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Just want to let you know guys that another good RPG is out and it's free on the market!
https://market.android.com/details?....normal.freefull.google.global.android.common
Enjoy
Thanks for the heads up! I'm amazed this game is free!
Does somebody know why it is free? I don't see any in game purchases yet...
I want developers to make some money so they will make another game later
Thnx for the headsup! Gonna chck it out!
Revin said:
Does somebody know why it is free? I don't see any in game purchases yet...
I want developers to make some money so they will make another game later
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its admob supported as of the moment
and yes the ad placements is sometimes distractive on gameplay as it blocks the whole screen
but i agree with you
they should make a paid version soon or else these devs'd go bankrupt
Is there an Inotia 1 or an Inotia 2 for our devices? Or was it only for iPhone/iPod/iPad?
Seems so many RPGs these days are really into these anime-style characters. It works for some games, but it's getting old.
I applaud the developers, though on their technical merits -- I'd just like to see some variety.
Does anyone know why the game needs so many permissions?
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Does anyone know why the game needs so many permissions?
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This is a amazing RPG , Hooked on it now .
psouza4 said:
Seems so many RPGs these days are really into these anime-style characters. It works for some games, but it's getting old.
I applaud the developers, though on their technical merits -- I'd just like to see some variety.
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I don't think the quality of many of these games is very high though. They're all missing the mark. This looks good though and I hope we see more quality JRPGs. All we get are lousy, cliche knock offs with crappy graphics.
Thanks for sharing!
many permissions:
why?
PHONE CALLS
READ THE IDENTITY AND THE STATE PHONE
Allows the application to access the telephone functions of the device. An application with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, if a call is active, the number that is linked to that call, and so on.
STORAGE
MODIFY OR DELETE CONTENT OR USB STORAGE ALTER OR REMOVE THE CONTENT OF THE SD CARD
Allows an application to write the USB storage and SD card.
SYSTEM TOOLS
RECOVER APPLICATIONS IN PROGRESS
Allows the application to retrieve information about tasks that are currently running or have run recently. Can allow malicious applications to access private information about other applications.
CHANGE STATE OF WIFI
Allows an application to connect to WiFi hotspots and log them, and make changes to the WiFi network configured.
CHANGE THE NETWORK CONNECTIVITY
Allows an application to change the status of network connectivity.
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many permissions:
why?
PHONE CALLS
READ THE IDENTITY AND THE STATE PHONE
Allows the application to access the telephone functions of the device. An application with this permission can determine the phone number and serial number of this phone, if a call is active, the number that is linked to that call, and so on.
STORAGE
MODIFY OR DELETE CONTENT OR USB STORAGE ALTER OR REMOVE THE CONTENT OF THE SD CARD
Allows an application to write the USB storage and SD card.
SYSTEM TOOLS
RECOVER APPLICATIONS IN PROGRESS
Allows the application to retrieve information about tasks that are currently running or have run recently. Can allow malicious applications to access private information about other applications.
CHANGE STATE OF WIFI
Allows an application to connect to WiFi hotspots and log them, and make changes to the WiFi network configured.
CHANGE THE NETWORK CONNECTIVITY
Allows an application to change the status of network connectivity.
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Why does a game need my phone number and serial number?
Why does it need to know what apps are running on my phone?
Why does it need Market Billing Service permission? Isn't it free?
Why does it need to mess around with my network settings?
Of course, full internet access is required to transmit this info out into the ether.
I'm not going to try it until these questions are answered. Call me paranoid, but I think this game requires too much.
Thoughts when compared to zenonia? I was a huge zenonia fan and that game set the bar pretty high for other anime styled rpgs
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ccossin said:
Why does a game need my phone number and serial number?
Why does it need to know what apps are running on my phone?
Why does it need Market Billing Service permission? Isn't it free?
Why does it need to mess around with my network settings?
Of course, full internet access is required to transmit this info out into the ether.
I'm not going to try it until these questions are answered. Call me paranoid, but I think this game requires too much.
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1. This is required for almost all games especially when they are resource extensive. Because it seeks permission of the android OS to kill cached running apps to make room for itself.
