(Discussion) DOUBTS I GOT - Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

( i am new to this Flashing and if these questions were already answered anywhere please give me links i will study :highfive: )
15 days back i chose Cm13 nightly, installed Gapps .. There are somethings i didnt Understand, but i blindly Followed the Tutorials , although they helped me installing everything right.. i got some doubts left in my mind .. Can anyone please make big-heart and clear my doubts :silly:
1) When ever i UPGRADE to a new Nightly, All of my previously flashed zips ( moto camera, xposed framework .. etc ) vanish , But the Apps which i installed from Playstore and 3rdparty APKS are present .. WHY ?? is it normal ?
2) Whats up with these Clearning Cache/Dalvik and DATA .. what do they actually DO?? When do we need to perform?? ( before installing zips or after installing zips? what will they delete?? )
3)( i dont get it right, because i use a PC with Windows, when we are formatting it.. even though when we format every partition [i mean literally there is nothing in HDD]and install NEW os from USB or CD .. the OperatingSystem gets copied from those USB/CD ) is it the same case with this ANDROID (copies from SD card?)?? or do we need OS running properly in background ( to make CWM/TWRP work) ?? what happens if we install a ROM from Internal memory( incase if we dont have memorcard slot like nexus phones) ?? :cyclops:
4)If i am having a GAPPS version Old, if i want to update those.. what happens when we flash GAPPS latest version ( consider Open gapps) ? Does it cause anyproblem or Will it remove present GAPPS and install Latest version with out any problem ..
These are my doubts Will anyone please explain ?

1. Every nightly (or whatever upgrade via rom.zip) cleans up and places updated system files in /system.
To survive it, some, like gapps place a script in addon.d folder that automatically copies the file to another location and then restores after flashing nightly.
2. Cant explain myself, lol have a look here, it contains the definitions-
https://m.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/sthr8/dirty_flashing_what_it_is_and_is_not_lets_set_the/
3. Twrp just extracts the zip and places the files in correct directories, often assigning them correct permissions too. In case of android, the system files are placed in /system directory (the location is different, it is something like /dev/mmcblkXX, check the first lines in twrp when upgrading it would be like 'found ext4 /dev/mmcblkXX'. That partition is mounted to /system).
Android kernel is Linux-based which itself is Unix-like so a cool concept can be remembered as-
Everything in Unix is a file.(Google it your fascinated )
So it will work regardless of where you keep the zip file, only thing is that twrp should have full access to it. And like in windows, you may be able to even swap out /system with your internal storage just like we choose the partition to be C:\ .(i think it's theoretically possible they all are just storage spaces).
And, the operating system does not run in background while in recovery, think of it like an embedded os dual booted with android. Its totally independent of the current operating system. (You think ,if the os were needed to work in background, then how twrp could install a new rom over it, or still work after formatting /system?)
4. And at last, installing a newer gapps over older one automatically removes the older gapps and flashes the latest one (In case of opengapps you can see the twrp progress log when installing 'removing current/obsolete gapps' or similar ). I only tested it on opengapps pico.
I can't say it would be safe to install two different gapps over one another without a dirty flash (like bank gapps over opengapps). But note that you should clear dalvik&cache after flashing, if not done automatically.
Some additional links-
Dalvik cache related (straight from google search )-http://androidforums.com/threads/what-is-dalvik-cache.76110/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752390
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/25859/why-do-i-need-to-wipe-dalvik-cache
https://www.androidpit.com/root-recommendations-custom-rom-wipe-cache
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7541281/what-is-dalvik-and-dalvik-cache.
Hope it helps.[emoji16] [emoji39]
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@Gravemind2015 One thanx isnt enough for your INFO :good:
i got a mild doubt,
Does flashing Nightlies Daily effect our Memory ( internal/ Os related memory - like Formatting a USB Pendrive more times will decrease its Lifetime )
Is there any limit or should we even consider the number of times we Flash Roms into our phone?? Does it harm our devices??

nandakis4 said:
@Gravemind2015 One thanx isnt enough for your INFO :good:
i got a mild doubt,[emoji14]Does flashing Nightlies Daily effect our Memory ( internal/ Os related memory - like Formatting a USB Pendrive more times will decrease its Lifetime )
Is there any limit or should we even consider the number of times we Flash Roms into our phone?? Does it harm our devices??
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It does effect as they are permanent (block based) storages, just as SSD drives, and then we also have to consider that we are not supposed to touch system partition by phone makers.
But we need not care. The phone will go on for years (many like defy or htc dream,evo 3d still work fine today) before having bad blocks in storage.
Got links for this topic too-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360531
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...ly-flashing-roms-bad-your-droid-s-health.html
The discussions in above links are interesting. I am just as curious as you, I think I got that from my cat[emoji14] . And BTW thank you for I too learnt many things today.[emoji108]
As jobs say it, Stay hungry, Stay foolish, (my addon) Stay Paranoid.[emoji14]
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Sure, it will shorten the life of the phone. It may crash in 20 years or 5 minutes but no one really knows. It should take many more writes than you'll ever give it.
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Related

Android rescue.zip project..

So i am here with a new idea. A rescue.zip which can be used to rescue any android device which have a recovery like the famous cwm.
So here is it..
Some times we people screw up our android os like hell, and to reboot the device we usualy do a recovery flash of a new os, flash back our nandroid backup ( both on worst conditions) or even do permission fix, clean cache or dalvic cache( those in 'not that worse' conditions) . So thats are all the options we got. Rit?
Although flashing recovery backups, new roms can fix all, it will also eatup our apps, current setups, contacts, msgs, etc( in case we dont have backups) and will probably screw us. All we can do is say " WTF..WTF..WTF.."
SO here is my idea,
Find out the causes of what causes a reboot, non-boot, hang,fc etc.
And keep a zip that can be flashed through recovery, that has a solution for our problem. They may be including..
1) fix permission of system, data, and user data.
