Which is the best battery-saving app 2012?
Mugen power
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Hi,
In my little experience, there is no software that makes alot of diference, normaly what i do is:
disable motion
insert *#9900# and disable Fast dormacy - check is your network needs this
disable sync for accounts
disable GPS
disable wifi gps
disable wifi when not using
set brightness level to auto
set wifi sleep policy to when pluged in
Of course there are a couple more things you could do, and again this is what i do cant say it will work as good for you.
rooting.
Tasker
With it one can automate almost everything on the phone.
It's almost like programming i use it all the time and there are a lot of examples on this forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110775
Juice Defender Ultimate + Battery Saver Pro (by Antutu).
I tryed a few battery saver apps but no longer use them as i found if i turn auto sync off, change wifi sleep policy to never, untick network notification, and use task manger frequently to kill unused apps my battery lasts a lot longer. I also use easy task killer and set it to kill all apps every 30 mins. im using king cobra v1.1 for evo 3d gsm and the battery life is amazing!! just swapping battery's over now and its nearly 9pm!!
If any one needs any help rooting or unrooting the evo 3d gsm hboot 1.4.9.0018 let me know as i have done it a few times now. I unrooted my phone back to ***locked*** s-on with no traces of rooting, then checked for ota updates, wouldnt of installed them tho even if there was one!! then downgraded back too 1.4.9.0007 and rooted it again with revolutionary.
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forgot to mention auto brightness is a must. and i also calibrate battery after installing roms . can anyone please tell me if calibrating the battery every time it gets to 100% is good or bad? thanks.
When you use an xperia mini pro like me, with just 970 mAh, you get to try all possible battery savers... and unfortunetly no one of them makes the exception... actually as said evilchild, they don't make difference...
just disable everything that may drain your battery, your launcher effects too can be in cause, get rid of unuseful apps, put your brightness to lowest levels or just get it to auto if your rom use it... choose the best profile for your CPU... and with this you are good for 10 new hours in your daily battery life.
I'm not sure a 'battery-saving' app is real.
They just disable some features that we can manually do that. They just make it automatically disabled.
But, 2x Battery is good. It could disable Wifi or mobile data while the display is off.
one touch battery saver is awesome. create a widget to enable/disable wifi,gps,sync,brightness,bt,data ect with one touch!. free on google play
lonestrider said:
I'm not sure a 'battery-saving' app is real.
They just disable some features that we can manually do that. They just make it automatically disabled.
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Yeah. There's a thread somewhere which gives real battery saving tips
I tried some apps, but I didn't found one which really improved the battery.
In my opinion the best method is to reduce the brightness.
juice
Juice Defender Ultimate + Battery Saver Pro
lonestrider said:
I'm not sure a 'battery-saving' app is real.
They just disable some features that we can manually do that. They just make it automatically disabled.
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From the apps I tried out and used, almost all of them just disabled certain things, or tweaked settings that I could have done on my own, and eventually did do.
I found it easier to just go on a sub forum for the phone I had at the time and look up tweaks, tips etc.. I'd say doing this helped me more than any app I found previously, and was easy to do.
Dolphin companion is good and gives more remaining of time.
I use juice defender and the setting: "Only 2G"
3G takes a lot of battery..
Matheus-007 said:
Juice Defender Ultimate + Battery Saver Pro (by Antutu).
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i try yah friend.. i use script exacly but not best i think... thanks..
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None. There are no working saving battery apps, not a single one.
What a battery saving application can do is to change the phone configuration to a lower energy one, just like lowing brightness, disabling data packages and such, to sum up, things you can do by yourself and you'll save the battery that that application consumes.
The best way to save battery is to make a proper use of your phone:
-Disable gps when you don't need it.
-Turn off bluetooth when not needed.
-Keep screen brightness low at all time.
-Disable data packages before going to sleep and enable them again when you wake up.
-Keep your phone clean by periodically uninstalling apps that you don't use anymore and that make unnecesary use of memory, cpu and battery energy.
-Check your battery use statistics and keep an eye on applications that are using energy unefficiently, and replace them with better alternatives. Facebook and facebook messenger are clear examples.
-Some people say that connecting to 2G networks instead of 3G helps as well.
-Activate wifi at home, it seems to eat less battery than connected to 3G.
There are more tips out there, just gogle it and make a responsible use of your phone. Keeping phone clean and lowing brightness will probably make the biggest difference.
Moreover, if android S.O. is on the top of the list of battery use, your phone's software entered a weird condition. Reboot it and if it persist, consider a factory reset.
I hope this helps
I just started evaluating Juice Defender Ultimate to see if it can save battery life, but there are many options that I don't fully understand. I have attached a screenshot of the Notificatin pulldown window from my Galaxy Nexus which shows the JD status. There are 9 objects just to the right of the JD shield. They include 3 icons, 3 colored circles and 3 lines of text. Can anyone explain what each of them mean? I have checked the JD online info, without luck.
My best guess is:
the up/down icon represents mobile data
the red circle next to the up/down icon means mobile data is disabled
the radiation icon represents WiFi
the green circle next to the radiation icon means WiFi is enabled
the 3G icon represents 3g mode
the red circle next to the 3g icon means 3g is disabled and 2g is enabled
As mentioned, these are just my best guesses. I have no idea what the 3 lines of text mean?
