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[Solved] Update Bootloader to kkbl?

Hi, I'm actually on CM11 using the moto_msm8960_jbbl, because I haven't update my bootloader since I don't really understand how to do that. So I'm root, have an unlocked bootloader (with the bootloader unlocked warning when I power on my phone). I use a XT925 (RAZR HD from France)
I find threads like this (because I try to search a bit before asking ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-hd/help/cm11-jbl-vs-kkbl-t2923070
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760840
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-hd/help/xt925-updating-to-kk-fail-bootloader-t2929997
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
But I don't know what must I do to install rom based on the kkbl, like moto_msm9660 CM11 or Dirty Unicorn, which needs an updated bootloader.
Can you please enlighten me, or explain me ?
Thanks, and sorry for my bad english :angel:

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you need to bring your device to KK stock first. There are many ways like in the second thread you posted. Or even easier here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...tutorial-make-motorola-razr-hd-xt925-t2916465
Once you upgrade to KK then you can flash any custom kk rom you wish cause you will have kk bootloader.
Have fun mon ami

OK thanks
It will directly download the Stock version of Kitkat? Will I lost recovery and root access, or will I just be able to flash another rom like actually?

Wait a minute Champ there is no kk stock.
first you need to get back to 4.1.2 stock, rtfr

So I download the file from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032284
Code:
Branding: Vodafone France
Version: 9.8.2Q-8-XT925_VQU-27 FULL
Android Version: 4.1.2
Bootloader Version: N/A
Requires RSD Lite 6.0
So I use this to flash the thing from the previous link, then I use your link. And after it, I'm able to install KKBL-based roms, like Dirty Unicorns?

follow instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...tutorial-make-motorola-razr-hd-xt925-t2916465
and yes you will be able to get Unicorn and even some pop corn later

Hello again. I can't find a way to get root or install another recovery again.
I've try with this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2154995
It seems to doesn't work, now I can't boot in recovery, even on the ugly Motorola's recovery. What I've done wrong? How can I regain root access and flash ROMs? I've also try the Safestrap installer (apk) but it forceclose when I try to open the app.

stay away from those tools man, you dont need them. Just find twrp 7.1.0 and fllash it with fastboot or follow this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...orial-how-to-root-motorola-xt925-4-4-t2935574

My "problem" is solved, thanks a lot ! :good:

back to stock help

A customer brought his phone and he tried to flash on his own, he did not unlock the bootloader. I've tried to flash without unlocking the bootloader but have no luck getting back to stock. Since the phone will not boot into a usable menu I cannot unlock the bootloader. I have done a lot of research and cannot find a flawless way to do this. Is there anyone that has a direct way to fix this. Photos attached are when the phone is booted up normally, and in download mode. Thank you in advance.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ul1vw5dkkycpqeo/20150129_164414.jpg?dl=0:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/siy19wfk84l20my/20150129_164457.jpg?dl=0:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpxpj1efxkisd17/20150129_164717.jpg?dl=0:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mxnoergaz9ib1b3/20150129_164632.jpg?dl=0:

razor1 said:
A customer brought his phone and he tried to flash on his own, he did not unlock the bootloader. I've tried to flash without unlocking the bootloader but have no luck getting back to stock. Since the phone will not boot into a usable menu I cannot unlock the bootloader. I have done a lot of research and cannot find a flawless way to do this. Is there anyone that has a direct way to fix this. Photos attached are when the phone is booted up normally, and in download mode. Thank you in advance.
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Unfortunately, the bootloader cannot be unlocked on your customer's Verizon S3. Based on the Dropbox photos of Download mode, I'd wager that phone was on KitKat 4.4.2 VRUDNE1 before they attempted to modify it. That software comes with a locked bootloader that has not been unlocked. VRUDNE1 4.4.2 is the only software that can be flashed on the phone using Odin. Flash the VRUDNE1 tar in the PDA section of Odin and it *should* allow you to boot into the rom after it has flashed the firmware.
What have you and also the customer attempted to do to the phone?
Edit: I believe Odin 3.07 can be used, if not then you would need a newer version of Odin for Windows computers.

thank you very much, that got me back to stock at least. I appreciate the help! Next I need to wait for the 4.4.2 bootloader unlock if it ever comes out. Thanks again!

razor1 said:
thank you very much, that got me back to stock at least. I appreciate the help! Next I need to wait for the 4.4.2 bootloader unlock if it ever comes out. Thanks again!
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To be realistic, there won't be a bootloader unlock method on this phone any time soon. The phone has been bootloader locked since 2013 OTAs without an unlock tool found. The only thing you can do is use Safestrap which hijacks the boot process and allows the user to dual boot another VRUDNE1 4.4.2 TouchWiz rom. Our version of Safestrap requires the stock VRUDNE1 4.4.2 kernel in order to boot another VRUDNE1 rom. They also need to flash VRUDNE1 kernel modules in order to have working wifi as well. All the info you need can be found here in our sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
This means no AOSP roms, no custom kernels, no using roms on 4.3 or earlier, and as stated before no bootloader unlock.
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What is the most stable stock OS? Kitkat or Lollipop?