2) zipalign the apps
3) fix the default clock speed of processor
4) defragment memory
5) flash a new copy of su and busy box
6)wipe data or system or ext or cache or dalvic cache
7) flash a new copy of framework.res, system-ui.apk, settings.apk with default permissions( those files are kept in separate "custom" folder on the zip, so that end user can put their own files to that "custom" folder for flashing., the reason behind it is known to all, yap. Not all devices have them in common, every device have its own files)
These are all i got for now, pls post ur ideas and knowledge for any possible cure about any problem u faced/ cured. So that we can make it an ultimate rescue.zip that have a cure for 99% problems android os have. The rest 1% will go with a clean flash.( well we cant avoid that if we did something that bad).
So my plan is to use aroma installer( now on hard learning to find how it works). Throw in some scripts, files etc. Into the zip.
And since its not a device specific .zip file, i want to know how and why any problems are caused in any device( there are many common problems, but that is not what i ask for. I ask for device/os specific problems, and not for a problem that we can cure after booting, but for a problem that can make the device un-bootable) . So u people may help me to find those problems and cures for it. For my knowledge i have experience with wildfire and hd2.
Well i will keep this thread for a week or two, so that u can post ur knowledge, and info. after that i will release the file for u.
To the admin. Of the forum, pls keep this thread as announcement so that all can take a look.
HYPERDROID EXTREEM EDITION-THE NEW BENCHMARK ROM FOR HD2.

Android rescue.zip project..

So i am here with a new idea. A rescue.zip which can be used to rescue any android device which have a recovery like the famous cwm.
So here is it..
Some times we people screw up our android os like hell, and to reboot the device we usualy do a recovery flash of a new os, flash back our nandroid backup ( both on worst conditions) or even do permission fix, clean cache or dalvic cache( those in 'not that worse' conditions) . So thats are all the options we got. Rit?
Although flashing recovery backups, new roms can fix all, it will also eatup our apps, current setups, contacts, msgs, etc( in case we dont have backups) and will probably screw us. All we can do is say " WTF..WTF..WTF.."
SO here is my idea,
Find out the causes of what causes a reboot, non-boot, hang,fc etc.
And keep a zip that can be flashed through recovery, that has a solution for our problem. They may be including..
1) fix permission of system, data, and user data.
2) zipalign the apps
3) fix the default clock speed of processor
4) defragment memory
5) flash a new copy of su and busy box
6)wipe data or system or ext or cache or dalvic cache
7) flash a new copy of framework.res, system-ui.apk, settings.apk with default permissions( those files are kept in separate "custom" folder on the zip, so that end user can put their own files to that "custom" folder for flashing., the reason behind it is known to all, yap. Not all devices have them in common, every device have its own files)
These are all i got for now, pls post ur ideas and knowledge for any possible cure about any problem u faced/ cured. So that we can make it an ultimate rescue.zip that have a cure for 99% problems android os have. The rest 1% will go with a clean flash.( well we cant avoid that if we did something that bad).
So my plan is to use aroma installer( now on hard learning to find how it works). Throw in some scripts, files etc. Into the zip.
And since its not a device specific .zip file, i want to know how and why any problems are caused in any device( there are many common problems, but that is not what i ask for. I ask for device/os specific problems, and not for a problem that we can cure after booting, but for a problem that can make the device un-bootable) . So u people may help me to find those problems and cures for it. For my knowledge i have experience with wildfire and hd2.
Well i will keep this thread for a week or two, so that u can post ur knowledge, and info. after that i will release the file for u.
To the admin. Of the forum, pls keep this thread as announcement so that all can take a look.
HYPERDROID EXTREEM EDITION-THE NEW BENCHMARK ROM FOR HD2.
I like Aroma, thanks for pointing that out! And yes... good idea... and a lot of work
Sorry but this is not development but merely an idea.
As soon as you have something that can be downloaded or something that shows active development (Git, sources, progress reports, individual scripts) then you can pm me to reopen the thread.
PS: You can also open such a thread in the general subforum.

[RECOVERY] Clockworkmod Recovery for ZTE V967S

DISCLAIMER:
Rooting your phone and using custom Recoveries and ROMS have risks and may result in bricking your device, and has nothing to do with Google or the device manufacturers. In case of any mishap I am not responsible if you brick/ruin your phone in any way.
Basic computer skills are required and minimal knowledges about phones and phones utilities too.
Make sure that whatever you do, you are doing it at your own responsibility.
I built from source a CWM Recovery, version 6.0.4.4 adapted by me to build in cm-10.1 environment, for ZTE V967S phone. I have to say Thank you to C3C076 for his help. He was kind to help me to figure out how to tweak building source for recovery, to obtain a compatible recovery. So, you should thank him, or even better to donate to him if you can. Now I improved the MTK compatibility, I fixed restore old recovery issue.
The CWM 6.0.4.4 recovery can be downloaded from downloads section. If you care enough, and you like what I did, after download just hit the Thanks button. If you use it or port it and ask other to hit Thanks for you, do the same here to show respect for my work.​It is fully functional: it works for flash zip, to wipe, mount (both internal and external sdcard), backup, restore, format to factory from phone settings menu, apply updates from stock ROM, etc.​If you share my compiled recovery on other sites or forums, please give proper credits for it!
CREDITS and THANKS
C3C076 for his help on tweaking recovery source.
bgcngm for his wonderful tool for unpacking and repacking img.
rua1 for MTK Droid Root & Tools.
dsixda for his Android Kitchen.
Cyanogenmod Team for their wonderful project.
Koushik for creating Clockworkmod Recovery and for constant improvement of it.
-- You really should thank to all of these guys or if you can to donate to them, because without their hard and fine work, we couldn't enjoy our phones as we should.
If you choose to use these, you are doing that on your own risk, and I can not be held responsible for any damage you made to your phone.
