A few questions about encryption on the S7:
Some threads, e.g., TWRP, refer to "Samsung encryption". Does the S7 use some sort of proprietary Samsung encryption, or does it use the standard Android encryption?
Since I have now disabled encryption after installing TWRP, can I re-enable it? If so, how?
Would FlashFire allow me to flash ROMs with encryption still enabled?
Thanks in advance.
dildano said:
A few questions about encryption on the S7:
Some threads, e.g., TWRP, refer to "Samsung encryption". Does the S7 use some sort of proprietary Samsung encryption, or does it use the standard Android encryption?
Since I have now disabled encryption after installing TWRP, can I re-enable it? If so, how?
Would FlashFire allow me to flash ROMs with encryption still enabled?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Simply put, the method in which Samsung decrypts encrypted data isn't known
2. You can enable encryption but you must start from scratch. (As far as I am aware anyways). Means you must flash stock ROM in ODIN.
3. Not sure. You can certainly flash zips that modify /system. You can also use TWRP as long as you don't need to mount data. Switching ROM normally means a standard factory reset but if you are encrypted you can't use TWRP to factory reset and I am not sure if FlashFire can do it either.
Galactus said:
1. Simply put, the method in which Samsung decrypts encrypted data isn't known
2. You can enable encryption but you must start from scratch. (As far as I am aware anyways). Means you must flash stock ROM in ODIN.
3. Not sure. You can certainly flash zips that modify /system. You can also use TWRP as long as you don't need to mount data. Switching ROM normally means a standard factory reset but if you are encrypted you can't use TWRP to factory reset and I am not sure if FlashFire can do it either.
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2. do you have to really start from the scratch?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/how-to-encrypt-device-custom-rom-knox-1-t3392301
3. is factory reset not just a kind of a wipe? why cant twrp just format the encrypted partitions?
I spent also several days to fully customize my S7 (cfw S7 debloated) and i am quite happy yet.
But if I lost once a phone long time ago.. So encryption is a must, root too.
I would accept definetely a non-working TWRP, if I could get an encryption?
any advices?
thx.
tefole said:
2. do you have to really start from the scratch?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/how-to-encrypt-device-custom-rom-knox-1-t3392301
3. is factory reset not just a kind of a wipe? why cant twrp just format the encrypted partitions?
I spent also several days to fully customize my S7 (cfw S7 debloated) and i am quite happy yet.
But if I lost once a phone long time ago.. So encryption is a must, root too.
I would accept definetely a non-working TWRP, if I could get an encryption?
any advices?
thx.
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Yep, once you disable encryption in TWRP and flash the dm-verity zip, the option to encrypt the phone won't even be available in settings. In the rare case that it is, it will always fail.
Since you want root and encryption, it is pretty simple.
Flash stock rom in ODIN (Backup, backup, backup anything valuable)
Obtain root using CF-Auto Root method
Install TWRP, allow modifications, don't wipe /data
You can only flash zips from external SD card. Internal storage will be unavailable in TWRP
I did a make backups with TWRP and TitaniumBackup.
May I ask some more questions, i do want to understand the procedure.
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Flash stock rom in ODIN (Backup, backup, backup anything valuable)
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I guess the stock ROM is already encrypted - is that the reason why TWRP doesnt have access to /data (as well to the internal /sdcard) till the encryption is disabled?
Obtain root using CF-Auto Root method
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After flashing stock the bootloader is locked again, so I do have to unlock the "OEM unlock" per developer settings again? The phone wont be wiped afterwards?
Install TWRP, allow modifications, don't wipe /data
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May i recover/restore here a formerly per TWRP backuped ROM? I guess, this want be possible, hence TWRP doesnt has access to /data, nor to /sdcard?!
Which partitions I am allowed to restore, respectively is there a chance to recovery somehow the TWRP backup (it was soo much work).
Or can i disable encryption and enable it again, after restore?
