imposible to have root with stock kernel and stock firmware? - Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im having strange issues with root and super su, when i install cf auto root on a brand new fresh stock firmware at the next few hours super su suddenly sais:
There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!
i know that changing the kernel fixes this... but cant i stay with root & stock kernel and firmware...?

Of you are already rooted i can advise you that you should change the kernel because custom cerbels are much better than the stock one, they have more benefits and better battery life undervolt changing governor or scheduler etc etc etc
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mosespl said:
Of you are already rooted i can advise you that you should change the kernel because custom cerbels are much better than the stock one, they have more benefits and better battery life undervolt changing governor or scheduler etc etc etc
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Wich kernel do you suggest me? i only tried arter87 kernel (with this one happened to me the same problem as described above) and i tried too SpaceX Kernel from TeamWin (this one worked for me vero well) but i imagine the are better ones.

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[Kernel] FluffKernel Epic 4G version 1.0.5 Rom Manager Compatiable

Here the the first offical release of Fluff Kernel for the Epic 4G
Ok here are two new versions for you all.One is the performance kernel and the other is the battery saver.Both are using the new version of my initramfs that comes with ChainsDD's Superuser.apk and su binary.So i suggest if you have Superuser.apk installed to uninstall it before flashing either of these kernels since Superuser.apk will be installed in /system/app instead of /data/app.And now for the kernels.Both of these kernels are Rom Manager compatiable and have root in them.
This is the battery saving kernel.Changes to it are:
Both Kernels are updated to DI18 sourcecode.
CPU governor set to userspace you can use SetCPU to set the speed of the kernel if you like although SetCPU seems a bit unstable on anything other then conservative.
Default scheduler set to CFQ
http://www.sdx-downloads.com/devs/skeeterslint/FluffKernel-Epic-V1.0.5B.zip
This is the performance kernel.Changes to it are:
CPU governor set to performance your cpu will always be set to max this gives the best numbers in linpack and quadrant if numbers are you thing.
Default scheduler is set to CFQ.
http://www.sdx-downloads.com/devs/skeeterslint/FluffKernel-Epic-V1.0.5P.zip
This is another battery saver kernel for those who don't want to mess with SetCPU is uses the conservative CPU governor that the overclocked kernels use.
http://www.sdx-downloads.com/devs/skeeterslint/FluffKernel-Epic-V1.0.5C.zip
All kernels have been compiled against a toolchain that is stable on the newest OTA.And all kernels have been built with stock Samsung kernel source with no modifications to the source code all changes were to the .config file.
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This zip can be flashed with ClockWorkMod or can be taken out of the zip and the zImage can put used as a replacement for the zImage in the one click root method although this kernel has root built into it.I recommend removing the JoeyKrim root method to not cuase and conflicts.
This kernel still has some Samsung bloat in it this will be stripped out as time goes on.I will also be trying out different combinations of CPU governors and schedulers to see which one performs the best.So please test it out and post your feedback.
Link to the stock samsung source that was used for these kernels.
http://opensource.samsung.com/ Please search for SPH-D700 DI18.
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Sorry for the double post but does this kernel have overclocking??
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mrkrabs said:
Sorry for the double post but does this kernel have overclocking??
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No it doesn't.
Is this the new kernel from the ota
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dondadah88 said:
Is this the new kernel from the ota
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Was just about to ask..
No overclock. Will this conflict with custom roms?
rjmjr69 said:
Was just about to ask..
No overclock. Will this conflict with custom roms?
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This is not the kernel from the ota this is a custom compiled kernel it should run fine on any roms that are out right now.I am running it myself with no issues at all to speak of.
skeeterslint said:
This is not the kernel from the ota this is a custom compiled kernel it should run fine on any roms that are out right now.I am running it myself with no issues at all to speak of.
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Thank you. And your right its running just fine right now. I am using it with noobnl latest rom. And I had it running fine on the BOSS rom
Hi
Does this kernel support loop-back. Im trying to install ubuntu on samsung epic.
darknoobie said:
Does this kernel support loop-back. Im trying to install ubuntu on samsung epic.
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All the b usybox applets to setup the the loop device should be there. But I have never tried to use them I will have to check the kernel config to see if the kernel is setup for it.
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Skeeter this its the best kernel I have used on my phone to date, however one thing to note is that the version of busy box used in this kernel is not compatible with ti backup so the busy box that comes with ti back up needs to be used.
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mark920 said:
Skeeter this its the best kernel I have used on my phone to date, however one thing to note is that the version of busy box used in this kernel is not compatible with ti backup so the busy box that comes with ti back up needs to be used.
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Really it works fine for me same version of busybox that i use in all my kernels.Try reloading Ti when its running and see what happens.
skeeterslint said:
Really it works fine for me same version of busybox that i use in all my kernels.Try reloading Ti when its running and see what happens.
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I actually tried installing an updated version of BusyBox from the market and it finds TWO different installs??? And both are old versions lol
Updated OP.
I added a link to a fully compatiable Rom Manager kernel.Try it out its just as fast as vaersion 1.0.1-2.Enjoy everyone.And I want to thank Koush for the recovery.
skeeterslint said:
Updated OP.
I added a link to a fully compatiable Rom Manager kernel.Try it out its just as fast as vaersion 1.0.1-2.Enjoy everyone.And I want to thank Koush for the recovery.
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I have this running and recovery works fine as well as the kernel. Rom manager is nice to have so my thanx goes to skeeter and koush. Its late so I will report any issues I have tomorrow if any arise.
OK I apologize for this but it was very early in the morning when I put this up but I fubar'd my root scripts in the RM kernel it is fixed now please redownload and apply the new zip.
Thanks
skeeterslint said:
OK I apologize for this but it was very early in the morning when I put this up but I fubar'd my root scripts in the RM kernel it is fixed now please redownload and apply the new zip.
Thanks
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That explains a lot lol. My battery has been draining like mad all day and I noticed that JuiceDefender was having all kinds of errors. Re-downloading and applying now....
odub303 said:
That explains a lot lol. My battery has been draining like mad all day and I noticed that JuiceDefender was having all kinds of errors. Re-downloading and applying now....
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OK it was still broken but i promise its fixed now.The battery drain probably wasn't cuased by the kernel some people have had problems with android system running away and draining battery but it has nothing to do with the kernel they have flashed back to the stock kernel and still have had issues with battery drain and android system running away on them.
skeeterslint said:
OK it was still broken but i promise its fixed now.The battery drain probably wasn't cuased by the kernel some people have had problems with android system running away and draining battery but it has nothing to do with the kernel they have flashed back to the stock kernel and still have had issues with battery drain and android system running away on them.
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I wasn't implying that the drain was caused by the kernel, I was saying that my battery was draining because JuiceDefender wasn't able to disable the APN because my root access was broken. D/l-ing update now. Thanks again!
Can i use this kernel with noobnl's Andromeda Galaxy v1.0.3 ROM?

