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Qualcomm has received an order from big clients for a faster iteration of Snapdragon and, guess what? The Snapdragon 821 is born and its Kryo core frequency has jumped from a previous 2.15GHz to 2.4Ghz.
One of the design wins that got leaked a few weeks back is the LeEco LeMax 2 Pro with 8GB or RAM but we suspect that Qualcomm wanted to prepare this chip for the Samsung Galaxy Note S7, the biggest design win to come in the Android space.
Since the Snapdragon 820 with Kryo core clocked at 2.15GHz has been selling for two quarters, the company managed to do additional optimization and increased the clock by an impressive 250MHz getting it to a final 2.4Ghz. This is again a maximal processor clock and as you know this maximal clock will only occur occasionally when the SoC needs a lot of power. We can think of two possible scenarios where you will be able to max the Snapdragon 821, launching the application and some of the games.
Qualcomm has managed to get to 115 design wins with Snapdragon 820, but again since the Snapdragon 820 got so successful, some important clients wanted to get something a bit faster. The company claims a 10 percent performance increase in performance.
It is clear that Snapdragon 821 will not replace the Snapdragon 820. They will both co-exist as many vendors will not want to pay the premium.
The rest of the device including DSP, Snapdragon X12 LTE modem remain unchanged and we are waiting to hear back about the possible change of the maximal GPU clock. Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 is inside of the Samsung Galaxy S7, Galaxy S7 Edge , Xiaomi Mi5, LG G5, HTC 10, LeEco LeMax 2 and Sony Xperia X and at least 108 other less prominent phones.
Snapdragon 821 is expected in phones in the second half of 2016 and it won’t be reserved for smartphones only. You can expect to see Snapdragon 821 based tablets, mobile VR head mounted displays and other new devices. The last Galaxy Note 5 was launched in the middle of August, and that gives us the idea that the Galaxy Note 7 might not be far off either.
We can guess that IFA, that starts in the first days of September in Berlin German will be an interesting place and time for some additional Snapdragon 821 devices too.
Source: Chinareview.mobi
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Which is the overall better processor? I've heard that OMAP3430 is better for graphics because it has a dedicated GPU and snapdragon is better for overall snappyness. I've debating between the Motorola Droid or waiting out for the HTC Passion. I'm more interested in video playback and browsing speeds so which of these processors would be better for those?
Passion has only been rumored to be out, its not actually out, and no specs have been out for it.
I have seen some Android 2.0 ROMS with OMAP 3430 running at 1 GHZ, I have seen some running at 600 Mhz, so its hard to say for sure what will be out,
But I would say do not go with what the rumors tell you, until you can verify everything with 1-2 sources, with the exact same details.
Once you can do that then believe it, but at this time, i have only seen one story about Passion.
I have seen stuff about HTC Dragon that says 1 Ghz Snapdragon, but looking inside a Dragon ROM, and its filled with OMAP reference to everything (1500 OMAP reference, and 5 Qualcomm Reference) So what does that mean, its been rumored for SnapDragon, but I tend to think otherwise.
Just for the record snapdragon too has dedicated GPU - AMD z430(now rebranded adreno 200) and their performance is similar.
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Just for the record snapdragon too has dedicated GPU - AMD z430(now rebranded adreno 200) and their performance is similar.
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yup, in Barcelona, back in February, I've played Price of persia running at WVGA on the Toshi TG01 (1 GHz Snapdragon) pretty much - the 3D performance was pretty good. also see my dedicated article & video.
interesting, so it seems the snapdragon is in another league... i had no idea it had a dedicated GPU.
65nm ARM Cortex A8-based internals
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/27/iphone-3gs-bested-by-android-archos-5-tablet-in-browsing-benchma/
looking forward for PXA168 marvell, till now there isnt any pda with it
intel technology with Xscale driver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW-zznc3ALk
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Which is the overall better processor? I've heard that OMAP3430 is better for graphics because it has a dedicated GPU and snapdragon is better for overall snappyness. I've debating between the Motorola Droid or waiting out for the HTC Passion. I'm more interested in video playback and browsing speeds so which of these processors would be better for those?
