Background apps and screen - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

So, am I the only one that my background apps dont really run? I have the batter saving turned off. But lyve and good app specifically just stop working in the background. Seeing as how the good app is work email, it REALLY sucks.
Also, whenever I get any kind of gmail, text, etc, the screen comes on and weird **** happens. My boss called and it said it was my brother. I guess some contact exchanging happened in my pocket or something. So odd. I have since turned on the keep screen off in dark places option, and it seems to have helped.

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[Q] Random issues.

I didn't think this would be a development thread so i'm starting it here. This is just some of the random issues I'm having.. and was wondering if anyone else was having these or any other issues.
The unknown notification on lockscreen is apparently for other people too.. and i've noticed it's dealing with the stock messaging app. Has anyone figured out how to turn off the counter on the stock launcher for the stock messaging app if you're using a different app like Handcent?
Random lockups. My phone will not come out of sleep.. or i won't be able to unlock it. nothing will be on the screen and i have to pull the battery in order to do anything.
random FC of an app.. or just not even notified of the FC just get this vibrate then double vibrate and everything crashes back to the home screen. First did it when i started setting up the device. and done it a few times since. I've also had one time that was continuous of "vibrate...double vibrate" over and over and over and over.. you get the picture.. and i had to pull the battery.
Is anyone else having these issues or anything similar? Or should I run back to the store and exchange this sucker?
syph0r said:
I didn't think this would be a development thread so i'm starting it here. This is just some of the random issues I'm having.. and was wondering if anyone else was having these or any other issues.
The unknown notification on lockscreen is apparently for other people too.. and i've noticed it's dealing with the stock messaging app. Has anyone figured out how to turn off the counter on the stock launcher for the stock messaging app if you're using a different app like Handcent?
Random lockups. My phone will not come out of sleep.. or i won't be able to unlock it. nothing will be on the screen and i have to pull the battery in order to do anything.
random FC of an app.. or just not even notified of the FC just get this vibrate then double vibrate and everything crashes back to the home screen. First did it when i started setting up the device. and done it a few times since. I've also had one time that was continuous of "vibrate...double vibrate" over and over and over and over.. you get the picture.. and i had to pull the battery.
Is anyone else having these issues or anything similar? Or should I run back to the store and exchange this sucker?
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No problems here at the moment, had it about a week and havent seen any of the problems you are mentioning. But this is just for me.
I get this hard crash (vibrate... double vibrate... soft reboot) at random times. It seems to be when I'm running several apps at once. For example, driving to work,I use (Google) Navigation and Doggcatcher for playing podcasts, while GPS and Bluetooth are both enabled.
These apps have been rock solid for me with the 5 other Android phones I've had. Besides, the crashes happen with other combinations of apps. Come to think of it, audio playback is usually (always?) involved, be it with Xiia or the stupid built-in music app.
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random FC of an app.. or just not even notified of the FC just get this vibrate then double vibrate and everything crashes back to the home screen. First did it when i started setting up the device. and done it a few times since. I've also had one time that was continuous of "vibrate...double vibrate" over and over and over and over.. you get the picture.. and i had to pull the battery.
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Randy Power said:
I get this hard crash (vibrate... double vibrate... soft reboot) at random times. It seems to be when I'm running several apps at once. For example, driving to work,I use (Google) Navigation and Doggcatcher for playing podcasts, while GPS and Bluetooth are both enabled.
These apps have been rock solid for me with the 5 other Android phones I've had. Besides, the crashes happen with other combinations of apps. Come to think of it, audio playback is usually (always?) involved, be it with Xiia or the stupid built-in music app.
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that's what i've been noticing. but sometimes i'm not even running many apps. i haven't put much on the phone since i've been having these issues, but these apps work perfectly even on my G1. i think i'm just having odd issues with my phone pretty sure its getting exchanged on monday.
I hav the odd vibrating too...Not sure if I should return the phone or not.
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i think the "odd vibrating" where its a single vibration.. then 2 quick vibrations.. is a sign of an FC.. not 100% sure.. but thats what i see going on when it happens to me. I've also noticed when i'm outside and thinks i'm selecting things or moving the trackball thing. always to the right.. i think my phone is faulty..
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i think the "odd vibrating" where its a single vibration.. then 2 quick vibrations.. is a sign of an FC.. not 100% sure.. but thats what i see going on when it happens to me. I've also noticed when i'm outside and thinks i'm selecting things or moving the trackball thing. always to the right.. i think my phone is faulty..
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I like that it vibrate to tell you, but other people don't get that?Maybe mines is faulty too?
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I get the double vibrate and bam, FC's. Usually when im trying to open up and or lots of stuff at once on my phone or using a different launcher "adw" or others and it would happen. Wheres the fix ey.
is anyone having a problem with notifications? i use GoSms, and it doesn't seem to sound the ringtone i have selected, the message just comes in silently..... and same with Beejive IM, and i think K9 mail. all these things worked perfectly on my EPIC 4G.
i was using handcent.. and it was working fine.. minus the unlock screen unknown notification. but everything else has been making sounds just fine.
syph0r said:
i was using handcent.. and it was working fine.. minus the unlock screen unknown notification. but everything else has been making sounds just fine.
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Dang ok, well I may have to unroot mine if possible, and take it back, haha. So I'll be watching for a response to your question in the other thread.
Edit: I fixed my notifications..... somehow my notification volume had been turned all the way down, so I wasn't getting any sounds for texts, emails, etc. Not sure how it got turned down, but sometimes I guess settings can get jarred by various things we do to our phones.