[Q] Overclocking without new kernel?

Hi. I want to overclock my i5800 but i don't want to install new kernel. I tried CM7 ROM and I liked more the original one.
So... Have any possibility to overclock without install a new kernel? Or... Install a kernel with ONLY a modification to overclock.
Since you are using CM7, you also have a new kernel.
The new kernel was required to make CM7 work.
If you also have Update 1 for Alpha 6 installed, I believe you can Overclock to 100 MhZ.
Dympy.
No. I'm not using CM7, I using a original ROM from samsung again. CM7 has a lot of fails at the moment.
I rooted my phone, so I can install kernels. But I don't want to change all kernel, only I wanted to overclock the CPU. It is possible? There is a kernel with the only change is the overclock?
First, you should flash new kernel ( recommend g3mod v2.2.1 OC). Then, install setcpu for OC. And link to download g3mod:
Code:
g3mod.com/g3rm/index.php?about=none
Yes, I know that if I install new kernel like g3mod I can overlock, the question is about don't change the original kernel....
Or the possibility to modify the original samsung kernel to ONLY open the possibility to overclock.
as far as my knowledge u wont OC ur process without install the kernel which supports over-clock...
You are saying that you want to drive a car at 400kmph but you don't wanna drive a veyron, and that's impossible
To overclock, you need to make some changes in the kernel, although it is possible to have a kernel with nothing more but overclocking, but why don't you use fugumod or g3mod.
I tried the CM7 ROM. And I don't liked the menus, the aspect, and the power button functions. I like how is from samsung, only I want more speed on CPU
I'm looking for the same solution! I like the original Samsung ROM, but I really want to overlock the CPU! I used Kyrillos' ROM v9.4, but I was not satisfied with it, so I've reinstalled the original ROM.
So pros, please give us a solution!
Milho said:
I'm looking for the same solution! I like the original Samsung ROM, but I really want to overlock the CPU! I used Kyrillos' ROM v9.4, but I was not satisfied with it, so I've reinstalled the original ROM.
So pros, please give us a solution!
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Flash a oc kernel with odin and keep your stock rom
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on my test mobile I have installed the XXJPU stock ROM
flashed the G3 performance 1.9 kernel, works perfect
by default the kernel runs at 800MHz
install setcpu (root required) and you can adjust the cpu
so in two words:
stock ROM with stock kernel -> no cpu adjustment possible
stock ROM with other kernel -> set your cpu in a range you like