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Your assessment of which is faster is true. The GPU on the OMAP is a PowerVR SGX which performs better than the Snapdragon GPU which is an AMD Z430. I hope someone else can provide more details on what exactly that means for running applications like the new google navigator.
With screen of 800x480 or above, a fast GPU is a must. With all those graphic applications (games, video, GPS maps, etc), a phone will need high speed graphics. One does not need a number crunching CPU on phone. The phone/processor which has better and faster graphic processor will win.
2D graphics operations aren't hardware-accelerated (in WinMo, at least).
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/qualcomm_roadmap_reveals_25ghz_snapdragon_processors
You know what really sucks about being locked into a two-year service contract with your wireless carrier? It's seeing all these new fangled smartphones come out, ones with features that weren't available when you jumped in. Bought a Motorola Droid X2? That's great, now the Droid Bionic is here, and it supports 4G LTE. Rocking a dual-core 1.2GHz processor? Awesome, except that tomorrow's phones will kick things up to 2.5GHz and four cores!
That's the top clockspeed Qualcomm's latest roadmap shows, according to Pocket-Lint, which was on hand at the chip maker's Innovation Qualcomm event in Istanbul. Qualcomm's roadmap was broken down into four sections, including an S1 class for mass market smartphones, S2 class for high performance smartphones and tablets, an S3 class for multi-tasking and advanced gaming, and an S4 class for 'Holy *&#%!' performance and next generation devices.
The new S4 class chipset includes a next generation processor line built on a 28nm manufacturing process. These will include up to quad-core processing clocked at 2.5GHz along with a high performance Adreno GPU (dual- and quad-core), 1080p HD, 3G, and LTE.
So how long do you have to wait for this crazy fast mobile processors to make it to market? Not all that long, actually. Qualcomm expects to have these chips in device makers' hands by the end of the year, so you should see 2.5GHz smartphones and tablets in early 2012. Battery life? We'll have to wait and see.
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Damn and I thought 1.2 was fast!
Drool! Mmmmmmm 3 of my 5 upgrades are now on an indefinite hold! Its great having the account in my name!
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Your last line is key. We are making leaps and bounds in data speeds, processors, larger screens, etc. Yet, more needs to be done in terms of battery development. Battery life just can't keep up with all of this advancement in the other areas.
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Your last line is key. We are making leaps and bounds in data speeds, processors, larger screens, etc. Yet, more needs to be done in terms of battery development. Battery life just can't keep up with all of this advancement in the other areas.
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Next advancement in Battery Life will be Nuclear Powered Batterys .. Or whatever those things were in the Toy Soldiers
According to recent reports, we may see two Nexus devices this year , one made from Huawei and another one from LG. It looks like one of the Nexus devices just made an entry in the AnTuTu benchmarking site, blowing everyone’s mind with a score of more than 85000!
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If you remember, the Samsung Exynos 7420 chipset is currently on top of AnTuTu with 65000+ points. However, with a score of over 85,000 this Nexus device beats Samsung’s chip by over 20,000 points.
This brings us to the big question, what exactly is running inside this Nexus device? Well, AntuTu 5 doesn’t reveal much about the specs inside the device, but the phone probably will come with the new Snapdragon 820 chip from Qualcomm. While the score is still too good to be true, considering Qualcomm’s desperate need for a comeback with 820, the company could have boosted its performance to a whole new level.
What we do know is that the phone will be called as the Nexus 5 (2015) model , which probably means that LG is not sticking with the incremental naming policy. Also, this may also give us a clue about the screen size, as you can expect it to be around 5-inches (5.2-inch would be just perfect). The Nexus 6 came with a monstrous 5.9-inch display, but it was too big to handle. So, this could actually be a good move. The resolution is surprisingly just FHD, which would be a downgrade from the QHD display on the Nexus 6.
