Late last year, with my HTC M8, I remember there was a systemless root SuperSU version that allowed me to have a stock rooted ROM and still use Android Pay. I read yesterday there is an experimental version of Xposed that is systemless and lets you use Android Pay with one reboot to turn Xposed off and no need to rebuild the app cache when turning it back on. Doubt there is a Samsung version of that yet but may come eventually. My question is if anyone has tried a stock ROM (or ordin to stock), systemless root, and been able to use Android Pay?
Yes. I am using stock LP with systemless root and Android Pay working perfectly.
theophile2 said:
Yes. I am using stock LP with systemless root and Android Pay working perfectly.
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I went ahead an odin'd back to stock MM and then took the OTA update to latest. Then used odin to flash TWRP, twrp-3.0.2-0-M-nobleltespr.tar. Booted in recovery and flashed SuperSU, BETA-SuperSU-v2.74-2-20160519174328. Once that all was done I checked if my phone would still pass the SafetyNet check that Android Pay uses and it passed! So systemless root and stock android MM. Then I went ahead and tried the new systemless version of Xposed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268 It flashed and works fine. I can disable xposed, reboot, and then I still pass the SafetyNet check (so pay should work but haven't tried yet). Enabling Xposed and rebooting is super quick and doesn't require a rebuild of the apps like it used to. I'm not sure what type of system modifications may cause the SafetyNet app to fail so all I've done so far is remove Voicemail (I use Google Voice) and have AdAway installed to block ads. I have the xTouchWiz, CrappaLinks, YouTube Ad Away, and Amplify Xposed modules installed and working.
Let me see if I understand this correctly. You're rooted without tripping knox?
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Let me see if I understand this correctly. You're rooted without tripping knox?
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Definitely not! I haven't heard of a single person being able to root and not trip knox. I'm talking about Android Pay which doesn't care about Knox. Samsung Pay will not work.
I did make a purchase the other day with Android Pay too. Just needed to disable systemless xposed in the app, reboot, and then pay worked fine
Nice...Cool. is there a write-up anywhere on how you guys did this?
As for Samsung pay, I use Capital One and USAA. Neither of these guys participate...so I'm SOL and considering tripping knox. I can't use either of the secure payment methods.
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Nice...Cool. is there a write-up anywhere on how you guys did this?
As for Samsung pay, I use Capital One and USAA. Neither of these guys participate...so I'm SOL and considering tripping knox. I can't use either of the secure payment methods.
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I pretty much described how I did it above. Just used odin to put the stock .tar on, then took OTA updates, then installed TWRP via ODIN, then SuperSU, and eventually systemless Xposed. All the info is around the sprint forum for more details on each step. Since you're already stock you can probably just skip right to TWRP. That step will trip knox!
For whatever it's worth, I found that I had to delete /su/xbin_bind before Android Pay would work. Here are the steps that worked for me:
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For those who are confused, here are my steps for using Android Pay while rooted.
1. I reset my phone to factory defaults by installing all original software.
2. Unlocked the boot loader.
3. Installed TWRP, but kept it read only.
4. Installed Beta Super User 2.67
5. Through Android terminal after entering su and allowing terminal emulator root access:
6. rm -r /su/xbin_bind
7. chmod 751 /su/bin
Android Pay works, root is still active. Thanks all.
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Doing it this way, Android Pay "just works" with root, no need to "unroot" or reboot or anything. Note, however, that I do not have Xposed installed, and henderjr is right that Android Pay will quit working with normal Xposed, and if you use systemless Xposed, you have to disable it before Android Pay will work.
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For whatever it's worth, I found that I had to delete /su/xbin_bind before Android Pay would work. Here are the steps that worked for me:
Doing it this way, Android Pay "just works" with root, no need to "unroot" or reboot or anything. Note, however, that I do not have Xposed installed, and henderjr is right that Android Pay will quit working with normal Xposed, and if you use systemless Xposed, you have to disable it before Android Pay will work.