2. IDK
3. It needs this one because this app is ad supported. How can it get ads if its not connected to the internet?
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Thoughts when compared to zenonia? I was a huge zenonia fan and that game set the bar pretty high for other anime styled rpgs
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Yeah, I think so too. Zenonia series was great, along with Illusia, another good game from Gamevil. For me, the best goes to Spectral Souls. It is beautiful 2.5D, good (super long) story, many characters (85!), for a tactical turn based rpg. Purely revamped classic.
But pretty costly though.
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I saw some codes/hacks for the iphone version of this game, is there any for us that you guys know about?
ccossin said:
Why does a game need my phone number and serial number?
Why does it need to know what apps are running on my phone?
Why does it need Market Billing Service permission? Isn't it free?
Why does it need to mess around with my network settings?
Of course, full internet access is required to transmit this info out into the ether.
I'm not going to try it until these questions are answered. Call me paranoid, but I think this game requires too much.
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I'm on it.
chukis13 said:
I saw some codes/hacks for the iphone version of this game, is there any for us that you guys know about?
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I agree I would love to know if there are any hacks for this.
/nod to the potential hacks as well. Zenonia 3 was too easy. 45 million zen anyone?
Squishie said:
/nod to the potential hacks as well. Zenonia 3 was too easy. 45 million zen anyone?
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Nah, Don't want anything like that. Just really want to reset my stats.
Hi everyone. Im one of the developers of SwitchMe, and app that allows multiple secure logins into separate installations of android on a single device. The pr is after the break.
I really need a few people to check into some issues people on some roms have been experiencing. There are some warnings involved:
- testers must perform a full nandroid backup before using the app, it is not our responsibility if you start getting boot loops or whatnot
- if you report results or bugs, please use the "Write to us" function in the app whenever possible, and always describe the issue in the header of the logs you send
- if you post here, bes sure to include your device type and rom
- if you have apps installed on sd, be sure to mention that as well
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SwitchMe is a unique application for root users that allows you to log in and out of multiple installations of Android just as you would on a desktop computer.
The technology behind SwitchMe saves all of your applications and data, protects it and stores it as a file in memory. You can then log out of an
account and log into a fresh installation of Android or another account with its own unique content.
You may create as many profiles as the memory is capable of holding. Some of these may require very little free memory because they contain few apps,
others will be larger as they contain many applications and lots of cache and data.
Why is this functionality useful?
Privacy - the most obvious benefit is that you can securely share one device among multiple users, which gives you privacy and peace of mind.
Testing - if you are a developer, you can use profiles as clean sandboxes to test your applications and their interaction with the system.
Gaming – with multiple installations of Android on a single device, you can now play online MMOs as different characters.
Speed - the games your kids play slow down your tablet, but with SwitchMe you can easily create profiles without games or instant messengers.
Battery life - when the battery is low but there are important emails or documents to edit later, switch to a profile which only contains these essentials.
These of course are only suggestions - there are plenty of other uses for the functionality SwitchMe offers.
Market link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.switchme
The Lite version allows the creation of two profiles, enough to test on.
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will this allow me to switch between ROMs, like a ROM manager?
No. It creates multiple installs of your base rom. There is an app called boot manager, but it will never support the fire...
ftgg99 said:
No. It creates multiple installs of your base rom. There is an app called boot manager, but it will never support the fire...
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Ah. Was hoping it was like Boot Manager. Damn.
Switchme seems to work as desired. I'm the only one using my fire tho so there isn't much need for it. Come to to think of it, it would keep people out of my account when its being passed around at my buddies house lol.
Why do you say boot manager will never have support on the kindle fire?
Considering their progress over the last year and a half - 6! new devices - it will take forever.
SwitchMe 1.2 has been rolled out and now includes a lockscreen replacement:
1.2
Added lock screen for logging in and out
More stable Fast switch implementation
Reworked UI colors
Now, its very important that we get some feedback on how this big new feature works, so please read up on it in the help and post your thoughts!
1.2.2 - HOTFIX 2
Reworked widget on qHD+ displays
Fixed widget text on HC and ICS
Fast switch improved on older devices
Dont forget to send LOGS WITH DESCRIPTIONS when you have issues!
RECREATE your problem, then send the logs via WRITE TO US!
Anything to report?
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Anything to report?
