TIP: Sticky bezel - Samsung Gear S2

The bezel on my S2 gets harder and harder to turn over time with just my thumb (or one finger) on one side, eventually getting to the point where I have to grasp it with two fingers to turn without my finger slipping on it.
This is because it gets dirty. Over time, sweat, dust, dead skin, general grime in the air, etc., works its way under the bezel.
The good news is, IP68. You can wash it. I was hesitant about this at first, because water resistance ratings are not as rigorous as we'd like to think. Further, there are issues of static water intrusion (sitting under water) vs. dynamic forced intrusion (a spray of water hitting the object).
Anyway, I've thoroughly cleaned the bezel mechanical interface several times since I got the watch without any issues. Just took the leather straps off, put the watch under running water, and gently worked the dial around, back and forth, over and over until it was moving very easily and smoothly 360.
Dry it off really well, and the dial movement is like new. Boots back up and works without issue.

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Aluminum locking case

Ran across this today searching for cases for the Epic. Anyone using one? Its interesting in that it locks the slider during normal use and hinges open if you want to use the keyboard.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_10000000_11001061&products_id=31414
Now this looks like quite a nice case for functionality.
Now if they just took off the whole part in the back for the clip and form fit the corners a bit more and offered it in more colors that'd be nice.
This may be the best thing I can do for now, I have been scouring for a jelly case to slip over the epic, since I never use the keyboard
Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
bitbang3r said:
Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
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There are videos on you tube. The bottom looks like a very snug press fit. Top must be looser to allow for the hinge to work.
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I had a similar case for my old HTC Titan. I LOVED it. Being a pretty serious phone abuser, that case kept my phone together!
-Rob
I used to have a similar case for my Treo and they are extremely well made. I irregularly dropped my phone from about 5 feet in the air onto hard linoleum and it never suffered any indignities. These come in both black and silver so if you want a different color you would want the silver so you could send it out to be powder coated.
I just ordered one.
Mine came last night.
The good: locks the slider firmly closed. No wobble or "play" at all when pressing the power button. Phone easy to remove (for GameGripper purposes).
The bad: Feels terrifyingly slippery compared to the Seidio ActiveX. Obstructs "slide down" gesture for notifications.
The seemingly fatal (a big one): my "back" fake hardkey keeps randomly going berserk... but ONLY that specific one. The foam in the top half seems to be confusing the capacitive sensor.
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Update: I've had the 'search' fake hardkey freak out a few times on me, too.
Another problem: it's definitely affecting reception. 4G and GPS barely work with the case in place.
Sigh. So close. So agonizingly close. It's awesome to not have the phone shear and jiggle apart every time I hit the power button, and the fact that it allows the phone to be easily removed for the Game Gripper without really compromising the slide-out keyboard's usability is very cool.
I'm really convinced that this case went straight from plastic prototype to mass production before anyone actually tried to use it in an area with 4G service, high humidity (presumably what's screwing up the foam and touchscreen), and who didn't just assume that the GPS was dysfunctional because Samsung sucks.
Sigh. Too expensive to throw away, and really nice in ways that ultimately don't matter because the touchscreen-button problem makes it totally unusable
The plot thickens: more touchscreen observations:
* Oddly, there's NO FOAM around the lower part of the screen where the phantom-pressed fake hardkeys are.
* Last night, it went completely berserk with phantom button presses on cue when I rubbed the latch a certain way.
This suggests that the problem's root cause might extend to the electrical conductivity of the case itself. It's strange, because I wasn't able to find reports of the same problem for users of Monaco cases for other phones (like the Droid). Lots of complaints about signal attenuation, but no reports of touchscreen problems.
I'm seriously tempted to buy some liquid electrical tape and coat the inside of the lid to see whether it helps. The problem DOES seem to go away when the lid is no longer in contact with the screen. However, if it's happening because the sensor is acting kind of like a Hall Effect sensor and the case is acting like a Faraday cage, nothing short of making the case (or at least the top lid) out of plastic is likely to fix the problem. Still, it's worth a try since I really like the case itself, and my alternative is to basically chuck it.
Update: as an experiment, I wrapped black electrical tape around the bottom lip of the top part. It helped a lot. I think I might have also found a contributing cause: cat fur. I think wisps of cat fur might be bridging the metal case & screen and carrying static electricity to the sensor. Oddly, though, some of its *worst* back-arrow spasams have occurred with the phone laying on the desk, untouched, 3 feet away.
I'm still trying to think of a good way to plastic-coat the case without making it look bad & get a nice, even black rubbery coating on it.
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How thin is it compared to the other plastic cases?
Very interested in getting the Monaco Aluminum Case, which is very similar to this one. My last concern, how thin is it compared to Seidio Innocase Surface?

