Flashed the G930U fw to my G930P and so far only crossed one issue: FM support.
When loading NextRadio, I'm prompted with an error:
The required software is missing, but we're working hard to enable NextRadio on all devices soon...
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Is this fixable by simply installing "missing software"? if so, what?
Nope. The 930U firmware doesn't include the FM hardware API. And I doubt if there's enough people with 930U's out there who care enough for Samsung to consider implementing it. You and I might... but few others seem to
That's actually pretty discouraging. TMO apparently released a SW update in early May that enabled the built-in FM radio on the S7. Can't think of any good reason why that hasn't been done on the G930U yet.
http://www.androidauthority.com/t-mobile-galaxy-s7-s7-edge-gained-fm-radio-latest-update-690893/
If rooted, and know the right build.prop edits from a carrier variant that has it unlocked, I'm sure we could enable it.
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If rooted, and know the right build.prop edits from a carrier variant that has it unlocked, I'm sure we could enable it.
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If that's the case I would be quite interested in rooting my 930U. The other option is to perhaps flash a major carrier version of the firmware onto it. I've been considering flashing the 930P version.
And I've discovered another interesting, yet discouraging fact about the 930U. I've reported within other threads that I've had possession of three 930u's over the course of the past few weeks. Each of them has shared the problem of very low wifi sensitivity. More specifically, none of the three 930U's I've tested has been able to see the weaker wifi network signals in the area of my residence. And that's based upon a direct comparison among two 930P's (Sprint-provided S7's) and one 930A (an international unlocked S7) that I've tested long side said 930U's. Of course, when someone is dealing with moderate to strong wifi signals they likely won't notice any problem with 930U's. It will only be evident on the weaker signals. But I can assure you there has been a striking difference between the 930U's and the other devices on those weaker wifi signals!
Here's the interesting part. I had contacted Samsung's 2nd level tech support about the wifi deafness on my first 930U. He concluded it was likely a hardware issue. Weeks later another 2nd level Samsung support tech told me he had encountered other complaints about the 930U and low wifi sensitivity. He as well believed it to be a hardware-related issue. Well, today I installed a 3rd party app from the Play store called 'Wifi Connect'. This app actually allows my 930U to see all of the test nodes in my area perfectly fine and at reasonable signal strength., where the firmware wifi scanner can't see any of them! And the app has no trouble seeing these nodes even when its "wifi boost" feature is toggled off. This more or less proves that the low wifi sensitivity on the 930U is not hardware-related at all, but is instead somehow peculiar to the current release of the 930U firmware (G930UUEU2APEH (CSC/CP)). That is to say that I am now convinced it's merely a software bug. I can only hope that more 930U users will notice this issue and complain so Samsung so it might become resolved. A good wifi receiver is pretty important these days!
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If that's the case I would be quite interested in rooting my 930U. The other option is to perhaps flash a major carrier version of the firmware onto it. I've been considering flashing the 930P version.
And I've discovered another interesting, yet discouraging fact about the 930U. I've reported within other threads that I've had possession of three 930u's over the course of the past few weeks. Each of them has shared the problem of very low wifi sensitivity. More specifically, none of the three 930U's I've tested has been able to see the weaker wifi network signals in the area of my residence. And that's based upon a direct comparison among two 930P's (Sprint-provided S7's) and one 930A (an international unlocked S7) that I've tested long side said 930U's. Of course, when someone is dealing with moderate to strong wifi signals they likely won't notice any problem with 930U's. It will only be evident on the weaker signals. But I can assure you there has been a striking difference between the 930U's and the other devices on those weaker wifi signals!
Here's the interesting part. I had contacted Samsung's 2nd level tech support about the wifi deafness on my first 930U. He concluded it was likely a hardware issue. Weeks later another 2nd level Samsung support tech told me he had encountered other complaints about the 930U and low wifi sensitivity. He as well believed it to be a hardware-related issue. Well, today I installed a 3rd party app from the Play store called 'Wifi Connect'. This app actually allows my 930U to see all of the test nodes in my area perfectly fine and at reasonable signal strength., where the firmware wifi scanner can't see any of them! And the app has no trouble seeing these nodes even when its "wifi boost" feature is toggled off. This more or less proves that the low wifi sensitivity on the 930U is not hardware-related at all, but is instead somehow peculiar to the current release of the 930U firmware (G930UUEU2APEH (CSC/CP)). That is to say that I am now convinced it's merely a software bug. I can only hope that more 930U users will notice this issue and complain so Samsung so it might become resolved. A good wifi receiver is pretty important these days!
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I haven't experienced this WiFi problem but like you said, those with strong connections won't notice. I also run the G930U fw on a G930P variant which may factor in.