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I have a few ideas that should put this app to good use I've been meaning play with it for a while now. Going to be kinda busy during the week but I'll try to post any questions/issues if I come across any. If I don't get to it during the week, I will defiantly spend some time using it on the weekend
Thanks, i look forward to some feedback - for a developer good feedback in forums is much better than "doesnt work - 1 star" type reviews on the market.
1.4.3.7
Fixed device specific switch screen crashes and issues
Fixed UI bug in switch screen preferences
If anyohe had problems with superuser before, this should fix them. Please let me know if that is the case, its important we get some feedback here!
Anything to report regarding yesterday's release?
I couldn't get wifi to connect last week (only time i had to try it) I'll give it another go tonight. I did have a question about storage, if i have a game installed on my main profile and install it on a second profile, is the apk then located in 2 locations? The kindle fire is very limited on storage with no option of expandable storage
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I couldn't get wifi to connect last week (only time i had to try it) I'll give it another go tonight. I did have a question about storage, if i have a game installed on my main profile and install it on a second profile, is the apk then located in 2 locations? The kindle fire is very limited on storage with no option of expandable storage
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Yes, the apk will be used twice.
By the way we released a new app today some of you might also find useful, you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538222
PLEASE CHECK IT OUT AND BE KIND
Touch Blocker Beta - a simple but useful app that makes holding and using your device easier
There are two basic functions:
- create dead zones where touches do not register
- filter the screen when reading in low light
We are already in a relatively stable Beta release - whats left now is adding new features and making it all look pretty. You can follow this process at the thread here.
Please be sure to write suggestions - we are looking forward to engaging the community and building a useful and nifty application that many will enjoy!
Market link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fahrbot.apps.touchblocker
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Debugging
If you experience issues, the best way to help is by reproducing them and then clicking "write to us" - be sure to include a description of your error or we may not read the logs.
Hello, I just came across this thread and had to say something, I love your Switchme app. Me and my wife both use my fire and it was driving me crazy not being able to customize it how I wanted. Then I found your app in the market and was ecstatic to try it. It worked like a dream! Your latest update just added that little touch that made it sol worth it. Thank you so much for this function and smooth integration.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using CM9
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Hello, I just came across this thread and had to say something, I love your Switchme app. Me and my wife both use my fire and it was driving me crazy not being able to customize it how I wanted. Then I found your app in the market and was ecstatic to try it. It worked like a dream! Your latest update just added that little touch that made it sol worth it. Thank you so much for this function and smooth integration.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using CM9
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Why thank you! The best way to show your appreciation is to leave a review on the market - good reviews help us add improvements faster!
1.5.3.1
Fixed issue with lock on boot
Fixed some rare crashes on lock screen
Fixed MIPS and X86 Key compatibility
Hi XDA. I have found Lot of APPS to share Acelerometer from my Android Device as Racing Wheel to my PC.
I like it, but, do yu know Oculus Rift? It´s cool.
Idea: APP, that shares Acelerometer from my Android Device, as Mouse to FPS Games.
How? Simply Attach Phone to forehead with headband, and share Accelerometer to PC, face to Screen middle, and hit "CALIBRATE" on PC.
Then start any FPS Game like Minecraft, Counter Strike, Battlefield... and Play.
I know, Oculus have screen on Glasses, and PC monitor is Static, but it works on another principle.
How many do you move your head to any side, so fast will be cursor move to this side, until you dont move your head to center.
Is it possible? And can someone to Make APP for this?
Best will be this mouse function, with Racing Wheel function in one APP.
Or, It will be auto-changed on PC accordingly, what for game you will start.
@gouster3 can you post a link to some accelerometer app I tried few I dont remember which but they didn't worked with gta.
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me.kyberback.steeringwheel
thahim said:
@gouster3 can you post a link to some accelerometer app I tried few I dont remember which but they didn't worked with gta.
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005
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Hi, i was using this:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.kyberback.steeringwheel
i found Cracked version on google.
but, it is ilegal, so, you can download one of free versions:
- DEMO play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.kyberback.steeringwheeldemo
- .me1 play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.kyberback.steeringwheeldongle (i dont know what for verson is it. )
OR you can buy PRO version, when you like.
But, dont forget to install software on PC, and in GTA enable joyistick/gamewheel key configuration.
