Hi all,
I'm pretty new to Android, XDA and rooting. I already learned a lot and I'm currently setting up my new HTC 10 with systemless root so I can easily get OTAs. Now I also want to change the system font and install a custom kernel for performance and battery life but I can't find if these two things will influence the systemless root. I want to install the font through flashing a zip file in TWRP and install the custom kernel with a kernel manager. Am I still able to easily apply OTAs with these two things if I install them the way I just described? I hope somebody has the answer. Thanks!
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Hi guys,
newbie in modifying android devices.
As in the title, would like to know the following:
1. How to root without touching recovery
2. Alot of guides for the device I am rooting ask to flash CFW. Then use SuperSU to root it. I am trying NOT to do this.
3. Ability to unroot and maybe even lock back bootloader
How do I go about doing this?
2 devices I have are the HTC Desire V and Sony Xperia Acro S.
Trying not to taint these devices and keep them as default as possible.
Thanks!
Rooting an Android device does not necessarily imply to install a custom recovery (like Clockworkmod), but that is often done for convenience and backup purpose. Root kits often install a custom recovery. Custom recoveries let you install other roms and mods simply by selecting a zip file in your SD card. If anything goes wrong, most recoveries will let you mount the SD card as a USB storage so that you can reinstall another rom. If you worry about warranty or something else, you can install a custom recovery in peace: it will be replaced by the stock recovery in case you decide to revert to a stock unrooted rom (for example using Sony's PC Companion repair feature).
SuperSu or similar apps are needed to install the su binary and to grant root privileges to graphical applications. SuperSu is safe to install and used by millions of users.
To unroot you basically need to uninstall SuperSu. That's somewhere in SuperSu's menus. It will remove the su binary, and the device will no longer be rooted.
lyk13 said:
Hi guys,
newbie in modifying android devices.
As in the title, would like to know the following:
1. How to root without touching recovery
2. Alot of guides for the device I am rooting ask to flash CFW. Then use SuperSU to root it. I am trying NOT to do this.
3. Ability to unroot and maybe even lock back bootloader
How do I go about doing this?
2 devices I have are the HTC Desire V and Sony Xperia Acro S.
Trying not to taint these devices and keep them as default as possible.
Thanks!
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hello
i want to upgrade my nexus to the latest version of google-marshmallow, is there any rom that it's just stock+root build in or there is option that i will install the stock from google + install afterwards the root cause i saw that chainfire isn't work so well on the last version (MRA58N)?
basicly all i need is to record calls and the control on the led light so if there is option to do these two without root so i will install the stock rom from google
thank you
I7210I said:
hello
i want to upgrade my nexus to the latest version of google-marshmallow, is there any rom that it's just stock+root build in or there is option that i will install the stock from google + install afterwards the root cause i saw that chainfire isn't work so well on the last version (MRA58N)?
basicly all i need is to record calls and the control on the led light so if there is option to do these two without root so i will install the stock rom from google
thank you
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Without root, just flash the google images or bat file if it works for you-never has for me. With root, I recommend Wugfresh NRT (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517778). If you go with google, you need to alter the google bat file for no wipe. Don't run user data img if flashing each file. You still need to know basics in case you run into a problem. Be sure to make a backup through recovery. Sounds like you're on MM so you can run the "no wipe" mode. Follow directions as he presents them. Check the android development thread for roms.
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first i'm in 4.4.4 but i want to upgrade ...and it's look like for these two things i need root, so how to install the root let's say i'm installing from the google developer site the last version ...what about the root?
thanks
First, I will recommend a complete wipe from LP to MM. To root, you need custom recovery which you flash from fastboot just like you flash stock recovery. Then, you need a modified stock kernel or a custom kernel. After flashing those, download latest SUPERSU, boot into recovery, flash the supersu apk (actually, I think the app will do this for you). This is exactly what the toolkit does for you which is why I recommend it. He pulls all the needed files for you and automates everything except actually rooting. He pushes the files to your device then boots you into recovery where you will flash the required files. His kit creates a log which you can submit if a problem occurs. You can read the thread about rooting, etc in general subforum. I'll get URL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3050789
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thank you for the help
so i need an modified kernel+stock rom+root
which kernel is most likely close to the stock one?