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Yep all correct except newest SuperSU doesn't need any of those extra steps (xbin_bind deleted or chmod).
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will this work for note 5 from us cellular?
SM-N900R4 (OJ5)
i talked to bigbiff in #twrp on freenode and he said probably can use the sprint note 5 twrp for the us cellular n5.
this was the case for the note 3 from us cellular too. had to use the sprint twrp.
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will this work for note 5 from us cellular?
SM-N900R4 (OJ5)
i talked to bigbiff in #twrp on freenode and he said probably can use the sprint note 5 twrp for the us cellular n5.
this was the case for the note 3 from us cellular too. had to use the sprint twrp.
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I tend to follow most posts in the Sprint Note 5 forum and haven't seen anyone say they tried or used Sprint TWRP on a US Cellular version so I really can't say. Give it a try maybe? I'd think the worst case scenario is you need to Odin back to stock. Not an expert though so that be on you if it bricked. For sure I'd get a stock tar available before you try.
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I tend to follow most posts in the Sprint Note 5 forum and haven't seen anyone say they tried or used Sprint TWRP on a US Cellular version so I really can't say. Give it a try maybe? I'd think the worst case scenario is you need to Odin back to stock. Not an expert though so that be on you if it bricked. For sure I'd get a stock tar available before you try.
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yea im pretty sure us cellular note 5 users can use twrp that is sprints.
i did find a twrp us cellular recovery for PD6 (im on PE1 now) i might download PD6 stock firmware then flash that us cellular twrp recovery but worried about what kind of root to do
i dont think i want to perm disable samsung pay and i think if i use SuperSU (systemless root) that i might be able to save it.
can anyone confirm this?
to my understanding systemless root means i dont need to flash a custom kernel?
If you flash twrp samsung pay will never work again for you
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So I just got the Note Pro like a week or two ago, I generally always root my devices, but I've seen lots of reports of random reboots. Does removing all of the Knox apps fix that?
So, do you guys think it's worth rooting? I've never had a Samsung device, so I know I'm going to have to read up on Odin and Kies a bit, but are there any easy step-by-step tutorials posted around anywhere?
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So I just got the Note Pro like a week or two ago, I generally always root my devices, but I've seen lots of reports of random reboots. Does removing all of the Knox apps fix that?
So, do you guys think it's worth rooting? I've never had a Samsung device, so I know I'm going to have to read up on Odin and Kies a bit, but are there any easy step-by-step tutorials posted around anywhere?
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It was definitely worth it for me just to have X posed installed and be able to use the GravityBox module along with some Note specific mods. Especially useful is the mod to allow any apps to be multi-window pop up apps.
l had to downgrade to an earlier build because Samsung patched the Towelroot exploit earlier this year. That required using Odin which isn't difficult at all to use. Once I downgraded the Towel root app worked perfectly and I was able to install Supersd from Chainfire. There is a debloat script you can run in Terminal Emulator and it will disable all the Knox stuff but also gives you individual options to de bloat other apps in the stock AT&T TW Rom. I've been running for a couple of weeks with no problems whatsoever.
Here's the link to the Odin files l used to downgrade. The Odin application to use is in post # 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...rsion-news-t2850564/post54879249#post54879249
Then get towel root app at towelroot.com and install → run.
And here is the debloat script to use. Just make sure you get the ATT one at the end of the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797540
Thanks for the info and links... I may break down and just do it, although I've been debating waiting for the Lollipop update.
I can always flash back to stock later, right?
The links he posted are stock, just an earlier build that towelroot works with. You should be able to go into settings and run "check for updates" when lollipop is released from AT&T.
You guys are awesome, thanks for the info. Just rooted, debloating now. Any suggestions on the best Xposed modules to use? Anything else I should install?
Awesome! I'll be giving this a go once I get home. I just picked up my note pro last weekend. Only complaint is not being able to multiwindow every app so this is perfect!
Did you guys install TWRP? If so, did you use Odin?
