I've seen some pictures show the new AFC charger for Note 7 rates at 25w, battery capacity remains at 3500mAh, compared with Note 5 and S7, the charging speed would be much faster, however, i doubt the 3500mAh battery could endure the fast charge of 25w.
That seems like a good question. From what I have been reading the adaptive fast charging(comparable to Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0) will be supported on the Note 7 even though the Note 7 will pack the Qualcomm 820 processor in the US, that if it was supported would be able to do the Qualcomm Quick charge 3.0, but unfortunately Samsung has removed that option to stay the same as the Exynos Processor that does not support Quick Charge 3.0. Samsung doesn't want 1 group of people to have it and another not have it. It is ridiculous to me, then just pack all of the phones with 820 processor with quick charge 3.0 support active.
The backpack accessory that has 3100 mAh battery that charges wireless, only equates to 50% battery, the rest is lost in the battery transference in the reports I have read. Is a bulky accessory costing $90 for only 50% more usable battery truly worth it? I don't think so. I would rather pick up the 10,200 mAh Battery Pack with fast charge for like $60-80 instead.
Sorry if my rambling is incoherent.
According to the Samsung reps at the unpack event, it will charge slower because of the larger battery. Although that doesn't mean in terms of mah charged in say, 10 minutes, the note 7 charges less. The note 5 and 7 will charge at the same speed, just the 7 takes longer to reach 100% since it's a larger battery.
Also, the "adaptive fast charging" is the exact same thing as Qualcomm's quick charge. Samsung only licensed the use and thus got to rename it so they could have a buzz word to sell with.
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I bought the Aukey 5 port desktop charger which has AIPOWER technology so it outputs the specific current for each device. I have found the Nexus 5 charges very quickly - maybe in under 60-90 minutes. What's more, on the lock screen, it says "Charging Rapidly".... So does that mean it has quick charge or something like it?
It seems like it has something that allows it to charge quicker but its not quick charge 2.0, i use a regular 1.8a blackberry charger and it goes from 0% to 100% in around 70-80min like you mentioned.
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There are reviews on amazon saying it charges the nexus 5 quicker, I guess you need a use a kilowatt meter or use the app to find out what mah its at and see if its better than a tablet or other chargers.
Can you download ampere from the play store and reply its mah current,
1amp is somewhat average for me and its charged around 80mins with USB quick charge
Just Xiaomi PowerBank 16000.
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There are reviews on amazon saying it charges the nexus 5 quicker, I guess you need a use a kilowatt meter or use the app to find out what mah its at and see if its better than a tablet or other chargers.
Can you download ampere from the play store and reply its mah current,
1amp is somewhat average for me and its charged around 80mins with USB quick charge
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Well, Nexus 5 comes with Qualcomm's Quick Charge 1.0 as far as I know (same as Nexus 4) and in theory it should charge faster (up to 40% faster compared to devices without it) when connected to certified charger. But they also stated while back that you don't have to buy any new charges to take advantage of this...it's already supported with your old charger...so dunno what's going on there... I'll try to charge my N5 with QC 2.0 charger and see what will happen ...
This was back in 2014, we were harnessing lightning bolts as engineering project.
It's wireless BTW.
Jokes apart, the actual performance I get.
Xiaomi charger, rated at 2.0amp.
Nexus 5 running cata 6 and elementalx 6.05
The back of the phone does get slightly warm.
My Nexus 5 is 1yr 7mnths old.
I get about 3.5-4hr SOT over 24hrs of usage on single charge.
I notice that the speed depends a lot on the USB cable used.
I feel that I may get better battery performance after I get a new one, since over all this while I have used the phone very rigorously.
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I feel that even with 1530ma sustained charge rate, the battery would take 1.33 hrs.