Pete
After doing every possible combinations of ROMs and kernels and everything else under the son I have found the recipe for longer battery life and awesome performance all you need is the Deep Sleep Battery saver Greenify app and Go Power Master Hibernate all your apps then go to Go Power Master and make Greenify and Deep Sleep battery saver whitlisted apps schedule it the way you want Deep sleep battery saver that is as too what apps to sync so often or whatever and example I am used to running my phone dead four or five times a day I charged my phone once in two days when I used this combination so forget all those setting your processor to all these different speeds and profiles just use this and you will see the difference BIG difference unless your over clocked to 1.5 GHz or something even charging the phone and talking on it your battery barely drops this is one hell of a combination took a looooot of time to figure this or but works like a charm
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DBDMagic said:
After doing every possible combinations of ROMs and kernels and everything else under the son I have found the recipe for longer battery life and awesome performance all you need is the Deep Sleep Battery saver Greenify app and Go Power Master Hibernate all your apps then go to Go Power Master and make Greenify and Deep Sleep battery saver whitlisted apps schedule it the way you want Deep sleep battery saver that is as too what apps to sync so often or whatever and example I am used to running my phone dead four or five times a day I charged my phone once in two days when I used this combination so forget all those setting your processor to all these different speeds and profiles just use this and you will see the difference BIG difference unless your over clocked to 1.5 GHz or something even charging the phone and talking on it your battery barely drops this is one hell of a combination took a looooot of time to figure this or but works like a charm
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dude, use punctuation
mjz2cool said:
dude, use punctuation
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+1 :good: Why do people write that way?
mjz2cool said:
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If you have Deep Sleep problems, that Deep Sleep Battery really helps, but just turn it off (or freeze it) after waking your phone, since it still runs on background while you're using your phones, and consume some RAM, which we don't wanna...
Go Power Master, hmm... That "Optimization" thing just means "Clear Memory" (Background Memory). So if you have Task Managers who have that function, you can ditch GPM with your own Task Manager, less Apps installed
Greenify. The best so far. Cancels-out stupid background apps that persists (much better with the new version, GSF bye-bye! ). I only stay at my unstable 4.0 ROM for this baby (and also Xposed). If Greenify can be incorp'ed with GB firmwares, that would br awesome, which is not possible...
Additional tips:
• Lessen RAM usage (meaning close other running apps, foreground or background), to lessen CPU pressure.
• "Top-Off" your charging time. Do an extra 15-20 minute charge after 100% charging. If "fills up" the mV capacity , for the best full-battery experience
• If your phone can, Underclock/volt. Even less than a hundred mHz. It save some 15-30minute more juice on your phone. Just Overclock if needed, same as Setting the CPU clock to default.
• There are Rooted phones specializes on battery saving by:
*On Multi-Cores: Stop a core(s) to run. Really helps keep the CPU pressure off.
*Kernel Governors: Smartassv2, Hotplug, blah blah blah.. Search it...
• Limit / Lessen the usage of phone while charging. I don't know why, but I think its to, uhmm... prevent the battery pressure from charging-discharging, i guess!?
• Others are pretty basic. Backlights, GPS, Data, WiFi, Bluetooth... Yeah, no need to explain..
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On my S4 I used "One Power" but it doesn't work on the OPO. Does anyone have an idea?
borisffm said:
On my S4 I used "One Power" but it doesn't work on the OPO. Does anyone have an idea?
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There is power save profile in performance settings
Thanks. I thought it doesn't work.
Saving battery can be done in MANY ways. There is not one way to do so, and I doubt I could list all of the ways here. You can disable certain location features, Greenify apps, block wakelocks, tweak kernel/CPU/GPU etc.
I'll list a few ways to do it, some way work for you some may not.
* Set up Tasker profile to underclock the CPU when the screen is off, or at night, or under certain circumstances.
* Set up Tasker profile to change CPU governor at certain time or event (if kernel allows it)
* Turn off auto brightness and get used to using manually brightness at low levels.
* Turn WiFi and/or GPS off when not in use.
* Don't use the vibrate feature for anything.
* Flash a ROM and/or kernel that advertises battery savings. (Every device is different, you'll have to find the one that works for you and your device)
* Use 3G instead if LTE when fast speeds aren't needed.
* Use the Greenify app to hibernate apps.
* Use a battery monitor to make sure you don't have any rouge apps or processes.
I don't use many of these but all these can, potentially, work. Just depends how extreme you want to be.
If you want a set and forget method I'd recommend ROM/Kernel, Tasker profiles, and Greenify.
The best way to save battery is to eliminate wakelocks. The oneplus one is such a great phone when it comes to battery, it's something I don't even worry about.
Some of the things are out of your control as well. Things like signal strength is another strong battery drain if the signal is weak.
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I use Tasker and Syncer to really optimize battery... certain apps sync only when on wifi... some with time periods... syncing less frequently really helps.
Greenify is great at saving battery, as well as not using auto-brightness. Manual brightness is a lot easier to adjust if you enable the status bar gesture.
EDIT: Disable/Lengthen update frequency of apps like News, Google Now and widgets.
Save battery?Are u serious.Getting my battery to last is the least of my worries with this phone.Battery life is superb!!!
MFirst of all i want to apologyze for my bad English.
After the nougat update i start getting a really bad battery life and have to charge the phone 3 times a day. I start digging in the problem and do test in search for a better battery. I managed to improve my 3hous SoT to get between 4.30 to 6 hours SoT.