[Overclocking] [ICS/GNexus] GPU & Processor & RAM - Kernel Q and A

So I recently rooted my Galaxy Nexus and other than using WidgetLocker I haven't done anything to my phone to take advantage of my root and SU privileges.
This is my first phone that I have done this too so this is all a major learning curve which brings me to my question(s):
(1) Can the phones memory be over locked?
[If yes....] What are the factory Memory Times and what is a safe level to overclock them to - and How?
(2) What is the factory setting for the processor and what is a safe and efficient overclocked setting?
Is the Highest (but again safe and efficient) level a noticeable change?
(3) Overclocking the GPU can reach a maximum setting of 512Mhz (correct?)
What is the default setting for the GPU and is overclocking the GPU to the highest (but "safest" & efficient) level noticeable and worth the trouble?
(4) How do I overclock my phone?
I know that (probably) a kernel replacement is going to be the answer to this question but I was wondering if maybe there is a script I could run in recovery console or terminal, whatever...instead of replacing the entire kernel.
If the kernel is the only way, does this effect future ICS system updates?
What is the best (most stable, most features, best for overclocking) kernel for ICS/GalaxyNexus? - I dont know poop about kernels.
(4a) with the kernel loaded, what apps do I need to snatch from the market to actually overclock my Galaxy Nexus? Try to recommend free ones please =P
(5) Since I am replacing the Kernel, should I dive in 100% and flash a ROM too?
Yes?: what is the best (very very stable, fast, efficient, tweakable) ROM out there for GNexus?
do roms do anything to assist in the overclocking process?
The only reason I would consider a ROM too is because I want Wifi/USB Tethering, Facebook contact syncing, and a few other things.. but only if there are overclocking tools too!
Does flashing a ROM eliminate myself from ICS updates(pretty sure the answer is yes)??
(6) I am currently on a stock kernel and "rom" (if u couldn't tell...) but I am rooted and using Launcher Pro (free version) and I am happy with it but out of the other launchers which is the best (fastest, easy to use, customisable)?
If I flash a custom ROM will a custom launcher be necessary or do they cone with tweaked launchers?
I had other questions but I can't think of it right now, I'll update the OP and thread if I think of anymore. Thank you so much community members for taking time to answer these questions!!!
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ksaul said:
(1) Can the phones memory be over locked?
[If yes....] What are the factory Memory Times and what is a safe level to overclock them to - and How?
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No, it can't.
(2) What is the factory setting for the processor and what is a safe and efficient overclocked setting?
Is the Highest (but again safe and efficient) level a noticeable change?
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1200 MHz is stock, 1350-1400 MHz is the highest you can get at the moment, as stability is an issue.
(3) Overclocking the GPU can reach a maximum setting of 512Mhz (correct?)
What is the default setting for the GPU and is overclocking the GPU to the highest (but "safest" & efficient) level noticeable and worth the trouble?
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307MHz is stock (underclocked), 387MHz I believe is it's nominal speed, and is billed as 'overclocked' here on XDA.
(4) How do I overclock my phone?
I know that (probably) a kernel replacement is going to be the answer to this question but I was wondering if maybe there is a script I could run in recovery console or terminal, whatever...instead of replacing the entire kernel.
If the kernel is the only way, does this effect future ICS system updates?
What is the best (most stable, most features, best for overclocking) kernel for ICS/GalaxyNexus? - I dont know poop about kernels.
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You need to flash a kernel using CWM Recovery. The kernel will be rewritten every time you flash a new ROM with that ROMs kernel, if you like a specific kernel you can reflash after installing a ROM, I use Franco Kernel which is by far the most popular. Once you flash a custom ROM you won't bother with ICS system updates, custom are bleeding edge with custom tweaks and months and months earlier than OTA releases.
(4a) with the kernel loaded, what apps do I need to snatch from the market to actually overclock my Galaxy Nexus? Try to recommend free ones please =P
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SetCPU is by far the best, don't be a cheapskate shell out the $2 for it. AOKP ROM has one built in, but I still use SetCPU.
(5) Since I am replacing the Kernel, should I dive in 100% and flash a ROM too?
Yes?: what is the best (very very stable, fast, efficient, tweakable) ROM out there for GNexus?
do roms do anything to assist in the overclocking process?
The only reason I would consider a ROM too is because I want Wifi/USB Tethering, Facebook contact syncing, and a few other things.. but only if there are overclocking tools too!
Does flashing a ROM eliminate myself from ICS updates(pretty sure the answer is yes)??
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Flashing a custom ROM will stop you being able to recieve OTA's, yes. But like I said earlier, they are ****. Custom ROMs are far, far better, so just keep up to date with your ROMs releases and you will always have a ROM with more features that stock OTAs. Most ROMS come with overclocked kernels, most have optimized kernels also, AOKP even has a built in overclocking program in the settings menu, which might appeal to you.
(6) I am currently on a stock kernel and "rom" (if u couldn't tell...) but I am rooted and using Launcher Pro (free version) and I am happy with it but out of the other launchers which is the best (fastest, easy to use, customisable)?
If I flash a custom ROM will a custom launcher be necessary or do they cone with tweaked launchers?
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I don't know about other ROMs but AOKP comes with a custom launcher called Nova Launcher, it's essentially the stock launcher with tweaks.
wow thank you so much for your reply... i stumbled upon AOKP on droidforums before reading your reply and am actually about to flash it now - thank you for this very detailed response!!
No problem my man, there is actually a good few stable 1500MHz kernels out now and the GPU can be overclocked to 512MHz if you really want to kill your battery.