You can only flash zips from external SD card. Internal storage will be unavailable in TWRP
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After everything went well, I am going to encrypt the ext-sdcard too. I guess, TWRP will be useless then...
tefole said:
I did a make backups with TWRP and TitaniumBackup.
May I ask some more questions, i do want to understand the procedure.
I guess the stock ROM is already encrypted - is that the reason why TWRP doesnt have access to /data (as well to the internal /sdcard) till the encryption is disabled?
After flashing stock the bootloader is locked again, so I do have to unlock the "OEM unlock" per developer settings again? The phone wont be wiped afterwards?
May i recover/restore here a formerly per TWRP backuped ROM? I guess, this want be possible, hence TWRP doesnt has access to /data, nor to /sdcard?!
Which partitions I am allowed to restore, respectively is there a chance to recovery somehow the TWRP backup (it was soo much work).
Or can i disable encryption and enable it again, after restore?
After everything went well, I am going to encrypt the ext-sdcard too. I guess, TWRP will be useless then...
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Once you flash the stock ROM, the phone is encrypted before first boot
Once you OEM Unlock, it stays that way unless you attempt to re-lock it. Once you flash a stock ROM and go to developer settings, you'll see OEM Unlock is still on
Encrypted device = No restoring of any kind in TWRP, that is the trade off. Some people use FlashFire to back up and restore. I tried once a while back and it didn't work. Others seem to be ok
If external sd is encrypted also, then your only chance is to use FlashFire. TWRP is basically useless
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Once you flash the stock ROM, the phone is encrypted before first boot
Once you OEM Unlock, it stays that way unless you attempt to re-lock it. Once you flash a stock ROM and go to developer settings, you'll see OEM Unlock is still on
Encrypted device = No restoring of any kind in TWRP, that is the trade off. Some people use FlashFire to back up and restore. I tried once a while back and it didn't work. Others seem to be ok
If external sd is encrypted also, then your only chance is to use FlashFire. TWRP is basically useless
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Thx for your reply
After I flashed stock and finally customized my installation, would this be safety feature to relock the OEM? Is a relocking wiping also the whole phone or only the unlocking?
So that means, that if go through this instructeres, i cant flash any CFW, neither i cant restore my TWRP backup?
Thats a pitty.
tefole said:
Thx for your reply
After I flashed stock and finally customized my installation, would this be safety feature to relock the OEM? Is a relocking wiping also the whole phone or only the unlocking?
So that means, that if go through this instructeres, i cant flash any CFW, neither i cant restore my TWRP backup?
Thats a pitty.
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If you try to relock OEM, your device won't boot lol. I learned that the hard way months ago. Had to start from scratch.
What custom firmware are you trying to flash? If you mean custom ROMs then theoretically speaking you should be able to flash them using FlashFire.
Thank you for the hint - this will me spare the fate
I chose S7_extreme_debloated from @Battlehero.
I am quite happy with that CFW and i thought, i can install my apps and customize the system and start the encryption - didnt worked.
So, I will begin from the scratch too. It would be great, if I could start with this CFW after, flashing stock.
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I have been having a persistent issue trying to encrypt my phone's internal storage. (Samsung Galaxy S4 mini LTE (GT-I9195). I thought it might be related to me rooting the device, since I read that you can't encrypt a rooted phone.
So a few minutes ago I plucked up the courage to follow the tutorial to flash my original downloaded firmware to the phone, in an attempt to erase all trace of root. Well the phone came up and wanted my password, so I rebooted and installed TWRP via odin again, then did a factory reset and then used the wipe data option and proceeded to make a backup, assuming this would be as useful and as good as odin-flashing my original firmware back for future use and more convenient and less dangerous than using odin.
Well, after booting it up, going through the setup wizard and then adding a lockscreen password, I am still unable to encrypt the phone. It shows the green android robot, screen fades out, then very soon after that the phone reboots and it all comes back up as normal unencrypted. Bare in mind that this is still the stock firmware that was odin-flashed and then a factory reset.