The tweaks in this guide are not magical, there are just tips that help me improve a lot my battery life. There is no need to unlock bootloader or to root the phone. The idea is to make a good balance between functionality and battery life. Everyone can choose what thinks they want to sacrifice for battery life and what they want to keep. All the steps that are listed here are reversible and can't harm your device in any way. It is pointed to people that do not know a lot of this subject.
My advice is to full apply all the steps and after getting a good battery life start to enabling the features that you want to have on the phone one by one and test battery.
At the end of this guide there is a section with improvements wich aim is to make the moto x style look like more like the news motorola Phones.
Simple Tips for Battery life:
-After a major OS upgrade it is important to do a full factory reset, full wipe. When logging with your google acount start the device as a new device. Do not restore apps!
-Try to not use the Turbocharger. Based on my own experience, a good 1-2 Amp charger get a lot more juyce that the turbo charger. It may sound weird to you but i tested this a lot of times and really see and important difference. I only use the turbocharge when i am in a hurry.
-Do a full calibration of your battery. Let the battery get to 0%. Turn the phone off and let it charge to 100% and left it plugged a little bit more. After that unplugg the phone, restart it and see if the % is still 100%. If not plugg the phone again after a 100% charge and repeat the process until you get a full 100% charge or near that number.
-A good advice if to left the phone charging in the nigth, or when you think it is a good moment. After get to 100% of the charge, unplugg the phone, restart it and plug it again. For my the battery is not getting a good reading after Nougat update. After a restart i always "lost" like 8% of charge. I do this every time i charge the phone.
-The NOUGAT room is draining battery very very fast when there is bad celular signal. So if you are not having a good celular signal it is a good advice to put the phone in airplane mode until you change your location. Also, there is drain with bad wi-fi signal so try to avoid that too. It is not strong like the celular drain but can influence in your final results.
-Turn off location when you are not using it. If you have to use it try to use the "battery saver mode" and put high accuaricy when you are going to use the GPS for a precise fix or navigation. Google Play Services have and excess use of wackelocks due to location, they are listed ass NLPcollectorwackelock and NLPwackelock.
-If you are on Wifi turn off data and if you are in data turn off Wifi. If you can use both try to use Wifi with a good wifi signal. It uses a little bit less battery that 4G for me.
-Unninstall apps that you are not using or going to use in a short-mid time. They may be running in the background and eating
juice.
-Turn off automatic brigthness. Put your brigth to the minimun you are happy with. I used mine almost in the minimun and i see the screen perfect. Also remember that the power scale is non linear. Putting the wheel in the half of the brigthness bar is not getting you "half the brigthness of the screen".
Download autobrigth switch https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abrody.brightness&hl=es_419 .This make you turn autobrigthness on with a click. This is very usefull if you are outside, let you see the screen with 100% and then let turn it off when you are inside. It is a easy way to manage brigthness.
IMPORTANT:When you are not using your device it must go to sleep mode. It is a mode where the CPU is almost turned off and it doens't drain much battery. Later in this guide i will explain how to properly install a Battery monitor program. It is very important to watch if the device is sleeping ok and there aren't apps with bad behaviours keeping the device awake and draining your battery. This can be seem in GSAM Battery monitor watching the held awake tab. If an app is keeping your device awake you have to uninstall or contact the developer and tell him about your problem with his app.
Tunning the system to Optimize the Battery and Performance:
For this part you will need to have installed ADB drivers, you can download and install from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
You have to activated debug mode on the phone:
Go to settings, about phone, tap 7 times the Compilation Number until you see a message saying that you are a developper. Now go to settingss, developer and activated USB DEBUG mode. To see what apps are running in the background on your phone go to settings, developer, in execution.
Also you will need to install 4 more free apps, later they can be uninstalled if you want:
App inspector to know the name of certain package:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bg.projectoria.appinspector
App Ops to manage special permissions of apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission&hl=es
Shizuku Manager is needed to give the permissions necesary to App Ops:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=moe.shizuku.privileged.api
Gsam battery Monitor for monitoring apps usage:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=es
The aim of this part of the guide is to disable all the features and apps that may be drainning your battery.
All of this can be reverted one by one after getting a good battery and testing the results and the impact on battery life:
-Turn off location, bluetooth, NFC.
-Go to moto app and turn off Moto Voice, Moto screen, Wave to wake. I keep the flaslight and the cam gesture on but you can dissable them if you want.
-Go to settingss, Motorola privacy and turn off enhancet device support and help us with bla bla.
-Go to settings, security, back up and turn off data back up.
-Go to settings, location, turn of Google location History and share location of google. In the Rigth upper corner tap on the 3 dots and turn of bluetooth scanning and wifi scanning.
-Go to settings, google, search, and turn off all the features like feed, nearby, voice detection, notifications, doodles, google fit, firebase App Indexing.
-Go to settings, google, security, dissable google play protect,etc. (If you consider this ass important do not disable it)
-Go to settings, apps, tap the 3 dots in the upper rigth corner and tap on show system apps. Disable Motorola device manager and Motorola notifications. Also delete the apps data.
-Go to accounts and turn off syncronizations of all the things you really don't need. For instance in google account i left on contacts, Chrome and Contacts info only.
-If you are using chrome go to settingss, site configuration. Turn off location, notifications, sync in the background. In the sync settings just let the chrome sync only what you need.