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Did you guys install TWRP? If so, did you use Odin?
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You're rooted but the bootloader is still locked and there is no way to unlock it at this time. Therefore no TWRP or custom ROMs.
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You guys are awesome, thanks for the info. Just rooted, debloating now. Any suggestions on the best Xposed modules to use? Anything else I should install?
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GravityBox gives you the most customization options. You can get Multi Window Manager from the Play store and it works with Xposed to give you multi window for any app. Those are the two I'm using so far bit have had mine for only a few weeks.
The end of the first post has a few good xposed modules to try, http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/rom-original-stock-debloated-stock-t2860069 And I've attached an image of the ones I like.
Hangouts?
After downgrade....does hangouts work for video calling?
help!
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It was definitely worth it for me just to have X posed installed and be able to use the GravityBox module along with some Note specific mods. Especially useful is the mod to allow any apps to be multi-window pop up apps.
l had to downgrade to an earlier build because Samsung patched the Towelroot exploit earlier this year. That required using Odin which isn't difficult at all to use. Once I downgraded the Towel root app worked perfectly and I was able to install Supersd from Chainfire. There is a debloat script you can run in Terminal Emulator and it will disable all the Knox stuff but also gives you individual options to de bloat other apps in the stock AT&T TW Rom. I've been running for a couple of weeks with no problems whatsoever.
Here's the link to the Odin files l used to downgrade. The Odin application to use is in post # 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...rsion-news-t2850564/post54879249#post54879249
Then get towel root app at towelroot.com and install → run.
And here is the debloat script to use. Just make sure you get the ATT one at the end of the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797540
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Hello, my first time posting of the forums.. I followed all these steps except the last step before I found this thread, and allowed the forced Ota update to screw up my root... now I can't access custom recovery mode to reinstall the old firmware. Tablet works fine, but no root and no chromecast... Not sure if you can use odin in stock recovery mode.. Is there a way to install firmware you gave the link by SD card so I can reroot? Thanks in advance!
No Odin is the only way. You can access recovery by turning the tablet on while holding down vol down and the home button.
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No Odin is the only way. You can access recovery by turning the tablet on while holding down vol down and the home button.
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I'm such an idiot.. I figured that out right after I made this post.. Everything is good to go.. The only issue I'm having now is that even after debloating I'm still getting the ota update ... Not sure if I need to disable all bloatware.. I kept some of the apps like YouTube enabled but disabled the ATT ones and a few others from what I can remember .. Any suggestions on how to stop the ota update ?
Will this trip Knox and device status?
dsEVOlve said:
It was definitely worth it for me just to have X posed installed and be able to use the GravityBox module along with some Note specific mods. Especially useful is the mod to allow any apps to be multi-window pop up apps.
l had to downgrade to an earlier build because Samsung patched the Towelroot exploit earlier this year. That required using Odin which isn't difficult at all to use. Once I downgraded the Towel root app worked perfectly and I was able to install Supersd from Chainfire. There is a debloat script you can run in Terminal Emulator and it will disable all the Knox stuff but also gives you individual options to de bloat other apps in the stock AT&T TW Rom. I've been running for a couple of weeks with no problems whatsoever.
Here's the link to the Odin files l used to downgrade. The Odin application to use is in post # 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...rsion-news-t2850564/post54879249#post54879249
Then get towel root app at towelroot.com and install → run.
And here is the debloat script to use. Just make sure you get the ATT one at the end of the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797540
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Quick question about this procedure: if I use oden to downgrade my tablet from NK2 to ND7, will my device status change from original to custom?
The purpose for this is to network unlock my tablet. I sent in my tablet for warranty repair due to the blue screen of death. They replaced the main board and reflashed the os with NK2. I've had my tablet back for 2 weeks but it came back network locked. It had been previously unlocked by a seller prior to purchase/arrival in January. I was using my T-Mobile tablet sim with the tablet which worked great.