After all this, what would I need to do to get the phone encryption working?
Also, is my assumption correct, that the new TWRP backup I made, after flashing the original firmware via odin, is that new fresh backup as good as flashing the original again via odin? At least in terms of the OS status? I know the recovery isn't changed by such a backup and odin wipes absolutely everything, but I think you know what I am asking.
Morthawt said:
I have been having a persistent issue trying to encrypt my phone's internal storage. (Samsung Galaxy S4 mini LTE (GT-I9195). I thought it might be related to me rooting the device, since I read that you can't encrypt a rooted phone.
So a few minutes ago I plucked up the courage to follow the tutorial to flash my original downloaded firmware to the phone, in an attempt to erase all trace of root. Well the phone came up and wanted my password, so I rebooted and installed TWRP via odin again, then did a factory reset and then used the wipe data option and proceeded to make a backup, assuming this would be as useful and as good as odin-flashing my original firmware back for future use and more convenient and less dangerous than using odin.
Well, after booting it up, going through the setup wizard and then adding a lockscreen password, I am still unable to encrypt the phone. It shows the green android robot, screen fades out, then very soon after that the phone reboots and it all comes back up as normal unencrypted. Bare in mind that this is still the stock firmware that was odin-flashed and then a factory reset.
After all this, what would I need to do to get the phone encryption working?
Also, is my assumption correct, that the new TWRP backup I made, after flashing the original firmware via odin, is that new fresh backup as good as flashing the original again via odin? At least in terms of the OS status? I know the recovery isn't changed by such a backup and odin wipes absolutely everything, but I think you know what I am asking.
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ODIN doesn't wipe everything. Perform a factory reset via stock recovery immediately after flashing the firmware via ODIN to set your phone back to stock. And who told you that enryption doesn't work with rooted phones?!
LS.xD said:
ODIN doesn't wipe everything. Perform a factory reset via stock recovery immediately after flashing the firmware via ODIN to set your phone back to stock. And who told you that enryption doesn't work with rooted phones?!
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I did a factory reset and deleted data and performed a new backup that I have saved to the computer.
But when I started to realise I could not encrypt I went googling and found a blog post by someone who claimed that he had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it to encrypt after he rooted his S4 mini. But my problem is even non-rooted on default firmware with TWRP recovery installed I cannot encrypt So I am hoping someone here will have the answer.
Morthawt said:
I did a factory reset and deleted data and performed a new backup that I have saved to the computer.
But when I started to realise I could not encrypt I went googling and found a blog post by someone who claimed that he had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it to encrypt after he rooted his S4 mini. But my problem is even non-rooted on default firmware with TWRP recovery installed I cannot encrypt So I am hoping someone here will have the answer.
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The point is that that KNOX detects the TWRP recovery. Enryption is possible with any rooted custom rom and probably with any roms but Samsung's S4 generation and newer due to the stupid KNOX security.
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The point is that that KNOX detects the TWRP recovery. Enryption is possible with any rooted custom rom and probably with any roms but Samsung's S4 generation and newer due to the stupid KNOX security.
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Well I did get encryption working one time on a custom rom but I have no idea how I did it. What should I do to improve my chances of getting encryption working? I thought when I rooted the original rom it removed knoxx?
My problem is very simple at its core and I find myself resorting to extreme solutions such as factory reset to solve it. However, I am okay with this. I would like to know the best way to unroot and factory reset my Note 4 SM-N910U.
What follows is the original story and my attempts to fix it. It's rather long, so if you would like to skip this section there is a tl;dr at the end.
Originally, I had found myself unable to login to the app Snapchat because they had gone to extreme lengths to lock out rooted users (an infamous fact on online discussions).
A popular solution for this would've been to install the Xposed Framework with RootCloak to hide Root from Snapchat - this is where my first problem came along.
