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Hi all,
I've installed custom ROMs many times, and always used Titanium Backup (Pro) to re-install all my apps and settings automatically.
I was suprised today after installing PAC-ROM 22.1.0 (Jelly Bean 4.2.2) to have the Play Store automatically re-install all my apps. I did not have to use Titanium this time...
Is that a new feature from 4.2.2 ? Or from the Play Store itself ?
Thanks for your thoughts
regards
No google store is restoring your last installed apps free not quite sure how many apps are being installed. Figure around last 60 apps. I wish they wouldn't i test lots of apps. I would say i get about 20 junk apps installed every time
aymelis said:
Hi all,
I've installed custom ROMs many times, and always used Titanium Backup (Pro) to re-install all my apps and settings automatically.
I was suprised today after installing PAC-ROM 22.1.0 (Jelly Bean 4.2.2) to have the Play Store automatically re-install all my apps. I did not have to use Titanium this time...
Is that a new feature from 4.2.2 ? Or from the Play Store itself ?
Thanks for your thoughts
regards
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It's an option that you enable or disable when setting up a Google account on a device.
shinobisoft said:
It's an option that you enable or disable when setting up a Google account on a device.
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What is quoted below is directly from Google play store! So how did you come to your conclusion?
Permanently removing uninstalled apps
At this time, there is no way to permanently delete or remove apps from the Google Play website (My Orders/My Android Apps) or from the Google Play Store app (My Apps) that you’ve previously downloaded but have since uninstalled.
Uninstalling apps using the Google Play website
To uninstall apps from play.google.com, simply visit the My Android Apps section. Click on your desired device, then click the trash can icon (to the left of the INSTALLED button) next to the app you'd like to uninstall. Click UNINSTALL to confirm.
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Some apk's of the playstore in gapps packages have auto restore where, as someone stated earlier, youre most recently installed apps are reinstalled. In some cases all of them. Its usually just something the dev who created the gapps package puts together. Ive never heard of it being an option in google settings.
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culaterout said:
What is quoted below is directly from Google play store! So how did you come to your conclusion?
Permanently removing uninstalled apps
At this time, there is no way to permanently delete or remove apps from the Google Play website (My Orders/My Android Apps) or from the Google Play Store app (My Apps) that you’ve previously downloaded but have since uninstalled.
Uninstalling apps using the Google Play website
To uninstall apps from play.google.com, simply visit the My Android Apps section. Click on your desired device, then click the trash can icon (to the left of the INSTALLED button) next to the app you'd like to uninstall. Click UNINSTALL to confirm.
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First of all, the OP is not asking how to uninstall apps via Play Store. My conclusion is from experience. Flashing many ROMs and having to setup my google account with every new ROM. After entering your Google username and password you are prompted by a checkbox that asks to keep this device backed up on google. Enabling it causes the behaviour the OP is reporting.
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sob372 said:
Some apk's of the playstore in gapps packages have auto restore where, as someone stated earlier, youre most recently installed apps are reinstalled. In some cases all of them. Its usually just something the dev who created the gapps package puts together. Ive never heard of it being an option in google settings.
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I never said it was an option in google settings. I said it was an option presented when setting up your google account on a device.
shinobisoft said:
First of all, the OP is not asking how to uninstall apps via Play Store. My conclusion is from experience. Flashing many ROMs and having to setup my google account with every new ROM. After entering your Google username and password you are prompted by a checkbox that asks to keep this device backed up on google. Enabling it causes the behaviour the OP is reporting.
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I never said it was an option in google settings. I said it was an option presented when setting up your google account on a device.
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Understood what you said hoping you knew of option to stop apps from reinstalling after google account was already setup!
I guess i should have asked in a question. Did not mean to get you on defensive. My Second android phone was hoping that google by now would have seen these pitfalls in reinstallion of apps and customers need to experiment.
I wish google would get its act together realize 90% of apps i dont want are free in the first place. Its annoying to see free apps being reinstalled. I could understand paid apps being reinstalled but free apps come on Google Play Store!
But thanks for the reply!
culaterout said:
Understood what you said hoping you knew of option to stop apps from reinstalling after google account was already setup!
I guess i should have asked in a question. Did not mean to get you on defensive. My Second android phone was hoping that google by now would have seen these pitfalls in reinstallion of apps and customers need to experiment.
I wish google would get its act together realize 90% of apps i dont want are free in the first place. Its annoying to see free apps being reinstalled. I could understand paid apps being reinstalled but free apps come on Google Play Store!
But thanks for the reply!
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Unfortunately I don't know how to stop the reinstallation, sorry. I don't normally use that feature anyways. Google seems to be getting too big for their britches too. As for me being on the defensive, it's all good .
shinobisoft said:
Unfortunately I don't know how to stop the reinstallation, sorry. I don't normally use that feature anyways. Google seems to be getting too big for their britches too. As for me being on the defensive, it's all good .
