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KitKat BBS partial wakelocks stats need root now!

Anyone else noticed that Better Battery Stats now needs root to show partial wakelock statistics ?
On 4.3 I could see those statistics without root, but on KitKat it says I need root
Is it me or is Samsung trying harder to 'stealth' their background running apps ? (like Knox which shoots to 25% CPU usage as soon as the screen is turned off)..

This is a Kitkat "feature" and has nothing to do with Samsung. Except that Samsung updated to Kitkat.
http://en.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1py0wg/battery_statistics_in_android_44_kitkat/

d33f said:
Anyone else noticed that Better Battery Stats now needs root to show partial wakelock statistics ?
On 4.3 I could see those statistics without root, but on KitKat it says I need root
Is it me or is Samsung trying harder to 'stealth' their background running apps ? (like Knox which shoots to 25% CPU usage as soon as the screen is turned off)..
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hi ,
if you want to use an alternative to Betterbattery stats ...???
that does work on Kitkat ( with a small adb hack , very easy to do ,
no root required ) ,if you do not understand how to install ask and i will try and help ? )
.....Wakelock Detector .I am using it on v 4.4.2 with the hack and working 100%
For those who is interested link......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2179651&page=34
post # 338 see ( developer ) ..akhitmat post .
He sets out in post what to do !
It is better than having nothing to check apps hogging , battery /wakelocks etc
good luck
Post note
Also on kitkat ( if you don't know , apps like Quickpic cannot access and copy /transfer to sd card
also es file explorer also cannot)
i have found using Samsungs onboard Kitkat "My files " explorer you can access Sd card and complete these functions quickpic and es file explorer, can't do !

willcor said:
hi ,
if you want to use an alternative to Betterbattery stats ...???
that does work on Kitkat ( with a small adb hack , very easy to do ,
no root required ) ,if you do not understand how to install ask and i will try and help ? )
.....Wakelock Detector .I am using it on v 4.4.2 with the hack and working 100%
For those who is interested link......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2179651&page=34
post # 338 see ( developer ) ..akhitmat post .
He sets out in post what to do !
It is better than having nothing to check apps hogging , battery /wakelocks etc
good luck
Post note
Also on kitkat ( if you don't know , apps like Quickpic cannot access and copy /transfer to sd card
also es file explorer also cannot)
i have found using Samsungs onboard Kitkat "My files " explorer you can access Sd card and complete these functions quickpic and es file explorer, can't do !
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Thanks I will try Luckely it seems that 4.4 isn't suffering from the same amount of wakelocks I had on 4.3

A Few final queries

I am sure these have been answered at different places on the forums but please clarify on these points...
1. OTG support ..Those with Kikats can access otg fully (read/ write/ read again without reboots) and if yes Does it needs root access or unlocked bootloader?
2. Free space...I gather I will have 12 gb free space on the device ...Can I install apps on all 12gb or is the app install memory is limited by partition?
3. Screen Cast/ mirroring...Does the kitkat enables it by default?
P.S I would prefer not to root/unlock BL the device for atleast a month Just to make sure everything is working finee...

1. I have not tried it but what i read is that on Kit Kat you need a third-Party-app. On 4.3 it was working, so i had read.
2. The 8 GB version has approximately 5.5 GB free
3. There is (4.4.2) a cast screen option in settings. It said no nearby devices when i clocked it once. Never used it . Seems like it is enabled.

mokkami said:
1. I have not tried it but what i read is that on Kit Kat you need a third-Party-app. On 4.3 it was working, so i had read.
2. The 8 GB version has approximately 5.5 GB free
3. There is (4.4.2) a cast screen option in settings. It said no nearby devices when i clocked it once. Never used it . Seems like it is enabled.
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I don't mind a 3rd party app as long as it does not need Root access
Sent from Samsung Chat

Can not test it for you, sry.
First i am rooted and secondary i forgot my phone at friends place.
But maybe just go into the play store and search for it.
It might be (or also not) mentioned in the app description.

Do you happen to know this 3rd party app's name?