-Disable all google and motorola apps that you are not using. For instance Google Duo, hangouts, play music, play books, play games, carrier services, Motorola connect, talkback, devices help, etc.
-Search for apps that ask for permission you think they don't need it. Speacially location.
-Turn off special permission that you think apps don't need. The special permission can be managed going to settings, apps, tap the wheel, advance-special acces:Look to "change system settings" and "get over other aplications". Also turn off acces to data usage for Google Play and Google Play services.
-Go to settingss, security, trusted agents, disable smartlock.
-If you have apps like greenify installed, uninstall them.
-If you have home widgets be sure that they are not using your location and also if it posible put the refresh time to the minimum.
-I don't use GBOARD, it was not working ok for me and also draining battery. So i search in the internet and donwload the latest google keyboard version before GBOARD, it works perfect. I do not recommend GBOARD as it is not working ok and it is not propperly optimized.
Using ADB for Background process:
The next step consist of disabling System process and apps that you no not need to run in the background, for example MotoCare:
Motocare is a system process that runs in the background and collects info of your device use even if you turn off motorola privacy features. That not makes much sense but it is there and can't be disable in a easy way.
After installing ADB, drivers and turning on USB DEBUG MODE, plug the phone, go to the search bar in windows and search for CMD. Open it.
Write:
abd devices
Is everything is ok you will see a device in the list that is your Moto x Style. If not figure out what is the problem, make sure DEBUG MODE is on and that you give the propper permission in the phone.
Then write:
adb -d shell pm grant com.gsamlabs.bbm android.permission.BATTERY_STATS
This will let you see full wakelock list in GSAM Battery Monitor app. This is very important to know if there is an app keeping your device awake.
next:
abd shell
cmd appops set "com.motorola.motocare" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
cmd appops set "com.motorola.motocare.internal" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
This last two lines will stop motocare. After this go to apps, with "show system apps" on search motocare and motocareint and delete all the data. After that check that motocare is not running in the background.
cmd appops set "com.motorola.ccc.ota" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
cmd appops set "com.motorola.ccc.checkin" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
This will turn off OTA services. If you want to take an OTA after this, (if motorola ever send another OTA for our device) you can just go to settingss, about phone and check for update manually. (After enabling Motorola device Manager and Motorola Notification). Anyway is there is a new OTA you probably are going to know it from XDA forums.
You can use the same command to disable apps that you don't need to run in the background but you want to use.
To use this commands just open app inspector, search the app you want. Copy the package name and use the command with that package. Anyway in the next step i will show you a easy way to do the same with other apps that are not from the system.
If you want to re enable and app to run in the background just reinstall it or write the same sentence changing "ignore" for "allow":
For example with Facebook. If you search it in app ops the package name is com.facebook.katana . The name of the package is "katana" because it is like smashing your battery with a Katana lol.
adb shell
cmd appops set "com.facebook.katana" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
to enable it:
cmd appops set "com.facebook.katana" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND allow
My advice is to not use this command with google services or with system apps you don't know what they do in your phone. It may get you in a problem.
Now we are going to see another way to stop apps for running in the background. This is usefull with apps that you want to keep and don't want to run in the background.
For example in my case, i use facebook app but don't want it to run in the background. Also i disable all navitagion apps to run in the background, Here we go and google maps in my case. They both work perfect when I open they, don't need them running in the background. I let apps like WhatsApp, Instagram, Tinder, Facebook Messenger to run in the background because i want to know when someone send a message and don't want to wait until i open the app. If you don't need the notifications my advice is to don't let run in the background. That will get you a considerable amount of battery. Whatsapp have a lot of battery drain. For some reasons it has the acelerometer turn on a ridiculous amount of time and it triggers google play services wackelock PackageMeasuremntservice.
Connect the phone via usb and launch terminal as we did before, search bar and search button, type CMD and open it. Open Shizuku Manager
Wrote in the terminal:
adb shell sh /sdcard/Android/data/moe.shizuku.privileged.api/files/start.sh
if you do it rigth you will see that the server starts running. Now unplugg your phone, close shizuku manager and open App Ops. If you turn off your phone you will have to repeat the process in order to get app ops running again.
Search for apps that you don't want to run in the background. In the permission settings there is "run in the background", you can turn it off or on from there. It has exact the same effect that doing it in the ADB terminal ass we did it in the previous step. But motocare can't be disabled from the app.
Also you can manage all the permission from the apps one by one in a lot better detailed way than from the stock app settings..
There is also a trick with google play services and location. I am getting a big wake up with NLPcollector and variants. If you turn off the network location permission in google play services it will stop the wakelock even if you have your location ON. That make google play services almost drainless. The problem is that some apps may not get a correct location in "battery saving mode" because they use google play services. This is fixed turning on high presition mode or device only mode and letting the GPS do the location work only when you need it.
Finally you can tweak all your apps permissions and see the battery results. The two most important permission related to battery life are the location and the background one. Try to disable location for everything you don't need to be tracking you.
Tunning your Moto X Style:
To get the new Camera app from motorola:
Go to apps, search for stock camera app and disable it. Delete all the app data. Go to settings, security and turn on "Unkown Sources".After that donwload the moded camera app from this tread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/themes-apps/moto-camera-6-0-43-10-modded-apk-t3459690
Restart your phonr and Install it! Now you have the new camera app . It work almost perfect, the only things that are not working for me are: Twist to change to selfie mode, shutter time in pro mode and white balance in pro mode. Don't forget to thanks the developer for this great app. Also turn off Unkonw Sources after the installation.
