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[Q] A700 rooting question

Hi guys,
I've searched everywhere and can't get a definitive answer on this so here goes -
I'm a noob when it comes to Android, having recently defected from being an Apple Disciple (I got hacked off with iTunes and bored in general with the Daycare Centre which is iOS) and have recently acquired an Acer A700 tablet.
I have installed the JB update OTA and everything is working fine and am chomping at the bit to get it booted, but most of the posts I have read regarding unlocking the bootloader and rooting it relate to ICS.
My questions are -
Does the bootloader process apply regardless of Firmware? (Are there different versions for different Firmwares)
Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent tutorial on how to do this?
What happens regarding a future update? Do I have to revert back to stock and update from there or can i jump from one ROM to another? (I'm assuming that I can't use the OTA updates any more)
Sorry for the long OP and thanks in advance for your answers.

ianrobbie said:
Hi guys,
I've searched everywhere and can't get a definitive answer on this so here goes -
I'm a noob when it comes to Android, having recently defected from being an Apple Disciple (I got hacked off with iTunes and bored in general with the Daycare Centre which is iOS) and have recently acquired an Acer A700 tablet.
I have installed the JB update OTA and everything is working fine and am chomping at the bit to get it booted, but most of the posts I have read regarding unlocking the bootloader and rooting it relate to ICS.
My questions are -
Does the bootloader process apply regardless of Firmware? (Are there different versions for different Firmwares)
Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent tutorial on how to do this?
What happens regarding a future update? Do I have to revert back to stock and update from there or can i jump from one ROM to another? (I'm assuming that I can't use the OTA updates any more)
Sorry for the long OP and thanks in advance for your answers.
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No problem. Seeing you are on JB, then you have a JB bootloader.
You need to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953917
And download Vorbeths easyroot2.0. It's for the 700.
You have to unlock your bootloader first, which shouldn't be an issue for you. Easy instructions for that.
Then download his package to a folder on your PC. (not sure, but you may have to download each file individually) Open a command window (shift & right mouse click) and type in whatever his instructions say. Should be painless.
Make sure USB Debugging is turned on first in your tablet (Settings/Developer Options/USB Debugging), and make sure you have the Acer Drivers installed on your PC.
Then connect, wait 30 seconds, and run his batch file.
You should be ok.
MD
Oh yes, one more thing, once you unlock your bootloader, chances are you will not be able to get OTA. And the only way to re-lock the bootloader is to install a stock rom.

Thanks!
Thanks for the reply. I am now the owner of a fully rooted A700!
Had a few issues during unlocking the bootloader. That thing timeouts quick! Also, didn't realise you had to run the .bat file while the tablet was on the Bootloader USB protocol screen. I thought you had to wait until it booted fully into JB.
Anyway, took the plunge and thanks again for your help.

ianrobbie said:
Thanks for the reply. I am now the owner of a fully rooted A700!
Had a few issues during unlocking the bootloader. That thing timeouts quick! Also, didn't realise you had to run the .bat file while the tablet was on the Bootloader USB protocol screen. I thought you had to wait until it booted fully into JB.
Anyway, took the plunge and thanks again for your help.
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No problem. I thought I mentioned it timed out in about 5 seconds These days I don't remember much
Yeah, I haven't looked at Vorbeth's script, so I don't know which screen he launches it from. With mine for the 701, you can be when the tab is running normal. No difference in the end result though
Happy Hunting!
MD

One last question - do I have to install Clockwork Recovery for re-flashing the stock images or is it just a case of renaming it update. zip and putting it on an SD Card? Any chance you can point me in the right direction of the most recent/stable build? Is it easy to install?
Thanks again.
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ianrobbie said:
One last question - do I have to install Clockwork Recovery for re-flashing the stock images or is it just a case of renaming it update. zip and putting it on an SD Card? Any chance you can point me in the right direction of the most recent/stable build? Is it easy to install?
Thanks again.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
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Well, this is a trouble spot.
If you wish to install a custom rom, then you will need to install CWM. The most recent version.
If you want to try your luck at installing a stock rom, my opinion, is to leave the stock recovery inplace. I haven't had luck in installing stock update.zips, as Acer has made them very specific. So I can't be much help to you in that.
However, you can always flash back to CWM or a stock JB recovery pretty easy. Personally, unless you plan on flashing a custom, I would just leave the stock recovery.
MD
Sometimes "leaked" update appear here in the forums. They are unofficial. And you never know if they improve things, or make things worse. So be careful.