((100-11)/100)*2300=2047
2047/1530=1.3379hrs
I will try with Quick Charge 3.0 tomorrow
I recently buy third party Wireless charger Baseus 10W, but I have problem with it. When I connect it to original Note 9 Charger it won't charge in Fast mode only standard. I little research and find thet older samsung chargers (Galaxy S7...) are work without problem with Fast Wireless Charging.
Note 9 use Charger EP-TA20EBE, if you want to use third party Wireless Chargers use EP-TA20EWE.
I made short video about Baseus Wireless Charger its cheap and very good, its have Fast Charging mod. If you are interested you can check video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlH7uEnG-V4
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Bought this one a week ago; https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0792VBPLV/
It's perfect. Charges really fast, includes its own 24W plugged power-supply. Came highly recommended by a friend who also has this exact same model ravpower and a note 8. Loving it so far.
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Bought this one a week ago; https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0792VBPLV/
It's perfect. Charges really fast, includes its own 24W plugged power-supply. Came highly recommended by a friend who also has this exact same model ravpower and a note 8. Loving it so far.
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How long do you mean by "really fast"? I have an ADATA CW0100 pad and it won't consistently fast-charge with the Note 9's power brick but works fine with my Sony UCH10 QC.20 charger. It still takes about 3 hours to reach maximum capacity.
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How long do you mean by "really fast"? I have an ADATA CW0100 pad and it won't consistently fast-charge with the Note 9's power brick but works fine with my Sony UCH10 QC.20 charger. It still takes about 3 hours to reach maximum capacity.
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I don't own an ADATA pad, so how should I know?
My Note 9 (4023 mAh estimated battery capacity, according to AccuBattery Pro) on average charges to 54% in less than an hour. I consider that fast. By the way, depending on the type battery, but most current batteries don't benefit from charging to the full 100%. With AccuBattery you can find out the sweet spot for your device's battery life, for mine that was around 56%, so I rarely charge it higher than that.
They added qc4, but it's more like qc3 with just 18w(9v 2A). I hope a kernel mod will allow the phone to get 27w which will charge the phone completely in approx 1h 30m to 1h 40m rather than 2h 15m with the 18w charger.
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I think that's a bad idea as they will have specified a battery suitable for 18W charging ...
Battery should last for ages, anyway. It's 5000mAh, very close to pure AOSP, and the display is by no means large.
If you endlessly play with the camera motor, it might drain a bit faster, but otherwise, I suspect this will have the best battery life of any phone in the small flagship class.
I'm fine with QC3.0, since I've used that a lot.
But if it does come with QC4.0 then I couldn't be more happier.
With the battery capacity it has, I don't think I need to charge it all the time so QC3.0 is something extra for me.
The sustained speeds should be higher due to the battery size but I wouldn't personally want to risk modding the charging speed. Sounds like they made the insulation layers pretty small to get the capacity at the expense of charging rate.
My main concern is how well it sustains the speed and the temperatures (QC4 should be decent in that regard) because any maximum speed will drop off a cliff when it gets to 70-80% anyway.
Does it have 4.0 or 4.0+? I've seen some spec sheets saying it has 4.0+
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Does it have 4.0 or 4.0+? I've seen some spec sheets saying it has 4.0+
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It's really difficult to even find data on what the difference of those two are in real world scenarios. If I'm not mistaken the + version requires two PMICs (whereas it sounds like it was optional before) and I think the Zenfone might just have one. Asus themselves advertise 4 without the plus. If you ask me, Qualcomm should just have called it 5.0 to avoid the confusion especially because Qualcomm's own marketing material is very vague on this.
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They added qc4, but it's more like qc3 with just 18w(9v 2A). I hope a kernel mod will allow the phone to get 27w which will charge the phone completely in approx 1h 30m to 1h 40m rather than 2h 15m with the 18w charger.
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The phone didn't charge any faster with my Black Shark 2's QC4+ 27W charger....I need to test that again.
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The phone didn't charge any faster with my Black Shark 2's QC4+ 27W charger....I need to test that again.
