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For the background to my issue please read the following thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44279573#post44279573
This thread is to give my experience of the RMA service that I have received, not the fault itself which was "fixed".
So essentially I was advised by Asus support that DHL would come with a special box to take the tablet away and to send all accessories such as the charger with the tab. However the DHL email said that I should pack in my own box and not to include any accessories. It was not clear to me whether the keyboard and charger would count as accessories or not. I decided not to include the charger as I had already verified that wasn't the cause of my issue and the charger is listed on Asus's own website as an accessory. However I was later told that I should have included the charger. All a bit confusing, mixed information but a small issue when you read below. I can't fault the tracker service or the speed of the "repair" either. I was happy to know exactly where my tablet was at all times and that it wasn't going missing.
Now everything I thought was fine until my I opened the box last Friday with my freshly "repaired" tablet. Like many of you guys I take extremely good care of my tech. I could have easily passed my tablet off as brand new with not so much as a hairline scratch on it after 10 months use. You can imagine my horror when I saw what it looked like on return. Essentially the list of problems is as follows;
Curve along bottom edge of tablet that should be flat.
Screen not fitted properly on right hand side.
Screen not fitted properly on left hand side.
Damage to case on power connector socket.
Plastic strip on top rear not fitted properly.
Haptic vibration creates a noise like a duck quack.
HDMI output has horrible red interference.
Glue residue on back of casing.
I have attached images below for you to see the quality of the repair work. What is especially annoying is that when I first called up to complain on Friday the only thing they were interested in was if I had pictures from before I sent the tab in. I am annoyed because when I raised a concern about the quality of repair work prior to sending my tablet I was assured by Asus Support that the repairers were monitored for quality of work and everything would be fine. It was only because of my mistrusting nature with this type of thing that I took pictures showing the condition it was in and how I packed it.
It should be noted that I only expected the battery to be replaced during the repair. According to the service report the screen and the motherboard were also replaced. I now believe that they must have been damaged during their removal from the now damaged shell case. To cover their tracks they listed faults with them which would require replacement such as "mechanical fault". I am absolutely furious with Asus over this shoddy repair and have informed them that I do not accept the repair and am seeking a new tablet to replace the one they have ruined. I am yet to have a response after sending them the pictures and I will keep the thread updated as I do. :crying::crying::crying:
Mine is in Texas right now with digitizer problems. Mine is as yours WAS, like new in appearance. I hope to God it is returned in the same condition. There is no excuse for returning a customers stuff in that condition. If they botched up the repairs that badly they should have replaced it.
Good luck, hope they resolve it for you. It clearly appears from your pics that they botched the job and owe you a replacement.
I recently had my digitizer repaired by the Texas facility and mine came back in the same pristine condition it was in when I sent it and the repair was without problems.
Keep us posted.
That truly is one awful repair job.
"Haptic vibration creates a noise like a duck quack."
This did make me laugh tho
flumpster said:
That truly is one awful repair job.
"Haptic vibration creates a noise like a duck quack."
This did make me laugh tho
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Yeah, if I wasn't so annoyed I'd probably find it funny too.... Sound file uploaded for your consideration... (I had to zip it as the forum didn't like mp3 or aac).
I'm sorry to hear all that mate! That is shocking. Stand your ground and don't take no for an answer.
I appreciate the kind words folks. Apparently my photos have been forwarded to the correct department within Asus. Which I hope is the "sending out new tablet department".
Your case tells me I should consider myself lucky they (the same service center) only slashed the box!
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Wow, talk about screwing up a repair... This reinforces my belief that sending in my 700 for a screen repair (a nice crack in the upper right corner) is a bad idea.
Good luck with the fight ahead!
An update for everyone. I sent over the pictures of before and after as requested. My email was rejected as being too large (around 12Mb I think it was). I asked what was the maximum size email I could send and received no response. I then decided to split the email in to 5, ensuring that each email was less than 5Mb. Over a week later I enquired what was the status to be told the person dealing with my request was on holiday and would reply the next day. I duly received a reply saying that they still needed pictures of (.....) so it seems they could only find 1 of my clearly labelled 5 emails (number 1 to 5).