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And I've discovered another interesting, yet discouraging fact about the 930U. I've reported within other threads that I've had possession of three 930u's over the course of the past few weeks. Each of them has shared the problem of very low wifi sensitivity. More specifically, none of the three 930U's I've tested has been able to see the weaker wifi network signals in the area of my residence.
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Do you have any power saving modes enabled? My home wifi signal is strong, so no issues, and I haven't played with the power saving modes, but just a thought.
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Do you have any power saving modes enabled? My home wifi signal is strong, so no issues, and I haven't played with the power saving modes, but just a thought.
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Both power saving mode and ultra power saving mode are and have been off all along. Per app power saving is on for a number of apps, but that only kicks in on apps that haven't been used in a couple of days (as I understand it). And the built-in wifi provision isn't an app anyway... it's a component of the OS. With the Wifi Connect app loaded, the 930U's wifi receiver sensitivity is exactly the same as that on the other devices. So the hardware is obviously fine. It can't be anything but the OS firmware in my view.
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I haven't experienced this WiFi problem but like you said, those with strong connections won't notice. I also run the G930U fw on a G930P variant which may factor in.
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It's possible I suppose. I'd like to test things the other way around (930P fw on 930U hardware). And I'm seriously thinking of doing just that. If I'm right, the 930P fw should cure the reduced wifi reception issue, much like the Wifi Connect app has done.
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Both power saving mode and ultra power saving mode are and have been off all along. Per app power saving is on for a number of apps, but that only kicks in on apps that haven't been used in a couple of days (as I understand it). And the built-in wifi provision isn't an app anyway... it's a component of the OS. With the Wifi Connect app loaded, the 930U's wifi receiver sensitivity is exactly the same as that on the other devices. So the hardware is obviously fine. It can't be anything but the OS firmware in my view.
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Ok. I can't really test it since as I said my wifi is strong. When I look at the wifi scan of my neighbors networks I don't see a big difference compared to my previous Galaxy S4, although it's boxed up for shipment so i can't do a side-by-side like you are. Also, the Wifi Analyzer app looks very much like the signal strengths I saw on the S4, but that might be similar to Wifi Connect. Can only hope Samsung is working diligently on a big release to fix the SW issues. I can dream...
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Also, the Wifi Analyzer app looks very much like the signal strengths I saw on the S4, but that might be similar to Wifi Connect.
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That would be my guess. Maybe it has something to do with the point at which these 3rd party apps hook in for the signal source. Perhaps the OS wifi receiver software takes the signal from a different location. That's all just blind theory on my part, though.
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Can only hope Samsung is working diligently on a big release to fix the SW issues. I can dream...
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Me too.
Got a response back from Samsung Support claiming that the S7 doesn't have a FM radio built-in. ?????
So, I emailed them a link to Youtube video of a guy actually doing the T-Mobile SW update and then playing the FM radio on his S7. We'll see what their excuse is now.
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Got a response back from Samsung Support claiming that the S7 doesn't have a FM radio built-in. ?????
So, I emailed them a link to Youtube video of a guy actually doing the T-Mobile SW update and then playing the FM radio on his S7. We'll see what they're excuse is now.
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Did they mean the S7 in general? Did they mean even the carrier-specific S7's? If that's what they told you, I can attest to the fact that they have given you entirely false information! I have recently been in possession of two SM-G930P's (i.e., the Sprint variant of the S7) which each received local FM broadcast stations (through the headphone wire as an antenna) via the NextRadio app. And they both did so flawlessly!
Beyond that, I've personally spoken (a number of times, actually) with Samsung 2nd tier tech support about this very issue. Each time I have been assured that the SM-G930U as well has a functional FM receiver chip onboard. It merely requires the API interface in its firmware to enable said chip. The only model that may not have the FM chip is the SM-G930A (i.e., the exynos powered unlocked international variant). And that would likely be because it's illegal in certain countries where the 930F is marketed to receive radio signals within the 88 to 108 MHz frequency band. That's not a broadcast band in all parts of the world (as it is within the US and some other places) so in some areas it may thus be used instead for government communications or other radio services that the local governments there want to keep off limits. If Samsung wants to sell phones in those areas, it may be easier for them to make those phones incapable of reception on that frequency band. So the 930F may be out of luck as far as hearing FM broadcast stations with its hardware. As far as I know, this hasn't been absolutely confirmed, though.
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Did they mean the S7 in general? Did they mean even the carrier-specific S7's? If that's what they told you, I can attest to the fact that they have given you entirely false information! I have recently been in possession of two SM-G930P's (i.e., the Sprint variant of the S7) which each received local FM broadcast stations (through the headphone wire as an antenna) via the NextRadio app. And they both did so flawlessly!
Beyond that, I've personally spoken (a number of times, actually) with Samsung 2nd tier tech support about this very issue. Each time I have been assured that the SM-G930U as well has a functional FM receiver chip onboard. It merely requires the API interface in its firmware to enable said chip.