My Android phone is encrypted.
This means that I could not use TWRP to flash the Xposed Framework zip (because TWRP for my device does not support encryption, thus could not read /data directory.)
I tried using FlashFire to skip recovery and got the same result - /data encrypted.
I tried to flash with CWM to see if it would support decryption of /data partition, but CWM isn't even compatible with my device.
At this point I was running out of things to try (I had been after this problem for about three days) and I decided to just kick the bucket, unroot and factory reset, because apparently the only way to undo data encryption on Android is to delete everything .
Apparently, even this would be a challenge. To factory reset a rooted device, you apparently need a stock ROM.
I tried looking for stock ROMs for SM-N910U online but the sites that came up (there were about 9 hits on Google for my baseband) all seemed fake and potentially harmful.
Even then, I don't know how I would flash the ROM since my TWRP doesn't work but that's the least of my worries at the moment .
I'd be extremely grateful if anyone could offer any potential pointers on where to download a safe stock ROM for my device and how to flash this ROM when I have no working TWRP (since my /data partition is, again, encrypted).
It seems a bit like a paradox - to remove data encryption you need a TWRP stock flash, but for a TWRP stock flash you need to remove data encryption.
Please do help... thank you in advance.
TL;DR
- tried to install xposed to hide root.
- found out that i can't flash any roms from recovery, because my recovery (twrp) doesn't support android disk encryption.
- found out that to remove encryption, i need to factory reset.
- i can't factory reset, because I need a stock ROM and I don't know where to find said stock ROM.
- also, how would i even flash this rom without a working recovery (again, the recovery doesn't work because full disk encryption).
Device Details:
Phone: Samsung Galaxy Note 4Model: SM-N910UAndroid version: 6.0.1 MarshmallowBaseband version: N910UXXU1DPL1
qnxo said:
My problem is very simple at its core and I find myself resorting to extreme solutions such as factory reset to solve it. However, I am okay with this. I would like to know the best way to unroot and factory reset my Note 4 SM-N910U.
What follows is the original story and my attempts to fix it. It's rather long, so if you would like to skip this section there is a tl;dr at the end.
Originally, I had found myself unable to login to the app Snapchat because they had gone to extreme lengths to lock out rooted users (an infamous fact on online discussions).
A popular solution for this would've been to install the Xposed Framework with RootCloak to hide Root from Snapchat - this is where my first problem came along.
My Android phone is encrypted.
This means that I could not use TWRP to flash the Xposed Framework zip (because TWRP for my device does not support encryption, thus could not read /data directory.)
I tried using FlashFire to skip recovery and got the same result - /data encrypted.
I tried to flash with CWM to see if it would support decryption of /data partition, but CWM isn't even compatible with my device.
At this point I was running out of things to try (I had been after this problem for about three days) and I decided to just kick the bucket, unroot and factory reset, because apparently the only way to undo data encryption on Android is to delete everything .
Apparently, even this would be a challenge. To factory reset a rooted device, you apparently need a stock ROM.
I tried looking for stock ROMs for SM-N910U online but the sites that came up (there were about 9 hits on Google for my baseband) all seemed fake and potentially harmful.
Even then, I don't know how I would flash the ROM since my TWRP doesn't work but that's the least of my worries at the moment .
I'd be extremely grateful if anyone could offer any potential pointers on where to download a safe stock ROM for my device and how to flash this ROM when I have no working TWRP (since my /data partition is, again, encrypted).
It seems a bit like a paradox - to remove data encryption you need a TWRP stock flash, but for a TWRP stock flash you need to remove data encryption.
Please do help... thank you in advance.
TL;DR
- tried to install xposed to hide root.
- found out that i can't flash any roms from recovery, because my recovery (twrp) doesn't support android disk encryption.
- found out that to remove encryption, i need to factory reset.
- i can't factory reset, because I need a stock ROM and I don't know where to find said stock ROM.