I was also informed that I would not be entitled to a replacement tablet as warranty only provides for a repair. I replied to that email by saying that "I am also entitled to a quality of repair that doesn't damage the rest of my tablet in the process. I am not claiming for warranty repair work to be done on my tablet, I am saying that during the warranty repair of my tablets battery, my tablet was unneccessarily damaged due to poor workmanship and now needs replacing."
The last email I have received says they have now got the photos and my request has been forwarded to "higher management". I don't know who higher management is, but let's hope it is someone who is just as horrified as me at the quality of repair work and agrees that somoene paying top price for their electronics and takes the time to look after them properly, should not have to accept such poor standards from Asus themselves. They're making it really hard for me to ever consider spending money on an Asus product again.
Once again, fingers crossed.
I have receied a response from Asus;
"Dear John,
Thank you for awaiting our response.
Kindly note that the management investigated your case and decided to offer you a free of charges repair.
They came to that conclusion as the key out video, the video that record whether a customer’s unit left the repair centre in a good condition was of poor quality, because so we can't see if the unit was damaged or not.
Please let me know if you want to proceed with the free of charges repair? Once your response is received I will create a new repair RMA to and book a collection. What would be a convenient collection date?
We look forward to your response.
Kind Regards,"
I read that to mean: Asus can't prove that it wasn't their fault the tablet was damaged, and I can. Therefore they will just repair it for me. I am supposed to be grateful that this won't cost me anything. For my inconvenience they are offering me nothing in return. I would have thought at least they would have offered some sort of token to apologise, even if they won't replace the tablet.
What do you guys think? If they repair it and it looks as good as it did previously, I wouldn't have a problem. I'm just worried that it will come back looking as bad/worse. My real concern is that if the outside is a mess, is the inside put together properly? Is the tablet going to fail in another few months because a connector hasn't been put on properly inside, or a wire has been part way cut through/trapped, etc, etc...
I've emailed them to have one more try at getting a replacement, which I really think is the honorable thing to do. At least I know what kind of company Asus aspire to be. Currently I don't think I'll be going anywhere near anything Asus ever again.
Imho they should replace it, they made a mess with the repair so it's their fault. You sent the device in perfect condition so their duty is to send it back after repair in the same condition. I wonder what they mean with repair now, replacing the body and keep the internal parts or what.
Whatever, if you accept this repair offer make it clear that you expect a perfect repair and also the device must return in perfect condition, wtf, you paid for the damn thing. Good luck!
Thanks for the reply and support.
I'm rightly playing hardball so avoided asking details of the proposed repair. Don't worry though, I would need to understand exactly what their proposed repair solution is before I would agree or send away my tablet to them again. Unlucky for them that I'm a professional mechanical design engineer used to dealing with quality engineering.
Gudders said:
Thanks for the reply and support.
I'm rightly playing hardball so avoided asking details of the proposed repair. Don't worry though, I would need to understand exactly what their proposed repair solution is before I would agree or send away my tablet to them again. Unlucky for them that I'm a professional mechanical design engineer used to dealing with quality engineering.
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I RMA'd my Asus TF300T around 3 months ago due to LCD banding and light bleed (Asus UK service center in the Czech Republic). There were numerous problems with the repair. Firstly, the charger was badly scuffed, the plastic casing was popping out (exposing the headphone jack and other ports) , the screen was on an angle, the glass wasn't glued down securely (movement/creaking) and they managed to chip part of the plastic surrounding the screen. I showed the problem to the store's manager (Argos, as I let them deal with it) and she agreed that she would let me have an exchange or pick a different tablet without argument. I exchanged for a Note 10.1.
Hope your issue gets resolved.
I would INSIST on the tablet being replaced and not repaired. It's pretty obvious that they can't make proper repairs already.
BTW: I got mine back with no cosmetic damage at all. So a proper repair is possible they just need some new employees at that repair facility.
