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Review and opinion ICs 4.0.4 Official

Hello to everyone, i need some help with my O3D. I hace it with GB and I am not sure to update it to ICS. I have search into your great fórum and I have found people with some problems like HDMI output refer to sound output, also some bugs with the camera in 3d, also some bugs about brithgness.
I will like to put only Officla ICs on my O3d, but I like people to tell me how phone goes, I mean if it has a lot of lags or goes slow, about gamming, about memory ram usage, also about if pictures are saved to external Sd o internal Sd, and many other stuff about it.
I jave search for a review but I did not have found any complete review about phone with official ICS.
Also I will like to now how much memory is left after the update, phone memory.
I have seen there are many roms for this mobile but I only want to put the oficial one.
Thanks very much

No one has stock ics installed in their p920?

I've tried many roms and kernels (around 30, maybe more) but now I have stock ICS I can say its the most stable and best daily driver you could ever get.
With all roms and kernels I've experienced lag after some use, but not with the original ICS.
Batterylife isn't great, but if you want a phone who is able to do anything it should do, whenever you want it to do its the best rom you could get.

Thanks for reply. And what about internal storage? How much is left?
And also I will like to now about ram since now in GB i always have 76 left in standby.
I have also read some issues about pictures in 3d something about the size and about the settins.
My other phone was an xperia neo v and I got this one because the other was always saying low internal memiry left.
thanks

take my advice if you are gonna flash ics to your phone then flash the STOCK version DON'T flash any custom roms even if it is based on stock one
about ram i think ram on official ics better than gb i have about 120-150 free ram in standby and you have the option to don't allow background processes to keep running (you can find it in the developer options inside system settings) that would save you more ram and more battery life
the phone storage at ics is about 980 mb
about 3D camera it works fine no problem at all with it the only problem is with the 3D converter not only for games but also with some videos it doesn't convert the 2D videos to 3D ones
games perform well with no lag with ics but keep in mind that battery consumption much more in ICS than in GB

Thanks for the answear. can you also tell about quality of the pictures in 2d? Are they the same as in GB o better?
Also are pictures saved in internal sd in the 8 gigas or in the external sd?
Thanks very much

well
i am not a big photographer i don't use camera too much but i think 2D pictures not bad you can ask someone else who like to capture many pictures
the captures images can be saved at the external SD not the 8 gb storage normally
you can switch storage from external SD to 8gb in the camera settings
if you needed any help in flashing you can pm me i like to help people

mktns said:
the only problem is with the 3D converter not only for games but also with some videos it doesn't convert the 2D videos to 3D ones
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3D Converter is meant for games that are programmed in Open GL. See here for a list of just a few games that work well with it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17845028

Drastic00, that's correct. Reason: OpenGL is mainly a video compute programming so the GPU driver can mirror two angles for two image frames (for ceramic plate angles in 3D mode), so what you get is stereoscopic 3D image. Not all games get along with Real3D chainlinking services so it's 2D for most.
My opinion on ICS: It's pretty good as far as I am concerned - one nice thing about it is that you get improved multi-core CPU scheduling in the pseudo-kernel service (Dalvik virtual machine software) so the apps run better compared to Gingerbread.
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Thanks for all your replies. I have flashed to ICS, and I have also hard reset my pone, for now it does work well, but pictures where better in GB. For all the rest it Works quiet good. Sometimes I have notice that it gets slow, specially when someone calls, it takes long time for the answear option to appear. Also the auto brightness does not work good. And also the problems I read about 3D pictures are there.
I will test it for a few days, and if this issue continues I will go back to Ginger, since it is very frustrating to try to answear a call. I have not tested in games since I don`t play much.
I have also notice that ram gets very fast to low levels and that is what makes it slow. I have dissable some application in the settings like google play books and google music.
Thanks

Crippled Multitasking in Stock 5.0.2 (XT1032)

Hey all,
After a frustrating month or two and a weekend of tinkering and troubleshooting I've lost patience and posted the below on the Moto support forums at https://forums.motorola.com/posts/c5fb348e02
So if you are experiencing similar issues please weigh in. If you have any ideas or a fix /workaround that doesn't involve rooting or custom Rom installation please let me know (I need access to my internet banking apps so root is a no no for the time being).
Hey Moto,
Why is the OOM/LMK with 5.0.2 so aggressive (XT1032) ? Multi-tasking wasn't great under KitKat but under Lollipop it's pretty much impossible. The most obvious and irritating symptom for me is music playback being killed within a few minutes (Play Music) if something like Chrome or Maps is open in the foreground. I used to be able to have navigation and music running in the car at the same time - no more.
So I've been on Lollipop for about 2 months now. The phone has been factory reset three times since and the last time I didn't use Google's Restore service post reset.
The observed symptoms are: The phone is quite happy whilst free memory is above about 250MB-300MB, nothing is killed and the phone maintains a healthy stash of cached apps. If free memory drops below about 250MB Android starts killing rather than caching and Developer Options/Process Stats reports the phone to be in a near permanent memory critical state. Why? There is still 1/3 of the installed RAM left - it shouldn't start killing background apps until sub 50MB is left surely?
I've uninstalled some of my less essential high priority user background apps (bye bye Muzei live wallpaper, by bye Dash Clock Widget) to make things bearable - it's memory critical about 20% of the time rather than 80% now - but it's ridiculous to have to limit oneself so much - 1Gb of memory should be sufficient to run a live wallpaper, a widget and one or 2 other relatively heavy background apps without crippling the device and it was sufficient under KitKat.
So can we expect a fix for this with 5.1 if it is coming our way? One potential clue - CyanoMod Developers have noted odd permissions, and if the permssions are fixed some crappy values in /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree - the permissions make the files unreadable. CM12.1 reportedly patches this and cures the crappy multitasking.
I've checked on my unrooted stock device and sure enough these parameter files are unreadable (other parameters in various parts of system / sys etc can be opened as read only).
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Few questions about RAM management on Android