USB OTG Helper is one of these
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IMPORTANT - ROOTED devices ONLY!!
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Another one is Stickmount, also root needed.
Here is a thread.

Ah well Thanks buddy Looks like it won't just cut without rooting....the only reason I was thinking of otg was that the 16 gb version is out of stock here so I was looking into 8 gb ...anyway now I will just wait for 16 gb

jaspreet997 said:
Do you happen to know this 3rd party app's name?
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nexus media importer is the app( no root)!

jaspreet997 said:
I am sure these have been answered at different places on the forums but please clarify on these points...
1. OTG support ..Those with Kikats can access otg fully (read/ write/ read again without reboots) and if yes Does it needs root access or unlocked bootloader?
2. Free space...I gather I will have 12 gb free space on the device ...Can I install apps on all 12gb or is the app install memory is limited by partition?
3. Screen Cast/ mirroring...Does the kitkat enables it by default?
P.S I would prefer not to root/unlock BL the device for atleast a month Just to make sure everything is working finee...
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1. yes,on my xt1033 kitkat asian retail,there even an option for format external drive. i dont know why ppl say kitkat have no usb otg,i just need oi file manager and otg cable,tried on mouse as well.
2. yes,virtually all of it can be use to install apps.
3.i seen the option under display option,never use it.

nickchk said:
1. yes,on my xt1033 kitkat asian retail,there even an option for format external drive. i dont know why ppl say kitkat have no usb otg,i just need oi file manager and otg cable,tried on mouse as well.
2. yes,virtually all of it can be use to install apps.
3.i seen the option under display option,never use it.
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Thank you very much
Sent from Samsung Chat

abhirulz94 said:
nexus media importer is the app( no root)!
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Looks promising ...would check it out when I get the device..

to prove my point(stop stupid ppl from saying kitkat moto g have no otg)
i gonna use just otg cable and stock oi file manager

@nickchk sweet ....so you can read and write on the usb drive.....Basically Some users (not necessarily stupid) had an issue with writing ..Others cud not access the pendrive again once removed without a reboot

nickchk said:
to prove my point(stop stupid ppl from saying kitkat moto g have no otg)
i gonna use just otg cable and stock oi file manager
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Not stupid people, just people with a different firmware on the phone. There is definitely no native USB OTG support on current UK 4.4.2 stock firmwares (or a Stock File Explorer for that matter). So it looks like Motorola enabled it for the later release in Asia - lucky folk. Hopefully they will see fit to push an OTA to other variants to enable the feature.
In the meantime for a cost Nexus Media Importer works fine for non-rooted devices without native support (read / write)

Cast Screen option Pointless!!!!
Did anyone realise?!
There was supposed to be a menu option in the Cast Screen Settings
its through the menu that allows You to cast the screen to wirelessly stream video and audio
This " Cast Screen" option has no point at all on the Moto G, it does not make any sense???
Look here:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e4e6d28297

[Root] Space Machine : Run Android from your SD Card

Hello there! I have been working this app for last few weeks. Its a Rooted app named "Mobile In SDCard" which allows you to:
Run mobile apps from SD Card directly.
Its highly Portable. One can take the SD Card and plug-it in with another mobile! All your apps,contacts,mail will be available for use. Just like the original mobile.
Increased Internal storage, depending on size of SD Card.
Removable Internal Storage, by this one can hide apps.
Backup mobile in SD Card and use.
Simple two step configuration.
Unleash the Real root power!​I plan to release beta-version this Friday and looking for Beta-testers. If you are interested, please let me know. I tested this only with Android-4.4 Moto-E (1st gen) and 2nd Gen. Rooted using TWRP method.
For updates , created a new group "Lonely Root" https://plus.google.com/communities/113253726177871964982
thanks!
EDIT:
Here's the download link https://play.google.com/apps/testing/in.co.giis.SpaceMachine for beta-testing. You need to join above G+ group to use this link. Cheers!
ps: If this is misplaced - please move the thread to right location. thanks!