1. SPFlashTool backup ROM
A SPFlashTool prepared backup from last stock version 1.0.0 - 27.08.2013 for NonChina Market, if you need to unbrick your phone, or if you want to revert to stock. This version has English as default, and also include Chinese and Russian. It has root and custom CWM, otherwise is untouched. You have to flash this one with SPFlashTools. The scatter file is included.
3. A version prepared from last LewaOS v5 - only English - LewaMax v2.
Rooted, optimized, gapps included. The ROM will not change your recovery.
INSTALL INSTRUCTION:
Many people have problems with force closed processes because they don't flash a new ROM properly.
- In recovery, mount USB Mass storage and delete from sdcard these folders:
.android_secure
Android
LOSTDIR
- then back in recovery do a wipe all data/factory reset in CWM or Pre-Flash wipe in COT
- in CWM in advanced menu wipe Dalvik cache / in COT in storage management menu wipe Dalvik cache
- Now flash the ROM zip.
ATTENTION:
For extending data partition please refer to this source. It's better than my previous modd and I think it's safer. Thank you meteos.But, I recommend you to use top 2.5 Gb data partition size, and let remaining 237 Mb for sdcard failure situations.​
Here you will find MTKDroidTools of rua1's.
carliv said:
1. A SPFlashTool prepared backup from last stock version 1.0.5, if you need to unbrick your phone, or if you want to revert to stock. It has only root, otherwise is untouched. I removed from that the preloader, since is a high risk to damage your phone using that. But if someone need it I will send him private. You have to flash this one with SPFlashTools. The scatter file is included.
2. An optimized ROM, prepared from 1.0.5 stock version, ZTE V967S ROM Max Flavour v-2. Slimed, odexed (about 60Mb apps on data usage), zipaligned, busybox, debloated, multilingual (sort of), and some other things. I replaced the Launcher with SOLOLauncher because is lighter (only 5-6 Mb instead of 20) and have more features. I've tested it and it works flawless. You should flash it with CWM Recovery.
3. Will come a version prepared from last LewaOS v5 for MIUI fans.
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Good jobs :good::good:
carliv said:
- 2.5GB ZTE V967S P188F07 Max v2 full
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Hi Carliv, thank you very much for your rom. I am trying it and I am quite happy with that. I am only experiencing some problem with GPS: in some cases I was not able to switch on or switch off the GPS. Another thing that looks a little bit strange is that in YGPS -> Information the "chip version" is "UNKNOWN". With the sock ROM I am sure that the information about the chip version was displayed (MTK_GPS_.....). Have you the same issue?
Ciao.
pierangelof said:
Hi Carliv, thank you very much for your rom. I am trying it and I am quite happy with that. I am only experiencing some problem with GPS: in some cases I was not able to switch on or switch off the GPS. Another thing that looks a little bit strange is that in YGPS -> Information the "chip version" is "UNKNOWN". With the sock ROM I am sure that the information about the chip version was displayed (MTK_GPS_.....). Have you the same issue?
Ciao.
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No, I haven't any problem with GPS, and if you check GPS in YGPS with GPS switched ON it will show you chip version.
I don' understand where you can't swith on/off GPS: in quickpanel toggles, in settings locations... You don't say that. So, please, be more specific.
When I need GPS, I turn it ON, and it connects in about 3 sec. if I'm outside, or maybe 10 if I'm inside near a window.
Thanks for appreciations.
I'll try to help you if you give me more informations.
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One other thing, I noticed that if you use scheduled power off/on, you have to manualy restart the phone after self turning on, because the WIFI and GPS doesn't work properly... I don't know why, and I think this is a bug in 1.0.5 version.
hello ,
thanks for your support in our phone ZTE V967S
i have bought the phone from minideal.net with 1.0.3 MULTILANGUAGE, rooted and google play store version and chinese CWM, but i want to install 1.0.5 version
and ENGLISH cwm. does your 1.0.5 version support full GREEK language?
how to install CWM Recovery 6.0.3.5??
you gave us the scatter file, the usb drivers for ZTE and the recover.img.
but HOW to use them? give us full details
As i can understand with SLIM version you do not have Google Play Store installed.
right?
i want to install SLIM version to have battery improvement but i am a little afraid if sth goes wrong (someone says that the GPS is not
working perfectly and maybe some important things are missing) what is your opinion for SLIM version in general? will i have a problem if i install SLIM
compared with FULL?
also i want the 5GB userdata partition.. how to manage that?
maybe i need first flash 2.5GB ZTE V967S P188F07 Max_v2
and then flash again Extend2_5GBUserData.zip
RIGHT?
can i do it directly ??
gvekiaris said:
hello ,
thanks for your support in our phone ZTE V967S
i have bought the phone from minideal.net with 1.0.3 MULTILANGUAGE, rooted and google play store version and chinese CWM, but i want to install 1.0.5 version
and ENGLISH cwm. does your 1.0.5 version support full GREEK language?
how to install CWM Recovery 6.0.3.5??
you gave us the scatter file, the usb drivers for ZTE and the recover.img.
but HOW to use them? give us full details
As i can understand with SLIM version you do not have Google Play Store installed.
right?
i want to install SLIM version to have battery improvement but i am a little afraid if sth goes wrong (someone says that the GPS is not
working perfectly and maybe some important things are missing) what is your opinion for SLIM version in general? will i have a problem if i install SLIM
compared with FULL?
also i want the 5GB userdata partition.. how to manage that?
maybe i need first flash 2.5GB ZTE V967S P188F07 Max_v2
and then flash again Extend2_5GBUserData.zip
RIGHT?
can i do it directly ??
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You're welcome!
Now, let's see:
1. No ROM is full multilanguage, except the case that all apps have multilanguage support. Otherwise, my version is as much multilanguage as minideal version from what I've seen - I ported translations from a Lenovo P770 because is very much similar. You will have Greek just like in minideal version.
We can try togheter to make a better translation if other users want that; I can post here archives with xml files that have to be translated, you make translations, post here back and I could integrate them in a ROM. That way we can translate even SystemUI, which now isn't.