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Here's the section of the email I got back:
"I have checked the user manual and our available resources and I found that none of our latest phones including unlocked (SM-G930U) phones have a built-in FM radio chip.
So, when there is no built –in FM radio chip embedded inside the phone the software update will not make any effect. "
So, they're clueless.
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Here's the section of the email I got back:
"I have checked the user manual and our available resources and I found that none of our latest phones including unlocked (SM-G930U) phones have a built-in FM radio chip.
So, when there is no built –in FM radio chip embedded inside the phone the software update will not make any effect. "
So, they're clueless.
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Yep. I'd say that's a pretty clueless statement. He/she "checked the user manual" *smirk* ... Since Samsung is not yet marketing the FM radio capability as a feature, naturally it's not going to be referenced in the user manual.
One of the Samsung techs explained to me that their newest mobile devices sold in the US do contain an onboard FM chip in compliance with a directive issued by the FCC. He explained that the FCC did not issue said directive so phone users would have FM broadcast audio reception capability. He said that instead the directive was issued so all new phones would be able to receive the EAS (Emergency Alert System) disaster and local emergency bulletins that are issued by the regional government emergency departments and sent out via local FM broadcast stations over the 88-108 MHz FM broadcast band to mobile devices within their coverage areas. I believe those are the little alerts with the exclamation point within a triangle that contain warning/threat/environmental alert information. He said that the phones would not be able to receive those alerts when cellular networks are down or overwhelmed if they did not contain functional FM receiver chips. Again, he said that all of Samsung's newest US-targeted phones have potentially operative FM receiver chips for this reason. While I can't confirm that his explanation is absolutely accurate, at least it sounds reasonable.
Late Update:
Just wanted to update this thread to assure anyone who may stumble upon it that the G930U (US unlocked S7 variant) absolutely does have a functional FM chip onboard. I flashed G930P firmware onto my most recent U and the NextRadio app took right off receiving local over-the-air FM stations. However, it's a shame you have to use carrier firmware to get it to work.
I've since swapped off that last 930U for another 930P, mainly because the U (like my 2 previous U's) had a wifi sensitivity issue... which is a rather huge thing for me. I still may try yet one more U though - in case the wifi issue was simply a very unlikely coincidence on the 3 U handsets I've already tested. I kind of doubt that's the case, though, which is why I haven't fully decided to try another U.
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Late Update:
Just wanted to update this thread to assure anyone who may stumble upon it that the G930U (US unlocked S7 variant) absolutely does have a functional FM chip onboard. I flashed G930P firmware onto my most recent U and the NextRadio app took right off receiving local over-the-air FM stations. However, it's a shame you have to use carrier firmware to get it to work.
I've since swapped off that last 930U for another 930P, mainly because the U (like my 2 previous U's) had a wifi sensitivity issue... which is a rather huge thing for me. I still may try yet one more U though - in case the wifi issue was simply a very unlikely coincidence on the 3 U handsets I've already tested. I kind of doubt that's the case, though, which is why I haven't fully decided to try another U.
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Have been very happy with my 930U on T-Mo for the last month and besides the FM disappointment, I have had zero issues. What was the case with your wifi?
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Have been very happy with my 930U on T-Mo for the last month and besides the FM disappointment, I have had zero issues. What was the case with your wifi?
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Concerning the FM radio: Since the U does have a functional FM chip, Samsung need only enable it with a future update to resolve the matter. We just can't know whether that will happen anytime soon (if ever).
The wifi sensitivity issue is that each U model I've tested seemed to suffer from a double-faceted problem. I noticed the issue in particular since I regularly use my phones at a few locations where the wifi signals I need to connect with are below moderate strength levels. The first part of the problem is that all S7's seem to mask wifi signals that are less than -85 dBm (i.e., these weaker signals won't be reported by the OS wifi software during scan mode). My guess is that this may be because the developers consider signals below the -85 dBm threshold to be virtually unusable, so to display such unusable signals would serve no practical purpose in their view. The second part of the problem is that on the U's -at least on the ones I've tested- the wifi receiver sensitivity is noticeably lower than that on the P and F models I've tested. So this brings the detectable wifi signals that are barely above -85 dBm on the P and F models to a point below -85 dBm on the U models, which not only makes them unusable, but causes them to go unreported during scanning as well. Therefore, since you can't see any wifi node signals below -85 dBm on any S7, the signals that are above -85 dBm and thus barely usable on the P and F models are not able to even be detected on the U models because of its lower wifi sensitivity. It's as if the weaker wifi nodes in an area don't exist when using a U model.