What is the most stable stock android version? Kitkat or Lollipop?
My phone is currently on NE9 and want to optimize my phone to be the best with what's out now, especially since development will be dwindling. It seems that Lollipop does not run too well (high battery usage?), according to what I see on the threads. Without any input, I would update to NK2 and then towelroot. However, would anyone recommend me updating to BOK3 or BPB1?

GoodLooks550 said:
What is the most stable stock android version? Kitkat or Lollipop?
My phone is currently on NE9 and want to optimize my phone to be the best with what's out now, especially since development will be dwindling. It seems that Lollipop does not run too well (high battery usage?), according to what I see on the threads. Without any input, I would update to NK2 and then towelroot. However, would anyone recommend me updating to BOK3 or BPB1?
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They're both stable, but we do see a lot of complaints about lollipop battery life.
Try it for yourself. Just stick with jrkruse's stock lollipop images that don't update the bootloader past BOD5, or any ROM that specifically does not update the bootloader. Then you can easily downgrade back to kitkat if you decide you don't like it.

painiac said:
They're both stable, but we do see a lot of complaints about lollipop battery life.
Try it for yourself. Just stick with jrkruse's stock lollipop images that don't update the bootloader past BOD5, or any ROM that specifically does not update the bootloader. Then you can easily downgrade back to kitkat if you decide you don't like it.
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Thanks, painiac! I used your guide to get up to date with the S5, btw--things are very different from what I remember in the S4 world.
Anyway, after rooting and installing safestrap, if i were to flash jrkruse’s BPB1 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029), I would install the rom, safestrap fix, patch (optional), and BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip. Anything else to add?
This set up would allow me to go back to kit kat by installing a jrkruse kit kat rom and related firmware w/o bootloader?

GoodLooks550 said:
Thanks, painiac! I used your guide to get up to date with the S5, btw--things are very different from what I remember in the S4 world.
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Glad I could be of service. I came here just a few months ago from an S3. Imagine my disgust and shock... That was actually the impetus for writing that guide, because there's so much to have to learn and I'd just finished researching the crap out of it all for myself in a short amount of time.
GoodLooks550 said:
Anyway, after rooting and installing safestrap, if i were to flash jrkruse’s BPB1 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029), I would install the rom, safestrap fix, patch (optional), and BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip. Anything else to add?
This set up would allow me to go back to kit kat by installing a jrkruse kit kat rom and related firmware w/o bootloader?
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Nothing else to add, I think you got it. That no bootloaders firmware file you selected is the important one.
jrkruse says you can still run kitkat ROMs even if you're stuck with Lollipop, but I haven't tried it yet. Staying with the BOD5 or earlier bootloader actually allows you to flash KitKat stock image files with Odin, which you cannot do without bricking if you've updated your bootloader to BOE1 or later. I like this because the KitKat root process is a lot less problematic than the new Lollipop root method; but more importantly, you can freely upgrade to Lollipop with BOD5 bootloader (modified) stock Odin images, and then you can freely downgrade with stock KitKat Odin images.