Nexus s internet problem

I had my OTA update like 29 of july or smth... everything was smooth till two days ago when suddenly i realised that putting my phone on standby mode (closing the screen) made my internet not working.
I use both WiFi in my home and 3g outside. in both situations when my phone goes to stand by it recieves no updates on anything. When I open it then all the messages from heytell or whatsapp come on along with fb notifications etc.
The blue bars of the signal are blue when i open my phone from stand by mode. then they become grey and then blue again. at that time is when i get all my notifications i had lost whilst in stand by mode. This is really frustrating. I reset my phone etc but the problem persists.. i read somewhere that some ppl said turning the cpu to 750mhz makes it keep the signal... in my opinion this is a HUGE problem and it needs to be patched officially.
However i need to say that in stand by mode it still rings for phone calls... I dont know what to make of it and i would appreciate someones help.
Thank you in advance.
Blue bars=connected to Google Services, which would explain why you get all your Google stuff the minute the bars turn to blue. Are you sure you don't have some battery saving app(ie: Juice Defender) running? I have to ask because people overlook things when they start to have issues with their phone.
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Blue bars=connected to Google Services, which would explain why you get all your Google stuff the minute the bars turn to blue. Are you sure you don't have some battery saving app(ie: Juice Defender) running? I have to ask because people overlook things when they start to have issues with their phone.
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yeap i dont have anything like that since i already know that it has to do with the voltage of stand by mode. i read it somewhere. unfortunately i installed only the basic stuff from the reset and still it made that problem. :S

Screen turning on when receiving notifications?

So this is my first Samsung TouchWiz phone since the Droid Charge. I currently have the Always On Display option on. Every time I get a notification from the messenger or even Snapchat, my screen automatically turns itself on. Is this a normal TouchWiz thing? I haven't really noticed it with Gmail yet, but I'll keep an eye out for that.
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I had always display on option on as well, did not have this issue yet, look at the setting, maybe you will find a solution there.

Notifications suck. Why are they so delayed and random?