I've tried sim network unlock codes from various sources, the code is always the same regardless of the source, with no success. I'm working with 2 theories as to what occurred at the repair center: they didn't reinstall the LTE modem properly or the flash messed up ability to successfully network unlock. If I can get the tablet to network unlock then I'll continue with the root because having the capability to use multiwindow for all apps with xposed is great.
So i rooted my s6 thinking that it would be like a jailbreak and i was wrong.. can someone give me a link to a video or some info on how to unroot it. Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3096000
Might be a place to start.
Normally this is something you look at before rooting you device so you know how to if you run into problems
Go into super su app and choose full unroot
I second what krelvinaz said, head over to that thread and start back to stock and start fresh
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Go into super su app and choose full unroot
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I was going to use the SuperSu to do the Full unroot. If I did that, then installed the current Verizon OTA, could I then re-root using pingpong? Or does this OTA disable the ability to root again? I've read so many posts and articles from various sources, some say yes, some say no. The more I dig the more conflicting info I find.
The only reason I rooted in the first place was to swap out the mixer_paths.xml file. I'm curious if the OTA will wipe that moded file out. But that's probably another discussion.
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I rooted first and a day later took ota. After ota pingpong root just needed to "download data" or whatever then root worked fine.
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I rooted first and a day later took ota. After ota pingpong root just needed to "download data" or whatever then root worked fine.
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Really? Bummer, mine isn't taking the update. I've tried several times and it just fails after the download and after the reboot to install. Nothing bad happens after that, it just boots up like normal. Then it harasses me again and again to do the update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61279830
Easy process
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Really? Bummer, mine isn't taking the update. I've tried several times and it just fails after the download and after the reboot to install. Nothing bad happens after that, it just boots up like normal. Then it harasses me again and again to do the update.
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I think what you are talking about is you were rooted and tried to take the Ota and it wouldn't install correct? If that's the case, yeah you have to unroot or Odin the new version then reboot.
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Use the verizon upgrade utility that is on your phone when it's plugged in as an installer. Make sure your battery is charged all the way too.
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I think what you are talking about is you were rooted and tried to take the Ota and it wouldn't install correct? If that's the case, yeah you have to unroot or Odin the new version then reboot.
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Thanks a lot for your help!
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Use the verizon upgrade utility that is on your phone when it's plugged in as an installer. Make sure your battery is charged all the way too.
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That did the trick! Thanks so much. It worked just like it should have. Afterwards I did have to rerun pingpong, but that took about 2 seconds and I'm back to normal now with the update. Thanks a million!
I did that, as I usually do when I sell my phones.... It bricked it and I could reinstall stock.
Unrooting options
To summarize the unrooting options:
1. Unroot with SuperSu - By some reports this method does not work
2. Odin stock rom - Wipes the device and data, ?trips knox?
3. Use the Verizon Update Utility - Upgrades the devices to latest OTA
I am on 5.02 Stock (AOC3), rooted, Knox not tripped.
I am really not interested in wiping my device or updating to the latest OTA.
What I want to do is *temporarily* unroot to see if I can get Android Pay working again.
Has anyone had any luck with method 1 above? If android pay and your credit cards are activated/verified while unrooted, can you then re-root and still have Android Pay work?
I really miss using Android Pay... but not enough to lose root!!!
If you go into the superuser app and click the enable superuser to turn it off you can activate a card with android pay. You won't lose root this way.
I did that with my bank card and once my card was listed in Android pay I reenabled superuser and everything works fine.
I'm also using root cloaker but I don't know if it's needed.
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Awesome!!! That was too easy.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
@dobosininja
Is your android pay still working? I was able to use Android pay for only a short period ~1 day. Now I get the message "This card cannot be used right now" It doesn't matter what card I use or whether SuperSU is enabled. Maybe it is detecting SuperSU itself.
What app / procedure did you use for cloaking? Did it trip your knox?
Thanks!
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Is your android pay still working? I was able to use Android pay for only a short period ~1 day. Now I get the message "This card cannot be used right now" It doesn't matter what card I use or whether SuperSU is enabled. Maybe it is detecting SuperSU itself.