I should note that 3rd party wifi apps will not mask the weaker wifi signals. You can see them all, regardless of strength. This proves that the OS threshold masking is in place. I will admit that if masking of the weaker wifi node signals were not in place, the signals below -85 dBm would undoubtedly be too weak to connect with. But the lower wifi sensitivity on the U model tends to compound this problem. So it really comes down to the fact that the U models I've tried in fact contained noticeably weaker wifi receivers for some reason (perhaps an antenna or other component difference). If the wifi signals you will be using are of moderate signal strength or greater, you shouldn't have any issues with the U model. And in my case it still may have been an unlikely coincidence... the three U's that I tested may not have been typical as far as U model wifi performance. I have no way to be sure one way or the other.
Well lookie here:
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/01/verizon-galaxy-s7-edge-radio-update/
Maybe there's hope for some of us!
asuh said:
Well lookie here:
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/01/verizon-galaxy-s7-edge-radio-update/
Maybe there's hope for some of us!
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Everyone with a G930U should contact Samsung, mention this info, and ask when our S7s will have the FM radio enabled.
hello dear friends i have a g930u i updated it to android N then i installed next radio, it is working perfectly . by the way i dont live in USA i am in algeria :good:
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I had a longer, more detailed post, then accidentally refreshed the page... :good:
Bottom line was my S6 has reverted to 3G a few times over the weekend in places where it shouldn't. I've owned all the VoLTE devices on Verizon so far, and none of them did this. Data is also very slow at times. It could be a fluke - maybe VZW was tweaking some stuff locally over the weekend. But it feels eerily similar to when LTE was first introduced back in 2011 and so many of those early LTE devices had problems managing LTE and 3G.
That combined with the, so far, completely inconsistent battery life with cell standby issues has me a bit concerned. I love this phone overall - it feels like the total package. I hope this (and battery) isn't its one glaring weakness.
I'm just curious what other Verizon users' experience has been so far.
Same here
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I had a longer, more detailed post, then accidentally refreshed the page... :good:
Bottom line was my S6 has reverted to 3G a few times over the weekend in places where it shouldn't. I've owned all the VoLTE devices on Verizon so far, and none of them did this. Data is also very slow at times. It could be a fluke - maybe VZW was tweaking some stuff locally over the weekend. But it feels eerily similar to when LTE was first introduced back in 2011 and so many of those early LTE devices had problems managing LTE and 3G.
That combined with the, so far, completely inconsistent battery life with cell standby issues has me a bit concerned. I love this phone overall - it feels like the total package. I hope this (and battery) isn't its one glaring weakness.
I'm just curious what other Verizon users' experience has been so far.
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I noticed the same thing a few times on my VZW S6 Edge. A web page would load super slow or it would be on 3g, when my note 4 never had this issue. Part of it could be the fact that Samsung went from using qualcomm chips for the radios to in house chips. Qualcomm has been making and updating radio chips for practically every Mfgs phones for years. I'm thinking samsung just doesnt have the experience that Qualcomm does. Hopefully its just a matter of a firmware update.
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I noticed the same thing a few times on my VZW S6 Edge. A web page would load super slow or it would be on 3g, when my note 4 never had this issue. Part of it could be the fact that Samsung went from using qualcomm chips for the radios to in house chips. Qualcomm has been making and updating radio chips for practically every Mfgs phones for years. I'm thinking samsung just doesnt have the experience that Qualcomm does. Hopefully its just a matter of a firmware update.
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The VZW and SPRINT versions actually have QCOM modem chips as opposed to their own Shannon modem. The Antenna configuration and other parts are completely different from other phones or previous Samsung phones.
my 2 cents
equake said:
The VZW and SPRINT versions actually have QCOM modem chips as opposed to their own Shannon modem. The Antenna configuration and other parts are completely different from other phones or previous Samsung phones.
my 2 cents
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Ahh, thanks for clarifying. I read that they used their own chips instead of QCOM. Guess the CDMA variants are different. I assumed that could be part of the problem.
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Ahh, thanks for clarifying. I read that they used their own chips instead of QCOM. Guess the CDMA variants are different. I assumed that could be part of the problem.
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Every model is somewhat different. My S4 gets decent LTE reception while my wife's S5 switches to 3G in the same place. It's also the the S/W on the phone. The Lollipop update on the phones have been lowering the connection quality in my opinion. The S5 had better reception when on 4.4.x
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I also noticed this. At home, I have fair LTE connectivity usually around -105 to -115dBm, and on my previous G3 I always remained connected to LTE. Now on the S6, I have similar signal levels but it often drops to 3G or even 1x.
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I also noticed this. At home, I have fair LTE connectivity usually around -105 to -115dBm, and on my previous G3 I always remained connected to LTE. Now on the S6, I have similar signal levels but it often drops to 3G or even 1x.
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Yes, this exactly. My signal level is "normal", but it's switching to 3G. That makes me think it's a software tweak, which is good I guess. But I still hate the similar feeling to 2011...