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I've probably misunderstood the issue here but if you want to stop the restoration of apps on each new ROM flash then just go to settings>backup & restore and uncheck the boxes for keeping the phone backed up and restoring the phone each time. If you mean that you want it only to install the paid apps and not free apps then I have no clue, sorry.
EDIT: whoops, quoted the wrong person.
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Flashing many ROMs and having to setup my google account with every new ROM. After entering your Google username and password you are prompted by a checkbox that asks to keep this device backed up on google.
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Agreed, same experience so far... I always answer yes/ok
shinobisoft said:
Enabling it causes the behaviour the OP is reporting.
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However, as i said, it's the first time my apps get re-installed by themselves. Anyways, does this mean that Titanium Backup became obsolete ?
Btw, since play store v3.9 or so, one can remove the apps from the account (except he paid ones). One can even select as many apps as required and remove them all at once. Go to my applications>all apps.
Regards
I tell you one thing: it's never worked well. If I try to move over onto WiFi so that my battery won't be violated and it won't be downloading for half a day it always stops reloading them and it won't work again. This would be a great feature if it worked well.
Is there an app that backs up the market links to installed apps? I dont want an app that backs up the app themselves, like their apks. I just want to back up the market links
Doesn't the google play store do that automatically? Or am I misunderstanding you
phsar said:
Doesn't the google play store do that automatically? Or am I misunderstanding you
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Really? Can you tell me how google play store saves your apps? I'm thinking about rooting my phone. And I want to restore all the apps I had after I root it.
yahanna said:
Really? Can you tell me how google play store saves your apps? I'm thinking about rooting my phone. And I want to restore all the apps I had after I root it.
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Open the play store, press the 3 lines on the top left, select My Apps, and then All. Or do it on your browser, go to the google play site and click My Apps
not found such one yet
phsar said:
Open the play store, press the 3 lines on the top left, select My Apps, and then All. Or do it on your browser, go to the google play site and click My Apps
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But that shows all the apps I ever installed. I want back the apps I got currently installed. Not the ones I had previously.
Got to playstore> My apps It shows the apps which you've curently installed. And the 'All' section shows the all apps you've ever installed in your device. If you really want to keep a track of all the apps besides this method, take out a notebook and start writing them
Have the pixel xl, does anyone know why when i go to google play and uninstall gmail, it says uninstalled but then it says in Google play open or update. Also when I check the app drawer, gmail is still there. I thought we were supposed to be able to uninstall google bloatware? Bought pixel from Google store?
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Can't tell if you forgot /s at the end or what!? Google bloatware on a Google phone, lol. Love it.
But it does seem slightly hypocritical.
Of course, if you root you can uninstall anything you like.
TCPDump said:
Of course, if you root you can uninstall anything you like.
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I don't really want to root if i don't have to, is there any other way to uninstall these apps?
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jreink01 said:
I don't really want to root if i don't have to, is there any other way to uninstall these apps?
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You can disable pre-installed apps. Doesn't remove them from your phone, but they won't show up in your app drawer anymore. Just go to app info and select disable.
jreink01 said:
Have the pixel xl, does anyone know why when i go to google play and uninstall gmail, it says uninstalled but then it says in Google play open or update. Also when I check the app drawer, gmail is still there. I thought we were supposed to be able to uninstall google bloatware? Bought pixel from Google store?
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What you uninstalled, was an UPDATE to it, reverting it to the factory installed version.
As others have mentioned, you need to just go and *disable* it.
I've noticed that the Mate 9's apps aren't in the play store. It doesn't appear it has it's own Store either. How the heck do they update?
They either have the auto-update or they do not update at all.
MetroPCS has some apps installed on their Samsungs and are not present in any store. So they either update automatically, or they do not update at all.
RossTeagan said:
They either have the auto-update or they do not update at all.
MetroPCS has some apps installed on their Samsungs and are not present in any store. So they either update automatically, or they do not update at all.
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Sigh.. I was afraid of that. Makes me want to look elsewhere when the Mate 10 comes out. I'd hate to wait for system updates just to fix bugs in messaging or even the mail app.
DOTC said:
Sigh.. I was afraid of that. Makes me want to look elsewhere when the Mate 10 comes out. I'd hate to wait for system updates just to fix bugs in messaging or even the mail app.
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True, but you could also use third-party apps that you can find in Google Play instead of the default one from Huawei.
HiApp
DOTC said:
I've noticed that the Mate 9's apps aren't in the play store. It doesn't appear it has it's own Store either. How the heck do they update?
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are they not in the HiApp store?
That doesn't exist on my phone... I've got the US model.
RossTeagan said:
True, but you could also use third-party apps that you can find in Google Play instead of the default one from Huawei.
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Oh for sure. I usually give the built in apps a shot because when you theme the phone, none of the non-huawei apps obviously theme and it throws the look off. I know that seems stupid, but hey. Also, I know this isn't Samsung, but have you ever tried to use 3rd party apps instead of theirs? All kinda of crap doesn't work right from the gallery to messaging and so on.
well...