- also, how would i even flash this rom without a working recovery (again, the recovery doesn't work because full disk encryption).
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Phone: Samsung Galaxy Note 4Model: SM-N910UAndroid version: 6.0.1 MarshmallowBaseband version: N910UXXU1DPL1
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Go to Sammobile .com or samsung-updates .com this use your model number to search for your stock firmware, find the firmware for your region then flash that via Odin.
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Would I first need to "wipe" anything in TWRP?
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Would I first need to "wipe" anything in TWRP?
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It wouldn't hurt
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My XT1540/rooted/stock 6.0 ROM/ stock recovery now has an update available. I assume I can not accept this system update, even if I un-root my device. I do have a pre-rooted TWRP back up. I can reload that image, but my concern is the best way to get all my apps and data reloaded. I do have TB backups, but I thought that may not be a good option after system update. I am looking for advise how to proceed getting the latest system update and preserving all my current apps and data.
No offense, but did you Google it or search here? There are several tutorials in this device section and other similar Moto devices of the same generation that tell you different ways to do it...
Easy way... boot (not flash) TWPR, backup in TWRP, restore pre-root backup, accept OTA and allow it flash and fully boot, boot TWRP, flash your root of choice that you were using prior (Magisk or SuperSU), reboot and verify operation, then restore data partition backup you did prior to OTA, clear caches, and reboot.
This works 80% of the time... if your data partition is important then make an alternative backup.
acejavelin said:
No offense, but did you Google it or search here? There are several tutorials in this device section and other similar Moto devices of the same generation that tell you different ways to do it...
Easy way... boot (not flash) TWPR, backup in TWRP, restore pre-root backup, accept OTA and allow it flash and fully boot, boot TWRP, flash your root of choice that you were using prior (Magisk or SuperSU), reboot and verify operation, then restore data partition backup you did prior to OTA, clear caches, and reboot.
This works 80% of the time... if your data partition is important then make an alternative backup.
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Thanks. I have read conflicting information on the use of Titanium Backup, and that was my main reason for my post. My understanding of your reply is that TB would not be a recommended choice to restore apps&data (using either update.zip or batch mode) and that I have an 80% chance of restoring user apps and data by flashing the /data partition from my pre-OTA TWRP backup. And yes, I will make a pre-rooted backup prior to rooting or restoring apps.
I never heard of Magisk and will read more. In the mean time I will stick with SuperSU unless there is strong advise to go with Magisk.
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Thanks. I have read conflicting information on the use of Titanium Backup, and that was my main reason for my post. My understanding of your reply is that TB would not be a recommended choice to restore apps&data (using either update.zip or batch mode) and that I have an 80% chance of restoring user apps and data by flashing the /data partition from my pre-OTA TWRP backup. And yes, I will make a pre-rooted backup prior to rooting or restoring apps.
I never heard of Magisk and will read more. In the mean time I will stick with SuperSU unless there is strong advise to go with Magisk.
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I dislike TiBU... It is best to reinstall from scratch each time if possible, if not, this is a simple security update to TWRP should suffice.
Magisk is good, and it appears to be the root method most ROMs are going to because with Magisk Hide and a few tweaks that are built in, the device can still pass SafetyNet API checks, and there is no special process for systemless installing (it is the only way it can be done with Magisk). But if you are on SuperSU now and want to restore the data partition, do NOT switch that way... Get clean ROM and flash Magisk then install Magisk Manager. It has it's own community here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk
I am not saying Magisk is superior, but it is quite versatile and most ROMs seem to be switching to it so devices can pass SafetyNet checks.