Moscow Desire said:
Well, this is a trouble spot.
If you wish to install a custom rom, then you will need to install CWM. The most recent version.
If you want to try your luck at installing a stock rom, my opinion, is to leave the stock recovery inplace. I haven't had luck in installing stock update.zips, as Acer has made them very specific. So I can't be much help to you in that.
However, you can always flash back to CWM or a stock JB recovery pretty easy. Personally, unless you plan on flashing a custom, I would just leave the stock recovery.
MD
Sometimes "leaked" update appear here in the forums. They are unofficial. And you never know if they improve things, or make things worse. So be careful.
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So, just for future reference, how would I go about re-flashing the stock image? I'm assuming it's saved on the tablet in a separate partition?
I've decided to stick with the stock rooted ROM but would like to know how to re-flash for when Key Lime Pie and future updates are released.
And, seeing as how you haven't steered me wrong so far, I though I'd pick your brains one last time.
Hope you don't mind!

Dangers of switching roms? (Verizon)

I have the xt926, and I'm interested in flashing a new ROM. The only thing that worries me is when I trade in the phone for a new one in december, will they not accept it if it's not in factory state? Is it possible to get it exactly the way it was when it arrived?
Also, where are the basic instructions for installing a ROM on KK? I rooted and unlocked the bl, but now I'm unsure what to do.... Do I need a recovery? A specific recovery? How do I use one? Should I follow the CM11 instructions here on XDA, or on the CM11 website?
It seems like everything is fragmented and the dev section is a mess....

The only thing you can't undo is the bootloader unlock. So if they're not going to take it because of that your already too late. Might as well enjoy the ride. There are several good guides on these forums for roming it. Step one learn to install a custom recovery
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53245455

[Q] Upgrade to lollipop

I know there's still speculation about whether we're even getting the images today, but I want to be prepared.
I'm wondering about the best way for me to upgrade to lollipop. I've been searching the Internet all morning but I've been getting conflicting answers, so I want to clarify once and for all here...
I'm currently running kitkat 4.4.4 with the bootloader unlocked, clockworkmod installed, and root access gained. I'd like to avoid using toolkits if possible, and I'd hopefully like to avoid wiping all my data. I don't mind rerooting if I lose root, since that should be easy enough on a nexus device. I've read that rooted phones won't get an ota update, which is fine because I'd rather get it sooner than that anyways from Google's developer download page. I've also read that an upgrade from kitkat to lollipop definitely requires a wipe, but I figure there has to be a way around that. Can I use adb or fastboot? Or clockworkmod? Will these wipe the device? What are my options?
Thanks so much!

if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted version, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!

simms22 said:
if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted versiin, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!
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I'll write a thread tonight.

Please use the dedicated android L thread
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So you can no longer root p900?

I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.

rirawin said:
I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.
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Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.

nrage23 said:
Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.
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Thanks, so no issues with rooting with latest firmware?.

http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.

rirawin said:
http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.
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I love how that guide says all variants and then makes no mention of the P907. I would love to be able to use a custom recovery. Unless the P907 falls under the LTE moniker even though the model number is different?

Yes, TWRP works with P900
I went through this a week ago (with some help) and once I figured out how to get TWRP 2.8 to flash using Odin the process of rooting and installing a custom rom was easy. There is a thread a little lower on this forum that goes through the process.
Keith

do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?

rirawin said:
do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?
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I can't post a link but the thread is in this forum. I have not unrooted but there are several threads that mention going back to stock.

Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/

okay
rirawin said:
Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/
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I do not have enough posts to link an email. About three weeks ago I had the same question. The thread is in this forum on page 3, 5 or so messages down. I am the op, stedmakr. Gastrom answered the thread, provided a link and helped me root the p900 and install his rom (its excellent). Sorry I can't post links. Page 3 of this forum.
Keith

http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...reliable-root-method-p900-build-bnk1-t2986600
I still don't quite understand, I just like to root to get sd card fix

Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
Wytaptalkowane na notatniku

Peri Noid said:
Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Nope, no way to avoid Knox trip.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk

can anyone confirm please, is this the method to root:
https://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
So after I done that, I update su user and then I install sdfix is that right?.

anyone please?

Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.

muzzy996 said:
Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.
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Well said mate! Well said.
If someone's gonna root their tablet, especially one of this caliber & price point. Then they should know how to recover it back to stock on their own. Concerning the tripping of Knox, who cares! Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM. That topic has been discussed to death in another thread. If your going to root this thing, then root it and live on! LoL ?
Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!
If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button.

Android.Ninja said:
Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM.
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Not here in Poland...