Trickster Mod on Rooted Stock Note 3

I purchased and used Trickster Mod when I had my Nexus, and loved it. I finally rooted my Note 3 but haven't flashed a custom ROM on it yet. Was wondering if anyone is using this app on their rooted stock Note 3 phones. If so, what settings have you changed?
My specs...
- rooted
- stock
- Android 4.3
- exciting, right?
Thanks.
This is for kernel settings..
You can modify tge voltage and over or under clock the cpu... Etc.
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I know what the app is for as I've used it for a long time. What I'd like to know is if anyone who has rooted their phone (minus flashing a custom ROM) is tweaking their stock kernel & CPU settings. Also, does changing these settings with it being a stock kernel cause any issues with the phone?
I'm dying to install a customer recovery, ROM and kernel, but don't feel like tripping knox and killing my warranty. At least not yet anyway.
I use Trickster Mod too for many years now, it's a great tool. The only thing I have changed is the Governor, from 'ondemand' to 'performance'. Ondemand seems to be the default value. 'Perfomance' gives some boost in GTA SA.
My note 3 : MK2, rooted, Knox 0x0
dustrho said:
I know what the app is for as I've used it for a long time. What I'd like to know is if anyone who has rooted their phone (minus flashing a custom ROM) is tweaking their stock kernel & CPU settings. Also, does changing these settings with it being a stock kernel cause any issues with the phone?
I'm dying to install a customer recovery, ROM and kernel, but don't feel like tripping knox and killing my warranty. At least not yet anyway.
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You can not modify stock kernel settings with Trickster. You need a modified Kernel to change CPU GPU voltage etc.
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how to check which version of Kernel I'm using?