so,now i have the 4.4.4 plus twrp recovery and stock kernel.
if i will install these kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/orig-development/kernel-elementalx-n5-0-44-t2519607 and twrp recovery and stock 6 last version (MRA58N)
what to do next to make root?
as i read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...e-update-rooted-device-to-5-1-lmy47d-t3050789
he doesn't recomend in these situation to install root...so what to do in my methood?
thanks
So I've seen a few threads asking a similar thing but since they're quite old, I'd like to ask again.
Quick info about my setup:
running stock ROM, MOB30H
system-less root
system-less Xposed
kernel: ElementalX
TWRP recovery
I was hoping I'll be able to install OTAs with less hassle thanks to up-to-date SuperSU and a special version of Xposed. I indeed have received an OTA today - a small update, I believe 9 MB. When I tried to install it though, TWRP booted up and nothing happened.
Does someone run a similar setup? Have you been able to install an OTA after flashing stock recovery (which I guess is what needs to be done to install OTAs)? Would I have to reflash SuperSU and/or Xposed?
Hi guys,
It it possible to get OTA with root and xposed? Should i uninstall xposed and unroot device?(how to unroot? uncheck Enable superuser?)
Nope
Flash stock
farid993 said:
Hi guys,
It it possible to get OTA with root and xposed? Should i uninstall xposed and unroot device?(how to unroot? uncheck Enable superuser?)
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Hi
As long as you have the latest Systemless root and SU by Chainfire (being around for months) you did not modified the system files of your phone and unroot (from SuperSU) yes is possible
Some people said is possible also no unroot necessary if you just fake system status
MAX 404 said:
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As long as you have the latest Systemless root and SU by Chainfire (being around for months) you did not modified the system files of your phone and unroot (from SuperSU) yes is possible
Some people said is possible also no unroot necessary if you just fake system status
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Thank you. So just uninstall xposed and unroot(or not) and i`m good.
How about TWRP recovery? To install Xposed i should use TWRP to flash it(or could i use FlashFire only?)
Also should i defrost all system apps that i froze them?
farid993 said:
Thank you. So just uninstall xposed and unroot(or not) and i`m good.
How about TWRP recovery? To install Xposed i should use TWRP to flash it(or could i use FlashFire only?)
Also should i defrost all system apps that i froze them?
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Hi
Option 1 Systemless root and systemless SuperSu ( Chainfire) no xposed (rovo89) , no system modification, no R/W systems, no TWRP , unroot from SuperSu , OTA possible
Option 1.1 use Flashfire guide here
Option 2 ( have not tested it) fake system status
In my experience trying to return Custom status to Official after rooting, even after removing root, is near impossible
That said, with this new systemless root, I haven't tried, but if you have altered any system files, which is generally what people use root for (Adblocking = Hosts file mod etc) then it won't return to Official unless you flash stock over the top again
Not seen this new status spoofer until now, be interested to see if that works
Thanks guys
So i guess with xposed it is impossible to get OTA, because to fake system status we need xposed but to get OTA we need to uninstall xposed.
Also *Detection* is right. We root our device to alter system.
So at the end we need download whole ~2gb firmware(flash, root, xposed, all other changing system thing again) for 20-30mb monthly security patch
farid993 said:
Thanks guys
So i guess with xposed it is impossible to get OTA, because to fake system status we need xposed but to get OTA we need to uninstall xposed.
Also *Detection* is right. We root our device to alter system.
