I wanna Downgrade back to Stock 5.1 but my question is, do I have any problems with bootloader, flickering or OTA's if I downgrade from 6.0.1 CM13 to 5.1 Pure Stock?
And should I think about something before I downgrade?
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You can do it through MFastboot method, and you won't have any problem at all. Just download right version for your region and you're done.
razor001_ said:
You can do it through MFastboot method, and you won't have any problem at all. Just download right version for your region and you're done.
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I got a flashable zip?
can i flash it or do i need to use the mfastboot method?
It will be fine with that flashable ZIP... it's just like another ROM. I told you MFastboot method because that way you're making sure that everything is stock and not Modified.
razor001_ said:
It will be fine with that flashable ZIP... it's just like another ROM. I told you MFastboot method because that way you're making sure that everything is stock and not Modified.
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Is a factory reset/ all wipe not enough to flash it normaly?
or why mfastboot?
Well, If you want everything Stock then you must do it through MFastboot method. with the ZIP that you have it will be a stock ROM; but your Recovery and Bootlogo still are modded (Recovery will be CWM or TWRP, and your bootlogo stays the same you have right now, not the warning you get when you unlock the Bootloader)
Edit: both ways to do it are fine... Just different results at the end.
razor001_ said:
Well, If you want everything Stock then you must do it through MFastboot method. with the ZIP that you have it will be a stock ROM; but your Recovery and Bootlogo still are modded (Recovery will be CWM or TWRP, and your bootlogo stays the same you have right now, not the warning you get when you unlock the Bootloader)
Edit: both ways to do it are fine... Just different results at the end.
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So what are the results if I only flash it instead of mfastboot?
Flash Zip: Stock ROM, modified recovery, and if in the past you flashed a bootlogo it will stay the same. (If in the future you want to flash again CM or any other ROM this is the best)
Mfastboot: Stock ROM, stock recovery, and stock bootlogo (the one with the warning of unlocked bootloader) (if in the future you want to flash again CM or other ROM you'll have to flash the recovery first and then flash your ROM)
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razor001_ said:
Flash Zip: Stock ROM, modified recovery, and if in the past you flashed a bootlogo it will stay the same. (If in the future you want to flash again CM or any other ROM this is the best)
Mfastboot: Stock ROM, stock recovery, and stock bootlogo (the one with the warning of unlocked bootloader) (if in the future you want to flash again CM or other ROM you'll have to flash the recovery first and then flash your ROM)
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Okay thx for the Info
But my phone will not get bricked or flickering because of bootloader?
I know it gets bricked if I go from MM to KK.
It won't... Flicker happens because some kernel implementations changed from KitKat to Lollipop. And the bricked devices were because people tried to flash KitKat bootloader (motoboot.bin) and partition table (gpt.bin or something like that) on top of Lollipop.
But as our Moto G 1st gen didn't get past Official Lollipop there isn't a new bootloader version released. And CM13 is implemented over the same Lollipop bootloader. So don't worry about bricking your device if you wanna downgrade to Stock Lollipop.
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razor001_ said:
It won't... Flicker happens because some kernel implementations changed from KitKat to Lollipop. And the bricked devices were because people tried to flash KitKat bootloader (motoboot.bin) and partition table (gpt.bin or something like that) on top of Lollipop.
But as our Moto G 1st gen didn't get past Official Lollipop there isn't a new bootloader version released. And CM13 is implemented over the same Lollipop bootloader. So don't worry about bricking your device if you wanna downgrade to Stock Lollipop.
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Okay Thanks
I think not brick
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I need CWM/TWRP flashable stock 4.4.3 ROM. Mine is XT1032 global US version.
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Same here
Yes please, that would help enormously.
sohan3421 said:
I need CWM/TWRP flashable stock 4.4.3 ROM. Mine is XT1032 global US version.
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There is a 4.4.3 stock firmware image of US Global GSM Moto G. use that
https://mega.co.nz/#!UAxXTDbI!zRN0NKmH-klXBOu-10USPiBU7fJf9I7ESHFZdzFxrew
then flash custom recovery and root. reboot into the custom recovery and make a backup of the rom (system, data, boot)
and there you go. you have a flashbable stock rom
AgentChaos said:
There is a 4.4.3 stock firmware image of US Global GSM Moto G. use that
https://mega.co.nz/#!UAxXTDbI!zRN0NKmH-klXBOu-10USPiBU7fJf9I7ESHFZdzFxrew
then flash custom recovery and root. reboot into the custom recovery and make a backup of the rom (system, data, boot)
and there you go. you have a flashbable stock rom
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My MotoG's bootloader unlocked, CWM installed & rooted. Is that the link of flashable zip?
sohan3421 said:
My MotoG's bootloader unlocked, CWM installed & rooted. Is that the link of flashable zip?