Hello guys,
I'm new to Nexus 5 as well.
I have been using Chroma for few months now/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-chroma-03-31-2015-layers-t3069105
The version I installed on mine is: 8-10-2015 built.
I have been following the post lately,
many people said, 'franco.Kernel' is a good Kernel.
how do I check if I already have franco kernel installed?
I went to About page, it says: 3.4.0-gbebb36b [email protected]#1
also,
if I want to go with franco kernel, what advantages will i get?
do i just need to download this app thru google play to install the franco kernel?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.kernel.free
mrprince123 said:
Hello guys,
I'm new to Nexus 5 as well.
I have been using Chroma for few months now/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-chroma-03-31-2015-layers-t3069105
The version I installed on mine is: 8-10-2015 built.
I have been following the post lately,
many people said, 'franco.Kernel' is a good Kernel.
how do I check if I already have franco kernel installed?
I went to About page, it says: 3.4.0-gbebb36b [email protected]#1
also,
if I want to go with franco kernel, what advantages will i get?
do i just need to download this app thru google play to install the franco kernel?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.kernel.free
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That is stock kernel. Recommend using blu_spark (aka code_blue) over franco.kernel. I won't say FK is abandoned, and it is a good kernel, but it's just not updated for the N5 much anymore. Same thing happened to the N7 2013. When the devs move on, you should also.
What do you get with a custom kernel? They say battery, performance, etc. Most of it is negligible at best. You'll need to read the kernel OPs.
hello,
thank you for your reply.
which kernal are you using for your nexus 5 right now?
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That is stock kernel. Recommend using blu_spark (aka code_blue) over franco.kernel. I won't say FK is abandoned, and it is a good kernel, but it's just not updated for the N5 much anymore. Same thing happened to the N7 2013. When the devs move on, you should also.
What do you get with a custom kernel? They say battery, performance, etc. Most of it is negligible at best. You'll need to read the kernel OPs.
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I use elementalx. It is pretty much stock, but you can mod things. The dev's app is great, too.
mrprince123 said:
how do I check if I already have franco kernel installed?
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Chroma used Franco as the built-in kernel in the past but zephik keeps Google's kernel for a few months.
mrprince123 said:
if I want to go with franco kernel, what advantages will i get?
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Better battery life? Negligible.
New features like color control, governors (highest impact on battery life), S2W, DT2W, USB fast charge... It varies for each kernel.
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do i just need to download this app thru google play to install the franco kernel?
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I suggest you to read (again & again) the kernel threads on XDA before flashing anything. Franco is a well known kernel but we have other awesome kernels.
so my nexus 5 is stuck on the bootloop or the chroma logo...
I flashed:
1) chroma_hammerhead-ota-2015-10-05.zip
2) tk_gapps-modular-nano-5.1.1-20150927-signed.zip
then the nexus 5 was able to boot fine, and I saw the phone already has SuperSU came with the Chroma ROM
3) I went ahead download the BusyBox, and installed
4) reboot to recovery , and flashed blu_spark_r30-6.0_hammerhead_40fbe53.zip
my phone is not stuck on the ChromaLogo .....
I have also tried,, on the step 3, I flashed without installing Busybox.. It's a no go either..
any help would be appreciated..
Thanks
Primokorn said:
Chroma used Franco as the built-in kernel in the past but zephik keeps Google's kernel for a few months.
Better battery life? Negligible.
New features like color control, governors (highest impact on battery life), S2W, DT2W, USB fast charge... It varies for each kernel.
I suggest you to read (again & again) the kernel threads on XDA before flashing anything. Franco is a well known kernel but we have other awesome kernels.
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mrprince123 said:
so my nexus 5 is stuck on the bootloop or the chroma logo...
I flashed:
1) chroma_hammerhead-ota-2015-10-05.zip
2) tk_gapps-modular-nano-5.1.1-20150927-signed.zip
then the nexus 5 was able to boot fine, and I saw the phone already has SuperSU came with the Chroma ROM
3) I went ahead download the BusyBox, and installed
4) reboot to recovery , and flashed blu_spark_r30-6.0_hammerhead_40fbe53.zip
my phone is not stuck on the ChromaLogo .....
I have also tried,, on the step 3, I flashed without installing Busybox.. It's a no go either..
any help would be appreciated..
Thanks
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Here is your mistake: blu_spark_r30-6.0_hammerhead_40fbe53.zip
This kernel version is for Marshmallow.

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