If it does not work, try this PATCH to directx, and set up controller.
code.google.com/p/x360ce/downloads/list
(both, Controller Emulator and Libraries too.)
i'm looking for a specific type of app that i cant find anywhere in the playstore and i did my fair share of testing. This app would enable the lock screen to recognize two pins. One would be the normal pin you enter when you want to unlock the phone and the secondary pin when entered would trigger a series of security protocols like wipe all data on the phone ,erase all contacts and sms apps etc. Is there such an app? If not,then this would make a great idea for an app. I know i'd pay for it. Thanks in advance.
There are no such apps right now .
But you may try something like android device manager or mcAffee which provides online accessibility to your device for wiping data,fact. reset etcetera .
Or , instead of writing/requesting here , you may contact your favorite lock screen app developer and simply request to then to implement your idea on it . They will add it without any doubt
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i'm looking for a specific type of app that i cant find anywhere in the playstore and i did my fair share of testing. This app would enable the lock screen to recognize two pins. One would be the normal pin you enter when you want to unlock the phone and the secondary pin when entered would trigger a series of security protocols like wipe all data on the phone ,erase all contacts and sms apps etc. Is there such an app? If not,then this would make a great idea for an app. I know i'd pay for it. Thanks in advance.
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There's not an exact match to your requirements always but still on the half way down there are some apps which you may try & deal accordingly.
I would recommend you to use
1. Smart Applock
2. Theftie
3. Cm Applock.
Out of these you may select the one you feel comfortable with.
Hope you find this useful...
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ayushbpl10 said:
There's not an exact match to your requirements always but still on the half way down there are some apps which you may try & deal accordingly.
I would recommend you to use
1. Smart Applock
2. Theftie
3. Cm Applock.
Out of these you may select the one you feel comfortable with.
Hope you find this useful...
ayushbpl10
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OP posted a SINGLE requirement, and none of the apps you listed can fulfil that requirement.
snapper.fishes said:
OP posted a SINGLE requirement, and none of the apps you listed can fulfil that requirement.
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Have you tried Smart Applock...
Then look for a feature of lock screen setting which allow you to have 2 passwords for the lockscreen & also has the feature of siren when password feeded wrong & mailing an image as well as video of the person trying to gain unauthorized access to your device. Also it provide wipe & lock feature.
Talking about other apps they also function the same but don't have a feature of multiple password.
I hope next time you try the apps first & then post such a reply....
Moreover I strictly mentioned that the exact requirements are not be found with these apps & user must look accordingly as per the available features.
ayushbpl10
ayushbpl10 said:
Have you tried Smart Applock...
Then look for a feature of lock screen setting which allow you to have 2 passwords for the lockscreen & also has the feature of siren when password feeded wrong & mailing an image as well as video of the person trying to gain unauthorized access to your device. Also it provide wipe & lock feature.
Talking about other apps they also function the same but don't have a feature of multiple password.
I hope next time you try the apps first & then post such a reply....
Moreover I strictly mentioned that the exact requirements are not be found with these apps & user must look accordingly as per the available features.
ayushbpl10
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Ok. By now i understand there is no such app so let me tell you why all of the above do not work for me.
We all store more and more sensitive info on our phones,we make payments with the phone we have banking apps installed ,private emails and so on.All the above apps are great apps if your phone is stolen,but full of flaws.you can take out the sim card and that's it.What do you do if someone forces you to enter the pin and then disappear with the phone wallet etc?in the time it takes you to go home and remote wipe the phone they already have everything that was on the phone. All those apps are useless and full of flaws in cases like this.
First of - I'm just an everyday user of Android device, never interested in hacking or any other "advanced" use of computers and likes. My greatest achievements so far are jailbreaking Iphone, rooting an Android phone and installing stock ROM on it. You can call me a noob. However - I like to improve things I use and I also value my privacy. That's why I installed a software that locks access to certain apps on my phone. I recently found this app actually made an opposite - it made my device vulnerable to identity theft and potential financial loss. I wouldn't really bother telling my story if developers didn't delete my one-star-rating with a brief description of the problem right after I posted it in Play store.