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No, you need to use fastboot mode to install stock firmware. it will wipe everything from the device. then you can install custom recovery and root. then back it up in the recovery. that is the only way.
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No, you need to use fastboot mode to install stock firmware. it will wipe everything from the device. then you can install custom recovery and root. then back it up in the recovery. that is the only way.
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Some one need the back up cause they are in GPE 4.4.4 and cant revert back with fastboot as i understand that request
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windylawyer.1712 said:
Some one need the back up cause they are in GPE 4.4.4 and cant revert back with fastboot as i understand that request
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yes you can revert back, because I have done it many times.
if your bootloader is updated to the latest version, you can still go back to 4.4.2 even if the bootloader is from 4.4.4.
you just have to skip this step
Code:
fastboot flash motoboot motoboot.img
AgentChaos said:
yes you can revert back, because I have done it many times.
if your bootloader is updated to the latest version, you can still go back to 4.4.2 even if the bootloader is from 4.4.4.
you just have to skip this step
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fastboot flash motoboot motoboot.img
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Are u sure abt that?
Many people out there, they have half-brick devices cause they try do down grade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 GPE.
People say that the fastboot doesnt work and the partition is different
if u are sure, u can make a clean thread, and help many people survive :highfive::highfive::highfive:
windylawyer.1712 said:
Are u sure abt that?
Many people out there, they have half-brick devices cause they try do down grade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 GPE.
People say that the fastboot doesnt work and the partition is different
if u are sure, u can make a clean thread, and help many people survive :highfive::highfive::highfive:
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Of course I am sure. I done this myself. I am back to Moto stock firmware. I tried GPE but HDR mode was missing in the camera app.
and no Audio Effects (DSP Manager). But it is possible to go back to 4.4.2 from 4.4.4 but you have to skip the motoboot image file. that is the bootloader. you cant downgrade the bootloader.
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Of course I am sure. I done this myself. I am back to Moto stock firmware. I tried GPE but HDR mode was missing in the camera app.
and no Audio Effects (DSP Manager). But it is possible to go back to 4.4.2 from 4.4.4 but you have to skip the motoboot image file. that is the bootloader. you cant downgrade the bootloader.
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Which version moto G you have? Cause i'm affraid of the defference of partition in GPE and the stock 4.4.2 can cause issue!
I'm using xt1033.
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Btw, u should make a thread many people will appreciate that
windylawyer.1712 said:
Which version moto G you have? Cause i'm affraid of the defference of partition in GPE and the stock 4.4.2 can cause issue!
I'm using xt1033.
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Btw, u should make a thread many people will appreciate that
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I have XT1032 and you can go back to stock 4.4.2 for XT1033, because XT1033 has 4.4.4 update as well.
Why are you running GPE for XT1033 in the first place?
I have converted from GPE to Stock Motorola firmware and had no issues with partition. so obviously you are doing something wrong.
Right guys firstly i would like to make a massive shoutout to @fl4m3y
Brilliant work on your efforts for the community!!
Without his guide found HERE i would never have been able to leave any 4.4.4 custom rom!
Thankyou friend.
Disclaimer
I am not 100% this will work for you. Use at YOUR OWN RISK.
I will not be held responsible for anyone saying, "omg, my phone had a chance of coming back to life, now your guide has killed it off"
Because that wasn't and isn't the case for me. It has worked 100% STOCK flash by FASTBOOT
95% of this is @fl4m3y credits all thanks go to this guy. Nor will @fl4m3y be blamed as he has stated in his thread. .Right i will tell you what i did.. everything i did, dont do anything i didnt do. or it probley wont work. same goes for skipping things out.
Firstly
I need you to follow this Guide.
Troubleshooting: (These are some errors i came across, managed to fix them these ways)
The CWM Backup won't push to /sdcard
This happened to me, i don't know why but i managed to fix this by going into 'Mounts and Storage and Mounting STORAGE'
it was unmounted for some reason. Double check this..