Mine was in for the touch screen. I have no idea what was done. Right after I restored all my apps, about 4 hours, it started acting badly again. I called Asus on the phone. I was given another RMA and emailed a return shipping label. During my phone call I turned off the tablet. It was powered down for about 15 minutes. I powered it back up and have not had one incident with the touch screen since! Its been a week without trouble from the screen. I called to inform them at Asus and was told the RMA is good for 30 days. If problems develop just use it to send it back.
So far, so good.. .. .
It seems that Asus are are refusing to budge on the issue. My concern now is that due to the bend and stress on the screen at some point in the future it may crack and I'll be left without a tablet forever, so it seems I may have to relent and send it in for repair anyway :crying:
I have still had no answer from Asus on the following;
The screen was replaced, including the LED backlight. I have no idea why they were. A problem has been listed of "Abnormal lines on display". I never reported such a fault. My suggestion is that the screen was damaged on removal at the same time as the case was damaged through carelessness.
The motherboard was replaced. Again I have no idea why. I don't know if the charging issues related to the motherbaord or not. I don't believe so as everything else functioned correctly. Was the motherboard also damaged on removal?
"Mechanical Error" was listed as a problem. I have no idea at all what this refers to. The keyboard has not been touched, thankfully, and except for the power/vol buttons (which are terrible to begin with, and worse now) what else mechanical is there?
Asus have offered me nothing as a token of apology. I would have expected at the least to send me an accessory, or money off asus products in the store, something along those lines. Nothing, zip.
My folks were looking into buying a tablet and I was recommending them a Nexus 7. However that will definitely not be happening now. If anyone else is having second thoughts, or actually cancelled/changed their mind on buying Asus after reading this please PM me. I'll be happy to forward the statistics to Asus themselves.
Gudders said:
It seems that Asus are are refusing to budge on the issue. My concern now is that due to the bend and stress on the screen at some point in the future it may crack and I'll be left without a tablet forever, so it seems I may have to relent and send it in for repair anyway :crying:
I have still had no answer from Asus on the following;
The screen was replaced, including the LED backlight. I have no idea why they were. A problem has been listed of "Abnormal lines on display". I never reported such a fault. My suggestion is that the screen was damaged on removal at the same time as the case was damaged through carelessness.
The motherboard was replaced. Again I have no idea why. I don't know if the charging issues related to the motherbaord or not. I don't believe so as everything else functioned correctly. Was the motherboard also damaged on removal?
"Mechanical Error" was listed as a problem. I have no idea at all what this refers to. The keyboard has not been touched, thankfully, and except for the power/vol buttons (which are terrible to begin with, and worse now) what else mechanical is there?
Asus have offered me nothing as a token of apology. I would have expected at the least to send me an accessory, or money off asus products in the store, something along those lines. Nothing, zip.
My folks were looking into buying a tablet and I was recommending them a Nexus 7. However that will definitely not be happening now. If anyone else is having second thoughts, or actually cancelled/changed their mind on buying Asus after reading this please PM me. I'll be happy to forward the statistics to Asus themselves.
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Any update?
mr.fast said:
Any update?
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Not as such. I have been given an address that I can write to to lodge a formal complaint;
FAO Service manager
AsusTek U.K. LTD.
1st floor Hemel One
Boundary way
Hemel Hempstead
HP2 7YU
I am waiting for an RMA number so I can send my tablet back for a second repair. I have been assured that the service centre will be prepared and will make ammends for the poor repair that was done last time. I have no other choice but to go with this option for the time being. I have no idea what response I will get from the above address
Gudders said:
Not as such. I have been given an address that I can write to to lodge a formal complaint;
FAO Service manager
AsusTek U.K. LTD.
1st floor Hemel One
Boundary way
Hemel Hempstead
HP2 7YU
I am waiting for an RMA number so I can send my tablet back for a second repair. I have been assured that the service centre will be prepared and will make ammends for the poor repair that was done last time. I have no other choice but to go with this option for the time being. I have no idea what response I will get from the above address
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Any chance of an update ?
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Any chance of an update ?