So, to the point. I installed CM Security and app lock app (nearly 14 millions of users and 4,7 rating) and locked some of the "sensitive" apps with it. One evening I was bored enough to try and play "a hacker" who "found my phone" and see what such person could do. Considering "a hacker" somehow managed to unlock the device he'd now encounter my second line of the defense - the mighty app locker. And now, in a few short steps I'll show you how much damage you can do with it:
1. First it obviously asks you for an unlocking password/pattern, but -as you don't know it - you hit in-app menu button and choose "forgot password?" option.
2. It asks you to log in to your Google account in order to reset the password (YES, you can access Google password recovery from inside the app, so even if you lock your device's Settings, your mail client and so on, you can still access the most vulnerable option of your account from "security" app).
3. As you don't know a Google password you hit the "forgot password" link that starts Google password reset process.
4. It will ask you for the "last password you remember", but you can just say you don't know it and then it gives you an option to get a verification code by SMS - chances are it will be sent to the device you're just holding in your hands. And these chances are big.
5. After you get a verification code you're in. You can now set a new Google account password and reset app locker password/pattern.
It's that easy. You not only unlocked an app locker but also got access to Google account which gives you pretty much endless possibilities, including purchase of some apps in the Play Store as it stores your card details and you only need an account password to authenticate the purchase. You can also try to restore Ebay or Paypal passwords or even try to get directly into bank accounts via banking apps. Sky is the limit.
I already deleted CM "security" app and looked for some replacement. I wasn't really surprised it's kind of a standard that when you install them, security apps ask you to give your Google account details just in case you need to recover your password in a future. And they often make you think that giving these details is an integral part of installation process, a must-do that is necessary for an app to install and work. Some apps, like CM "security" don't even ask - they just use your Google account details and don't give you a chance to give up such option.
After all - here's some advice I can give:
1. Don't install any security software that connects to your Google account and gives "password reset" options;
2. Don't give Google your mobile number, even if it seems convinient;
3. Don't use your Google account address as your contact information in "owner info" option of your device.
If you have any other suggestions that may improve security, please share.
Cheers
Question is why you didn't lock your device in the first place.
I think you are misappling this feature 's benefit/use. It is not there, IMO, to secure your phone from an advesary that has even brief access to your phone.
That is what a combination of a lock screen pwd,short for convenience, and full encryption using a separate and longer pwd of high entropy/randomness is for. Even with that its important to understand how it works and its limitations. Such as it does not encrypt.the ext sd card data. So if you put apps or privledged data there you either should not or using other means to encrypt it. One such way would be to use truecrypt to encrypt it using a pc, being the easiest and then use one of the apks that gives suports accessing those types of partitions/files.
The function you are speaking of is ther to prevent people you have a large degree of trust in such as a family member or close.friend possibly that you may allow to use your phone but do not want them to be able to access private data. Think of a parent allowing their child to use the phone to play a game but does not want them scewing up email or going into their bank app and randoming clicking around etc...
I hope you get the idea. Its not there to prevent someone that means to do you direct intentional harm.
I also want to point out my comments are only directed at the most basic level and only deal with physical secure of data on the phone and not the phone itself nor from remote access or privacy.
Also want to point out that a screen lock pwd is nothing but a inconvenience at best to someone wanting access to your data. A quick reboot into recovery and a bkup to a sd card will get them all your data and any weakly secured credentials there in. Its only one part of physical security, of which, is only itself one part in over all data security, which itself, is only a part of data privacy. Its a large house of cards and removing one or putting one little piece in just slightly the wrong place and collapse the whole house.
Its hard to do just the small piece of each of these parts correctly and exrremely hard to.combine all the small and large parts together for a total protection scheme. It takes considerable research and learning to do these things especially if your goals are for higher levles of security and privacy.
As an example someone that really wants their phone data ue on android to be private from commerical.data collection which via proxy means all gov access to said data would never install goggle play store or any google app on their device. That is just one glaring example of many.
http://ad.cmcm.com/en/?f=home-en-top
Cheetah Mobile is spyware. watch the video on their website
I would suggest using the built-in encryption on Android. I don't use it myself, but have the Avira app installed. I like their PC software, and gave it a try.
It can be used to track a lost phone or lock it remotely. Since I have rooted my Huawei G300 it complains a bit, but still scans all apps being installed.
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I think you are misappling this feature 's benefit/use. It is not there, IMO, to secure your phone from an advesary that has even brief access to your phone.
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Fact is still that this app claims it provides certain security, yet it doesn't. Not everyone will realize this. So it's always good that people keep pointing this out.