To get the Moto Z command Widget:
Donwload and install this app:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/themes-apps/moto-z-command-center-widget-t3417171
Don't forget to turn location of the widget off, you can put your location manually and save battery.
Launcher 3:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/moto-z2-play-launcher-google-root-t3623608
It is the new Motorola Stock Launcher. You can try the Moto G5 Launcher too, it is in XDA.
Unlock Method:
The phone doesn't have fingerprint scanner but a good alternative is to use face unlock. LG and Samsung do a lot of marketing of something that is build in on android stock and work almost perfect. Go to security, turn smartlock on.Then go to smartlock and turn on face detection. It works like a charm, is almost instantaneous. My advice is to do this after getting a good battery life as smartlock features can affect battery. Make sure you don't have on trusted places on Smartlock as it drains your battery. Also if you have location ON it may drain your battery even if you don't have trusted place on, so take care. The trusted face feature on its own drains a negligible % of battery.
As i stated in the beggining:
If you want the best battery life you always have to do a compromise between it and features of the phone. For example i love moto display and the wave to wake feature but it takes so much juice of my phone.
My advice is to do all the steps, make sure you are getting a good battery life and after that start reenabling one by one the features you need and watching the impact of them in your battery life. Also i know that some of the stuff i mention may have a negligible impact in battery for themselves but when you put all together they do make a difference. My phone is draining almost 0% on stand by mode with doze. I let it with a %, go to sleep and when i wake up i have the same %.
At this moment i am testing battery on my phone and seeying wich features do make a big diference in battery life.
For instance i am using smartlock, face unlock with location off and in security settings i have android device manager enabled. They seems to not affect the battery performance so much. I will continue testing features to see wich ones are the main offenders.
Any suggestion or any question is welcome! Also if this helps you please let me know and post your battery life before and after.
Great guide, although might a bit extreme for some people to do all of these things.
I can tell you the biggest increase in battery life i have seen is to disable the Moto Display and Moto Gesture to wave over the display... My idle usage has stopped in half and maintains around 2% with it all off.
acejavelin said:
Great guide, although might a bit extreme for some people to do all of these things.
I can tell you the biggest increase in battery life i have seen is to disable the Moto Display and Moto Gesture to wave over the display... My idle usage has stopped in half and maintains around 2% with it all off.
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Yes, i know that for some people it may be too much, but the guide is divided in parts so anyone can take what they seem comfortable with.
I agree with you, wave to wake and moto display are the main offenders and i feel that with nougat the battery drain of this features get agravated a lot more. It is a shame because i really like that features but they drain your battery even with the screen on..
Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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If your SOT increased on Nougat, it is because the OS is more efficient elsewhere... hardware power draw cannot be changed with software.
Why not use the gestures? Like anything else, they are unnecessary for normal operation and consume extra battery, waiting for detect you waving your hand over the display takes some power, not a lot, but over 10-12 hours it is noticeable... Why buy a phone with gestures if your just going to turn them off? Because the pluses outweigh the negative and there is no perfect device.
Moto probably doesn't implement DT2W because the screen technology they use would require the screen (digitizer actually) to be powered all the time, increasing idle battery draw from 2-5% per hour. It is implemented in some 3rd party kernels and ROMs, but few people use it because over 12 hours of sleeping time, it consumes 25%-50% of your battery capacity. :/
I'm not going to get into the other stuff, things like disabling Google Play services and location services and stuff like that, just take away too much functionality for my taste for what you gain. In general when not traveling, I need 3 hours of SOT in a day and this device generally makes that. When traveling (which I did on very regular basis for years until this week) I was under 50% before 9am and near dead by noon if I didn't charge or connect to battery pack. So in general these optimization are not enough to do what I need, so I just skip them.
2be3_80 said:
Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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For my after nougat update the battery life go to Hell. I was getting 3hs lf SoT wich is unaceptable for me.
I understand your point and i really like wave to wake. It is nice. For my is nicer to have 5hs or more of SoT. In nougat my wave to wake eats battery like crazy and i really don't need it much. Answering your question, disabling motocare only disable motorola remote support. All the other moto stuff doesn't affect the phone, only disable the OTAs. There is nothing in the guide that compromise basic functionality of the phone, maybe only disabling location permission on google play services with app ops can affect location on some apps. As i stated in the end, everyone have to chose between functionalitis and battery life.
After i managed to get 6hs SoT i start to enabling things and test how was my battery life. I will stop in the 5 hours SoT limit.
At this moment i reenable: moto voice, location in saving mode, smart lock with face unlock, android administrator to lock the device remotely and i am getting between 5hs to 5:20hs SoT. Next step is to try with moto display.
NahuelMS said:
For my after nougat update the battery life go to Hell. I was getting 3hs lf SoT wich is unaceptable for me.
I understand your point and i really like wave to wake. It is nice. For my is nicer to have 5hs or more of SoT. In nougat my wave to wake eats battery like crazy and i really don't need it much. Answering your question, disabling motocare only disable motorola remote support. All the other moto stuff doesn't affect the phone, only disable the OTAs. There is nothing in the guide that compromise basic functionality of the phone, maybe only disabling location permission on google play services with app ops can affect location on some apps. As i stated in the end, everyone have to chose between functionalitis and battery life.