What app / procedure did you use for cloaking? Did it trip your knox?
Thanks!
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Mine is still showing my card being attached, but I have not used it lately.
I am using root cloak plus, but I can't guarantee it works.
My knox is not tripped since I rooted with ping pong that didn't trip it.
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Is your android pay still working? I was able to use Android pay for only a short period ~1 day. Now I get the message "This card cannot be used right now" It doesn't matter what card I use or whether SuperSU is enabled. Maybe it is detecting SuperSU itself.
What app / procedure did you use for cloaking? Did it trip your knox?
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If I'm correct, the Token needs to refresh from time to time. It may be that that process is detecting the root.
I'd try the Root Cloak he mentioned.
Just acquired a Sprint S5 with 6.0.1 and PH3 firmware. I've never had a Sprint device before, I've always used Verizon. What's the procedure for root/bootloader on Sprints version?
You can root the G900P on PH3 with CF-Auto-Root. It WILL trip Knox if not already tripped.
More info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980683
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You can root the G900P on PH3 with CF-Auto-Root. It WILL trip Knox if not already tripped.
More info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980683
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Don't care about Knox, just wanna be able to use my kernel on this phone.
The correct version of CF-Auto-Root to use is available at https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ - just search for G900P. It says the build ID is for PCA but it also worked perfectly for me on PH3.
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The correct version of CF-Auto-Root to use is available at https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ - just search for G900P. It says the build ID is for PCA but it also worked perfectly for me on PH3.
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Is there a way to get twrp on it currently?
After I rooted with CF-Auto-Root, TWRP was easy to install using TWRP Manager from the Play store.
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After I rooted with CF-Auto-Root, TWRP was easy to install using TWRP Manager from the Play store.
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Can't I just Odin twrp and install SuperSU through recovery? I'm new to sprint phones, thanks for the help.
CF-Auto-Root installs a version of SuperSu as described by Chainfire at the link in my first post. I suppose you could install TWRP with Odin but I don't think SuperSu will be of any use without root. I'm not really an expert.
Twrp will install the binary on its own, it will say supersu not detected, you'll need to install the apk/app of su. Unrooted ever? Interested to know if the new magisk works for galaxy s5
Sorry to piggy-back, but is there any type of process for unlocking the bootloader? Is the bootloader already unlocked on these phones? I've seen conflicting posts, but they're all old.
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Sorry to piggy-back, but is there any type of process for unlocking the bootloader? Is the bootloader already unlocked on these phones? I've seen conflicting posts, but they're all old.
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Looking for actual unlock as well, I'll post here if I fine something
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Sorry to piggy-back, but is there any type of process for unlocking the bootloader? Is the bootloader already unlocked on these phones? I've seen conflicting posts, but they're all old.
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I haven't tried yet, but it's looking like you should be able to Odin flash twrp, then from there either install root or flash ROMs. But I can't get anyone to confirm for the PH3 update
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I haven't tried yet, but it's looking like you should be able to Odin flash twrp, then from there either install root or flash ROMs. But I can't get anyone to confirm for the PH3 update
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Well, if no one knows I'll give you guys an update when I try it.
Well. We're going to have to wait a bit longer. The eBay listing for it said it was in "very good condition" and was described as having minor scratches on the sides of the phone. When I got it, it looked like this: http://imgur.com/a/qfywD
I powered it on anyway, thinking maybe I could fix the power charger tab, and put a tempered glass protector on it to cover up the weird issues with the glass. That was, until I tried the capacitive buttons, which didn't work. No lights on them either. Now I'm waiting for the seller to respond to my return request. Friggen rip-off.