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Yes please do that. Will be waiting for some better or whatever results. Thanks in advance.
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They added qc4, but it's more like qc3 with just 18w(9v 2A). I hope a kernel mod will allow the phone to get 27w which will charge the phone completely in approx 1h 30m to 1h 40m rather than 2h 15m with the 18w charger.
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I'd be surprised if the battery didn't get dangerously hot if it's done.
The separator wall of cathode and anode on a battery that can handle faster quick charging would need to be thicker.
Asus chose 5000mAh with a smaller separator to keep size down. In the same size, ASUS could have chosen, like many others have, to have gone with a ~4000mAh battery with a thicker wall to support 30W+ fast charging.
It comes down to trade-offs based on physics. I'm always game for experiments though
Did a very little test. on org charger and cable
Battery on 65% did give 7,5 Volts and 1,65-1,70 Amps
Hello, today, I bought this phone and I plugged it into charger for the first time. However, in my opinion, the phone warms up relatively high compared to my previos samsung S8+. Have you got any experience whit this? Maybe I am too much perceptive and it's normal. And maybe it is the difference between Quick Charge 2.0 (s8+) vs Quick Charge 4.0 (asus)
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Hello, today, I bought this phone and I plugged it into charger for the first time. However, in my opinion, the phone warms up relatively high compared to my previos samsung S8+. Have you got any experience whit this? Maybe I am too much perceptive and it's normal. And maybe it is the difference between Quick Charge 2.0 (s8+) vs Quick Charge 4.0 (asus)
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Mine warms up "as expected" I would say.. nothing surprising at least. Its going to be warmer or less warm depending on where in the charge cycle it is as well
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Can we get faster charge while we use 27W adapter? Or will it break the device?
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The difference between quick charge 4.0 vs 4+ is that 4+ is compatible with USB PD (power delivery) which is the fastest charging standard, its what i think OnePlus and Samsung use for their tech. 4.0+ was revealed in 2017 a year after 4.0. It's lame but unfortunately Asus's zenfone 6 current batches do not support 4+ (however 4+ charging is still backwards compatible with 4, 3, and 2.0, that's why when @MishaalRahman tried their QC4+ 27W charger it didn't charge any faster, it just downgrades to 4.0 charging speed)
there's a chance a refresh of Asus's zenfone 6 may happen with 4+ release. Doubt it..but who knows
4.0 is still supposed to charge faster than 3.0 but I personally don't really see that increase in charge speed. Could be because of the size of the battery but either way I'm still happy with it because the large battery just means less charging (for me personally) since I just mostly do google searches and text, and once in a while use snapchat/ig. Its the perfect phone for me, I bought it yesterday to replace my Pixel XL (gen 1).
S22 Ultra 45W vs S22 Ultra 25W vs S21 Ultra 25W charging test
wouldve expected it to charge much faster, especially when you consider the smaller battery.
Totally expected, 45W works just at lower temperatures and under 50% charge as it was back in the Note 10+ days. It's useful only when you are topping up on the go, for 0-100% it's almost the same
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Totally expected, 45W works just at lower temperatures and under 50% charge as it was back in the Note 10+ days. It's useful only when you are topping up on the go, for 0-100% it's almost the same
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Why expected? That was for previous models. Battery charging could have been improved on this phone too.
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Why expected? That was for previous models. Battery charging could have been improved on this phone too.
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Well it is improved, it was downgraded 2 years ago to be fair and now is back to that state. It charges faster from 0% to 50% which is exactly how it used to work before. If you expected something different your expectations were wrong, don't know what to say. Even devices with very fast charge charge faster for the first half then slow down considerably. Samsung has always had a more conservative approach on charging after the Note 7 debacle, that's why I expected it to be managed like it was before.