Nearly a year gone since I posted this and now I returned to "AppLockers" during my mobile security research. This is such a bad thing I can't believe apps of this kind are accepted by PlayStore and not banned eternally as the most fake security solution that ever existed. What surprised me even more, "serious" companies, eg. Norton are also in this business... anyway
I checked this one first - Best App Lock - it's "best", right? And it's got 4.5 stars rating with 1,000,000 - 5,000,000 downloads.
I set it up, set the PIN, locked test app - everything seems fine.. as long as you don't go to Settings > Apps and don't force stop Best App Lock, because then - your protection is gone. But OK, you can also lock Settings and prevent such tricks and it works... as long as you don't use Activity Launcher to call App Lock's pin reset activity... Yes, you can reset the PIN without even opening the app itself.
Now, Best App Lock was clearly made by some amateur, so let's see what pros got for us, the big ones. I checked mentioned Norton App Lock, with 4.6 rating and surprisingly not as popular, with "only" 500,000 - 1,000,000 downloads. It's a bit better, it only contains one activity, so you can't bypass it easily, because the app itself is protected with a pattern, but here's another trick - reboot device in Safe Mode and you can disable Norton's permission to draw over other apps to make it helpless as a baby. Or you can just uninstall it in SM. I didn't check anything else, because what more you can do to prevent such workaround, than Norton already did?
If someone is aware of a way to disable power menu, or at least the ability to disable Safe Mode on unrooted Android please share. Until then I call all the App Lock apps the biggest scam in mobile security.
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Nearly a year gone since I posted this and now I returned to "AppLockers" during my mobile security research. This is such a bad thing I can't believe apps of this kind are accepted by PlayStore and not banned eternally as the most fake security solution that ever existed. What surprised me even more, "serious" companies, eg. Norton are also in this business... anyway
I checked this one first - Best App Lock - it's "best", right? And it's got 4.5 stars rating with 1,000,000 - 5,000,000 downloads.
I set it up, set the PIN, locked test app - everything seems fine.. as long as you don't go to Settings > Apps and don't force stop Best App Lock, because then - your protection is gone. But OK, you can also lock Settings and prevent such tricks and it works... as long as you don't use Activity Launcher to call App Lock's pin reset activity... Yes, you can reset the PIN without even opening the app itself.
Now, Best App Lock was clearly made by some amateur, so let's see what pros got for us, the big ones. I checked mentioned Norton App Lock, with 4.6 rating and surprisingly not as popular, with "only" 500,000 - 1,000,000 downloads. It's a bit better, it only contains one activity, so you can't bypass it easily, because the app itself is protected with a pattern, but here's another trick - reboot device in Safe Mode and you can disable Norton's permission to draw over other apps to make it helpless as a baby. Or you can just uninstall it in SM. I didn't check anything else, because what more you can do to prevent such workaround, than Norton already did?
If someone is aware of a way to disable power menu, or at least the ability to disable Safe Mode on unrooted Android please share. Until then I call all the App Lock apps the biggest scam in mobile security.
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The first step to real security is removing all Googleapps and Google account. There is no other way around this. Next, don't install any app that is not open source. Also, don't use any recovery. And finally, either epoxy your entire usb port, if you have let's say a magnetic charging port or cut all usb port pins except for 2 for charging. In addition, you should open the phone and epoxy usb port and contacts from inside, so that it can't be replaced. Or even better: epoxy your entire motherboard. That would take care of UART socket or any other way of entering CPU/GPU/RAM from inside. Encrypt your phone. After that, your phone couldn't be penetrated (other than through the air/baseband, which is a whole different level of sophistication). If someone targets you over the baseband, throw your phone and run for your freedom...
Seriously, in the above scenario, no one can have access to your data: no fastboot, no adb, no recovery. They wouldn't be able to replace kernel, recovery, system or use any OEM official flashing method... . I welcome any suggestion to hack such a device...
minimale_ldz said:
Nearly a year gone since I posted this and now I returned to "AppLockers" during my mobile security research. This is such a bad thing I can't believe apps of this kind are accepted by PlayStore and not banned eternally as the most fake security solution that ever existed. What surprised me even more, "serious" companies, eg. Norton are also in this business... anyway
I checked this one first - Best App Lock - it's "best", right? And it's got 4.5 stars rating with 1,000,000 - 5,000,000 downloads.