I was also thinking this would be simple. Pleasant surprise after almost a year and a half to get a security update. So I uninstalled SuperSU (Tried Full Unroot option & it failed, so then just uninstalled the app.....Looks like I may still be rooted), re-installed the stock recovery, and with absolutely no other modifications to this phone, performed the update. So it failed. I thought I was able to do this on my Nexus 4, but that was a while back, and I always did it with a file, not OTA; maybe that was just OS update, who knows. I was just looking for some security peace of mind while waiting for Nougat to become a bit more stable. If I am going to have to go through hoops to do this, then I guess I will just wait; not going to go through this twice. Besides, will it be another year for the next security update; heck, they are already 1 or 2 months behind already.
The answer is what others said, plus you can try flashing OTA updates with flashfire, and don't choose to wipe data.
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The answer is what others said, plus you can try flashing OTA updates with flashfire, and don't choose to wipe data.
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Oh well. On a side note, always grateful for making Nandroid backups before I start playing around with anything though. Things were acting up after haphazardly trying various SuperSU options, so I had to do a restore.
These constant OTA update messages every few minutes that I have to keep canceling are brutal! I might have to install an app to kill them.
Rohi09 said:
The answer is what others said, plus you can try flashing OTA updates with flashfire, and don't choose to wipe data.
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Are you saying OTA updates can be flashed successfully without unrooting.
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Are you saying OTA updates can be flashed successfully without unrooting.
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that's the idea, I have never tried it on moto g 2015 though. As far as I know every root solution had its own Uninstaller. which root interface do you use? magisk or supersu?
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that's the idea, I have never tried it on moto g 2015 though. As far as I know every root solution had its own Uninstaller. which root interface do you use? magisk or supersu?
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I have SuperSU. It would be great to flash an OTA over my current system, but I have heard many reports including @pjc123 above where it did not work.
All my searches resulted in suggestions in going back to stock, accept OTA, then use TB or some other similar program to restore saved apps & data. Tomorrow I will try @acejavelin 's above suggested method of flashing the /data partition. If that does not work, I will try TB. I will report my progress.
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I have SuperSU. It would be great to flash an OTA over my current system, but I have heard many reports including @pjc123 above where it did not work.
All my searches resulted in suggestions in going back to stock, accept OTA, then use TB or some other similar program to restore saved apps & data. Tomorrow I will try @acejavelin 's above suggested method of flashing the /data partition. If that does not work, I will try TB. I will report my progress.
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you can flash unsu zip or magisk Uninstaller and try to install ota via flashfire, won't hurt trying, might save you some time.
acejavelin said:
No offense, but did you Google it or search here? There are several tutorials in this device section and other similar Moto devices of the same generation that tell you different ways to do it...
Easy way... boot (not flash) TWPR, backup in TWRP, restore pre-root backup, accept OTA and allow it flash and fully boot, boot TWRP, flash your root of choice that you were using prior (Magisk or SuperSU), reboot and verify operation, then restore data partition backup you did prior to OTA, clear caches, and reboot.
This works 80% of the time... if your data partition is important then make an alternative backup.
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Another dumb question, I am in the process of installing OTA. When I loaded the pre-root rom, I did not see any option to clear clear caches. I did see a wipe data and cache option which I understand to be a factory reset. I know I have seen it before but can't find it, so where do I clear cache after restoring data partition?
MrTooPhone said:
Another dumb question, I am in the process of installing OTA. When I loaded the pre-root rom, I did not see any option to clear clear caches. I did see a wipe data and cache option which I understand to be a factory reset. I know I have seen it before but can't find it, so where do I clear cache after restoring data partition?
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Another simple Google question...
Open TWRP, go to Wipes - Advanced, and select Cache and Dalvik cache (a misnomer today, it should be called ART cache) and swipe to wipe, then reboot.
Thanks to @acejavelin recommendations, I have successfully applied the latest system update to my XT1540. My steps were as follows:
Booted to TWRP (3.0.2-r5.img)
restored original pre-rooted ROM
rebooted, accepted system updates
backed up new pre-rooted ROM
installed SuperSU 2.62-3, rebooted
updated SuperSU to 2.79 via Playstore
restored /data partition from last saved rooted ROM
wiped Dalvik/ART Cache
Reboot system
took a while, a couple of minutes on “Hand stitched by Peter Crawly”, several minutes optimizing apps. The phone booted succesfully then I got an error message the update failed (which I hit OK) But looking at about phone, latest security patch is listed. Phone looks configured (apps, data, configuration) exactly as it was prior to the update.