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I had a longer, more detailed post, then accidentally refreshed the page... :good:
Bottom line was my S6 has reverted to 3G a few times over the weekend in places where it shouldn't. I've owned all the VoLTE devices on Verizon so far, and none of them did this. Data is also very slow at times. It could be a fluke - maybe VZW was tweaking some stuff locally over the weekend. But it feels eerily similar to when LTE was first introduced back in 2011 and so many of those early LTE devices had problems managing LTE and 3G.
That combined with the, so far, completely inconsistent battery life with cell standby issues has me a bit concerned. I love this phone overall - it feels like the total package. I hope this (and battery) isn't its one glaring weakness.
I'm just curious what other Verizon users' experience has been so far.
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I am having the same experience. Areas that were very strong 4G LTE on both my S4, S5 and even an iPhone 6 are switching to 3G. This is very disheartening to me and hope very much so its a software tweak and not because of a larger hardware issue.
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I am having the same experience. Areas that were very strong 4G LTE on both my S4, S5 and even an iPhone 6 are switching to 3G. This is very disheartening to me and hope very much so its a software tweak and not because of a larger hardware issue.
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I know in the past, the hand-off to 3G too "early" was typically software related... but if the radio is weak (which I'm not convinced is the issue), software tweaks might only go so far.
Mine goes from LTE to 1x. Don't even see 3G. Lol
So just now I'm driving home and talking with my wife like I do every day of the week through the exact same area. On previous devices the LTE signal was weaker through this area (normally 2 bars depending on the phone), but I've never had any problems. Today, with the S6, my wife kept complaining that I was cutting out a lot. I looked down and had that first little dot of a bar and that's it. Within a minute or so the call completely dropped. I'm always frustrated with Verizon's handling of VoLTE, but this doesn't help the case for the S6 either.
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Mine goes from LTE to 1x. Don't even see 3G. Lol
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I assume that's not normal behavior?
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I assume that's not normal behavior?
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I wouldn't think so, but who knows.
I to have noticed my S6 on 3G a lot, I have dropped about 4 calls today to..That is not normal, together with the poor battery life I'm thinking this sucker is probably going back.
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I to have noticed my S6 on 3G a lot, I have dropped about 4 calls today to..That is not normal, together with the poor battery life I'm getting this sucker is probably going back.
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So frustrating b/c it's such a great device otherwise. I'm still hopeful, though...
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So frustrating b/c it's such a great device otherwise. I'm still hopeful, though...
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Love the size, feel and screen. Another thing that happens is it will power off overnight while charging... How's that going to work if I depend on it for alarms?
Again this morning... dropped to 3G twice - once on my way to work (dropped call) and for about 15 minutes in my office. Both places that, historically, have never had any issues (edit: though they are places where LTE isn't the strongest - but never have I dropped to 3G). It's only a problem about 10% of the time, but it's a frustrating 10%, and a 10% I haven't had to deal with in a LONG time.
I have a friend who works for Samsung mobile US. From what he is telling me they are aware of the issue and are already planning a software release. It's noted in the bug fixes as "Radio Attenuation" It's already with Verizon for testing and approval, but doesn't have a firm release date because we all know how Verizon is with software releases.
He actually said this is due to the shorting testing period with vzw this launch.
So here is hoping this is resolved via a software update and not a longer standing hardware issue.
Quick question, is the S6 single antenna?
I'm guessing the S6 Edge is like the other Edge. Screen takes away an antenna.
This is disgusting from my point of view. From the exact same spot I generally pull between 18Mbs to 20Mbs... religiously for over a year on an S5 OR S4.
Why in the he'll is it so hard to get a phone right? They did everything else right with this phone and launch and now we have take. 2 generations steps backwards with the radios.
I've noticed a strange behavior with my T-Mobile V20. It really likes to drop service and then show a loading symbol for a bit before locking onto a signal again.
Usually the current reception is weak (1 bar), but not always. Sometimes it does it when I have 2-3 bars of LTE, just to switch down to 5 bars 2G.
There are also times when it'll show that I have 3-4 bars of voice reception, but the status will say "Searching" and calls won't work. Rebooting will make LTE appear.
Is this normal behavior? I just got this phone, and it's also the phone I used to switch off Verizon. T-Mobile definitely has better coverage where I am, but that's only when it isn't dropping the signal.
I have the same issue with my LG V20 phone. The reception/signal strength is horrible. Callers constantly complain that my phone goes in an out, making it difficult to maintain a conversation. Bluetooth connectivity is also an issue as connecting the device requires multiple attempts. This phone is becoming useless due to the reception and Bluetooth connectivity issues. I will continue to use my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 as a backup. I have never experienced any such issues while using the Samsung device. Hopefully the developers at LG are taking notes and a fix/update will be released before 2017.