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Well. We're going to have to wait a bit longer. The eBay listing for it said it was in "very good condition" and was described as having minor scratches on the sides of the phone. When I got it, it looked like this: http://imgur.com/a/qfywD
I powered it on anyway, thinking maybe I could fix the power charger tab, and put a tempered glass protector on it to cover up the weird issues with the glass. That was, until I tried the capacitive buttons, which didn't work. No lights on them either. Now I'm waiting for the seller to respond to my return request. Friggen rip-off.
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Ouch, looks like it needs a new digitizer. I recommend Swappa instead of ebay.
I had a good experience with ubuyrite or something like that, let me return an s4 that wasn't to my liking, then let me return I t for full price when I wanted an s5
Ok, so I got my new S5, upgraded to PH3, then downloaded CF-Auto-Root from here: https://download.chainfire.eu/408/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-kltespr-kltespr-smg900p.zip
I already had adb configured, so I enabled developer options, then used adb to reboot to the bootloader (download mode). Drivers were auto detected on Windows 10. I opened the bundled version of Odin in the auto-root folder and flashed the bundled tar.md5 file. After the reboot I had SuperSu installed and working. Rebooted back into download mode, then did the same process to flash the TWRP 3.0.2-0 tar from the TWRP website. I'm currently doing a backup and we'll see if I get a working ROM installed today.
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Ok, so I got my new S5, upgraded to PH3, then downloaded CF-Auto-Root from here: https://download.chainfire.eu/408/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-kltespr-kltespr-smg900p.zip
I already had adb configured, so I enabled developer options, then used adb to reboot to the bootloader (download mode). Drivers were auto detected on Windows 10. I opened the bundled version of Odin in the auto-root folder and flashed the bundled tar.md5 file. After the reboot I had SuperSu installed and working. Rebooted back into download mode, then did the same process to flash the TWRP 3.0.2-0 tar from the TWRP website. I'm currently doing a backup and we'll see if I get a working ROM installed today.
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Is ph3 marshmallow? If you're bored try to go back to LP? I'm interested to know if it's possible. Returning to kitkat is blocked on the sprint s5s once at lollipop, I was wondering if marshmallow did the same
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Is ph3 marshmallow? If you're bored try to go back to LP? I'm interested to know if it's possible. Returning to kitkat is blocked on the sprint s5s once at lollipop, I was wondering if marshmallow did the same
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Yeah, PH3 is the latest version of MM. Are you wanting me to Odin back to LP, or just install an LP based stock ROM?
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Yeah, PH3 is the latest version of MM. Are you wanting me to Odin back to LP, or just install an LP based stock ROM?
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Odin or I was wondering if twrp would bring it back, you don't have to, I just remember kit Kat getting blocked when lollipop came out.
If someone roots, I have heard that many apps stop working. My question is, if the device is then unrooted, will those apps still work considering the fact that knox will remain tripped? I'm not referring to Samsung Pay, but rather apps from the playstore.
Yes, using magisk you can run all of the applications...
Few may need workaround but possible
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Yes, using magisk you can run all of the applications...
Few may need workaround but possible
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Right, but after unrooting will the apps work as normal? Since I cant use magisk if I decide to go back to stock
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Right, but after unrooting will the apps work as normal? Since I cant use magisk if I decide to go back to stock
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Just stay stock if you want all the Samsung pay etc to work.
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Just stay stock if you want all the Samsung pay etc to work.
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I hope I don't sound noob but coming from a 6p, i believe I am. I am new to samsung(even hated the idea of having one just as i hate iphones...) but was a gift and am lovin' it. I read a lot about rooting the s8+. Even got all the tools I found through a walkthrough to achieve root on my device. Many say it's not safe. The steps were flashing twrp through odin, then flashing magisk and the verity flash in twrp.
Hope i didn't tire you yet
Just a couple questions, is it actually safe to root my device? With the knox and whatnot(never had to worry about that before with the 6p)what apps will be affected by root and how to workaround that?
I have a g955fd btw
Thanks in advance
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I hope I don't sound noob but coming from a 6p, i believe I am. I am new to samsung(even hated the idea of having one just as i hate iphones...) but was a gift and am lovin' it. I read a lot about rooting the s8+. Even got all the tools I found through a walkthrough to achieve root on my device. Many say it's not safe. The steps were flashing twrp through odin, then flashing magisk and the verity flash in twrp.