2. To install CWM the easy way is with SPFlashTools - all you need is the scatter and recovery.img. Of course, you have to install proper drivers before - you can find them in first post. How to use SPFlashTools I can't reproduce here because there are several guides on forum, here is one of them. Just one thing: if you find hard to enter the phone in bootloader, just remove the battery and connect the phone to computer without battery - it will enter in bootloader automate.
3. I don't have gapps in my phone SLIM ROM, but version posted to download has, because many of you use them - I don't. The GPS is working perfect for me, the only bug I found untill now, and don't think is related to my work, but to original release, is that if you use Scheduled power on & off, after phone starts from sleep you have to reboot manualy, otherwise Wifi and GPS won't work correctly. I hope they'll solve that in a next release like they did with camera flash. But, overall slim or full version shares the same drivers, modules and libraries, and only difference is in installed apps. The full version has stock launcher and weather, and live wallpapers, etc. The slim version don't have those things.
4. You can't use a 5GB userdata partition because the entire phone memory is 4GB. You can expand userdata to max. 2.7GB, but I provided a solution for 2.5, because in case o SDCard failure on mount/unmount or other event, the phone will use those 270 MB from internal storage to function properly until you fix sdcard, without losing data. There are some solutions to expand data partition on sdcard, but I didn't tried them and I can't say you how that works. My ROM with 2.5 GB support will repartition userdata for you during install, and when the phone boots up you will see internal storage 2.5 GB instead of 1GB.
Ok, That covers all your concerns. Thank you for appreciations.
1. for Greek Language i think i am ok... as i can understand you import multilanguage support from Lenovo P770. how minideal managed to have Multilanguage support for 1.0.3 ?
did they import from another phone too?
2. another solution to install English CWM recovery is with Mobileuncle MTK Tools. do you agree? but thanks for your help for SPFlashTools.
ZTE USB Driver.zip ,MT6589 drivers.zip, MT6589 USB VCOM drivers.7z. which of the 3 drivers to install in order my PC to recognize my
phone? how to enter CWM? what do i need to press?
3. i want to have your SLIM version but with Google Play Store installed. how can i do this?
Are we sure that the problem with WIFI and GPS not working correctly after phone starts from sleep (Scheduled power on & off) is a problem
of ORIGINAL version? maybe it is sth eith your rom.... can someone confirm that?
4. what is the purpose of Extend2_5GBUserData.zip ???
before i had Xperia Sole . because the internal available memory for installed apps and games was about 4 GB some people developed a
tool to swap the internal memory with the external SD card. in this way if someone has 16 GB external SD card he/she can install BIG games without capacity problems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36452468
how to succeed such thing with ZTE V967S ?
carliv said:
You're welcome!
Now, let's see:
1. No ROM is full multilanguage, except the case that all apps have multilanguage support. Otherwise, my version is as much multilanguage as minideal version from what I've seen - I ported translations from a Lenovo P770 because is very much similar. You will have Greek just like in minideal version.
We can try togheter to make a better translation if other users want that; I can post here archives with xml files that have to be translated, you make translations, post here back and I could integrate them in a ROM. That way we can translate even SystemUI, which now isn't.
2. To install CWM the easy way is with SPFlashTools - all you need is the scatter and recovery.img. Of course, you have to install proper drivers before - you can find them in first post. How to use SPFlashTools I can't reproduce here because there are several guides on forum, here is one of them. Just one thing: if you find hard to enter the phone in bootloader, just remove the battery and connect the phone to computer without battery - it will enter in bootloader automate.
3. I don't have gapps in my phone SLIM ROM, but version posted to download has, because many of you use them - I don't. The GPS is working perfect for me, the only bug I found untill now, and don't think is related to my work, but to original release, is that if you use Scheduled power on & off, after phone starts from sleep you have to reboot manualy, otherwise Wifi and GPS won't work correctly. I hope they'll solve that in a next release like they did with camera flash. But, overall slim or full version shares the same drivers, modules and libraries, and only difference is in installed apps. The full version has stock launcher and weather, and live wallpapers, etc. The slim version don't have those things.
4. You can't use a 5GB userdata partition because the entire phone memory is 4GB. You can expand userdata to max. 2.7GB, but I provided a solution for 2.5, because in case o SDCard failure on mount/unmount or other event, the phone will use those 270 MB from internal storage to function properly until you fix sdcard, without losing data. There are some solutions to expand data partition on sdcard, but I didn't tried them and I can't say you how that works. My ROM with 2.5 GB support will repartition userdata for you during install, and when the phone boots up you will see internal storage 2.5 GB instead of 1GB.
Ok, That covers all your concerns. Thank you for appreciations.
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i can not understand what is LewaOS v5 ??? what are the differences with your modded rom?
gvekiaris said:
1. for Greek Language i think i am ok... as i can understand you import multilanguage support from Lenovo P770. how minideal managed to have Multilanguage support for 1.0.3 ?
did they import from another phone too?
2. another solution to install English CWM recovery is with Mobileuncle MTK Tools. do you agree? but thanks for your help for SPFlashTools.
ZTE USB Driver.zip ,MT6589 drivers.zip, MT6589 USB VCOM drivers.7z. which of the 3 drivers to install in order my PC to recognize my
phone? how to enter CWM? what do i need to press?
3. i want to have your SLIM version but with Google Play Store installed. how can i do this?
Are we sure that the problem with WIFI and GPS not working correctly after phone starts from sleep (Scheduled power on & off) is a problem
of ORIGINAL version? maybe it is sth eith your rom.... can someone confirm that?
4. what is the purpose of Extend2_5GBUserData.zip ???
before i had Xperia Sole . because the internal available memory for installed apps and games was about 4 GB some people developed a
tool to swap the internal memory with the external SD card. in this way if someone has 16 GB external SD card he/she can install BIG games without problems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36452468
how to succeed such thing with ZTE V967S ?