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Well it is improved, it was downgraded 2 years ago to be fair and now is back to that state. It charges faster from 0% to 50% which is exactly how it used to work before. If you expected something different your expectations were wrong, don't know what to say. Even devices with very fast charge charge faster for the first half then slow down considerably. Samsung has always had a more conservative approach on charging after the Note 7 debacle, that's why I expected it to be managed like it was before.
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I've traded my Oneplus 7 pro. A 3 year old phone and It still charges much faster than S22 Ultra. Considering to I'm paying for a flagship phone which is over £1000 and it's charging technology called "Super fast" charging. Yeah I'm a bit disappointed.
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Well it is improved, it was downgraded 2 years ago to be fair and now is back to that state. It charges faster from 0% to 50% which is exactly how it used to work before. If you expected something different your expectations were wrong, don't know what to say. Even devices with very fast charge charge faster for the first half then slow down considerably. Samsung has always had a more conservative approach on charging after the Note 7 debacle, that's why I expected it to be managed like it was before.
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The N10+ with the 25w brick will fast charge from 5-70% at the rate of 2%@min on its 4300mAh battery. Between 70-82% it may ramp down slightly, at 90% fast charging disengages.
This is dependent on battery start charging temperature, if too low or high fast charging will not engage, and battery condition. A 20% charge in 10 minutes isn't bad...
Fast charging is limited by heat buildup in the battery caused by internal resistance. The Li cell charging process is actually an endothermic reaction but is outweighed by the internal resistance generated heat.
I can see it being an issue for those that prioritize fast charging over battery longevity. I charge my device overnight and use a Chargie to regulate the charge to a maximum of 80% and limited to 8 watts. I'm not a power user and this method may not work for everyone.
Looks like they're using an older 45 watter. The new ones are the real 45 watts.
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Looks like they're using an older 45 watter. The new ones are the real 45 watts.
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I heard that was the case. The old 45W charger throttled, making it act like a 25W charger. The new one has PPS and is PD 3.0?
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I heard that was the case. The old 45W charger throttled, making it act like a 25W charger. The new one has PPS and is 3.0?
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The old 45 Watt averaged about 28 watts of power iirc. The new one will supposedly give the full advertised wattage. I'm just shocked sammobile out of all sites did not know this...
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The old 45 Watt averaged about 28 watts of power iirc. The new one will supposedly give the full advertised wattage. I'm just shocked sammobile out of all sites did not know this...
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That is shocking. Do you think the new charger will output less heat to the S22 Ultra because of better efficiency thanks to PPS?
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That is shocking. Do you think the new charger will output less heat to the S22 Ultra because of better efficiency thanks to PPS?
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I doubt it. QC boosts the charge wattage by increasing the voltage; more volts less amps means less parasitic waste heat.
What's left to improve on the charging protocol side? They to improve the battery itself now for any meaningful performance improvements.
These manufacturers push the hype, the reviewers do too, then long after the release the truth finally comes out.
If you can wait a few months for the dust to settle you'll get a better idea of what to expect.
There is a new 45w charger, model EP-T4510XBEGGB. This one seems to work fine and not overheat.
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I can see it being an issue for those that prioritize fast charging over battery longevity. I charge my device overnight and use a Chargie to regulate the charge to a maximum of 80% and limited to 8 watts. I'm not a power user and this method may not work for everyone.
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Curious as to what your thoughts are regarding the Chargie since Samsung has now added the same charge up to 80% feature in Android 12 under device care. Is it now redundant?
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There is a new 45w charger, model EP-T4510XBEGGB. This one seems to work fine and not overheat.
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And of course that one is sold out everywhere lol, this happens everytime sammy launches a new device. All the accessories are never available, pretty bad they cant get this right its so annoying for us early adopters.
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And of course that one is sold out everywhere lol, this happens everytime sammy launches a new device. All the accessories are never available, pretty bad they cant get this right its so annoying for us early adopters.
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Damn, here in the UK its in stock and has been since even before launch :/
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Damn, here in the UK its in stock and has been since even before launch :/
Im in Canada, it sucks here lol.