Razr hd downgrade to jb stock firmware

HELLO GUYS
i really need help with my Razr HD , i want to downgrade from kitkat 4.4.2 to jelly bean since the kikat update caused nothing but trouble to me , i am newbie , so please someone help me to downgrade my phone to 4.1.2 step by step and make it simple as possible .
i have RSD lite 6.1 , tried to flash on fastboot mode , got failed flashing process 5/27 error ,
all drivers are installed
i have stock firmware 4.1.1 , 4.1.2 , 4.4.2 xlm files
must mention that my system version is on 183.46.15XT926
Developers mode activated , USB Debugging checked
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You cannot downgrade from 183.46.15 unless you unlocked your bootloader before upgrading to 183.46.15.
You cannot now unlock your bootloader if you have 183.46.15.
What trouble are you having with KitKat? You can get root, and I then installed Nova Launcher, Titanium Backup, and Xposed Framework with GravityBox to customize things the way I like them.

Spott07 said:
You cannot downgrade from 183.46.15 unless you unlocked your bootloader before upgrading to 183.46.15.
You cannot now unlock your bootloader if you have 183.46.15.
What trouble are you having with KitKat? You can get root, and I then installed Nova Launcher, Titanium Backup, and Xposed Framework with GravityBox to customize things the way I like them.
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first thank you for replying to me , My bluetooth is gone , i can't seem to connect or send a file to any device
and now so is my wifi , it says saved but not connected and i know it's not router issue because others can connect to the same router with no problem at all

i have Droid razr hd toolkit 5.0 , couldn't unlock my bootloader with it , also couldn't downgrade to jb
how can i root my device using this toolkit with my bootloader still locked ? any instructions please !

First, I'd try reflashing the stock firmware (183.46.15) and see if that fixes your Bluetooth and WiFi problems. I use RSD Lite and it works well. I know the stock firmware works fine on this phone, that's the same configuration I'm using.
To get root, you can either use the "hydrogen peroxide" method, or kingroot. I'd get your radio problems straightened out first before worrying about root.

Spott07 said:
First, I'd try reflashing the stock firmware (183.46.15) and see if that fixes your Bluetooth and WiFi problems. I use RSD Lite and it works well. I know the stock firmware works fine on this phone, that's the same configuration I'm using.
To get root, you can either use the "hydrogen peroxide" method, or kingroot. I'd get your radio problems straightened out first before worrying about root.
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i tired flashing the stock firmware , but i get this error on the 5th step
i rooted my device , installed superuser , now i am having issue with cmw recovery image
i can't install it on the device

You have to comment a couple of lines out of the install package to get the firmware to flash. There's details in the hydrogen peroxide instructional thread, down where it takes about upgrading from 182.46.15 to 183.46.15.
You can't really install an effective custom recovery (like CWM) with a locked bootloader.
What on earth are you trying to accomplish? If you're trying to fix your WiFi and Bluetooth problems, then both getting root and installing a crippled recovery isn't going to get you there very well. Focus on reflashing the stock firmware first, then come back to root (and don't even waste your time with that broken CWM and the deodexed ROM, they don't gain you anything, and cause more problems than they solve. I soft-bricked my phone three times trying to get anything out of them. The only way to recover from that was to....wait for it....reflash the stock firmware. Notice a pattern here?)

Spott07 said:
You have to comment a couple of lines out of the install package to get the firmware to flash. There's details in the hydrogen peroxide instructional thread, down where it takes about upgrading from 182.46.15 to 183.46.15.
You can't really install an effective custom recovery (like CWM) with a locked bootloader.
What on earth are you trying to accomplish? If you're trying to fix your WiFi and Bluetooth problems, then both getting root and installing a crippled recovery isn't going to get you there very well. Focus on reflashing the stock firmware first, then come back to root (and don't even waste your time with that broken CWM and the deodexed ROM, they don't gain you anything, and cause more problems than they solve. I soft-bricked my phone three times trying to get anything out of them. The only way to recover from that was to....wait for it....reflash the stock firmware. Notice a pattern here?)
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i am trying to install cm 12 custom rom , since flashing the stock failed many times
i used motoeclipse to unlock the bootloader after rooting , don't know if it works or not
now i am giving a shot at custom roms