painiac said:
Glad I could be of service. I came here just a few months ago from an S3. Imagine my disgust and shock... That was actually the impetus for writing that guide, because there's so much to have to learn and I'd just finished researching the crap out of it all for myself in a short amount of time.
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I was lucky to have my an S4 MDK (unlocked bl), so things were much simpler back then--had an S3, as well. In the process of getting my S5 running the way I wanted, the use of safestrap was completely new to me. Thankfully, some heavy browsing of the forums got me through. I did not use flashfire, which would have been something else to learn!
painiac said:
Nothing else to add, I think you got it. That no bootloaders firmware file you selected is the important one.
jrkruse says you can still run kitkat ROMs even if you're stuck with Lollipop, but I haven't tried it yet. Staying with the BOD5 or earlier bootloader actually allows you to flash KitKat stock image files with Odin, which you cannot do without bricking if you've updated your bootloader to BOE1 or later. I like this because the KitKat root process is a lot less problematic than the new Lollipop root method; but more importantly, you can freely upgrade to Lollipop with BOD5 bootloader (modified) stock Odin images, and then you can freely downgrade with stock KitKat Odin images.
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Thank you--your replies and guide were gold in terms of figuring it all out.
For onlookers of this thread, once you get to lollipop, it's hard to go back to kitkat. A lot of the small details really add up to an improved user experience. Also, having an s7 edge, the PB1 build on the S5 has 90% of the same functionality of the S7e--excluding edge-related features, of course.
To summarize my upgrade experience:
Root from any kitkat rom: Flash the NCG kernel in odin (AP/PDA), reboot and root with towelroot apk, and then install and update supersu; and lastly re-flash the NE9 kernel.
Install Hashcode's version of Safestrap: Install busybox apk. Install safestrap apk (version 3.75). Make sure to use a microsd card for installation, as recommended.
Install PB1 rom: (source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029). Reboot into SS. Flash G900V_Fix Safestrap.zip. Reboot into SS. Flash:
VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9.zip,
Extra_toggles.zip (optional),
BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip , and
G900V_PB1_Stock_KERNEL_SafeStrap-Flashable.zip.
Flash all in a single queue. Reboot into download mode and flash G900V_OD5_Bootloader.tar.md5 in odin. Reboot. Wait. (NOTE: for more customization, before installing rom, unzip rom. Edit the options.prop in text editor to your likeing. Rezip original contents with updated options.prop. Flash this zip as the rom file)
To get back into safestrap/recovery: Make sure hashcode's version of safestrap is installed. A lollipop safestrap will be installed--don't use it. Also, install NI2Flasher.apk (this flashes a kitkat kernel, which will allow you to get back into the kitkat safestrap). Reboot into safestrap. IMPORTANT: When complete with whatever is being done in SS, flash G900V_PB1_Stock_KERNEL_SafeStrap-Flashable.zip to get back into lollipop rom.
Install xpose modules: This allows the essential greenify app (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) to run to maximum potential. Gather following files:
1. APK: Xposed Installer 3.0 alpha4 (comes with some roms)
2. Flash in SS: Framework: xposed-v75-sdk21-arm-arter97-snapdragon.zip
3. Flash in SS: Uninstaller: xposed-uninstaller-arter97.zip
Since the rom I installed did not come with xposed installed. I flashed the framework in SS (look above to properly access and leave SS). Reboot. Install the APK. Reboot. Highly recommend installing Wanam's modules for lollipop--tons of modifications.
Unbrick: Get into download mode and flash: Full Wipe G900V_Downgrade_to_NCG.tar . (This helped me a ton until I realized that safestrap for the S5 does not work with rom-slots. Use the stock slot to do all flashing)
I gathered all this information from various threads, and hope this helps (highly recommend reviewing painiac's guide before starting anything - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848). I am no expert, but this is what worked for me--please correct me if I'm wrong at any step. I believe the way I set this up, I should be able to get back to a kitkat rom, if I ever wanted to (easiest way to do this would be to flash the unbrick file). I hope this can help at least one person, since I know I'm not the only person to recently get an S5 due to someone else in the family upgrading to the S7.

Need some guidance in setting up root and Rom on my s5. Never done this before on a Verizon phone so if anyone can help I'd appreciate it

Xperia Z3 Root without Downgrade?

Hi, I updated m device to the 6.0.1 and unlocked the bootloader with the intention to put a custom recovery mode in it, and eventually root it. Now I've read tons of topics where the followed procedure assumes a downgrade to KitKat and a preparation of a pre rooted Marshmallow, but isn't there a way to avoid this? I mean I only want root permissions, I don't want any self customized rom such as this sound.
Thank you for the attention, hope this is useful.

Install a custom recovery through fastboot. Flash SuperSU.zip through the recovery. You might lose the possibility to receive OTA updates by doing this however.

Is Devo;per bootloader the same thing as "Unlocked'?

I am on PB1 Rooted with dev-mod bootloader. I want to upgrade to PF4 rooted, but am not entirely clear which version to use.
"Locked" or 'Unlocked" The whole parenthesis thing just adds more confusion for me. I don't need de-odexed, I just want to run stock rom.
Thank you for any help I can get.

Yes, Dev-bootloader = unlocked bootloader. What you will first need to do is go to the first post of the thread that showed you how to unlock the PB1 bootloader, and then scroll down and do the section marked by "Upgrade To PD1 Rom With PD1 Unlocked Bootloader From 5.0 TW Rom With PB1 Unlocked Bootloaders" follow the instructions and use one of the rooted PF4 roms, like what muniz_ri has posted, and you should have PF4 rooted with unlocked bootloader no problems. Of note muniz_ri's Rom's include the stock recovery, so you will either want to replace that before flashing or reflash TWRP after you have installed the Rom.

Kaliaila said:
Yes, Dev-bootloader = unlocked bootloader. What you will first need to do is go to the first post of the thread that showed you how to unlock the PB1 bootloader, and then scroll down and do the section marked by "Upgrade To PD1 Rom With PD1 Unlocked Bootloader From 5.0 TW Rom With PB1 Unlocked Bootloaders" follow the instructions and use one of the rooted PF4 roms, like what muniz_ri has posted, and you should have PF4 rooted with unlocked bootloader no problems. Of note muniz_ri's Rom's include the stock recovery, so you will either want to replace that before flashing or reflash TWRP after you have installed the Rom.
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Yeah tried the PF4 thing, and it BRICKED my phone...

Odd.
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kotuamoalt said:
Yeah tried the PF4 thing, and it BRICKED my phone...
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jrkruse posted a new unlock method in the unlock guide. That might work for you.