After i managed to get 6hs SoT i start to enabling things and test how was my battery life. I will stop in the 5 hours SoT limit.
At this moment i reenable: moto voice, location in saving mode, smart lock with face unlock, android administrator to lock the device remotely and i am getting between 5hs to 5:20hs SoT. Next step is to try with moto display.
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I have run ADB commands and after each and everyone I had no confirmation dialogue nor anything.
I have rebooted device and how can I check if I had done everything right?
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I have run ADB commands and after each and everyone I had no confirmation dialogue nor anything.
I have rebooted device and how can I check if I had done everything right?
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If you have done everything rigth you wont see the apps running unless you open they. To see process in execution you have to go to seetings, about device, tap 7 times build number until you get the message that you are a developer.
Go to seeting again, you will see developer option. In there you search for in execution. If you do everything rigth you wont see motocare or moto things runnings. Same with the apps like facebook, etc. They only appear in execution when you open they or have they in recent apps.
Let me know if your battery get improved.
This if from last test:
Enabled moto display, moto voice, face unlock, location in battery saving mode. Disabling background things really help with battety life.
NahuelMS said:
This if from last test:
Enabled moto display, moto voice, face unlock, location in battery saving mode. Disabling background things really help with battety life.
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That's really good achievement.
I can't get close to your results.
I have disabled moto apps running in background, location off, Moto display on, wave hand on.
I only use WiFi/network when needed.
Hmm what could be the culprit?
On this charge I think I will get about 4h sot.
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2be3_80 said:
That's really good achievement.
I can't get close to your results.
I have disabled moto apps running in background, location off, Moto display on, wave hand on.
I only use WiFi/network when needed.
Hmm what could be the culprit?
On this charge I think I will get about 4h sot.
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Yes, i think the average for those conditions is 5 hs (mine conditions)
Are you using turbocharger? How old is your phone? Maybe the battery is getting bad? Did you disable apps like facebook running in the background? Installed Gsam Battery monitor amd check there isn't an app eating your juice or keeping your device awake? Do you have good signal? My best advice is to do all the steps of the guide and see how much of battery life are you getting in that condition. Them start reenabling things like moto voice, moto display and finaly wave to wake. Did your battery got improved dissabling moto stuff?
Wave to wake for my on Nougat was a battery hog. Maybe try to disable it and see how much your battery improves!
My phone is from February 2017, never used turbocharger (I believe it's killing battery over time). Not using Facebook.
When updated to Nougat I did factory reset and disabled various Google apps that I don't use, like Duo, Google+, etc.
My sot was around 4 h with Moto display and wave hand gesture. After disabling Moto stuff from your guide though ADB I haven't noticed any improvements. I will observe few more days. I don't have any Moto update processes running in background.
I use Gboard and like it very much, so it's a keeper for me.
Thanks
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My phone is from February 2017, never used turbocharger (I believe it's killing battery over time). Not using Facebook.
When updated to Nougat I did factory reset and disabled various Google apps that I don't use, like Duo, Google+, etc.
My sot was around 4 h with Moto display and wave hand gesture. After disabling Moto stuff from your guide though ADB I haven't noticed any improvements. I will observe few more days. I don't have any Moto update processes running in background.
I use Gboard and like it very much, so it's a keeper for me.
Thanks
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Try one or two days without wave to wake and see how much battery you can get. I don't think Gboard should be a deal breaker in battery life in comparison with google keyboard, i don't think it is the problem. Maybe there is an app keepping your device awake? Your phone is almost new so i doubt from battery problems. Can you post a screenshot of battery usage and signal, awake time, etc, from your android battery usage?
This is from today with mid usage and time with low signal:
Today I did factory reset and will observe how it goes without tweaks but with most apps shipped with phone disabled that I don't use
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Today I did factory reset and will observe how it goes without tweaks but with most apps shipped with phone disabled that I don't use
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If you allready did a factory reset i don't think it will give much battery in same conditions and take into account that android take some cycles to calibrate the system and the apps, so battery duration should getting extended during the first week until it reach a plateau.
Just an FYI... Up until a week or so ago, I was averaging 2h 45m to 3h screen on time in an average day and since I started using my phone for work (BYOD program, always had a separate work device before) the battery life started really mattering so I made the following changes...
- Dropped Facebook and Messenger (MASSIVE battery hog apps, always at the top of the list) and moved to Facebook Lite (yes, you can get it in the US, just have to use APKMirror, and it includes Messenger services in the same app)
- Dropped Accuweather (was keeping device awake and accessing location dozens to hundreds of times per hour) and switched to 1Weather
- Dropped Microsoft Outlook (keeping device awake and using background data, and a Device Administrator I didn't want) and switched to Nine
- Dropped OpenSignal (was using background data and waking device very frequently)
- Disabled Moto Display entirely
- Disabled Moto Action Wave to Wake
These 6 things are all I have done... I keep all services active, high accuracy location, all accounts and services syncing, no background data restrictions, no disabled apps, backup and other services like Motorola services all running, no adjustments in permissions, using Gboard as my default keyboard, and I have ~120 apps installed, 80% of which are occasional use only. I use a Quick Charger about 50% of the time for boost charging at work or when traveling, but overnights it is on a standard (5v/1.8A) charger and not QC. I have seen my Doze and Deep Sleep times increase significantly, with Deep Sleep time approaching to 75%... And Screen On Time over a normal day increasing by nearly an hour on average... In fact, yesterday I had my best SoT in over a year with 4h 28m over a 16 hour day in mixed use, including a 6 hour YuGiOh tournament where I used the phone to keep score of my matches (with marginal LTE service and no WiFi), going out to eat 20 minutes away, and then back home for some video game time with friends and still have 20% battery remaining when it went back on the charger, probably could have gotten 5.5 hours if I pushed it near zero. Making it sufficient for daily use for me again.