Hello. First of all, sorry if I got to the wrong forum section and not writing to general topic for questions. I wanted more details/opinions on these questions.
So I have a low-end android phone (Nokia 5) (hopefully topic is not phone specific) which only has 2 GB of RAM. When phone is just booted, it can store up to like 15 applications in the background (I actually managed to store 20 applications there at some point). It doesn't matter what apps are there (heavy or light (excluding Camera (later on that))) it manages up to 15 without closing them off. But after few hours (let's say like 20 hours) the amount of apps it can hold is reduced to like 5 (it varies). Like.. I can close all the apps and reopen them again, but as soon as 6th app is opened, first opened app is closed. Simply.. The idea is that I find myself reopening apps more and more often as the time since last boot increases. I understand that my phone is limited on RAM and it couldn't hold 15 applications in the background all the time, but why exactly is this happening? What gets stored so heavily in RAM as the time since last boot increases? Settings show that amount of memory used is 1.4 GB out of 2GB (which is why I never trust that number). I've tried force closing all the applications to see if that is some app-specific, but only rebooting device "fixes" it back to 15+ apps.
And second question is: can it be that the time (those 20 hours) is shorter on Oreo? I mean.. On android 7.1.1 I would restart the device like once per 2 or 3 days to get it back to the best performance. In other words.. Time since last boot would be longer before it reduces amount of apps that can be held in the background. But Oreo is using lot less RAM on it's own which makes it weird. And my device had some issues on RAM management between android 7.1.1 and Oreo that were 'fixed' so I was wondering if it's just Oreo 'function' or those issues never were fully fixed.
Also, I was wondering if Camera applications usually take much RAM (when not in background). My phone is holding like 10 apps and as soon as I open Camera/take a picture (either stock or 3rd party) ~5+ apps are closed.
I know that my english is far from perfect, but hopefully somebody will be able to understand this scribble

Benderisas said:
Hello. First of all, sorry if I got to the wrong forum section and not writing to general ....
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Hi ,
The RAM management on Android is very smart in Android , since an app requires more RAM , Android will close himself some app state saved in the RAM ( what you called "App Running in background") so free up RAM and allocate it to the Game/Camera/Heavy RAM usage app.
15 app running in background is a proof of the power enclosed by the Android RAM management system.
When you reboot, the RAM memory is fully cleaned and the cache files (accumulated as you open and use apps) stored in it is cleared . That's why you can store more app running in background at the boot than after 20h.
So to answer your question , yes the camera app uses a lot of RAM , since it uses the kernel a lot and fully controls camera .
I don't know which is the best in RAM management between Nougat and Oreo but keeping at mind that Android improves most of the time at each update , I will advice you Oreo.
How this helped a bit
If anything I said above is incorrect or not complete , feel free to explain why it is and correct me :highfive:

That answered my third question about camera. First question was more of what is stored in RAM that it fills up. As far as computers go as I understand is that CPU cache has separate physical location away from RAM and unused files are stored in storage.
And second question is more about likeliness if Oreo could actually be worse even though it uses less RAM.

Benderisas said:
That answered my third question about camera. First question was more of what is stored in RAM that it fills up. As far as computers go as I understand is that CPU cache has separate physical ...
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I don't think Oreo will be worst than Nougat , because most of the changes for this update was "behind the scene" , so I think it can be better.
For the RAM memory , she's filled by the data of the apps running in background , and when you use them , they store more and more data in it that's why at the end of the day your phone can be less powerful than at the boot up.
And I don't think CPU can store anything , it's doing task rather than store the memory , that's his role.

is 6GB enough ram?

Given that the 8gb version seems to have vanished, I'm looking at the 6gb variety.
My huawei mate 10 has only 4gb and it kills off pretty much every app given the chance. With the zenfone, is 6gb enough to have eg gcam, Facebook, WhatsApp and YouTube all in memory? Or will it start purging like the pixel or my phone?
Thanks

I have a 6 GB Mate 10 and it's fine for me, although I disabled Power Genie with Titanium Backup.

huawei's OEM System is known to have some rather extreme memory and power saving systems which do indeed save power and memory, but at the cost of the user experience and functionality (Calendar alerts not firing, for example). Some of your problem might be that.
Even if you don't run out of RAM, Android will force applications to quit once you switch too many apps, because of the background limit. You might want to look into raising that. You an find it in dev options maybe. The apps themselves might close if they run int the background too long too.
Personally I'd be fine with the 6GB version. I have an 8GB phone right now and I could easily run with 3GB because I don't use soul and RAM sucking anti-social media apps.
You should profile your current phone and figure out how much you are using. Use a tool like OS Monitor.
Good luck!