What's going on with notifications? They are showing up at completely random times on my Pixel. Just got a gmail notification from an email that arrived 3 hours ago. This has been happening constantly. I wake up in the morning, look at the phone, see no emails, then suddenly a bunch pop up. I thought it might be related to some sort of doze feature, but it's happening even when I've been using my phone quite regularly.
This is ridiculous. Never had this happen before.
I agree. It's gotta be doze.
I'm shocked this isn't a widely discussed topic. It's happening non-stop. I just missed an email fro 4 hours ago and I was even using my phone several times to make calls during that time, so it wasn't even idle.
WTF is going on?
I KNOW YOU SAID GMAIL APP
However, a LOT of apps are not updated for 7.1 so any number of old apps that control notifications in some way may be breaking things.
It sounds exactly like something is interfering with the ability of phone to check or deliver notifications on time. Like a faulty app making a request or insisting some loop then crashing finally and allowing notifications through.
I think Doze is interfering with SOME of my notifications, but my problems don't seem as severe as all of yours.
You can troubleshoot by removing old apps and testing if notifications are blocked, then add apps back 1 by 1.
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i noticed this non stop until I disabled battery optimization for those applications (calendar, email, messenger, gmail, etc). Battery is still fine and I have zero issues with notifications
huviduc said:
i noticed this non stop until I disabled battery optimization for those applications (calendar, email, messenger, gmail, etc). Battery is still fine and I have zero issues with notifications
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It would be *really* interesting to know exactly which app's (the full list? you disabled battery optimization on. Could you list them all in more detail?
I just disabled it on Calendar, Gmail, Messenger and I am still getting delayed notifications in Gmail!!!
This is a *BAD* problem, Google!
I know people who had this exact issue on the Nexus 6P. It made the phone *unusable*. The Pixel may not be quite as bad, but it's not acceptable to me.
I'm wondering if some of the other "Google Services" like all the "com.android...." app's or maybe some of the qualcomm, like com.qualcomm.fastdormancy maybe? I guess I can start trying them, but there are a lot, so if you know the key ones, it would help.
Thanks for any further info.
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Apparently this problem with Gmail is discussed here -- many have had this issue. Google should be ON THIS or they will lose customers:
https://code.google.com/p/android/i...tars Reporter Opened&groupby=&sort=&id=197805
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Ok... I just installed Maildroid Pro and didn't see the problem with it, and coincidentally also received Gmail messages at the same time... even after uninstalling Maildroid, Gmail is still now showing notifications... but perhaps the delay is just still random. Like some component of the OS happens to be loaded right now or "not dozing" and so everything is fast... but time will tell if the delay comes back.
This really needs to be fully ironed out by Google. How can they release brand new devices that don't receive timely notifications?? Isn't that something "mission critical" that you would test? This is a major error by Google -- hope they fix it fast, but some people have been waiting for a year with their Nexus devices and apparently it's still not fixed, even on 7.1.1.
Happens on my 6p too. Definitely a 7.1 issue
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ShivaSmith said:
It would be *really* interesting to know exactly which app's (the full list? you disabled battery optimization on. Could you list them all in more detail?
I just disabled it on Calendar, Gmail, Messenger and I am still getting delayed notifications in Gmail!!!
This is a *BAD* problem, Google!
I know people who had this exact issue on the Nexus 6P. It made the phone *unusable*. The Pixel may not be quite as bad, but it's not acceptable to me.
I'm wondering if some of the other "Google Services" like all the "com.android...." app's or maybe some of the qualcomm, like com.qualcomm.fastdormancy maybe? I guess I can start trying them, but there are a lot, so if you know the key ones, it would help.
Thanks for any further info.
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Apparently this problem with Gmail is discussed here -- many have had this issue. Google should be ON THIS or they will lose customers:
https://code.google.com/p/android/i...tars Reporter Opened&groupby=&sort=&id=197805
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Ok... I just installed Maildroid Pro and didn't see the problem with it, and coincidentally also received Gmail messages at the same time... even after uninstalling Maildroid, Gmail is still now showing notifications... but perhaps the delay is just still random. Like some component of the OS happens to be loaded right now or "not dozing" and so everything is fast... but time will tell if the delay comes back.
This really needs to be fully ironed out by Google. How can they release brand new devices that don't receive timely notifications?? Isn't that something "mission critical" that you would test? This is a major error by Google -- hope they fix it fast, but some people have been waiting for a year with their Nexus devices and apparently it's still not fixed, even on 7.1.1.
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Most likely an individual application problem. It's not the phone or it would affect all apps.