It wont start restoring i get MD5 sumcheck failed error.
You need to go into Advance settings in Backup and Restore and uncheck 'check md5sum' (Not sure what it was called just look for something to do with md5sum and make sure there isnt a x next to it)
I Get a Error Resoring /data or /system
go into Backup and Restore and select to do a Custom Restore. Now just as if you where fastboot flashing something, restore each of them speratly..
i started from the top. (Boot.img i think it was then selected to restore and them moved down the list)
now there should be 3 parts to all of them. i went through every single one just to make sure it went well.
so in system there was 3 diffrent files relating to system .. restore them all then move on..
Once you have followed this and your phone has rebooted Sucsessfully you need to download this Official 4.2.2 GPE Fastboot Firmware
Now this is a OFFICIALLY SIGNED FASTBOOT FIRMWARE.. i think thats why it has worked.
The Thread is HERE if you want to look where i found it
Now you need the fastboot files. If you dont have the here they are
I would download them anyways just to make sure its followed exactly how i did it.
I downloaded everything to my Desktop and extracted to my desktop. it makes it easy for me to organise.
Now put your phone into bootloader
Heres for the next part. Extract the Fastboot files into the folder with the Firmware files. There is a .bat file inside that autoflashes everything
Do not press it! We dont need all the files flashed!
Ok so i need you to go to the folder with the firmware in and: Press and hold Right Shift and right click on the file and select to open cmd window here.
Now Type: Fastboot Devices
this is just checking everything is working.
Copy each of these and paste them into your cmd window
fastboot flash motoboot motoboot.img
fastboot flash logo logo.bin
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk1
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk2
fastboot flash system system.img_sparsechunk3
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot reboot
Your phone should Reboot with 100% STOCK GPE.
i am going to try fastboot flash over this a UK Retail Firmware and see what happens.. i will report back if we can now sucsefully flash firmwares other then this one.
@gd91
Confirmed working
Nop its not working for me...I am stuck at google logo...but my moto is xt1033 maybe that is why its not working? ;P
Oh, maybe does everything flash okay?
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Yeah everything flashed okay except those warnings that are allways there...restoring backup went well too thx to your guide on how to avoid those mount problems
Guys, can i use this guide to downgrade from GPE 4.4.4 to GPE 4.4.2 and then to stock 4.4.2 ?
No. You will have to wait for 4.4.4 stock partition. And boot loader. Its being pushed out now or soon.. Then you can flash over GPE to stock. This only putbstock GPE back on my phone
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Clarkiieh said:
No. You will have to wait for 4.4.4 stock partition. And boot loader. Its being pushed out now or soon.. Then you can flash over GPE to stock
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People keep saying this, but nobody explains the rationality behind it.
2 things:
1) How does having the 4.4.4 GPE files help in any way with downgrading? If I downgrade, I'd want to downgrade all components, including the bootloader, no? Are you thinking that it is impossible to downgrade the GPT and bootloader after they have been upgraded, even if your bootloader is unlocked, so you would flash the 4.4.4 versions of those but the system partition and modem/baseband from whatever version you want to downgrade to?
2) Even if what you are saying is true, that you would need the 4.4.4 GPT and bootloader in order to perform a successful downgrade to an earlier version, the fact is that the gpt and motoboot files are already available today, extractable from the OTA zip that has been making the rounds. They have already been extracted by others and posted elsewhere. So what more do you need/want out of the 4.4.4 fastboot-flashable release?
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You have miss understood.. We can downgrade to 4.4.2 GPE ( i don't think It was shipped with Jelly Bean) its a dodle
Although!
People who dont want to be on GPE 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, and want to go back to the Motorola Stock 4.4.2 will have to wait for the 4.4.4 Stock Motorola update to come to their region ATM it is only hitting certain areas for the time being..
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The process will go like this..
Flash GPE 4.4.4 then flash over that the morotorola stock 4.4.4
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Clarkiieh said:
You have miss understood.. We can downgrade to 4.4.2 GPE
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Ah, okay, yes, I guess I did partially misunderstand. But I have been seeing people talk about the problems they have been having downgrading even to 4.4.2 GPE from 4.4.4 GPE. I see that people have stumbled across various convoluted workarounds, but for some reason it is not just as easy as reflashing all of the necessary files while in fastboot. I suspect that the fact that this doesn't work even when trying to go back to 4.4.2 GPE is related to the problems people are having when trying to return to 4.4.2 Motorola.