Am I saying this is the answer for everyone? No, but install a good battery monitoring tool like GSAM Battery Monitor and see what is using your battery (make sure to enable advanced reporting, requires ADB connection)... and don't just look at the default screens, dig into the app after some use. The "View % Power Used" screen only tells part of the story... Make sure to look at View Number Times Waking Device, View GPS Time Used, and View Time Held Awake because some things are not always so obvious. Accuweather for one was "hiding" some of it's usage in Android System and Google services in the View % Power Screen, but when you looked in View Time Held Awake and View GPS Time Used, it became evident it was doing something.
Some other apps which can be culprits are shopping apps, they often track where you are frequently... such as Walmart, Sam's Club, Best Buy, CVS, and most other dedicated apps for shopping. Alternative messaging apps like Messenger, Whatsapp, Kik, Skype, Viber, SnapChat (currently the #1 battery killer out there according to several sources), etc. often keep the device awake and use background data. Airline and other travel apps often check your location every minute or even more frequently even when not open. "Optimizer" apps like LionMobi Power Battery, CleanMaster, and similar tools are worthless and usually consume more resources than they help with. News apps like BBC News often use background data and keep the device awake... Some of these apps might be worth it's battery consumption for your usage, maybe not, the point is to know the problem and decide if it's needs to be fixed or not.
All I am saying here is that before you blame the device or hardware, make sure it isn't your software or usage that is the real culprit, but sometimes it does take some digging.
The last update to the clock app is buggy for me. It is using massive CPU and kepping my device awake for hours. It is important to check if it is working ok.
NahuelMS said:
The last update to the clock app is buggy for me. It is using massive CPU and kepping my device awake for hours. It is important to check if it is working ok.
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I would try clearing the clock cache / data
On Gsam the clock doesn't even show up on my CPU usage.
Hemidrosis said:
I would try clearing the clock cache / data
On Gsam the clock doesn't even show up on my CPU usage.
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Allready did that but it didn't fix it. The problem was sporadiclly. Finally uninnstaled the update, cleared all the data and updated again, no sign of the problem for now! Thanks!
Facebook lite and messenger lite if you use those services help a ton all by themselves. Shopping apps I disallow them using background data and location. It's doesn't take that long to grab location once open. Saves a great deal of data and battery.. Amazon apps turn off background data takes care of most battery drain issues related to them.
Almost all android users have one common issue and that is quick battery draining issue. The smarter Android device is getting, the more battery is it sucking. We are forced to carry charger or power bank all the time due to short battery life.
So, today I am going to tell you what I do to get a SOT (Screen On Time) of around 9-10 hours.
If you don't like the steps I am going to share, you may walk away. And if you plan on trying, don't forget to let me know how you are doing.
Requirements:
1. A rooted device
2. Magisk Manager
3. Afwall+
4. MacroDroid
5. Kernel Adiutor
6. Patience
Steps that I follow:
1. I don't use Chrome, Google app (for privacy) and Facebook. I use Firefox focus for browsing and Samsung Internet Browser for downloading contents online. It is proven that these three apps are the main culprit why the device dry up so quickly. So, getting rid of them is the best idea for the sake of battery and performance.
2. I use "Enable Doze For GMS Magisk Module" which is available on Magisk repo. It basically puts Google Play Services into Doze mode. You can try "sysconfig Patcher" as well. This will definitely improve your battery life.
3. I use Greenify4Magisk module. It is available in Magisk repo. It is same as regular Greenify app with ROM integrated privilege. I greenify almost all third party apps (except apps that need to run in the background like AFWall+ or MacroDroid etc.). This way no apps run in the background when I don't use them.
4. I also use AFWall+ to make sure no app steal data package without my knowledge. This saves my data and privacy and helps me saving battery as well.
5. MacroDroid is a great alternative to Tasker. I use it to turn OFF data when the screen goes off and turn it back ON when the screen is on (Exception is when I play music, data doesn't get OFF). It also turns ON battery saver and Airplane mode (Caution: You will miss any important calls) when I go to sleep and turn them OFF when I wake up in the morning. This makes sure my battery percentage doesn't drop when I am not using the device.
6. I under clocked the CPU to 1689MHz and GPU to 510MHz. Kernel Adiutor helps me doing that. Since I don't play games that much, this settings help me getting an amazing battery life without sacrificing performance.
7. I keep my Location and Auto Sync turned OFF most of the times and turn them ON only when I need. I also keep the device sleep time to 15 seconds and brightness level as low as possible.
8. Since I am using JIO, I need to change the Network band in order to get stability and better battery backup. For more info, click here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/jio-network-issue-finally-solved-t3778229
I am extremely sorry for not being able to explain in details (as I am quite busy with my work). If anyone plans to follow my steps and needs help on setting up Greenify, AFWall+ or any other help, please do let me know and I will do my best to help you. I have attached the link of my MacroDroid settings. Please use "Export/Import" option (available on the app) to import the settings and turn it ON. If it asks Root permission, give it. Also go to Settings and click on "Ignore Battery Optimisations" for the app to work in a better way.