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I don't know how minideal got their translation, maybe they did it, it's not that hard, there are 4 files to translate to every language, and other 2 if you want SystemUI too, but you have to know a lot of foreign languages. That's the reason I said we can make a better translation, but everyone have to translate from English to his language.
Yes, you can install recovery with MobileUncle but you have to be rooted and to have MobileUncle installed. The way I presented works even for untouched stock ROM. Don't matter which order you install drivers. Install them all one by one, and connect phone in normal boot and wait for windows to install previous drivers for the new device, then connect phone in bootloader and wait again for windows to install necesary drivers.
The slim version posted here is with gapps included, you don't have to do anything for that - I thought I made myself clear. The version without gapps I kept it for me, I didn't share it. Most people want gapps and there was no reason to upload a version without them. No, I don't think that refresh for GPS and wifi has anything to do with my intervention, it's related to the way the phone enter to sleep and wake up, because is not completely shut down. My guess is that on wake up, not all modules are started properly, and that's the reason a phone restart solve the problem: when Android starts all modules are loaded correctly.
The purpose of Extend2_5GBUserData.zip is, as I said in that post, that people who don't want to install any of my ROM with 2.5GB support, to achieve an extended partition while they keep their ROM: minideal, stock original, or others not shared by me.
I know about that thing with extend to sdcard, but I didn't tried yet, and from what I've seen compiling recovery, for this phone you need to unpack, repack recovery.img and boot.img too, to modify fstab, not only that from etc folder. So, it's a little bit more complicated. Some people made some scripts for that for this kind of phones but for different cpu. I can't help you with this matter, because I'm not interested in it. For me 2.5GB of internal memory is more than enough.
LewaOS v5 is a different framework, more like MIUI, but with different launcher type. I did a debloated version, because LewaOS is mainly for China, and they have a lot of chinese apps. The people that download it they know what is. I used to like it, but now, the ZTE ROM, optimized please me more.
thanks for your help. I am really appreciate this. so if I want to extend my internal storage to 2,5 GB directly to minideal modded rom version I need to flash Extend2_5GBUserData.zip via CWM. right? there is no need to install first your modded version.
how to connect my phone in bootlader mode???
so you propose me to install lite version. I will give a try when my phone come to my hands!!!
one more question maybe not suitable for this thread but I wll ask you. do you know to propose me good screen protectors and slim caces for ZTE V967s? I heard that V987 quad uses the same protectors and caces with V967s. is it true?
gvekiaris said:
thanks for your help. I am really appreciate this. so if I want to extend my internal storage to 2,5 GB directly to minideal modded rom version I need to flash Extend2_5GBUserData.zip via CWM. right? there is no need to install first your modded version.
how to connect my phone in bootlader mode???
so you propose me to install lite version. I will give a try when my phone come to my hands!!!
one more question maybe not suitable for this thread but I wll ask you. do you know to propose me good screen protectors and slim caces for ZTE V967s? I heard that V987 quad uses the same protectors and caces with V967s. is it true?
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Ok.
I don't use any screen protector. The screen is Gorilla Glass and you can't scratch it even if you want. Actually I can't find that info now, I've read that ZTE support answer that to a user. On official description is an IPS screen. But seems to be very hard. I've tested it with door key, really :good:
And the case... Mine came with some sillicone cheep case, I don't like it. I don't know if the case from v987 fits, because I know that v987 is 0.7mm thinner.
so you have this phone and you bought it from minideal.net. right?
you make me happy. but I am not sure for Gorilla Glass. the specifications does not mention that. and Greek guys say that is normal glass not Gorilla. are you sure for that? if you use your nails it will not scratch the screen.
also you have not answered me for Extend2_5GBUserData.zip
can I flash it directly to minideal modded version or is it necessary to flash your rom first?
about a slim case fitted exactly to our phone do you have sth in your mind to buy ?
also how do you find the photo and video quality of the camera?
thanks for all. you are great
carliv said:
Ok.
I don't use any screen protector. The screen is Gorilla Glass and you can't scratch it even if you want. I've tested it with door key, really :good:
And the case... Mine came with some sillicone cheep case, I don't like it. I don't know if the case from v987 fits, because I know that v987 is 0.7mm thinner.
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gvekiaris said:
so you have this phone and you bought it from minideal.net. right?
you make me happy. but I am not sure for Gorilla Glass. the specifications does not mention that. and Greek guys say that is normal glass not Gorilla. are you sure for that? if you use your nails it will not scratch the screen.
also you have not answered me for Extend2_5GBUserData.zip
can I flash it directly to minideal modded version or is it necessary to flash your rom first?
about a slim case fitted exactly to our phone do you have sth in your mind to buy ?
also how do you find the photo and video quality of the camera?
thanks for all. you are great
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Ok, I modified that to official infos, IPS screen. I've read that in an email support answer from ZTE, but I can't find now the source.
About Extended 2.5 GB I already told you two times, you can use it with any ROM, or to be specific: you can flash it on your minideal ROM.
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The same steps for those who want only to increase userdata partition, without installing any of my ROM. But you have to download Extend2_5GBUserData.zip from attachments....
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...The purpose of Extend2_5GBUserData.zip is, as I said in that post, that people who don't want to install any of my ROM with 2.5GB support, to achieve an extended partition while they keep their ROM: minideal, stock original, or others not shared by me....
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Damn, I thought my English wasn't that bad... Hm... I wonder, there are out there other people who don't understand me too?
I don't know any case because I don't use one, but I read somewhere, I don't remember where, about a leather case for it. I don't know more.
The camera is average, but I didn't expect much from it, I have a DSLR camera for photos.
Cheers.
sorry my friend. just wanted to be sure !!!! sorry if you repeat some things twice for me.
in what way do u extend the data size up to 2,5 gb ? is it dangerous for the phone or does it has any effect to the performance and speed of the phone?
about the screen I have read in the official specifications that it is IPS and not Gorilla glass.
but first as you said somewhere read that it is Gorilla. and secondly you tried with your nails and key to scratch the screen without damages. if the screnn was just IPS this would never happened. what to say?????