So at the end we need download whole ~2gb firmware(flash, root, xposed, all other changing system thing again) for 20-30mb monthly security patch
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Basically yep, unless you're not bothered about the security update and just wait for feature/performance updates
With my S5 I used to update every update, download the new ROM, flash with ODIN, TWRP > Root > Mod
Doesn't take too long tbh
*Detection* said:
In my experience trying to return Custom status to Official after rooting, even after removing root, is near impossible
That said, with this new systemless root, I haven't tried, but if you have altered any system files, which is generally what people use root for (Adblocking = Hosts file mod etc) then it won't return to Official unless you flash stock over the top again
Not seen this new status spoofer until now, be interested to see if that works
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farid993 said:
Thanks guys
So i guess with xposed it is impossible to get OTA, because to fake system status we need xposed but to get OTA we need to uninstall xposed.
Also *Detection* is right. We root our device to alter system.
So at the end we need download whole ~2gb firmware(flash, root, xposed, all other changing system thing again) for 20-30mb monthly security patch
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*Detection* said:
Basically yep, unless you're not bothered about the security update and just wait for feature/performance updates
With my S5 I used to update every update, download the new ROM, flash with ODIN, TWRP > Root > Mod
Doesn't take too long tbh
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+ 1 guys
After rooting is very hard to keep system "clean" enough ....if you meet the conditions is possible.....but to my by far *Detection* suggestion is easier...
status spoofer i have not tried ( I have a custom rom) ......
I am playing with different rom from many years but recently I am not able to root using SuperSU in a custom ROM (Stock Rom is finely rooted!)
These custom roms are not new and I used to have root in them earlier but now SuperSU is not showing up even after flashing from Recovery!!!
I am getting this error in Recovery while flashing:
SuperSU Boot Image Patcher
Patching Boot Image,
Boot Image not found, aborting!
Life is really bad without root.
(KingRoot is what I am using right now but I want SuperSU!)
Please come up with all kind of solutions I really need it!
Abhinay Pandey said:
I am playing with different rom from many years but recently I am not able to root using SuperSU in a custom ROM (Stock Rom is finely rooted!)
These custom roms are not new and I used to have root in them earlier but now SuperSU is not showing up even after flashing from Recovery!!!
I am getting this error in Recovery while flashing:
SuperSU Boot Image Patcher
Patching Boot Image,
Boot Image not found, aborting!
Life is really bad without root.
(KingRoot is what I am using right now but I want SuperSU!)
Please come up with all kind of solutions I really need it!
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Logs will be critical in giving leads.
Just finished responding one on SuperSu here. (Got some references in there)
Questions:
1) "Tried flashing SuperSu from recovery". How about installing from Google Store?
2) Are the Recovery and SuperSu of the latest versions?
SR1-SuperSU-v2.82-SR1-20170608224931.zip
Google Store
3) Is the device is rooted? (Read that you are using KingRoot as of now, bear in mind uninstalling it revokes the root permissions just the way it does for SuperSu - you may want to refer the NOTICE on the Google Store link for SuperSu)
Btw the author has some more logs for you to zero in
Reference/s:
[APP][4.3+][ROOT][2016.12.10] LiveBoot (Logcat/Dmesg Boot Animation) v1.50
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/liveboot-t2976189
For known issues you may get help online, for rest you may find solace by reaching the SuperSu Guru, though you may not get any answers on PM as the Notice says.
Hope this helps.
Finally, Thank if you feel helped.
Please add my device for rooting. Is Micromax A106
Abhinay Pandey said:
I am playing with different rom from many years but recently I am not able to root using SuperSU in a custom ROM (Stock Rom is finely rooted!)
These custom roms are not new and I used to have root in them earlier but now SuperSU is not showing up even after flashing from Recovery!!!
I am getting this error in Recovery while flashing:
SuperSU Boot Image Patcher
Patching Boot Image,
Boot Image not found, aborting!
Life is really bad without root.
(KingRoot is what I am using right now but I want SuperSU!)
Please come up with all kind of solutions I really need it!
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why don't you use magisk it worked for me in all custom ROMs and its like super su
Abhisekh sahoo said:
why don't you use magisk it worked for me in all custom ROMs and its like super su
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can you tell me how to use magisk in MMX A106? I"m a noob