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Tablet has been with Asus since 24th September back at Brno, CZ. Anticipated completion date of next Monday 7th October. It only took a week to "repair" last time but they may be having a closer look at what has gone on and take a little longer. I'm happy for them to do that and get it right. Just a shame that I am away in Italy at the back end of this week on business and it would have been great to have my tablet to watch a film, keep up to date, etc.
Once I receive it back I shall be writing my complaint letter.
So, my z3 took a swim in a lake. Wasn't deep at all and only for a few minutes.
Result, water damage, phone completely dead.
Sony have checked the phone and have confirmed the water damage. They will repair the phone, but because water damage isn't covered by warranty, they will charge around USD350 to repair.
Argh, what to do? Only had the phone for about 6 months.
Z5 does look tempting, but so expensive (at the moment) and also no rootability.
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Ask to escalate to a manager, don't take no for an answer. They replaced mine and I understand that they acknowledge these problems.
Insist on it, water damage from assembly defect is covered under warranty assuming you didn't misuse your phone. Not sure if it's different in the USA but I talked with a Sony service manager and he confirmed that they can test the device for defects and if an assembly defect is found they'll repair it under warranty.
Thanks guys. Unfortunately in this case it seems they are not backing down (dealing with Sony in Hong Kong, if that makes a difference). They are saying the LCD panel and the mainboard are water damaged. I spoke to them yesterday and they said they are not going to be able to fix it, but instead will offer me a refurbished phone for the previously quoted price of c. USD350.
They did note that the back cover of the phone was slightly lifted, so it is a good chance the water went in through there. In all fairness this was probably my fault (FYI this was pointed out to me when I took the phone in for repair) as I have dropped the phone a few times. As much as I want to claim, I don't think this was a faulty phone situation.
i submerged mine in a pool and rivers several times, last time i did it the screen went black only led working camera glass was foggy what i did was i openned de flaps i left inside my car 1 hour, i too it out after that hour. the camera glass was still foggy then with my mouth started to suck air from the sim card/micro sd slot i did it until the fogg disapered waited a few minutes the camera went foggy on more time i repeated the process of sucking air waited a few minutes the fogg disapered and i turned it on, it was working again without flaws except the camera but one hour later the camera went back again
dont know what happened if it was luck or what but thats what i did
Just an update.
Sony wouldn't back down on the cost, however I was able to make a claim with my travel insurance company. They have agreed to cover the replacement cost. Only wrinkle now is that Sony don't have stock of a z3 and have to put an order in, will take a few weeks to receive.
When you get new LCD screen (if old is broken), the phone isn't anymore watteproof
I'm having a small crack in my home button which I talked about here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/small-crack-home-button-t3355998/post66315736
I'm in a confusion whether to go and get it repaired by Samsung or not. Because once I approached Samsung's approved service centre (@ 2014) when my Galaxy S3 had a minor hardware issue (for the reason I quoted in one of my post) after replacement period. A person I closely know there (one of the repair guy) advised not to better give it for repair for this silly issue to any Samsung service centers and to better cover it with a case/cover since they were kind of bad at servicing and that they might mess up something else. So I'm kind of in a confusion in the case of my GS7's home button issue. What do you guys say? Should I go for warranty repair?
Well, I would. Take a series of photos of the state of your phone before sending just so you have proof of the condition.
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^^ this guy said it best
So.. a couple of weeks ago, I dropped my phone and it stopped working completely. The back glass is cracked and at first it was completely dead, I wasn't able to turn it on or anything. Later it eventually booted and it's currently working fine (all hardware things are working fine). I decided to get a back glass replacement anyway just because it will cut my fingers when used without a case.