I can't download anything to my phone

Good morning everyone,
A few months ago I bought a new phone: a samsung Grand prime. I'm so disappointed in this purchase.
Despite the fact that I added a memory card, I can't do anything with this phone. It's saturated 24 hours a day. I have to do the following at least 2 times: settings > device maintenance > storage > cleaning) to be able to continue using it.
The only applications I have managed to download are Facebook, instagram, whatsapp and viber. Nothing really crazy though. I can't access my photos anymore (I can't open the gallery because the storage space is supposedly insufficient) even though all my photos have been transferred to the card.
Does anyone have the same problem? And if not, what brand, model will you advise me?
Thank you for your help.

My goodness you bought a really really really old phone.. If I remember correctly 2014.. Or was it 2013.
Things is this. Apps have evolved to require more processing power.. And require more storage and ram and processing power.
I'm not sure if this is a new thread or a really old thread.. Im just surprised you can still buy this phone brand new in 2020.
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vivelasieste said:
Good morning everyone,
A few months ago I bought a new phone: a samsung Grand prime. I'm so disappointed in this purchase.
Despite the fact that I added a memory card, I can't do anything with this phone. It's saturated 24 hours a day. I have to do the following at least 2 times: settings > device maintenance > storage > cleaning) to be able to continue using it.
The only applications I have managed to download are Facebook, instagram, whatsapp and viber. Nothing really crazy though. I can't access my photos anymore (I can't open the gallery because the storage space is supposedly insufficient) even though all my photos have been transferred to the card.
Does anyone have the same problem? And if not, what brand, model will you advise me?
Thank you for your help.
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The apps that you listed are social media apps, social media apps are well known for demanding a lot from your devices hardware resources(CPU, RAM, etc). It is no surprise that your device struggles to keep up with demand with multiple social media apps installed, they are running constantly in the background even after you close them, they continually run in order to scan for notifications for those apps.
As for not being able to view your photos due to insufficient space. That may be because your device has a limited /data or cache partition. Even when viewing content that is stored on an external sdcard, it cannot be displayed unless it is loaded into your cache partition. If your cache partition does not have enough free space, it can't load or display the photo.
You can try partitioning your external sdcard to create a "swap" partition that acts as a type of RAM/cache in order to store actively loaded/running files/processes. This may give your device more "cache" to use.
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vash_h said:
My goodness you bought a really really really old phone.. If I remember correctly 2014.. Or was it 2013.
Things is this. Apps have evolved to require more processing power.. And require more storage and ram and processing power.
I'm not sure if this is a new thread or a really old thread.. Im just surprised you can still buy this phone brand new in 2020.
Sent from my SM-G985F using Tapatalk
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Okay, that explains it, then, lol.
Unfortunately, it's a recent thread. I was on vacation in Africa, and I dropped my phone (oops). It was unusable. So I tried to buy a phone that wasn't too expensive and that I could still use.
I took this one at random, the salesman didn't really advise me either.

Droidriven said:
The apps that you listed are social media apps, social media apps are well known for demanding a lot from your devices hardware resources(CPU, RAM, etc). It is no surprise that your device struggles to keep up with demand with multiple social media apps installed, they are running constantly in the background even after you close them, they continually run in order to scan for notifications for those apps.
As for not being able to view your photos due to insufficient space. That may be because your device has a limited /data or cache partition. Even when viewing content that is stored on an external sdcard, it cannot be displayed unless it is loaded into your cache partition. If your cache partition does not have enough free space, it can't load or display the photo.
You can try partitioning your external sdcard to create a "swap" partition that acts as a type of RAM/cache in order to store actively loaded/running files/processes. This may give your device more "cache" to use.
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how do I partition my external card please?
I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.

vivelasieste said:
Good morning everyone,
A few months ago I bought a new phone: a samsung Grand prime. I'm so disappointed in this purchase.
Despite the fact that I added a memory card, I can't do anything with this phone. It's saturated 24 hours a day. I have to do the following at least 2 times: settings > device maintenance > storage > cleaning) to be able to continue using it.
The only applications I have managed to download are Facebook, instagram, whatsapp and viber. Nothing really crazy though. I can't access my photos anymore (I can't open the gallery because the storage space is supposedly insufficient) even though all my photos have been transferred to the card.
Does anyone have the same problem? And if not, what brand, model will you advise me?
Thank you for your help.
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I had such a problem with the old phone, try to find something new.
For instance:
Samsung Galaxy M21;
Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Lite;
Samsung Galaxy A41;
Samsung Galaxy A51