I am a little sad with the picture quality!!! never mind.
thanks
carliv said:
Ok, I modified that to official infos, IPS screen. I've read that in an email support answer from ZTE, but I can't find now the source.
About Extended 2.5 GB I already told you two times, you can use it with any ROM, or to be specific: you can flash it on your minideal ROM.
Damn, I thought my English wasn't that bad... Hm... I wonder, there are out there other people who don't understand me too?
I don't know any case because I don't use one, but I read somewhere, I don't remember where, about a leather case for it. I don't know more.
The camera is average, but I didn't expect much from it, I have a DSLR camera for photos.
Cheers.
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gvekiaris said:
sorry my friend. just wanted to be sure !!!! sorry if you repeat some things twice for me.
in what way do u extend the data size up to 2,5 gb ? is it dangerous for the phone or does it has any effect to the performance and speed of the phone?
about the screen I have read in the official specifications that it is IPS and not Gorilla glass.
but first as you said somewhere read that it is Gorilla. and secondly you tried with your nails and key to scratch the screen without damages. if the screnn was just IPS this would never happened. what to say?????
I am a little sad with the picture quality!!! never mind.
thanks
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Well, the method for repartitioning is presented here by meteos. You just need to modify in hex editor some values for Extended Boot Records EBR1 and EBR2. It's not dangerous if you don't make mistakes and enter some values that extend userdata more than 2.7 GB, and that wipe some portion of primary partition. In that case you will have a bricked phone and you can repair it, only by reflashing entire ROM in SPFlashTool.
EBR is for logical partition (userdata, phone storage or internal sdcard) and MBR for primary partition (Boot, Recovery, System..).
My archives are safe, and I've tested both myself without any problem. I'm using now a slim ROM with 2.5GB userdata (internal memory).
You're welcome.
thanks for your help.
you are always helpfull.
if you have any news for new scripts which swap the internal memory with our external SD card memory just inform us..
did you try to play heavy games? does the phone play them smoothly?
if you increase the storage to 2,5 gb what do you choose in storage option : auto , sd or internal storage?
a greek friend of me tried your SLIM rom. he said it is very LIGHT and FAST. But he has problem to select GREEK keyboard. he selects greek keyboard but the choice can not be saved. please try to fix this!!!
carliv said:
Well, the method for repartitioning is presented here by meteos. You just need to modify in hex editor some values for Extended Boot Records EBR1 and EBR2. It's not dangerous if you don't make mistakes and enter some values that extend userdata more than 2.7 GB, and that wipe some portion of primary partition. In that case you will have a bricked phone and you can repair it, only by reflashing entire ROM in SPFlashTool.
EBR is for logical partition (userdata, phone storage or internal sdcard) and MBR for primary partition (Boot, Recovery, System..).
My archives are safe, and I've tested both myself without any problem. I'm using now a slim ROM with 2.5GB userdata (internal memory).
You're welcome.
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gvekiaris said:
thanks for your help.
you are always helpfull.
if you have any news for new scripts which swap the internal memory with our external SD card memory just inform us..
did you try to play heavy games? does the phone play them smoothly?
if you increase the storage to 2,5 gb what do you choose in storage option : auto , sd or internal storage?
a greek friend of me tried your SLIM rom. he said it is very LIGHT and FAST. But he has problem to select GREEK keyboard. he selects greek keyboard but the choice can not be saved. please try to fix this!!!
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Ok, sorry for late answer. I was busy to update recovery to 6.0.3.6 version.
Now, I don't have time to play games, I never installed one in my phone, so.. I don't know how they work in it.
The increased storage is for memory (if you install heavy apps which needs a lot of memory, they use that as virtual memory). I select always sdcard in storage options as default.
I don't know why your friend has trouble to set greek keyboard. I selected it, test it, reboot phone - still there. To select: Settings - Language & Input - KEYBOARD & INPUT METHODS - Android keyboard settings - select only languages you use and deselect others - go back - Default - select Greek - exit - done.
I know it's light and fast, I wanted to be.
LewaOS.. can you port a asop like rom? like bgcngm v970 is very good..
god_md5 said:
LewaOS.. can you port a asop like rom? like bgcngm v970 is very good..
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LewaOS is not ported, it's only optimized.
The stock optimized version is on aosp base.

[Q] To root or not to root for update

Hi
I have a Samsung Galaxy GT-I5801 with me for past couple of years.
Its current OS spec are:
Firmware version- 2.2
Baseband version- I5801DDJP2
Kernel version- 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #2
Build Number- FROYO.DDJP6
My phone has become kind of slow, like for even basic tasks like opening call log or messaging app, it takes good 10-15 seconds. Sometimes it even goes unresponsive when trying to end a call thus causing call to continue thus carrier balance reduction. There are no 3rd party apps installed on it. Even updating the pre-installed apps gives the message of memory being low.
Now my query is:
Will flashing it to a custom ROM will improve its working at least in the basic areas of call and texting?
If so, then which is the most suitable custom ROM?
Is it necessary to root the phone before flashing it ?
Which tool is best/easiest for said purposes?
Please go easy on me, I've been out of the IT and tech game since past 1 year and bit rusty on these things
RudraP said:
Will flashing it to a custom ROM will improve its working at least in the basic areas of call and texting?
If so, then which is the most suitable custom ROM?
Is it necessary to root the phone before flashing it ?
Which tool is best/easiest for said purposes?
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I would say yes. I don't know what is causing the freezes, but (beside that this could also be a hardware problem) a custom ROM should fix that.
Any GB-based ROM should do a fine job. There are also Froyo-based ROMs for our device. The CM7.2 build by marcellusbe does a very good job.
Nope. If you flash via Odin (Flash-Software for Windows) you just need a usb-connection. If you flash it via recovery, you may need to flash a custom recovery first.