I get timely notifications for text, calendar, and Keep. I don't use notifications for email so cannot comment on that.
It does look like perhaps turning off the battery optimization for Gmail may have fixed this? Either that or my phone just hasn't yet had time to go into "deep doze" vs. lighter doze. I'll be watching during my 15 day potential refund period . Other than this issue, there are maybe a few minor tweaks that would be nice, but it's otherwise an amazing phone so I want to keep it!
Notifications on the Pixel phone are pure garbage IMO. Half the time I don't get one really. Either the LED light does not light up or Ambient display does nothing. Love everything about this phone except notifications. I am almost thinking about switching to the Oneplus 3T because of this...I hope Google is aware how crappy they are on this phone....
As a member pointed out, it's not the phone but something in 7.1. So no point saying u will return the phone. On my OP3 also i had delays in notification using cm14. So ya it's probably something software related and can be fixed easily.
Hmm weird that I'm not seeing this issues. If Gmail is giving your the issue use another email client?
See topic at Pixel support site:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/phone-by-google/7cgUThrhS7U
My post there:
I'm actually a Pixel (Android 7.1) owner now (never mind my user name). I've had the notification delay issue too -- mainly on Gmail. I disabled battery optimization and that seemed to have helped some during the day when I use my phone from time to time. What I noticed is that after leaving it sitting at night (tho' still plugged in) it seemed to have entered "deep doze" perhaps (tho' it's not supposed to while plugged in, if I understand that correctly). At any rate, it missed a Gmail notification in the early morning, but then after "waking up" the phone it seems to have been acting normally through the rest of the day.
I have a Galaxy S7 that I was using as a test comparison. It's on Android 6.X (Marshmallow -- also supposed to have doze) and it got an email notification no problem this morning when the Pixel failed.
Google really needs to listen to this and fix it!!! Professional business users cannot afford to miss email notifications!!!
The problem is also on 7.1.1 not just 7.1
Gmail gave me sync issues (and therefore delayed notifications) on my g4 with 6.0 once. Couldn't get it to work until I wiped the data for it.
On pixel, you also need to be sure the data saver option isn't the culprit. Either turn it off, or make Gmail an exception. That option will cause delayed notifications for nearly any app, as it won't be syncing hardly at all on mobile networks.
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Unrestricted data usage (i.e. no data saver) and background data are both set to "on" for Gmail in my Pixel (7.1)... battery optimization is also turned off.
I now believe the problem is associated with "deep doze". I appear to get Gmail notifications ok during the day, but if the phone sits idle overnight, then by the morning I will NOT receive Gmail notifications until the phone has been woken up. I actually have to manually check / refresh Gmail and then after that it appears to be "awake."
This problem is really serious -- very unprofessional to not have timely notifications in a "professional" device / OS. Android / Google teams need to escalate this. I've seen reports since way back in 2015 on Nexuses.. some people have pounded Google w/ requests for over a year and this is still not fixed yet!!!
There must be a way to fully disable "deep doze" for an app and all related services required for its operation.
This tempts me to consider delving into AOSP and cooking up a ROM which would give total control over doze and anything else needed to make the phone actually *work*.
so at the people who got problems... do you marked the app that are effected in the settings/battery opt-out for the battery improving option in standby so they can stay connect for push?
wedouglas said:
I'm shocked this isn't a widely discussed topic. It's happening non-stop. I just missed an email fro 4 hours ago and I was even using my phone several times to make calls during that time, so it wasn't even idle.
WTF is going on?
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I have delayed gmails on my xperia z3. Always have. If you want an instant message, use an instant message client. Emails are seen as something you can wait for, to save battery life. Obviously if you are also having delays on Facebook Messenger etc then you have some other problem.
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I have delayed gmails on my xperia z3. Always have. If you want an instant message, use an instant message client. Emails are seen as something you can wait for, to save battery life. Obviously if you are also having delays on Facebook Messenger etc then you have some other problem.
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That's hardly a solution. That doesn't fly in the business world, nor do I would I want companies and clients messaging me on a bunch of random instant message apps.
wedouglas said:
That's hardly a solution. That doesn't fly in the business world, nor do I would I want companies and clients messaging me on a bunch of random instant message apps.
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In the "business world" - that is, on my work pc - my emails arrive immediately. But i'm not using gmail on my phone. You probably want something a little more robust if you're going to rely on emails turning up immediately. They were never designed to be instant, or secure.