So, I requested a repair, and today OnePlus "approved it", they sent me an email message from UPS and here the nightmare begins.. I also got an email from the repair center that will be replacing my back glass, the only problem is... that this repair center is possibly the biggest scamming repair center in my country. When You Google their company name, You can find hundreds of bad reviews and threads on various forums where people talk about it how they got scammed or how they send their phones to that repair center with for example battery that was draining very quickly (phone still on warranty) and they got an email from the repair center that the phone suffered water damage and motherboard has to be replaced (even though the owner said that his phone never even got close to any liquid or water), and the cost of repair is literally 2x the price of a new phone. (Later the guy replaced the battery by himself and phone was working fine, so as You can see liquid damaged motherboard was BS)
I do understand that bad reviews are normal and most repair centers have at least one or two of those, but.. like 2-3 years ago I bought a tablet (it cost around $75). I just needed some cheap tablet to watch YT videos etc. After some time the tablet randomly died and I sent it to the SAME repair center that OP uses. After 3-4 weeks I got an email saying that tablet repair will cost around $100 (30 USD more than price of a new tablet) and guess what they said when I asked them what's wrong with it. They said that sim card pins are shorted and it killed the motherboard. Well. I'm not a phone/tablet repair expert so I can't tell if shorted sim card pins can break Your motherboard. (Later I tried shorting sim card pins on some old flip phone and nothing happened, but then again, newer technology might be more sensitive IDK) But! The problem is.. that tablet didn't have a sim card slot! . Eventually after 2 months of fighting with the store and the repair center, store agreed to give me my money back and I just saved it and bought Mi Pad 2 later from China (it still works perfectly!).
So as You can see, even I already had terrible experience with this repair center. Now, my question is. What am I supposed to do now? I don't really care about warranty as local repair services charge 1/3rd of the price for repair. So I can just give my phone to them and lose the warranty. Or I can order replacement back and replace it by myself. Or I can send my phone to that repair center that OP uses and most likely never see my phone again or get a 500 USD bill.
What should I do guys? Right now I'm thinking about replacing the back glass by myself. I've done it before like 3 times (on my family's phones) and everything went pretty smoothly. Or I could just give it to local repair service and they will fix it in 1 hour if I'll give them my phone and new back glass.
(Remember that this repair center isn't OP's official repair center, they repair a lot of no brand/generic smartphones and tablets, sadly including OP's phones.)
There are no easy answers. You can purchase the back housing directly from OP or from the following link for under $20
https://www.witrigs.com/oem-battery-cover-camera-lens-ring-replacement-for-oneplus-6-midnight-black
or you can look at iFixit website for the back panel
I would suggest taking it to the place like: https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations (Samsung uses their services). If they ask for around $50-$75 for the labor cost, you will get the back glass replaced for under $100 which (at least to me) seems reasonable cost. Good luck. Keep us posted which route did you end up taking?
Gr8man001 said:
There are no easy answers. You can purchase the back housing directly from OP or from the following link for under $20
https://www.witrigs.com/oem-battery-cover-camera-lens-ring-replacement-for-oneplus-6-midnight-black
or you can look at iFixit website for the back panel
I would suggest taking it to the place like: https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations (Samsung uses their services). If they ask for around $50-$75 for the labor cost, you will get the back glass replaced for under $100 which (at least to me) seems reasonable cost. Good luck. Keep us posted which route did you end up taking?
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Huge Thanks for telling me about Witrigs website! They even sell all tools needed for the repair.
I decided that I won't send it to that repair center. Even reviews posted this month are negative. So they haven't changed for sure. I don't care about warranty so I'm just going to fix it by myself most likely. Tomorrow I'll go to my local repair service and I'm going to ask them how much they want for back replacement if I'll give them new back glass + phone. If it won't be too expensive then I'll order new back from Witrigs or AliExpress and then I'll give them everything and they will fix it. And if they are going to ask for too much then I'm just going to fix it by myself.
Last time I asked them for display replacement cost (Galaxy S6) they said that they will charge me $30 + new display price. It was some time ago though.
We will see. Thanks for the links!
Good luck!! I think other users will benefit if you loop back and let us know the total cost and difficulty in getting the parts, etc. Take care.
Do it yourself. Slow and carefully. Watch some youtube video how to do it. Good luck!
Another vote on doing it yourself, especially since you've done this type thing before. Just be mindful of trying to do this in a somewhat dust free environment since you are removing the camera cover... don't want to get dust or fingerprints on inside of that cover or the lens that will stay forever. And make sure to seal that camera good.