DOTC said:
That doesn't exist on my phone... I've got the US model.
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I tried googling "hiapp apk" and it led me straight to Huawei's official app store where HiApp is available for download...
alternatively try to connect to HiSuite on your computer... there it would also prompt you to update the different apps when new versions become available...
HiApp is its own app store for Huawei mobiles and tablets. And you can download the package installer, . apk file, for HiApp store from official website of Huawei as below.
http://appstore.huawei.com/app/C27162
Ah great. Thanks guys.
Hi Guys.
Now its been a few months with the device, I know a lot of you are using the device with GMS. I have decided not to side load it on to the device, It took me a while to start get used to using the phone without. I have not had any real issues with getting apps via app gallery and petal search. (I have the odd app that doesn't work 100%, but they are apps i can live without)
how are you getting on with it all?
its been good for me also, thought i would have had a lot more issues but every app i need is there, the only exclusion atm being ebay which i can easly use via web as its layout is same as an app anyway lol
I think like most initially I was apprehensive but 8 weeks on I don't even notice tbh, life continues and I've got a banging bit of kit
dw9075n said:
Hi Guys.
Now its been a few months with the device, I know a lot of you are using the device with GMS. I have decided not to side load it on to the device, It took me a while to start get used to using the phone without. I have not had any real issues with getting apps via app gallery and petal search. (I have the odd app that doesn't work 100%, but they are apps i can live without)
how are you getting on with it all?
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What apps are these? i may have easy work arounds for you.
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I think like most initially I was apprehensive but 8 weeks on I don't even notice tbh, life continues and I've got a banging bit of kit
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Pretty much how I feel, still a few apps here and there like OP said. Do hope AppGallery gets fleshed out soon, sounds like there's promising things on the way - just hoping Huawei invest in their ecosystem / store as they said they would!
That said, Petal Search was a pretty smart way for them to get arround Apps not being launched on their own store... Well played Huawei.
I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
faceliler said:
I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
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This is actually a really interest approach that makes a lot of sense. One thing I will say is HMS still seems to be better on the battery than GMS devices / installed. I guess it would be a lot of the data collection and analysis from Googles end.
Do mapping services still work with both cores completely removed? Has there been any draw backs at all?
The Google maps app works fine. I use it daily. But apps that use Google maps needs Google services to display the map(Like Grab). They don't work. This is the only drawback that I experienced.
ChrisHtube said:
What apps are these? i may have easy work arounds for you.
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The only app i have had real issues with is the starbucks app. I've tried via the browsers but cannot use the card feature.
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The Google maps app works fine. I use it daily. But apps that use Google maps needs Google services to display the map(Like Grab). They don't work. This is the only drawback that I experienced.
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I am guessing that HMS core apps are probably on there way just taking a while.
it'll be good to see what will come in the next few months, daily there seems to be something new, I think I noticed sky go is now available!
now that i have gotten issues sorted out its not bad at all , only thing i miss is being able to cast to my chromecast. i set microsoft launcher and it allowed me to set google as my search engine so it feels very similar.
dw9075n said:
The only app i have had real issues with is the starbucks app. I've tried via the browsers but cannot use the card feature.
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i see, unfortunately i don't use Starbucks. Im more of a Monster man haha. If i find anything ill be sure to let you know.
faceliler said:
I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
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Would you have a link to that mod please?
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Would you have a link to that mod please?
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I got it from this website: https://apk4all.com/android/apps/apkpure-mobile-appstore-mod/
I meant link for this "Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores"
Manual for debloating?
MixEvo said:
now that i have gotten issues sorted out its not bad at all , only thing i miss is being able to cast to my chromecast. i set microsoft launcher and it allowed me to set google as my search engine so it feels very similar.
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When I am am streaming I just use the wireless display feature on the device.
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
it'll be good to see what will come in the next few months, daily there seems to be something new, I think I noticed sky go is now available!
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Yeah it looks like it is getting much better. Once it has banking apps on there it will likely do much better and more people will start realising how fantastic the device is.
My music service is YouTube, I can't live without google services. I've been thinking about switch to other phone, the only gps I got working 100% of the time is Waze(Google app), don't have push for many apps is frustrating and I lost google pay that I used a lot. So not very happy.
raamoon said:
My music service is YouTube, I can't live without google services. I've been thinking about switch to other phone, the only gps I got working 100% of the time is Waze(Google app), don't have push for many apps is frustrating and I lost google pay that I used a lot. So not very happy.
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Try YouTube Vanced. Better than youtube and works.
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rbs_uk said:
I meant link for this "Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores"
Manual for debloating?
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Oh sorry, I used this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/how-to/adb-debloating-t4088633
In addition, I got the app called "App inspector" and got rid of many more apps than those in the guide. App inspector is for getting the package name of bloatware so i can use adb to uninstall.