Clarkiieh said:
People who dont want to be on GPE 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 or 4.4.4, and want to go back to the Motorola Stock 4.4.2 will have to wait for the 4.4.4 Stock Motorola update to come to their region
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Well, then I still don't understand. If you are running 4.4.4 GPE, why do you have to first flash to 4.4.4 Motorola before downgrading to 4.4.2 Motorola? If you can't go directly to 4.4.2 Motorola from 4.4.4 GPE, what makes you think that having access to 4.4.4 Motorola would make this procedure work? I guess that's the part that is missing for me. Nobody is explaining why they believe that having access to 4.4.4 Motorola will assist in a downgrade to older versions of stock Motorola.
Clarkiieh said:
The process will go like this..Flash GPE 4.4.4 then flash over that the morotorola stock 4.4.4
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...and then flash 4.4.2 stock Motorola over 4.4.4? Why will that work if flashing directly from 4.4.4 GPE wouldn't?
-- Nathan
GPE and Motorola have totally different file systems.. I dunno.. Its all confusing I haven't really been told myself but just buy reading what others have said and what has worked for me, I cannot flash 4.4.2 over my GPE 4.4.2 that has been brick recovered I need the 4.4.4 boot and gpt.. I think when you convert to 4.4.4 there are files and partitions you cannot flash over unless you have the whole thing. I think the big issue isnt partitions it's the bootloader, I cannot flash any other but 4.4.4 I don't know why eve after flashing 4.4.4 gpt.bin
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GPE edition mean only single sim working???
sanads said:
GPE edition mean only single sim working???
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Yes there is only single sim variant of moto g gpe edition as I know of...
Yes but there are new way people have found
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Hello forum, basically, when I got my moto G, it was on 4.3, so I did all the bits, and the step i did after all the rooting unlocking etc was upgraded my bootloader to the lollipop one (ending in 8 i believe) - which i wish i didnt do, and cant downgrade to 4.4.4 (or can I without bricking)......right back to the story.......the problem now is, whenever i try uninstalling apps, or wiping data in any app etc, my phone does a reboot, I installed the brazillian 5.0.2 flashable rom (the optimised one) which worked perfectly, did all the correct wipes etc, but it reboots when uninstalling apps......, and thought i would try dirty unicorns....works well except the rebooting problem...... help....what can I do????????
I read somewhere that maybe to solve it, you gotta change runtime from dalvik to ART, but there is no option to change this....
There are no 5.0.2 uk images available that i have read (so i cant completely get back to complete factory settings)
I really wished i kept the KK bootloader!!!! so who can help me????? I want to try some of the great CM11 builds!!!
Since your bootloader is unlocked and you have the lollipop bootloader, I suggest flashing the stock 4.4.4 (not 4.4.2) ROM for your xt1032 (you will not be able to flash the motoboot file so don't bother trying), upgrade the Motorola apps via Play store, and take the 5.02 OTA update.
FInd your stock ROM here: http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=filename&order=ASC&show=100&page=1
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Since your bootloader is unlocked and you have the lollipop bootloader, I suggest flashing the stock 4.4.4 (not 4.4.2) ROM for your xt1032 (you will not be able to flash the motoboot file so don't bother trying), upgrade the Motorola apps via Play store, and take the 5.02 OTA update.
FInd your stock ROM here: http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=filename&order=ASC&show=100&page=1
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do i have to update to 5.0.2 again? as i want to try cm11 again
@audit13 is this a flashable zip, or do you need to do it via fastboot? as its got a bootloader included in the zip (4.4.4 kitkat bootloader)
The files from filefactory need to be unzipped and flashed via fastboot or mfastboot.
You do not need to do anything with the stock ROM if you want to install a custom ROM. All you need to do is install a compatible custom recovery and a custom ROM. I suggest flashing right to the latest CM12 rather than using CM11.
I suggested flashing back to the stock for your phone and upgrading to 5.02 via OTA to see if the uninstall problem goes away.
yep understood @audit13 read your other posts on this matter too, the reason I want to use a cm11 rom, is I had a moto g about 8-9 months ago, and there was a rom i loved, and it was cm11 based......will i brick if i do flash this cm11 rom? i know about flickering bug, and possible hard brick if i went back to versions below 4.4.4 ...... and i love cyanogenmod roms, as i dont get irritating moto updates etc
Flashing CM11 should not be a problem as CM11 ROMs do not touch the bootloader or modem.
so basically, downgrade to the 4.4.4 firmware file, and cm11 and im done? yeah?