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I have the same issue with my LG V20 phone. The reception/signal strength is horrible. Callers constantly complain that my phone goes in an out, making it difficult to maintain a conversation. Bluetooth connectivity is also an issue as connecting the device requires multiple attempts. This phone is becoming useless due to the reception and Bluetooth connectivity issues. I will continue to use my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 as a backup. I have never experienced any such issues while using the Samsung device. Hopefully the developers at LG are taking notes and a fix/update will be released before 2017.
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I haven't had problems with Bluetooth; in fact, I've had the opposite; Bluetooth works nicely.
I hate to say it, but I haven't actually made a call on my phone yet, so I can't comment on that, but you seem to be having it much worse than I am.
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I have the same issue with my LG V20 phone. The reception/signal strength is horrible. Callers constantly complain that my phone goes in an out, making it difficult to maintain a conversation. Bluetooth connectivity is also an issue as connecting the device requires multiple attempts. This phone is becoming useless due to the reception and Bluetooth connectivity issues. I will continue to use my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 as a backup. I have never experienced any such issues while using the Samsung device. Hopefully the developers at LG are taking notes and a fix/update will be released before 2017.
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What kind of case are you using? It sounds like you have something blocking the signal (your case), you have multiple, defective radios in your device, or something -- in the area within which you operate your phone -- is interfering with the signal. I am not experiencing those issues at all, and neither is my wife (we're both using US996).
Good luck in any case. Your phone not working correctly is a horrible experience.
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What kind of case are you using? It sounds like you have something blocking the signal (your case), you have multiple, defective radios in your device, or something -- in the area within which you operate your phone -- is interfering with the signal. I am not experiencing those issues at all, and neither is my wife (we're both using US996).
Good luck in any case. Your phone not working correctly is a horrible experience.
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Which carrier are you on?
I haven't had any problems with dropped calls. Then again, I'm usually somewhere near wifi and make most of my calls that way.
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I haven't had any problems with dropped calls. Then again, I'm usually somewhere near wifi and make most of my calls that way.
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I remember you... Howdy
Zacharee1 said:
I remember you... Howdy
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Who's doing Note 4 customer service now that you and I aren't there anymore?
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Who's doing Note 4 customer service now that you and I aren't there anymore?
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Well now that CM14.1 is for all Snapdragon variants, we've got some new helpers.
So I've figured out at least one of the signal oddities. I'm going from one bar on LTE on T-Mobile to roaming on AT&T. I was able to use the app LTE Discovery to see that I was on AT&T's LTE B17 (which isn't even listed as supported on the H918). The phone was just disabling voice and data.
My cell reception seems normal for tmobile(which is mostly not good in my area) but the weird thing is on bluetooth. When i bend down at work with my phone in my pocket the BT signal get choppy. Like im compressing the antenna or something. Weird.
Bubba Fett said:
My cell reception seems normal for tmobile(which is mostly not good in my area) but the weird thing is on bluetooth. When i bend down at work with my phone in my pocket the BT signal get choppy. Like im compressing the antenna or something. Weird.
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You could take a look at the FCC test for BT https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...on_id=Yart0xj3tUt4f53nf7wvbQ==&fcc_id=ZNFH918
I found out that this phone is rated for LTE B13 from there. Looks like it supports a lot more bands than LG or T-Mobile say, since even the FCC doesn't include B17.
I just picked up a T-Mobile S7 to play around with and, as you all know, the G930T on T-Mobile USA has FM radio enabled.
However I've noticed that the radio reception is absolutely horrible with a lot of static, crosstalk from other stations, and dropouts. I tried two other FM-supporting phones that I have (Verizon Moto G and unlocked Xperia Z5 compact) and they're both clear as day with no issues. Note that this is in the same location, with same headphones, and same station... just a different phone.
Does anyone know of any fixes for this? Is it a chipset issue, build issue, software issue?
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I just picked up a T-Mobile S7 to play around with and, as you all know, the G930T on T-Mobile USA has FM radio enabled.
However I've noticed that the radio reception is absolutely horrible with a lot of static, crosstalk from other stations, and dropouts. I tried two other FM-supporting phones that I have (Verizon Moto G and unlocked Xperia Z5 compact) and they're both clear as day with no issues. Note that this is in the same location, with same headphones, and same station... just a different phone.
Does anyone know of any fixes for this? Is it a chipset issue, build issue, software issue?
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It could be anything from a faulty component -such as a bad rf amplifier circuit- to an implemented chip/circuitry revision, to a change in component suppliers. If you just purchased the S7 and are under warranty I would exchange it for another one to see if the FM broadcast receiver sensitivity is better. I know there was a big problem with the FM receiver sensitivity on the 930U model devices. I went through several of those and they all demonstrated the kind of horrible reception that you've described. Whereas each of the 930Ps and 935Ps (Sprint model) I've used have demonstrated wonderful FM reception.
As the title says, I've tried almost every provider in my City. The signal strength is aweful compared to other phones in the same vicinity. Even the 4G speeds are really slow.
I've compared the speed and signal strength using the same sim card on different phones...my Nexus 6 and OP5T.