N.B. I know some kidos would feel like "Why to use a smartphone if not enjoying all its features". Well, once you grow up and get the responsibility of your family, you would understand the importance of this post. It's not like we don't enjoy our smartphones. We do, but mostly on weekends. On weekdays (because of our busy work schedule), we use our cellphones just to make/receive a few phone calls (mostly at/from home) or text messages. So, getting a good SOT is what we want from our smartphone. It makes sure we don't need to keep charging our device all the times. If anyone still feels annoyed with my post, please STAY AWAY! But I would accept no sarcastic or disrespectful comments and anything as such would be reported immediately (You are being warned).
If this post helps you, don't forget to hit Thanks. It will encourage me to spend more times on XDA and help you more.
Download my MacroDroid settings from here:
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This is the kind of SOT I am getting on Resurrection Remix ROM with stock kernel. The above mentioned steps are applicable to any ROM/Kernel.
Since you mentioned growing up and family.
Turning airplane mode on during sleep hours. Won't be much of a help when someone is in emergency.
I would suggest that you add CAUTION in the step "turning airplane mode on".
I know it won't make a difference. But here i have seen people following simple instructions and still failing
I can easily theoretically get 10 hours of SOT without rooting and other apps through this:
1. Use only WI-FI with no mobile data and location throughout the usage.
2. Manually turn off background usage and background data of apps you seldomly use (in Settings > Apps)
3. No gaming
4. Use only one Google account
I don't usually attain 10 hours because there are times I really need to use mobile data which consumes a lot of battery. Considering that can max out 5-6 hours with 40% remaining before I charge my phone.
Good info thanks for sharing....
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Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Almost all android users have one common issue and that is quick battery draining issue. The smarter Android device is getting, the more battery is it sucking. We are forced to carry charger or power bank all the time due to short battery life.
So, today I am going to tell you what I do to get a SOT (Screen On Time) of around 9-10 hours.
If you don't like the steps I am going to share, you may walk away. And if you plan on trying, don't forget to let me know how you are doing.
Requirements:
1. A rooted device
2. Magisk Manager
3. Afwall+
4. MacroDroid
5. Kernel Adiutor
6. Patience
Steps that I follow:
1. I don't use Chrome, Google app (for privacy) and Facebook. I use Firefox focus for browsing and Samsung Internet Browser for downloading contents online. It is proven that these three apps are the main culprit why the device dry up so quickly. So, getting rid of them is the best idea for the sake of battery and performance.
2. I use "Enable Doze For GMS Magisk Module" which is available on Magisk repo. It basically puts Google Play Services into Doze mode. You can try "sysconfig Patcher" as well. This will definitely improve your battery life.
3. I use Greenify4Magisk module. It is available in Magisk repo. It is same as regular Greenify app with ROM integrated privilege. I greenify almost all third party apps (except apps that need to run in the background like AFWall+ or MacroDroid etc.). This way no apps run in the background when I don't use them.
4. I also use AFWall+ to make sure no app steal data package without my knowledge. This saves my data and privacy and helps me saving battery as well.
5. MacroDroid is a great alternative to Tasker. I use it to turn OFF data when the screen goes off and turn it back ON when the screen is on (Exception is when I play music, data doesn't get OFF). It also turns ON battery saver and Airplane mode (Caution: You will miss any important calls) when I go to sleep and turn them OFF when I wake up in the morning. This makes sure my battery percentage doesn't drop when I am not using the device.
6. I under clocked the CPU to 1689MHz and GPU to 510MHz. Kernel Adiutor helps me doing that. Since I don't play games that much, this settings help me getting an amazing battery life without sacrificing performance.
7. I keep my Location and Auto Sync turned OFF most of the times and turn them ON only when I need. I also keep the device sleep time to 15 seconds and brightness level as low as possible.
8. Since I am using JIO, I need to change the Network band in order to get stability and better battery backup. For more info, click here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/jio-network-issue-finally-solved-t3778229
I am extremely sorry for not being able to explain in details (as I am quite busy with my work). If anyone plans to follow my steps and needs help on setting up Greenify, AFWall+ or any other help, please do let me know and I will do my best to help you. I have attached the link of my MacroDroid settings. Please use "Export/Import" option (available on the app) to import the settings and turn it ON. If it asks Root permission, give it. Also go to Settings and click on "Ignore Battery Optimisations" for the app to work in a better way.
N.B. I know some kidos would feel like "Why to use a smartphone if not enjoying all its features". Well, once you grow up and get the responsibility of your family, you would understand the importance of this post. It's not like we don't enjoy our smartphones. We do, but mostly on weekends. On weekdays (because of our busy work schedule), we use our cellphones just to make/receive a few phone calls (mostly at/from home) or text messages. So, getting a good SOT is what we want from our smartphone. It makes sure we don't need to keep charging our device all the times. If anyone still feels annoyed with my post, please STAY AWAY! But I would accept no sarcastic or disrespectful comments and anything as such would be reported immediately (You are being warned).
If this post helps you, don't forget to hit Thanks. It will encourage me to spend more times on XDA and help you more.
Download my MacroDroid settings from here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16Cz2oTUF5gw1nL8Od8vp904FzQ1f24w2
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