You can try to flash cm11 directly over stock 5.02. If it doesn't work, you may have to flash back to stock 4.4.4, install recovery, and then flash cm11.
I have reflashed(clean install= wiped data/cache/system) 5.0.2 Asian lollipop stock rom,which doesnt upgrade bootloader i.e im on kitkat bootloader. after flashing, i lost root access and i'm on stock recovery. And Now I got 5.1 OTA, can i install it or not? Because while turning on my device, i get custom image first and then motorola animation,i get this custom image because i have made it by moto g boot logo creator + flasher.
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pagadalachetan said:
I have reflashed(clean install= wiped data/cache/system) 5.0.2 Asian lollipop stock rom,which doesnt upgrade bootloader i.e im on kitkat bootloader. after flashing, i lost root access and i'm on stock recovery. And Now I got 5.1 OTA, can i install it or not? Because while turning on my device, i get custom image first and then motorola animation,i get this custom image because i have made it by moto g boot logo creator + flasher.
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Yes you can flash the OTA update without any issues. Considering your bootloader is 41.18 you wont be having any trouble and obviously since you clean flashed 5.0.2 surely your bootloader must have updated itself automatically
thuva06 said:
Yes you can flash the OTA update without any issues. Considering your bootloader is 41.18 you wont be having any trouble and obviously since you clean flashed 5.0.2 surely your bootloader must have updated itself automatically
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Thanks thuva... My bootloader version is 41.08 I.e KitKat bootloader
I first restore to stock 4.4.4 from CM11 by manually flashing falcon_boost_user_4.4.4_KXB21.14-L1.57_57_release-keys-cid9.xml.zip. Everything worked.
After that, I try to upgrade to stock 5.1 by manually flashing XT1031_FALCON_BOOST_5.1_LPB23.13-56_cid9_CFC.xml.zip with mfastboot. Every part seemed to flashed successfully, but when it is finished, it won't boot and stuck at bootloader unlocked screen.
Now I cannot downgrade to 4.4.4 since the gpt.bin and motoboot.bin all failed preflash verification. I guess the bootloader won't allow downgrade. Even with all other parts successfully flashed, it is still stuck at booloader unlocked screen.
I also tried to flash twrp 2.8.7.0, but it also failed due to partition size different. (Is it because twrp can only be flashed under 4.4.4 bootloader?)
So I am stuck now. Please help me. How do I flash stock 5.1 and later CM12.1? Thanks in advance.
Try flashing the firmware with RSD Lite and see what happens.
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Fixed. I found a stock rom 4.4.4 downgrade package from here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/3omnox/moto_g_xt1031_boost_lollipop_stock_rom/
It has same contents as the 4.4.4 stock rom package I downloaded from filefactory, except there is a fastboot.exe boundled in this package (dated 6/25/2014) that is newer than the one I was using (dated 3/20/2013). This one successfully restored my XT1031 to 4.4.4 stock.
Flashed of twrp and also flashed stock 5.1 optimized from twrp. Both went well.
kzqc said:
I first restore to stock 4.4.4 from CM11 by manually flashing falcon_boost_user_4.4.4_KXB21.14-L1.57_57_release-keys-cid9.xml.zip. Everything worked.
After that, I try to upgrade to stock 5.1 by manually flashing XT1031_FALCON_BOOST_5.1_LPB23.13-56_cid9_CFC.xml.zip with mfastboot. Every part seemed to flashed successfully, but when it is finished, it won't boot and stuck at bootloader unlocked screen.
Now I cannot downgrade to 4.4.4 since the gpt.bin and motoboot.bin all failed preflash verification. I guess the bootloader won't allow downgrade. Even with all other parts successfully flashed, it is still stuck at booloader unlocked screen.
I also tried to flash twrp 2.8.7.0, but it also failed due to partition size different. (Is it because twrp can only be flashed under 4.4.4 bootloader?)
So I am stuck now. Please help me. How do I flash stock 5.1 and later CM12.1? Thanks in advance.
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Just install latest TWRP it is compatible with Lollipop or CWM then flash CM12.1
Paradox♀ said:
Just install latest TWRP it is compatible with Lollipop or CWM then flash CM12.1
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Thanks.