You cannot unlock the bootloader of 183.46.15. You cannot install custom ROMs, or even older stock ROMs, with a locked bootloader.
You did not unlock the bootloader, and you're lucky you didn't brick your phone trying.
Sorry, but with that phone and that firmware, there's just no way that anyone's discovered to unlock it (and it's been that way so long that very few are even trying any more).
That rudimentary CWM that's available is not designed for your phone, is only barely compatible, will not allow you to flash custom ROMs, and that fact is stated boldly and repeatedly in the post where you found it. You're stuck with a very specific Motorola 4.4.2 kernel in the bootloader and you can't change it, and if you install a ROM that's not perfectly compatible with it (that is, anything other than the 183.46.15 firmware) you'll end up with a phone that won't boot.
You might be "giving it a shot" but your magazine's full of blank ammo.
You must slow down and read carefully before you brick your phone, because you've already missed a lot of important information that you'll need to keep you out of trouble.
Also, if you can't figure out how to flash a stock ROM, you're not qualified to pursue custom ROMs even if you could. What do you think happens if a flash fails and you're stuck with a soft-brick? The only way out of that is to flash a stock ROM and start over.
You have two options at this point: Either accept your phone the way it is without Bluetooth and WiFi, or do the research necessary to learn how to reflash the stock ROM and fix your problem. Here's a hint: I know exactly why your flash attempts failed, and it's quite easy to fix it, and I've already told you where to find the information to do so, in a previous post.
Now you're on your own, as I probably cannot help you any more.

how can i get pass the 5th step is rsd ?
i wanna go back to the same stock firmware4.4.2 or downgrade to 4.1.2 but i cant

sorry sir for bothering you , i am just doing researches haven't done anything passed the root
my phone status now : rooted with superuser , stock recovery still in
bootloader still locked
i have heard of this tool DROID_RAZR_HD_Utility_1.41_KK here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474393
i don't know what to do ?

You must slow down and read carefully. Especially the first paragraph of post #7.
It's not useful to do research if you don't read the results.

Spott07 said:
You must slow down and read carefully. Especially the first paragraph of post #7.
It's not useful to do research if you don't read the results.
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thanks , just to let you know , i have found the same stock firmware and flashed successfully , still with wifi and bluetooth issues
i have been told that downgrading to jelly bean will sort all my issues
waiting for advice , don't know what to do next

I don't know who told you that downgrading to JB will help you, but they're wrong, because 1) it's impossible for you to downgrade, and 2) the KK firmware works quite well with very few bugs.
Perhaps the wireless chip inside your phone is damaged. Does the GPS work?
Perhaps the wireless service is disabled in the settings. Do you have airplane mode turned on? Do you have WiFi and Bluetooth disabled? Have you tried deleting or "forgetting" your WiFi connection, and then re-entering it again from the beginning?

i tried all of this , airplane mode , wifi advanced settings , everything
what if i downgraded the kernel from 15 to 10 , would i be able to unlock my bootloader and downgrade to jelly bean ?

You cannot downgrade the kernel. It's within the locked bootloader. I told you that in post #9.
You cannot unlock the bootloader on this phone. End of story. Hundreds of the best developers have tried every possibility they could think of, and have given up.
Perhaps some miracle will occur and someone will find a way, but don't count on it. This phone is old and those with the proper skills have moved on to newer, better things. As of right now, and for the foreseeable future, it is impossible.
Also, you never answered whether your GPS works.

flashed back to stock , now my wifi works outta nowhere

Sorry, I got confused about the conversation, I'll explain below.

it's not like that , first i followed your instructions and flashed the stock 183.46.15 , when nothing worked then i flashed the modified 183.46.10 suddenly wifi started to pick up signals , then drops every once and a while
i have no issues with rooting , i can root the device in minutes which i have

Sorry for being so rude earlier, I got confused.
I usually use the Tapatalk app to read these forums, but right now the login server is down, so I had to log in on the website. When I looked on the website, the screwy timestamps appeared to indicate that you had replied a couple hours ago, so I clicked on the link. (The timestamp options are terribly difficult to find, so I hadn't corrected them for my timezone, and then forgot that fact.) Instead of taking me to the last post in the thread, it displayed the first page of 10 posts (I'm used to seeing 50/page with Tapatalk) and I saw your (old) post at the bottom asking how to get the firmware to flash with RSD. At that point I got frustrated and failed to check any farther, and responded as if that were another repetitious request for the same information.
So, between the Tapatalk login server, the awkward behavior of this site, and my frustration and impatience, I responded very badly.
You didn't deserve that response, and I'm sorry.
I don't know why re-flashing the 183.46.15 firmware didn't work, it has few bugs and is pretty stable for everyone who's stuck with it. I don't know anything about any "modified 183.46.10" firmware that could be flashed on our phones, where did you find that? Are you referring to this? If so, it's great that it works, but it's risky and certainly won't permit you to unlock your bootloader.
Scott