Rebooted phone, all still seems fine.
Hello, how do I restore original pre-rooted ROM? When I made the backup I got a folder with 6 files:
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
system.info
None of them seems to be the .img file
bradmoss said:
Hello, how do I restore original pre-rooted ROM? When I made the backup I got a folder with 6 files:
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
system.info
None of them seems to be the .img file
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Your are not going to see an img file. Once booted into TWRP, select Restore, navigate and select your original ROM. Those files you have listed are within the restoration directory that you select with TWRP. Just select the directory with TWRP.
Bad news, I could restore pre-TRWP image using that folder and aplied the update.
But now I am in a loop, it tries to install (again) the update and then boots to TWRP
Is there any way out of this loop?
Thanks!
no idea? Am I the sad owner of a bricked phone?
bradmoss said:
no idea? Am I the sad owner of a bricked phone?
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You could try a factory reset if you're not worried about losing your data. A factory reset solves most of the problems, though I'm a little doubtful because a factory reset won't uninstall the new update (given that it installed in the first place).
bradmoss said:
Bad news, I could restore pre-TRWP image using that folder and aplied the update.
But now I am in a loop, it tries to install (again) the update and then boots to TWRP
Is there any way out of this loop?
Thanks!
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If it boots to TWRP, sounds like you didn't have a clean pre-root ROM as you did not have stock recovery. Did you try deleting Dalvik and ART cache?
I'd like too temporarily root my Pixel,, just to use a data recovery tool, via USB.
Is that possible without erasing my data partition or losing any data at all?
gmsalomao2 said:
I'd like too temporarily root my Pixel,, just to use a data recovery tool, via USB.
Is that possible without erasing my data partition or losing any data at all?
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You need to unlock your bootloader to get twrp on there in order to flash magisk and root. It's fairly straightforward to do but unlocking your bootloader will erase your data. There is no way round that.
Horgar said:
You need to unlock your bootloader to get twrp on there in order to flash magisk and root. It's fairly straightforward to do but unlocking your bootloader will erase your data. There is no way round that.
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Thanks, man. Do you know any way of backup that restores everything seamlessly? Like app logins, cache, data, app settings... everything. Even the root and bootloader original state? So it doesn't even look like I erased anything?
gmsalomao2 said:
Thanks, man. Do you know any way of backup that restores everything seamlessly? Like app logins, cache, data, app settings... everything. Even the root and bootloader original state? So it doesn't even look like I erased anything?
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Yes. You do a nandroid backup using twrp. But obviously it's a chicken and egg thing. You can't make that backup untill you get twrp on your phone. Tbh I don't make nandroid backups anymore, Google does a good job of it now so I don't have the need any more.
But If you want to root, make back up, flash custom ROMs etc, you have to unlock your bootloader. And you cannot unlock your bootloader without wiping data
Why do you need root to run a data recovery tool? What data are you trying to recover? Is there a specific tool you are trying to use, or will you use any means necessary to get your data off the phone? Does the phone boot? If you turn on USB debugging in the settings, you should be able to use ADB to communicate with the phone. That may be all you need.
In the past I've always backed up my complete ROM incl. appdata with twrp. I didn't have to competely setup my device if flashing went wrong and reverted to stock. I had some bad luck flashing roms because the A/B slots are new to me. I now have my bootloader unlocked and everything setup on stock OOS, and made a twrp backup of super, recovery and data.
Before flashing another ROM I just want to make sure I can revert easily to the previous OS without doing a complete setup of app settings and stuff
My question is
Can I wipe/factory reset and then just restore with twrp?