Hope i didn't tire you yet
Just a couple questions, is it actually safe to root my device? With the knox and whatnot(never had to worry about that before with the 6p)what apps will be affected by root and how to workaround that?
I have a g955fd btw
Thanks in advance
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Its safe but once Knox is tripped its tripped for good. As of now there's no way to use certain secure apps if Knox has been tripped. You won't be able to us Secure folders (private mode), S Health and allegedly Samsung pay (although this one works for me on my rooted s8+ with Magisk). There may be some other apps but those are the main ones I can think of.
Besides these apps most if not all other apps root check capabilities can be fooled or bypassed. Apps like Snapchat, Netflix and Poke Go etc.are normally blocked on rooted devices but work just fine with Magisk.
xeathpk said:
Its safe but once Knox is tripped its tripped for good. As of now there's no way to use certain secure apps if Knox has been tripped. You won't be able to us Secure folders (private mode), S Health and allegedly Samsung pay (although this one works for me on my rooted s8+ with Magisk). There may be some other apps but those are the main ones I can think of.
Besides these apps most if not all other apps root check capabilities can be fooled or bypassed. Apps like Snapchat, Netflix and Poke Go etc.are normally blocked on rooted devices but work just fine with Magisk.
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So you recommend going for root?
RockyAJ said:
So you recommend going for root?
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If you dont care about the apps I mentioned or possibly forfeiting your warranty then I don't see why not. Its definitely not required though. There's not too much incentive to root yet until rovo89 gets Xposed to work on android 7.0+, if ever. I just rooted to make full nandroid backups and save myself the trouble of rooting down the road. As of right now there's not too much added functionality in having root access besides a few small-ish tweaks here and there.
I really really miss exposed and I really don't want to root as besides exposed I personally have no need to. I just can't seem to get virtual exposed up and running. Along with not finding and good hot to videos on YT. I get it installed and everything just no luck with actual installing module for some reason. TIA for all help or input
if you root with magisk there is a module for xposed framework but it looks old and it says it won't be updated and I haven't tried it
spart0n said:
if you root with magisk there is a module for xposed framework but it looks old and it says it won't be updated and I haven't tried it
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If I rooted I wouldn't need to run virtual or magisk I could just run Xposed. I just don't want to root as it's easier for OTA without root. Especially seeing how often updates are coming for this phone since it got released.
lg3FTW said:
If I rooted I wouldn't need to run virtual or magisk I could just run Xposed. I just don't want to root as it's easier for OTA without root. Especially seeing how often updates are coming for this phone since it got released.
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I don't see how you can get xposed running without being rooted but I am a noob at this still lol
spart0n said:
I don't see how you can get xposed running without being rooted but I am a noob at this still lol
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It's called virtual Xposed. It's what my post is mostly about getting it running on the phone. No worries we are all rookies one time or another
lg3FTW said:
It's called virtual Xposed. It's what my post is mostly about getting it running on the phone. No worries we are all rookies one time or another
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I understand your desire not to root, but the only downside to rooting wousl be security, and magisk keeps security intact. Edxposed (unoffical Xposed for Android P) works perfectly fine in magisk.10/10 would recommend. Plus magisk has methods for maintaining root after OTAs
Cm4nXD said:
I understand your desire not to root, but the only downside to rooting wousl be security, and magisk keeps security intact. Edxposed (unoffical Xposed for Android P) works perfectly fine in magisk.10/10 would recommend. Plus magisk has methods for maintaining root after OTAs
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I bought the unlocked model for root truly but I haven't rooted a phone in 3 years since my LG g3 and g4 and for some reason I can't seem to wrap my head around easiest and safest way to root the OP7 . Don't want to break it. Nicest phone I've ever owned.