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i have those USB-C cable with watt LED display. it only showing 31w on my home 65w aftermarket charger,
also showing only 31w on my 65w aftermarket car charger.
I'm using my OP9P charger lol it works really fast so...I didn't need to buy a separate charger. Thank God since it's sold out
Hello, 4 days ago I bought this new s22 ultra with exynos processor, but it is generating many doubts that the loading of the device I feel that it is going very slow or more than it should be.
It always takes 2 1/2 hours or more to charge 100% with a 47w essenger charger or a Samsung charger that I have from the s10+ which I think is 20w and 3a
Measuring the charging speed in a plant or portable battery that I always have mark at most 20w but never stays at that speed, usually oscillates a lot between 10 and 16w, and stays much more at 10w which makes me weird and annoying because it is very low
I do not know if I should buy a Samsung charger of 25w since from what I have seen the 45w charge does not work, and that charger would be 5A unlike the one I have that is 3A but I do not know if it would make any difference.
I would like to know if it happens to someone else or if it is something normal, this makes me think a lot about changing phones since the charge seems to be very slow.
Please would appreciate any help, I will also leave attached the charging settings I have placed and the measurement I have made with my charger, I serve any advice you have please
Charges fine (inc. super fast) with Samsung charger ex Note 20
I have Samsung (i think 25w charger) and from 10% to 100% Max 1h10 mins
45w charges quick enough
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Hello, 4 days ago I bought this new s22 ultra with exynos processor, but it is generating many doubts that the loading of the device I feel that it is going very slow or more than it should be.
It always takes 2 1/2 hours or more to charge 100% with a 47w essenger charger or a Samsung charger that I have from the s10+ which I think is 20w and 3a
Measuring the charging speed in a plant or portable battery that I always have mark at most 20w but never stays at that speed, usually oscillates a lot between 10 and 16w, and stays much more at 10w which makes me weird and annoying because it is very low
I do not know if I should buy a Samsung charger of 25w since from what I have seen the 45w charge does not work, and that charger would be 5A unlike the one I have that is 3A but I do not know if it would make any difference.
I would like to know if it happens to someone else or if it is something normal, this makes me think a lot about changing phones since the charge seems to be very slow.
Please would appreciate any help, I will also leave attached the charging settings I have placed and the measurement I have made with my charger, I serve any advice you have please
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It's a QuickCharge 3. It's an old standard for Snapdragon phones and Samsung S-series before s20. To charge fast You need 45W PPS PD 3.0 charger. PPS is crucial.
If i remember correct samsung 45watt charging is 9v x 5A not 5v x 9A. If you have 3A the maximum you can charge is 27w (9v x 3A) but if your charger is 5v then only 15w (5v x 3A).
Exynos very fast charging battery and I tested 8 hours on TV Pingu
FreezerChu said:
Hello, 4 days ago I bought this new s22 ultra with exynos processor, but it is generating many doubts that the loading of the device I feel that it is going very slow or more than it should be.
It always takes 2 1/2 hours or more to charge 100% with a 47w essenger charger or a Samsung charger that I have from the s10+ which I think is 20w and 3a
Measuring the charging speed in a plant or portable battery that I always have mark at most 20w but never stays at that speed, usually oscillates a lot between 10 and 16w, and stays much more at 10w which makes me weird and annoying because it is very low
I do not know if I should buy a Samsung charger of 25w since from what I have seen the 45w charge does not work, and that charger would be 5A unlike the one I have that is 3A but I do not know if it would make any difference.
I would like to know if it happens to someone else or if it is something normal, this makes me think a lot about changing phones since the charge seems to be very slow.
Please would appreciate any help, I will also leave attached the charging settings I have placed and the measurement I have made with my charger, I serve any advice you have please
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Turn off adaptive battery. It will change the charging speed for battery life savings. It's a new feature but has been making people think fast charging modes aren't working.