Please remember to backup critical data before checking this app.
Steps:
1 - Overview gives current Internal storage (Click on it to verify)
2 - Configure SD Card, first step is enable root access. Now select your removable SD Card from drop-down or perform auto-detect.
With auto-detect you need to remove and re-insert the SD Card. It should appear on the drop-down, then hit save.
3 - You need to format the selected drive to complete the configuration. WARNING: If you not 200% sure about the device name, please don't proceed with format.
4 - Flexible Space will tell you the total SD Card size and current used space. Allowed space is always 4GB more than current
Internal Storage. (First 4GB is free and remaining comes with In-app purchase). Go ahead and click on button to start the cloning
process. It took approx 5 minutes to clone/sync 2GB data into Samsung class-8 micro SD Card.
If everything goes right, device will be rebooted with new removable internal storage!
Please verify import apps like contacts,mail,Gallery. Some apps may ask you re-initialize data (like whatsapp), but this should
be one time step. Later when you use portable mode, no extra effort needed.
5 - If things are working fine, with flexible space. If you have similar rooted mobile, then insert the SD Card on mobile-2 then
Configure the device but don't format the drive. Just go ahead and click portable space . Now this rooted mobile will directly
from SD Card! If you don't have similar rooted device, try another SD Card repeat above steps. Now you have multiple SD Card
that run your device
Remember, If you reboot the device, your original device will be restored. Only when you click flexible or portable the mobile will run from SD Card. Other its normal mobile with attached SD Card.
I'll try to create video of these step in a day or two. Thanks for the support!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBaMaQroVusBasic installation screencasting

great jobs sir
by the way, its like portable OS...right?

Thanks.
>portable OS.
yes and no.
yes - because all the user apps will become portable and some system apps. You can take the SD Card and use it another Mobile - All your data is there!
no - Few system apps/binaries are not cloned. Since they are tied closely with hardware (like device uuid etc).
It would be challenging to make the system apps work, depending up-on the 'Space Machine' response, I'll take this challenge At-least improve current situation.

Great job sir... will this work on rooted tabs also? shall we test it on tab? I have a karbonn ST10 tab, in which I want to test it with 16gb samsung memory card...Please advice..

I think rooted tab should be fine. But I looked into 'karbonn ST10 tab' Android version - it uses 4.1 - is that right? . Android- 4.1 is little different. If I'm not wrong, current version should work fine for versions like 4.3, 4.4, 5.0.0, 5.1.0, 5.1.1, 6.0.1.
I'll look into support for version 4.1 in upcoming versions. I've a feeling, it should be easier than 4.4 because Android started to tighten things with higher versions.

I'm on Moto e 2014, cm13 with adopted SD...will it be of any help to me?

Looks like cm13 is equivalent to Android 6.0.1 . Adopted SD is same removable SD Card right? If so , I think it should work. Please take a backup of critical mobile internal and external data & apps before trying it. It's in beta-release mode tested only with Android-4.4 Moto-e 2014. Please be 200% sure of the device name before formatting the removable SD Card.

Hello, I'm looking for help with Android version 4.3/5.0 and 5.1 - Looks like there is lot of 4.4 rooted mobile just like me

Hi, I can't browse ur g+ link.
it show me- The requested URL was not found on this server.
Please check your g+ link.

Strange , Just now I accessed it from my network. Here is the Community link:
https://plus.google.com/communities/113253726177871964982
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After join this group you can access play store URL. thanks

I updated the app with fixes for Android-M. Test results so far:
4.4 - Works
5.0 - Status Unknown
5.1 - Status Unknown
6.0.1 - Partially works. (Hopefully, it will be working with latest patch).
If you have 5.0/5.1 rooted device and interested in Running mobile from your SD Card, please have a look the app and share the status/bugs. thanks!