Anyways, if the performance of Snapdragon 820 is really this good, we would like to know whether it overheats like the current generation 810. But we hope Qualcomm will have learnt its lesson by now.
Usually, Google announces its Nexus devices in fourth quarter of the year and we expect the company to continue the tradition this year too. By then, there could be a couple of Snapdragon 820 powered smartphones like Xiaomi Mi5 in the market. So, things could get interesting pretty soon!
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Hi, Im going to upgrade to S7 Edge, here we got both available
Whichone is faster/better
What should I get, Im noob, so I rely on you guys.
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One web says Snap better http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Snapdragon-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
One says Exynos faster http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_exynos_8890_vs_snapdragon_820_speed_test-news-17429.php
Bit confusing
From what i've read:
SD820: Pro's: More support for ROMS, Adreno perfoms better than the Mali.
Exynos: Pro's: Better DAC (Wolfson), better batterylife, runs cooler.
Mine is Exynos. It is really cool. I used to have a xperia Z3 with snapdragon 801 which was very hot sometimes.
My s7, even in a heavy game, the phone does not get hot.
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S7 SD820
Pro: Better GPU performance
, Slightly better cpu single core performance than exynos. Better modem support for new technology such as LTE-U/LAA.
Con: worse optimisation than exynos, Less efficient = shorter battery life., Locked Bootloader = no root and custom rom(with an exception for Chinese S7.)
S7 Exynos 8890
Pro: Better optimisation and more efficient = faster day to day task like opening apps and more battery life., Unlocked Bootloader allow root and some custom rom. Better cpu multicore performance. Better DAC output quality.
Con: worse gpu performance compare to sd820.
Keep in mind that the different is little so it shouldn't affect real life usage much.
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Exynos is better in pretty much everything. The SD820 might have a more powerful gpu, but it cant dustain its peak performance for long, aside from the fact that the gpu in exynos can handle everything out there same as the adreno does. So really just do yourself a favor and get yhe exynos to experience the true power of powerful hardware with amazingly optimised software
I have Exynos S7 Edge, the first thing I noticed is how cold to the touch it normally is, even playing games doesn't warm it up much.. And the battery life, lasts for ages, easily two days with quite a bit of use, so very happy with it... The always on display for the time is actually quite nice, I don't look at my watch as much now
thanks, getting Exynos
The Adreno 418 inside the Snapdragon 808 (LG V10) is to graphically couple talking about the Adreno 510 Snapdragon 652 (LENOVO PHAB 2 PRO)
That is, much has been said that if this processor did not compete with the snapdragon 810 ... but we can see that the snapdragon 808 has much less throttling the snapdragon 810, which low frequency clock very fast ...
Currently the Snapdragon 808 we can classify as a processor SUPER MEDIA RANGE, like the. Snapdragon 650-652
I leave this interesting information
Finally, snapdragon 652 processor is faster cpu, since this has cores A72 A57 snapdragon vs 808, but graphics are on par, and almost reach the graph huawei mate 8
I hope you have served this information, and although the 808 is not a snapdragon 820, is undoubtedly a very good processor
A hug, and sorry for my english
ADRENO 418
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ADRENO 510
i cant belive 808 is almost 13000 lower than 810...i think is lower than that, i already have a 810 phone the G Flex2 and it overheat time to time but men, 810 is a faster much much faster than 808 in my V10.
652 is the new generation of 600 series so is for sure faster than 808, the 808 came only because the 810 overheat and to make 808 dont overheat Qualcomm cut 2 big cores and reduce the frequency of them.
if Qualcomm dont make the mistake they did with 810 i belive V10 could came with 810 inside and will be a monster, killing everything of other brands...they could do like Huawei do in 6P, put a revision 2.1 or newer of 810 but no, anyway V10 is a great overall phone, i dont regreat the change of G Flex2 to V10.