There's a tool by the guy who maintains TWRP for the phone. It's called tool all in one and can unlock and root your phone with a simple GUI. OTAs are almost as simple as stock, just 2gig files instead of ~500mb. It's just download from oxygen updater, settings local install, TWRP retention script, Magisk inactive slot install, reboot
Arden144 said:
There's a tool by the guy who maintains TWRP for the phone. It's called tool all in one and can unlock and root your phone with a simple GUI. OTAs are almost as simple as stock, just 2gig files instead of ~500mb. It's just download from oxygen updater, settings local install, TWRP retention script, Magisk inactive slot install, reboot
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All that seems amazing and I love the tool kits made for other devices heck I remember rooting GB when it was a one click app just to root your device. Miss those days. I'll have to search more as you really lost me with this part.
It's just download from oxygen updater, settings local install, TWRP retention script, Magisk inactive slot install, r
lg3FTW said:
All that seems amazing and I love the tool kits made for other devices heck I remember rooting GB when it was a one click app just to root your device. Miss those days. I'll have to search more as you really lost me with this part.
It's just download from oxygen updater, settings local install, TWRP retention script, Magisk inactive slot install, r
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...fully-upgraded-to-9-5-7-t3937414/post79679795
Have you tried TaiChi? It's an alternative to virtual exposed.
lg3FTW said:
All that seems amazing and I love the tool kits made for other devices heck I remember rooting GB when it was a one click app just to root your device. Miss those days. I'll have to search more as you really lost me with this part.
It's just download from oxygen updater, settings local install, TWRP retention script, Magisk inactive slot install, r
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I don't think you even need the all in one GUI. It's a very simple process.
Kinda Easy to follow Guide
MORE COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE
spart0n said:
if you root with magisk there is a module for xposed framework but it looks old and it says it won't be updated and I haven't tried it
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Yes, but there's EdXposed which is compatible and works flawlessly with Safety net. Not all modules work but that's an Android Pie incompatibility issue, not an Xposed problem.
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lg3FTW said:
I bought the unlocked model for root truly but I haven't rooted a phone in 3 years since my LG g3 and g4 and for some reason I can't seem to wrap my head around easiest and safest way to root the OP7 . Don't want to break it. Nicest phone I've ever owned.
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It was amazingly easy. You just enable developer option, select enable OEM unlocking, back everything up (the phone will get factory reset) and advanced reboot, hook it up to your computer, reboot to bootloader, and then fastboot OEM unlock, reboot your phone to make sure the warning appears and reinitialise the system (since your phone did just get reset), reboot to bootloader, fastboot boot twrp.img, optionally flash the twrp installer, and flash Magisk. Done. Rooted. After installing OTAs, but before rebooting, use the install to slot B option in Magisk manager.
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Yes, but there's EdXposed which is compatible and works flawlessly with Safety net. Not all modules work but that's an Android Pie incompatibility issue, not an Xposed problem.
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It was amazingly easy. You just enable developer option, select enable OEM unlocking, back everything up (the phone will get factory reset) and advanced reboot, hook it up to your computer, reboot to bootloader, and then fastboot OEM unlock, reboot your phone to make sure the warning appears and reinitialise the system (since your phone did just get reset), reboot to bootloader, fastboot boot twrp.img, optionally flash the twrp installer, and flash Magisk. Done. Rooted. After installing OTAs, but before rebooting, use the install to slot B option in Magisk manager.
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Do you know if TMobile one plus 7 pro be rooted as well? I've seen people say yes and people say no. Which carrier do you have?
oregonhynita said:
Do you know if TMobile one plus 7 pro be rooted as well? I've seen people say yes and people say no. Which carrier do you have?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947
oregonhynita said:
Do you know if TMobile one plus 7 pro be rooted as well? I've seen people say yes and people say no. Which carrier do you have?
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I've been told you can, but I don't have one of those. Carriers are mostly irrelevant outside of the US (and I live outside of the US myself). I use the international, carrier agnostic model (1917).