Notifications problem

I'm having some issues with notifications on this phone. It often just doesn't notify me at all!
Sometimes I go into whatsapp and there are new messages but no notification in the top bar at all. Additionally, I have 2 smart watches (a pebble one and a cheap chinese one) and these both work for showing notifications but only for about an hour after installing the app, after that, nothing until I reinstall the specific app. I have told the phone not to optimise battery for the smart watch apps but it made no difference. I've had this happen with text messages, whatsapp, gmail and ring. It seems that this phone just has a real issue with notifications! Has anyone else experianced this sort of thing?
I hope there is a fix because it's basically unusable if it doesn't even let me know when important stuff has happened (like someone at my front door for instance!!).
go to settings and type in search optiflex, you can set up to I think 10 apps that will always run in background, Im having there all IM apps and some I want to get notifications from (no need for gmail, that works always)
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I'm having some issues with notifications on this phone. It often just doesn't notify me at all!
Sometimes I go into whatsapp and there are new messages but no notification in the top bar at all. Additionally, I have 2 smart watches (a pebble one and a cheap chinese one) and these both work for showing notifications but only for about an hour after installing the app, after that, nothing until I reinstall the specific app. I have told the phone not to optimise battery for the smart watch apps but it made no difference. I've had this happen with text messages, whatsapp, gmail and ring. It seems that this phone just has a real issue with notifications! Has anyone else experianced this sort of thing?
I hope there is a fix because it's basically unusable if it doesn't even let me know when important stuff has happened (like someone at my front door for instance!!).
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I've got this problem with lesser used apps like those with live match scores.
Interesting, I've had this issue with my Note 4, budget galaxy phone (can't recall exact model), ZTE zmax 2. and ZTE Blade Spark. I assume it's just a matter of dealing with ram management. I've had a hard time finding another person with this issue.
Did any one come up with a fix for this? I suspected it was related to aggressive battery optimization, but even when the app is not optimised I'm not getting notifications through.
No problems with notifications... Optiflex disabled, all apps that you want to get notifications from must be white listed from "autostart manager" (or something like that, mine is in Spanish)
Probably phone configuration error.
No problems with notifications at all.
I do not use PowerMaster, but I use OptiFlex.
timshields said:
Did any one come up with a fix for this? I suspected it was related to aggressive battery optimization, but even when the app is not optimised I'm not getting notifications through.
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Yes, go to battery settings>powermaster>auto-start manager>allow all apps to start automatically (or select individual apps to whitelist). Also allow newly installed apps to start automatically as well.
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snakeman65 said:
I'm having some issues with notifications on this phone. It often just doesn't notify me at all!
Sometimes I go into whatsapp and there are new messages but no notification in the top bar at all. Additionally, I have 2 smart watches (a pebble one and a cheap chinese one) and these both work for showing notifications but only for about an hour after installing the app, after that, nothing until I reinstall the specific app. I have told the phone not to optimise battery for the smart watch apps but it made no difference. I've had this happen with text messages, whatsapp, gmail and ring. It seems that this phone just has a real issue with notifications! Has anyone else experianced this sort of thing?
I hope there is a fix because it's basically unusable if it doesn't even let me know when important stuff has happened (like someone at my front door for instance!!).
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Hey, I have had the ZenFone 6 for about 3 weeks and I must say that I think I wasted my money. Im having the same issues with notifications but more so with RING and WHATSAPP. I have tried all solutions that everyone has come up with and it seems as it its not 100% working. If you dont mind me asking, could it be the network that we are using? I dont want to believe that is it, but I wish I knew the reason for this cause.

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