Derp - another proud Galaxy3 user :highfive:
DerpyDerp said:
I would say yes. I don't know what is causing the freezes, but (beside that this could also be a hardware problem) a custom ROM should fix that.
Any GB-based ROM should do a fine job. There are also Froyo-based ROMs for our device. The CM7.2 build by marcellusbe does a very good job.
Nope. If you flash via Odin (Flash-Software for Windows) you just need a usb-connection. If you flash it via recovery, you may need to flash a custom recovery first.
Derp - another proud Galaxy3 user :highfive:
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I tried SuperOneClick but it failed to even detect my phone, let alone root. Tried rooting directly through phone by installing z4root on it. It too failed to root my device, just a blue screen saying "Running Exploit" with z4mod logo kept on displaying for 10-15 minutes, after which phone switched off itself. Had to power it back on myself. Tried it couple of times more but no success.
So now if I use Odin to directly flash the firmware to a modded one, would it work, considering the fact that the phone hasn't been rooted. More importantly, would it be wise to do so? Don't want to hard brick the device as its my backup device after my Xperia SP took a plunge in the water and now fails to even boot, just vibrates thrice and that's it.
Update:
Took a leap of faith with Odin and Cyanogen & now the device is rockin' like a grandma with a new hip replacement Lags no more, operation is smooth, but a 2nd minor problem has cropped up.
It now refuses to install any app from Play Store citing Insufficient Space. I changed the default installation space to external but still the problem persists.
Update 2:
For my above mentioned problem, looks like something to do with Gapps but I don't know what it is and what to do about it. Moreover as today I tried to make calls or send messages, I found out I'm unable to do so. The dialler dials after good 2-3 minutes of pressing/selecting the dial option for a number while message inbox is empty but it refuses the receive any sms citing Inbox is full. I thought just flashing the firmware should do the trick but looks like it just was the tip of the iceberg.
You can find the gapps (Google Apps - like Play Store, Gmail, ...) here:
http://goo.im/gapps/
Assuming you're on Gingerbread (CM 7.x) it's this package: http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
Put this zip-file on your SD card, power off your phone and/or reboot to recovery. Navigate to "Select zip from sd card" -> select your gapps.zip and flash. Then "wipe cache" and "wipe dalvik cache" anywhere in the submenus Just to make sure the gapps get recognized correctly.
Another trick for expanding the internal storage is Link2SD. You need a 2-partition sd-card for this. 1. partition with FAT and 2. one with ext2/3/4
Link2SD will mount this second partition to the internal storage to expand your storage for apps and other system stuff.
You know... Getting the most of a half-dead low-end device needs a bit of geekiness
bad zip
Well I selected erase all data option in the phone which booted it into recovery mode. Here I cleared the cache and the user data. When I tried to install zip file from sd card it gave the following error message, "Can't open /sdcard/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip (bad) Installation Aborted"
What seems to be the problem now?
Update:
Tried again and this time it worked. Now everything is running fine. Thanks a ton for the help mate, can't express my gratitude through words.
I do want to ask one thing here.
If I install this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803180, will the JB experience be coupled with performance drop ?
Honestly Cyanogen has turned me into a junkie, now I want to try on the new but stable mods. Moreover as my Xperia SP is now out of warranty, I'm planning to get it fixed and then root and flash it too!

[DISCUSSION] LineageOS 17.1 [HLTE/CHN/KOR/TMO][OFFICIAL]

Can we continue to discuss topics about the new - big thx to devs, btw! - official 17.1 version in this thread, pls?
(I know the differences to the unofficial version(s) might be minimal - or even null? - however I think it's always of value to be as clear, sharp and crisp avoiding ambiguities, esp. for folks who are not too familiar with the different contexts)
BTW: just for the record my (dirty) upgrade path from lineage-16.0-20201003-nightly-hlte-signed.zip version to lineage-17.1-20201010-nightly-hlte-signed.zip was as follows:
DLed / copied off my NAS the files of lineage-17.1-20201010-nightly-hlte-signed.zip, open_gapps-arm-10.0-nano-20201010.zip and Magisk v20.4 to external SD)
Let the system DL and install recent pending updates
Rebooted into Recovery (twrp-3.4.0-1-hlte)
Created a nandroid backup of Boot, System, Data and EFS partition to internal SD (and copied those to the external SD, plus a further copy to my NAS)
Wiped Dalvik / ART Cache, System and Cache partition
Installed LOS and GApps
(Dirty) Rebooted into System letting the system run a couple of minutes, checking for updates etc.
Rebooted into Recovery
Installed Magisk
Wiped Dalvik / ART Cache
Rebooted into System
(Enabled systemless host file in Magisk to support Adaway Adblocker app)
PS: This thread has been moved off the Development Folder by a Forum Moderator
Quick questions:
1. Does that AdAway work well?
2. Does automatic dark mode work for you? I have to turn it on manually. Maybe due to turned off GPS so it can't get my location and set sunrise and sunset times?
asassello said:
Quick questions:
1. Does that AdAway work well?
2. Does automatic dark mode work for you? I have to turn it on manually. Maybe due to turned off GPS so it can't get my location and set sunrise and sunset times?
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1 : yes
2 : yes..update maybe your modem
re 1: yes2 (using it quite some time on various devices and it seems to do what I expect it should do, though some apps seem to bypass the 'normal' DNS resolution. OT: And I'm still haven't made up my mind yet if DoH or DoT are good or bad ...)
re 2: dark mode? What's that?
rayman95 said:
1 : yes
2 : yes..update maybe your modem
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Are you sure NFC works? I mean paying in shops? I updated modem and now it's N9005XXUGPQB1. And paying still doesn't work. I've just tried.
odoll said:
re 2: dark mode? What's that?
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Sorry. It's dark theme (I don't have English set as default language). [emoji846]
installation error
https://download.lineageos.org/hltetmo
Can somebody please confirm that paying through NFC works? If so - what's your modem and baseband?