I set it up, set the PIN, locked test app - everything seems fine.. as long as you don't go to Settings > Apps and don't force stop Best App Lock, because then - your protection is gone. But OK, you can also lock Settings and prevent such tricks and it works... as long as you don't use Activity Launcher to call App Lock's pin reset activity... Yes, you can reset the PIN without even opening the app itself.
Now, Best App Lock was clearly made by some amateur, so let's see what pros got for us, the big ones. I checked mentioned Norton App Lock, with 4.6 rating and surprisingly not as popular, with "only" 500,000 - 1,000,000 downloads. It's a bit better, it only contains one activity, so you can't bypass it easily, because the app itself is protected with a pattern, but here's another trick - reboot device in Safe Mode and you can disable Norton's permission to draw over other apps to make it helpless as a baby. Or you can just uninstall it in SM. I didn't check anything else, because what more you can do to prevent such workaround, than Norton already did?
If someone is aware of a way to disable power menu, or at least the ability to disable Safe Mode on unrooted Android please share. Until then I call all the App Lock apps the biggest scam in mobile security.
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Reviews or star ratings are not always very reliable, just use as a rough guide .... (In my opinion SOME of those Chinese apps seem to be amongst the worst offenders)
https://techcrunch.com/2014/05/27/f...unes-but-google-play-has-the-worst-offenders/
optimumpro said:
The first step to real security is removing all Googleapps and Google account. There is no other way around this. Next, don't install any app that is not open source. Also, don't use any recovery. And finally, either epoxy your entire usb port, if you have let's say a magnetic charging port or cut all usb port pins except for 2 for charging. In addition, you should open the phone and epoxy usb port and contacts from inside, so that it can't be replaced. Or even better: epoxy your entire motherboard. That would take care of UART socket or any other way of entering CPU/GPU/RAM from inside. Encrypt your phone. After that, your phone couldn't be penetrated (other than through the air/baseband, which is a whole different level of sophistication). If someone targets you over the baseband, throw your phone and run for your freedom...
Seriously, in the above scenario, no one can have access to your data: no fastboot, no adb, no recovery. They wouldn't be able to replace kernel, recovery, system or use any OEM official flashing method... . I welcome any suggestion to hack such a device...
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Well you forgot SD card, unless you encrypt that as well, which for a user who uses the card for transferring files across different devices is not such a bright idea.
using epoxy could slow down the hack, and seriously give more trouble to the user than the hacker.
that being said your idea of securing the data is somewhat clear but really a secured device? cause epoxy can be penetrated as well, lock screen can also be bypassed, even without Google and a recovery.
it might take more time than hacking an average device, but still it can be done and most probably the hacker would be the same owner. cause he forgot the damn password and is looking to get back the data.
the more we try to secure, the more we make our lives tough.
billysam said:
Well you forgot SD card, unless you encrypt that as well, which for a user who uses the card for transferring files across different devices is not such a bright idea.
using epoxy could slow down the hack, and seriously give more trouble to the user than the hacker.
that being said your idea of securing the data is somewhat clear but really a secured device? cause epoxy can be penetrated as well, lock screen can also be bypassed, even without Google and a recovery.
it might take more time than hacking an average device, but still it can be done and most probably the hacker would be the same owner. cause he forgot the d
amn password and is looking to get back the data.
the more we try to secure, the more we make our lives tough.
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Epoxy: Knowing how small and fragile phone motherboards are, I think you will most likely damage the board while trying to penetrate epoxy... Maybe you shouldn't epoxy the usb port on the ouside, but cut the data pins and epoxy on the inside to not give a hint to an attacker. Anyway, I wish an attacker fun time trying to remove epoxy...
The point of encryption is to protect data when the phone is off. So, it makes sense that for someone without a password, the phone turns into a brick. And if you tend to forget the password, then write it down somewhere other than the phone...
Mobile security is a myth. At best it is a door knit lock. Will keep honest People honest but won't stop someone from. Really trying and doing it.
I see lots of talk from people about security and yet these same people use Facebook which has enough holes in it that anyone could hack someone else pc. I use it all the time to mess with people. The looks on their faces are priceless.