Do I restore when in the active slot where current os is?
Are there any issues with password/encryption when restoring?
Expected scenario;
I'm on stock OOS, wiped and want to restore appdata, settings, homescreen, etc...
I failed to install custom ROM and want to revert to stock OOS without having to redo the entire setup
I did search google and this forum for an answer or guide but couldn't find one (please correct me if I missed a thread)
yusisushi said:
In the past I've always backed up my complete ROM incl. appdata with twrp. I didn't have to competely setup my device if flashing went wrong and reverted to stock. I had some bad luck flashing roms because the A/B slots are new to me. I now have my bootloader unlocked and everything setup on stock OOS, and made a twrp backup of super, recovery and data.
Before flashing another ROM I just want to make sure I can revert easily to the previous OS without doing a complete setup of app settings and stuff
My question is
Can I wipe/factory reset and then just restore with twrp?
Do I restore when in the active slot where current os is?
Are there any issues with password/encryption when restoring?
Expected scenario;
I'm on stock OOS, wiped and want to restore appdata, settings, homescreen, etc...
I failed to install custom ROM and want to revert to stock OOS without having to redo the entire setup
I did search google and this forum for an answer or guide but couldn't find one (please correct me if I missed a thread)
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Did you read the first 3 posts of https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...recovery-project-8t-kebab-2022-03-09.4302449/ ?
BillGoss said:
Did you read the first 3 posts of https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...recovery-project-8t-kebab-2022-03-09.4302449/ ?
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HI, yes I did
I am still confused because it says before a restore I have to disable screenlock, if my phone is softbricked or has no OS does that count as not having fingerprint/lockscreen enabled?
yusisushi said:
HI, yes I did
I am still confused because it says before a restore I have to disable screenlock, if my phone is softbricked or has no OS does that count as not having fingerprint/lockscreen enabled?
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When you start TWRP, does it prompt you for a password/pin/pattern?
If Yes, then you have a lock screen password set. And if you can't get into the system to disable it, you'll have to format data (completely wipes all data).
If No, then you're good to go.
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When you start TWRP, does it prompt you for a password/pin/pattern?
If Yes, then you have a lock screen password set. And if you can't get into the system to disable it, you'll have to format data (completely wipes all data).
If No, then you're good to go.
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Hi, first of all; thank you for taking time to help me!
I managed to completely wipe the phone including data, and afterwards I restored it by copying the backup (which was now on my computer) and restoring it. SUCCESS! All appdata seems to be there, homescreen, and after second reboot my fingerprint still worked as before.
I just have one more question if you don't mind;
Below partitions I backed up;
Data
Boot
DTBO
Super
However, I'm not able to copy over the "super" partition from my computer to my phone, is this normal? it's almost 8GB and I was convinced I wasn't going to get to the OS without restoring it but apparently I didn't need it (?)
I suppose with the Fastboot Enhance Tool I'll be able to also restore this?
You really only need to backup the "system" partitions (boot, dtbo, super) if you're changing to custom ROMs. If you're always on OOS then you can forget about backing them up.
You should be able to copy the full backup, including super files from your PC to your phone using ADB. I've done that lots of times.
I've never used the tool you referred to. But I do know that you can't use fastboot to flash the super partition - it's too big.
However, if you break it up into chunks (I did it in 512MB chunks) using SparseConverter (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tool-sparseconverter-v1-0-1.2749797/) then you can successfully flash it.
Just to confirm, if a ROM bootloops and I don't have access to a computer, there's no way to restore the TWRP backup? Seems like this defeats the point of even making on-device backups (AFAIK encryption can't be disabled for many roms)
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Just to confirm, if a ROM bootloops and I don't have access to a computer, there's no way to restore the TWRP backup? Seems like this defeats the point of even making on-device backups (AFAIK encryption can't be disabled for many roms)
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If you can enter TWRP (even if your rom bootloops) there is a great chance you can restore backup in TWRP.