Also I've installed GAPPS PICO maybe that's the case? Although on LOS 16 I also had Pico and it worked, but maybe I'm missing some app like Google search or something?
Been using Lineage OS 16 ever since it was officially released for HLTE. I gotta say, the development of that release has came a long way and by the time of writing this, I'd say it's the most stable and clean custom rom for the Note 3 out there.
I did try the new release the second I received a notification for an update. How did it go? Well let's just say I'm glad I created a full system backup before wiping LOS 16. This new release is still very buggy, unpolished and missing a lot of features. Nothing that will render your phone unusable, but compared to 16, it doesn't stand a chance, which is understandable.
I do appreciate all of the time that the devs are still willing to put into the platform. However I'd recommend users that are looking for a rock stable experience to stick with Lineage OS 16 for the time. You're not missing out on a lot.
loudseries said:
This new release is still very buggy, unpolished and missing a lot of features. Nothing that will render your phone unusable, but compared to 16, it doesn't stand a chance, which is understandable.
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I think your statement will get more weight, when it will be supported with some facts:
It'd be helpful if you would underpin your statement with some of your findings about e.g. which bugs you found and which features you are missing!? thx
odoll said:
I think your statement will get more weight, when it will be supported with some facts:
It'd be helpful if you would underpin your statement with some of your findings about e.g. which bugs you found and which features you are missing!? thx
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I have to agree with you, because except my 2 issues (with NFC payments and night mode that doesn't switch automatically) I actually don't have any other problems.
Ver. 17 seems faster and snappier than 16.
Also on 16 sometimes sharing from ie. Firefox to WhatsApp caused the later one not loading (just black screen).
So for me only that NFC seems to be a real issue. Other than that I'd advice anyone trying 17.
made a clean flash with nanodroid and last lolz..the rom is mostly usable ..
got sometimes, not often some little freezes and stock music stop..otherwise it's reliable
both options, stay on 16.0 for stability or move to 17.1 are possible...
rayman95 said:
made a clean flash with nanodroid and last lolz..the rom is mostly usable ..
got sometimes, not often some little freezes and stock music stop..otherwise it's reliable
both options, stay on 16.0 for stability or move to 17.1 are possible...
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for me the only difference is the size of the home screen changed (changed trebuchet to a larger grid before), otherwise i would not even have noticed it is not 16 anymore, rock stable even after a dirty flash
rayman95 said:
made a clean flash with nanodroid and last lolz..the rom is mostly usable ..
got sometimes, not often some little freezes and stock music stop..otherwise it's reliable
both options, stay on 16.0 for stability or move to 17.1 are possible...
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Yea,i have the same issue . Sometimes works okey and sometimes phone is just unresponsive, freezing. Youtube vanced most of the time stuck while screen is turned off ect.
Some really weird stuff there but I'm sure all will be okej later on.
Btw what BL and CP u using?
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Yea,i have the same issue . Sometimes works okey and sometimes phone is just unresponsive, freezing. Youtube vanced most of the time stuck while screen is turned off ect. Some really weird stuff there but I'm sure all will be okej later on.
Btw what BL and CP u using?
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I'm on PQB1 nordic modem and BRL1 bootloader.
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I'm on PQB1 nordic modem and BRL1 bootloader.
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Have the same as you . I thought it could be bootloader issue but guess not.
Thx
Dirt update and no more freezes issues...I don't know if it's a the new rom or the dirt update... Anyway, but now got dl issues..browser fc when I want to dl a file...
odoll said:
Can we continue to discuss topics about the new - big thx to devs, btw! - official 17.1 version in this thread, pls?
(I know the differences to the unofficial version(s) might be minimal - or even null? - however I think it's always of value to be as clear, sharp and crisp avoiding ambiguities, esp. for folks who are not too familiar with the different contexts)
BTW: just for the record my (dirty) upgrade path from lineage-16.0-20201003-nightly-hlte-signed.zip version to lineage-17.1-20201010-nightly-hlte-signed.zip was as follows:
DLed / copied off my NAS the files of lineage-17.1-20201010-nightly-hlte-signed.zip, open_gapps-arm-10.0-nano-20201010.zip and Magisk v20.4 to external SD)
Let the system DL and install recent pending updates
Rebooted into Recovery (twrp-3.4.0-1-hlte)
Created a nandroid backup of Boot, System, Data and EFS partition to internal SD (and copied those to the external SD, plus a further copy to my NAS)
Wiped Dalvik / ART Cache, System and Cache partition
Installed LOS and GApps
(Dirty) Rebooted into System letting the system run a couple of minutes, checking for updates etc.
Rebooted into Recovery
Installed Magisk
Wiped Dalvik / ART Cache
Rebooted into System
(Enabled systemless host file in Magisk to support Adaway Adblocker app)
PS: This thread has been moved off the Development Folder by a Forum Moderator
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Hello. I have the latest version of LineageOS 16 installed and TWRP (3.3.1.0). I ask you if, after transferring the ROM file to the phone, it is possible to use TWRP to upgrade to 17.1 (by installing the zip file) or if I have to use ADB shell (as it says on the LineageOS official site).
Sorry I'm not an expert and some steps are not clear to me
Thank you
PS
Why you wrote "dirty"
(Dirty) Rebooted into System letting the system run a couple of minutes, checking for updates etc.
Hi Apten
i) think your Qs won't need a full quote
ii) drity flashing
iii) sure you can DL the ROM (and TWRP) to your (internal RAM) of your phone and upgrade or clean install from recovery (twrp)
rayman95 said:
Dirt update and no more freezes issues...I don't know if it's a the new rom or the dirt update... Anyway, but now got dl issues..browser fc when I want to dl a file...
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I've just dirty updated from 1010 to 1017 build . Will see how it goes later on.
Just tested with chrome downloading lineage and no issue with Fc

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