I know you need to sacrifice something when you buy a budget product, but sacrificing on network quality is something that is unacceptable by any standard.
Agreed! Very poor network reception in Redmi note 5 pro
From bangalore, had no issues whatsoever (using airtel atm). Maybe it varies device to device? Which it shouldnt anyway... Hopefully its a software issue
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As the title says, I've tried almost every provider in my City. The signal strength is aweful compared to other phones in the same vicinity. Even the 4G speeds are really slow.
I've compared the speed and signal strength using the same sim card on different phones...my Nexus 6 and OP5T.
I know you need to sacrifice something when you buy a budget product, but sacrificing on network quality is something that is unacceptable by any standard.
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I don't know whether this will help you or nor but I figured out following step and that certainly fixed my low 4g speed issue on my phone, I was getting no more than 200-300 kbps regardless of place or time. I searched a lot and came across many nonsense fixes but they plainly just don't work.
In APN settings remove all APNS and and make new one, name it whatever you want and in "APN" write "jionet" and save. Don't write or change any other settings.
Regarding network, I haven't noticed or experienced any issue.
I have the same -90 dbm at/near my bedroom with my Note 5 Pro and Moto X4 and it occasionally dips in and out but when in voice calls it is stable.
I assume some units are faulty cause mine isn't having these kinds of trouble. Maybe another software update should make the fix
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As the title says, I've tried almost every provider in my City. The signal strength is aweful compared to other phones in the same vicinity. Even the 4G speeds are really slow.
I've compared the speed and signal strength using the same sim card on different phones...my Nexus 6 and OP5T.
I know you need to sacrifice something when you buy a budget product, but sacrificing on network quality is something that is unacceptable by any standard.
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I had this issue also, i fixed the issue of the network speeds as i did the same types of tests. Phone reception in general might be improved using different baseband versions, modem files as they effect the internet speed your battery life and phone reception. This is a link to the post where i provided what i did for this.
There's lots of posts on the internet about it, and all sorts of suggestions just lucky i decided to try it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/help/slow-4g-speeds-connectivity-issues-t3849804
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I had this issue also, i fixed the issue of the network speeds as i did the same types of tests. Phone reception in general might be improved using different baseband versions, modem files as they effect the internet speed your battery life and phone reception. This is a link to the post where i provided what i did for this.
There's lots of posts on the internet about it, and all sorts of suggestions just lucky i decided to try it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/help/slow-4g-speeds-connectivity-issues-t3849804
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What should I or any customer jump through hoops for a basic function of a phone...which is making calls!!! There is always a price to pay and with cheap Chinese phones like Xiaomi.
OnePlus is a Chinese company too, and they have made compromises in areas that can be compromised as far as a phone is concerned. This obsession with having the fastest processor and phone at the cost of call and signal quality is beyond comprehension.
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What should I or any customer jump through hoops for a basic function of a phone...which is making calls!!! There is always a price to pay and with cheap Chinese phones like Xiaomi.
OnePlus is a Chinese company too, and they have made compromises in areas that can be compromised as far as a phone is concerned. This obsession with having the fastest processor and phone at the cost of call and signal quality is beyond comprehension.
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No customer should have to jump through hoops, that's a choice. You buy it find it doesn't work to your expectations you sell it. Or you decide to do what i did and work around it all choice. Tho i do believe it's ridiculous situation all the same. There's not many other 18:9 phones with 636 and 4000mah dual sim phones for Australia that match what i want.
I did find this explanation of phones modems or the baseband. There the same thing control reception strength, 4G, 3G speed, battery drain.
With radio firmwares beware of upgrading them without having seen a test of the version on your network.
Sometimes new radio firmwares add features for some network providers that result in worse bandwidth, disconnections and other disagreement if you use them on another network. Network operators don't provide phones with such broken firmwares (they wait for the next version or just provide the same radio firmware forever) but if you install them yourself it's a risk you take.
Radio firmware is the modem, so companys like Samsung or phones sold from Carriers probably test the modem properly works for most networks, and doesn't update them constantly or makes sure they work. With Xiaomi there not in Australia so don't no if other Chinese phones from overseas end up working without network issues because they don't test it in Australia other Xiaomi phones have this issue also but not all do.
I did buy an Oppo Find 7 years ago and that had baseband, modem issues also i couldn't even get clear reception inside my house for a basic phone call something a 50 dollar phone would of done right, i had to go outside to talk, lots of people online had same issue no modem fixed it, i got rid of it in the end. Waste of money.
Just taking normal OTA updates from Xiaomi while using MIUI will update the modem, baseband radio firmware file, automatically for you on custom roms you do it yourself, if you see how that guy suggests not to update it as new ones can introduce problems, well with a company like xiaomi that isn't sticking with one modem that's tested and functional and constantly updating it. Good luck with that just seems these chinese companys aren't following a process other companies use. The modem is just software updates but it's like a driver so video card and graphics driver for example, so i don't think it's a hardware issue so much as a software problem.