Test Results so far:
4.1.2 - Fail
4.4.4 - Pass
5.0 - Unknown
5.1 - Unknown
6.0 - Fails with older version. I'm hoping it works with latest code.
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Not looking good. If it stays this way, I plan make initial release for only 4.4 version(thus play store doesn't show the app on other OS version). And add support another OS in next releases based on further work & tests.

ngm2378 said:
I'm on Moto e 2014, cm13 with adopted SD...will it be of any help to me?
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Yes, Now Its working on 6.0 I think should work cm13 - Please give it a try

This is for sure a great work
Two weakness:
1)Performance
You know, eMMc is way faster than a sdcard and move almost an entire system could result in a very slow device.
2)From the video I seen that it's necessary to remove and then insert again the sdcard.
For lot of devices, like mine too, it's impossible to remove the sdcard without removing the battery too so...power off
Sent from my Y550-L01 using Tapatalk

I have rooted devices that run 5.0 and 5.1, I'll give this a test when I get home and let you know how it goes. May be a while, though, lol. Wifey has plans for today...

Hacker432 said:
This is for sure a great work
Two weakness:
1)Performance
You know, eMMc is way faster than a sdcard and move almost an entire system could result in a very slow device.
2)From the video I seen that it's necessary to remove and then insert again the sdcard.
For lot of devices, like mine too, it's impossible to remove the sdcard without removing the battery too so...power off
Sent from my Y550-L01 using Tapatalk
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I agree on the (1). Performance will be slow. Probably faster (class-10) sdcards might improve the situation.
2) Removing and Insert again is optional target for users who are not sure about device name. If you know the device name , selecting from drop-down & save should be enough to proceed.

glaks said:
I agree on the (1). Performance will be slow. Probably faster (class-10) sdcards might improve the situation.
2) Removing and Insert again is optional target for users who are not sure about device name. If you know the device name , selecting from drop-down & save should be enough to proceed.
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Good to know
Sent from my Y550-L01 using Tapatalk

NepoRood said:
I have rooted devices that run 5.0 and 5.1, I'll give this a test when I get home and let you know how it goes. May be a while, though, lol. Wifey has plans for today...
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Sure, thanks.. Running it 5.0 & 5.1 would be great. So far, we tested this on 4.4 & 6.0. Results for 5.0/5.1 is completely unknown and currently in-progress.

[GUIDE] WhatsApp Folder, Download Folder etc. on External Storage with Xposed (ROOT)

There's one thing I hate about living in Germany. It's that we never get the high storage capacity models of most Smartphone models. We always get the base models with 16 or 32 Gigabytes of internal storage. But the ads and people working at the big stores will tell you "Well, you can put a microSD card in it". Screw you, you idiot! We both know it won't help me! I need high storage because games have become huge and WhatsApp folders are at least 2 - 3 Gigabytes since the introduction of animated GIFs. We also know that Google's adoptable storage is A) complete BS B) it's disabled on almost all Samsung devices and C) even if you enable it, it doesn't work the way it's supposed to on Samsung devices. More on that some other time. We also know that moving apps to external storage doesn't do crap because it only moves 50 or 60 Megabytes which is completely useless if you ask me. So, here's my guide.
This should work on any ROM, be it AOSP or TW and Android version higher than 5.0.
Tested working on:
Samsung Galaxy S3 running LineageOS 14.2 (Android 7.1.2)
Samsung Galaxy S4 running deodexed Android 5.0.2
Samsung Galaxy S7 (Edge) running stock Android.
Samsung Galaxy S7 (Edge) running SuperMan ROM 2.7.x with SuperStock Kernel 2.10.x.
What you're going to need:
MAKE A F*#?!85 BACKUP OF ANYTHING YOU'RE GOING TO TOUCH!
- Root isn't necessary but advised.
- TWRP.
- Official Xposed Framework.
- XinternalSD.
- If your on a stock ROM or you know the ROM you're running doesn't have an SD card fix (RW for external storage) implemented, we're also gonna need Marshmallow SD fix. Don't get confused by the name. It works on Lollipop and Nougat, too.
- Alternatively you can use SDFix: KitKat Writable MicroSD by NextApp, inc. (FX File Explorer). This also works on Marshmallow but I haven't tested it on Nougat.
- Don't forget to enable XinternalSD and Marshmallow SD fix, if you chose to use it in Xposed Installers Modules menu!
After you've successfully installed all the steps above do the following:
- Open a File Explorer of your choice and move the WhatsApp folder to you external Storage.
- Open XinternalSD and tap on "Enable for apps".
- In this list you're going to want to check the box for WhatsApp.
- Reboot (Not sure if necessary. Just for good measure) and you're done.
- Test to see if new media is stored on external storage.
To store downloaded files from Chrome directly on external storage do the following:
- Open XinternalSD and tap on "Enable for apps".
- In this list, check the box for "Chrome".
- Reboot for good measure and you should be done.
This method works for almost any app, but to quote @MBariya
But supports only in that apps which has location modification option only in internal sd...
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To be fair, his statement is from 2014. A lot of things changed since then. Maybe it's obsolete. I don't know, I'm not an engineer.

