any help provided.
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Pixel 2 was updated to android 11, and will likely continue to to get monthly security updates until the release of android 12, so you should have about another year if staying stock.
As far as rooting, the xda guides as you mentioned are pretty straightforward and comprehensive.
Pixel factory images are the stock system images that are provided by google. They are what you would flash if you wanted to run a stock system, and also the means for 'resetting' the phone back to a factory state in the event of a screwup. On the site, you'll notice that google has each of the images organized by phone type (the Pixel 2 is walleye) and within each phone type is operating system version going from oldest at the top to newest at the bottom. Typically you'd want to flash the newest os version unless you have a special use case. There are also cases where a particular version is only for a particular carrier, in which case google will note it under the version number.
As far as flashing lineage, I'm not too sure. I run stock (rooted) on my P2, but lineage is it's own rom so would be flashed directly via twrp. I would image the lineage thread would have install instructions and q/a.
clcdev said:
Pixel 2 was updated to android 11, and will likely continue to to get monthly security updates until the release of android 12, so you should have about another year if staying stock.
As far as rooting, the xda guides as you mentioned are pretty straightforward and comprehensive.
Pixel factory images are the stock system images that are provided by google. They are what you would flash if you wanted to run a stock system, and also the means for 'resetting' the phone back to a factory state in the event of a screwup. On the site, you'll notice that google has each of the images organized by phone type (the Pixel 2 is walleye) and within each phone type is operating system version going from oldest at the top to newest at the bottom. Typically you'd want to flash the newest os version unless you have a special use case. There are also cases where a particular version is only for a particular carrier, in which case google will note it under the version number.
As far as flashing lineage, I'm not too sure. I run stock (rooted) on my P2, but lineage is it's own rom so would be flashed directly via twrp. I would image the lineage thread would have install instructions and q/a.
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