Hello, i finally bought a ROG Phone ZS673KS WW from a big electronic store franchise in my country, and the phone is working like a charm, but since the first moments i booted it up, i noticed that the 4G connection works really slow.
I did some tests in places I know for sure that got good band coverage (like at home and at my workplace) using the ROG Phone, my latest phone (a OnePlus 6) and another old smartphone i had laying around at home, and i saw that all the smartphones connect to the same band, and get the same coverage, but the ROG Phone get the download speed decimated for whatever reason (literally, it gets barely 10mbps while the other 2 phones get 100-120mbps).
Online i couldn't find any solution about that beside the suggestion to try and swap the SIM slot, but that didn't help, same results.
What can I do to solve that deal breaking problem?
Thanks in advance for the help, have a nice weekend everyone!!
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Hello, i finally bought a ROG Phone ZS673KS WW from a big electronic store franchise in my country, and the phone is working like a charm, but since the first moments i booted it up, i noticed that the 4G connection works really slow.
I did some tests in places I know for sure that got good band coverage (like at home and at my workplace) using the ROG Phone, my latest phone (a OnePlus 6) and another old smartphone i had laying around at home, and i saw that all the smartphones connect to the same band, and get the same coverage, but the ROG Phone get the download speed decimated for whatever reason (literally, it gets barely 10mbps while the other 2 phones get 100-120mbps).
Online i couldn't find any solution about that beside the suggestion to try and swap the SIM slot, but that didn't help, same results.
What can I do to solve that deal breaking problem?
Thanks in advance for the help, have a nice weekend everyone!!
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Have you installed the Sim card, then turn off the phone for 1 minute then turn it back on?
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Have you installed the Sim card, then turn off the phone for 1 minute then turn it back on?
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Yeah, tried also that with no results
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Yeah, tried also that with no results
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what happens if you turn off 5G? Unless 5g is already disabled.
I'll look at more info on the hardware specs for the different phones you have. I am not sure if they cheaped out on the antenna or not for the ROG 5 phone or not.
I know if you cover the antenna it messes up the signal.
It could also be the mode you phone is on. If your phone is set to save battery, it might not be using as much power through the antenna. Try messing with the setting and checking to see if any setting or hand placements actually affect the signal strength and data capability of your phone.
I did some test and I think it has to do with how the phone determines which data connection to use, so it is most likely a software issue rather than a hardware one. It does not use the actual fastest connection but rather it uses the highest level of connection.
Ex. If 5g is available even though it is slower, it will choose to run on 5g. If 4g is the highest connection you have, it will attempt to run on 4g. I ran my phone on 3/ 2G and had faster connections than with 4g or 5g.
It could also be based on signal strength rather than signal level. That being said, if the 4g or 5g connection is over crowded by users, using 3g/2g will be faster and more reliable than using 4g or 5g, but due to the signal strength being so high makes the phone chose the slower 4g/5g connection.
Since the volume of phones they create aren't as large as many other companies, I have a feeling they did not put much effort into this area of the phones software as other, more commonly used brands have.
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I did some test and I think it has to do with how the phone determines which data connection to use, so it is most likely a software issue rather than a hardware one. It does not use the actual fastest connection but rather it uses the highest level of connection.
Ex. If 5g is available even though it is slower, it will choose to run on 5g. If 4g is the highest connection you have, it will attempt to run on 4g. I ran my phone on 3/ 2G and had faster connections than with 4g or 5g.
It could also be based on signal strength rather than signal level. That being said, if the 4g or 5g connection is over crowded by users, using 3g/2g will be faster and more reliable than using 4g or 5g, but due to the signal strength being so high makes the phone chose the slower 4g/5g connection.
Since the volume of phones they create aren't as large as many other companies, I have a feeling they did not put much effort into this area of the phones software as other, more commonly used brands have.
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Yeah, tried disabling 5G (since where I live 5G doesn't exist yet) and that didn't change anything. Mmmmh if it's a software problem, sounds like something that could be potentially solved, but how this, if i tested it, and different phones connect to the same 4G band, and give a different result?
SottoSopra666 said:
Yeah, tried disabling 5G (since where I live 5G doesn't exist yet) and that didn't change anything. Mmmmh if it's a software problem, sounds like something that could be potentially solved, but how this, if i tested it, and different phones connect to the same 4G band, and give a different result?
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I assume that using a different phone using the same band and service indicates that either the antenna or the software is the issue.
It could be either the antenna or the software and I don't know a solution for either. It is possible if they did tune the software, they could potentially increase power to the antenna and increase it's output power at the cost of battery. I tried testing having my body close and far from the phone and it look like there wasn't much of a difference in signal strength.