I reply here because I spent a lot of time searching through very old posts and trying outdated methods. I didn't know that actually today there is a very easy solution to move whatsapp media folder to SD card. It perfectly worked on my Samsung Galaxy A3 A320FL with Oreo:
1) Root (I used twrp + magisk method)
2) Download "App2SD" (the original by Vicky Bonick; it's free) and follow instructions on how to create partitions
3) Use "folder mount (app analyzer)" feature, which apparently was not considered in the old posts in this forum, so I suppose it was recently added to App2SD.
It's like folder mount, but it's pre-set for some common apps, including Whatsapp. With this feature, you can successfully move Whatsapp media folder to SD, in one clic.
In my case everything worked fine. When I reboot I have to re-mount folder, but it takes one second (just open Apps2SD, tap Folder Mount, slide "whatsapp other").

An Easy Alternative for external SD card writes for all phones

I recently got a Xiaomi phone on Android 7.0 (Nougat) which while rooted could not write to the external SD memory card as Google has blocked writes to that card in the last several OS versions. Some of the fixes for that issue on XDA involve using Xposed Framework (which has been a problem on some of my phones) and others involved modifying some system files which I tried but I believe that is what caused numerous apps to force close and ultimately I think it was what caused Google services to stop working and to declare my phone was not supported (but it is on their list of supported devices and was working fine until I implemented one of those patches).
So what is my Alternative fix? I have noticed for a long time that when I use Total Commander (for Android) - great program - that if I try to copy a file to the external SD card it shows a popup that says the external SD card is write protected - BUT - if I hit cancel on that dialogue it copies the file anyway! Or you can follow the directions on the dialogue which just involves a couple more touches to complete the file copy. That works either way.
But what if you could avoid that popup alltogether? The easy solution: If you want to copy files to the external SD card as if there was no write protection this is what you do. Get an App like JR Rummy's ROM Toolbox (I think there are others which can also easily perform this operation but his is one of the nicest) and go into the App Manager in ROM Toolbox and search for Total Commander. Then once it is opened choose the 'Advanced' menu (scroll right). Then choose "Convert to System App". When that is done exit ROM Toolbox and try copying a file to the external SD card. It should copy without any popups or problems. You will of course need a rooted phone for this to work but for the purpose of copying files where YOU want them this works great. I imagine this could work for other file managers also but if you have never used Total Commander from Ghisler I highly recommend it for both Android and Windows.

I don't see any reason this wouldn't work for any Android phone but if anyone finds a problem with implementing it please post here. Christian Ghisler has been developing Total Commander for Windows since 1995 and I think he is a coding genius and while the Android version is newer I totally trust the App to be converted to a system App. If there are concerns about that please post here.
Total Commander:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghisler.android.TotalCommander
ROM Toolbox Lite:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolbox
ROM Toolbox Pro:
Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro

Additional info: On Lollipop most of the apps which patch the external SD card writes work well. On Marshmallow some still work okay but not always the best. On Nougat it seems some patches work on some phones but many people have problems with them on this OS version so my suggestions above will hopefully help those stuck with issues using those other methods.
I have Xposed framework on some phones and it works great but on other phones it has caused noticeable slowness and app crashes so I removed it and all was well again. Xposed framework is needed for one of the external SD card fixes as seen here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-marshmallow-sd-fix-write-t3403263 . But if you have a phone which doesn't like Xposed or the other patches have not worked give the above a try. It's an easy fix for copying / moving your own files to the external SD card.

On phones that are using a 'systemless root' this probably will not work.