Good luck :good:
I set my phone down and picked it up only to find dead Pixels in the lower right of the screen! Anyone else have this happen. I haven't dropped the phone or gotten it wet. I am sending it off to Samsung Thursday. I hope they fix it and don't come up with some excuse to to warranty the dead Pixels.
I've had this happen as well. I sent it off to be fixed but when it came back, the front display wasn't working. Now I'll have to send it off again...
What a mess. You would think they would just give you a new phone. They wanted me to take it to one of these fix it places here in Dallas. I opted to send it to the official samsung repair. We shall see.
Yep, me too
This just happened to me an hour ago. I have not damaged the phone in any way. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another Galaxy Fold debacle.
Update: I just called Sprint and since I am within the 30 day satisfaction window, they are going to replace my phone. If this happens again then I'll be highly disappointed!
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What a mess. You would think they would just give you a new phone. They wanted me to take it to one of these fix it places here in Dallas. I opted to send it to the official samsung repair. We shall see.
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Hey what was the update ? I live in dallas too. and I have exactly the same concern. Its good to know what they say before i go there.
Same here. I sent it in for repair, got slammed back with out of warranty due to an invisible scratch in a totally different spot, with their own admission is unrelated to the dead pixel and fault in the screen, and is only on the outer cover...but still invalidate warranty....I switched to Samsung 3 years ago, I might be trying google next...can't replace a good customer service when it matters.
I took my phone to the Samsung repair place uBreakiFix located at 6205 Coit Rd Suite 336, Plano, TX 75024. They fixed it under warranty. Now my phone is really getting hot. So hot is is starting to burn my face when I talk on it. Looks like i will be calling samsung again. I am afraid this thing is going to explode.
Dead Pixels x2!
I am already on my 2nd Galaxy Z Flip and now trying to get #3! My first phone developed a spot of dead pixels in the middle of the screen. They magically appeared less than 24 hours after I received it. It was only plugged in to charge overnight, so I know that they were not caused by me. It then took over 3 weeks of multiple calls to finally get it replaced! At first, they kept trying to get me to send it in for a refund, and then told me that I could just buy a new one to fix it. I told them that they were dumb and that this was not a logical option. I received this phone through the Samsung Device Insights program for 1/2 price and a replacement would cost me the full amount.
Finally, after spending another hour on the phone and telling my story for the 50th time, I finally got through to someone in a higher up support office. He agreed with me that the previous calls and my experiences were ridiculous. He took the time to contact a local authorized Samsung repair store where he could send a replacement phone for me to pick up. On the bright side, I only had to turn in the phone, and I got a completely brand new one in the box. He said I could keep all the accessories from the original phone. While it did take a few days longer than I was originally told, I did eventually get the new phone.
Fast forward to today, I have had this replacement device for exactly 20 days. I am presently at work and when I opened the phone to check my messages, I found MORE DEAD PIXELS! Just like the last phone, they are always visible, only this time they are at the top of the display. I made another call back into Samsung, and I am currently waiting for a return phone call from Anthony. He just so happens to be the same upper level support person that I spoke with last time. He was the only one that was able to get the phone swapped out. Now I am hoping he will call me back to get this taken care of again.
I will say that If I do not get a call today as promised, I am sending it back for a full refund and I will never again buy another Samsung product. I am leery about even getting a 3rd unit after the horrible experiences I have had. Have any of you had similar problems and did they get your defective phone screens repaired/replaced as promised? So far, I am very underwhelmed and think that Samsung has a long way to go to provide proper customer service.
Me too
I've had a Z flip for 5 months and tiny dead pixels on the top of screen.
I've never dropped nor wet.
I went to Samsung repair shop in London and they told me that they can't repair under warranty and I had to pay 99 pounds.
They mentioned that they could see tiny scratch on the screen which I couldn't see my eyes.
My friends told me that Samsung after care are terrible and I agree that.
I've been carefull this phone and I've never had a problem with dead pixels before.
I felt I was conned and very disappointed with Samsung