Clingo Car Vent Holder

Just got myself one of these as my other car vent holder was starting to mark the bezel. Gotta say, its awesome, very easy to use, swivels in any direction, no marks left on the phone, and should be able to use it on any phone, £13.69 from ebay, there are videos on youtube.
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Fancy looking thing.
does the clinging material seem to wear after some use or if it will get some dust on it?
it might be a problem if the phone fall while driving...
still very sticky, in fact, its better now as the phone is easier to remove, its hard to unstick it for the first couple of weeks, you need to get the knack. can see a tiny bit of dust, but these will wash off. Not washed it yet and its been on every day, never fell off once, very pleased with it Will be able to use on my next phone too !
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It loses its grip as it gets dusty, worth keeping covered with original plastic film when not in use.
Easy to rinse under tap, restores it to new condition.
Can you post some links (ebay, youtube)?
Got a deskstand for more then a year
Got the same as a deskstand for more then a year, still very sticky even after cleaning (rinsing with tap water) many times.

skyrocket water damage fix

my skyrocket got dropped in water i pulled it out put it under a hair dryer and it works, kind of. i use it as my primary phone right now but sometimes it freezes and the touch sensitive keys dont work the it either a) shuts off or b) i have to take the battery out.
any idea what replacement part or parts i could possibly change to fix this?
A new phone you prolly toasted the pcb
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582881
Link to thread with link to AdamOutler video recovering from water. Take apart if you can. If left as is, you may expect further deterioration of the internal components and connections.
dac1227 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582881
Link to thread with link to AdamOutler video recovering from water. Take apart if you can. If left as is, you may expect further deterioration of the internal components and connections.
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Issue is he has been running it already
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Issue is he has been running it already
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Right. All the damage is already done. He didn't care for it properly immediately after it got wet.
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It ain't over till it's over.
I had the proverbial "Bad Day" yesterday, or rather, my poor Skyrocket did. It went from being perfect, not so much as a scuff on it to: a) Dropped onto my CEMENT driveway from a height of almost 6 feet. How is this possible, you may ask? I was leaning over the porch rail to open the recycling bin, instead of going around and down the stairs... PURE LAZINESS is what it was! Anyway, it slipped out of my top pocket, in spite of the fact that I was trying to hold it with my fore arm. Why of WHY did the Skyrocket have to be so slim and sleek! The phone hit the cement, bounced once or twice, and then slid, ON IT'S FACE about 3-4 feet, with me making that scream you do while breathing in; kind of a "Uuuoooaaarrrrggghhhh" is the best I can describe it. I followed this by grabbing the phone, taking it inside and throwing an ever loving **** fit. I proceeded to throw the phone on the couch (Even during a full blown hissy, I try to protect the damn thing!) and as I examined it, it was one of those "It could have been much worse" things, that we try to comfort ourselves with, and amazingly they do help, even if it's BS. The damage was 100% to the front black chrome bezel (around the front edge of screen) - A part that in fact CAN be replaced, but requires COMPLETE disassembly, including separating the Screen from the digitizer, which I have no clue how to do. It may NOT be possible, in fact without breaking a layer of adhesive. EVERY other part of the phone is replaceable, in modular sections, I know, and will explain in a moment.
So... bad day right... well that would had been enough since I love my phone as many folks on XDA understand, but nooooooo. I had to then drop it in 8 inches of standing water. Yep.
Was in the bottom of my above ground pool trying to restart a siphon for draining it, when, "SLIP" I %&*&#@ DID IT *@#&$% AGAIN!! *#$%&!!
Phone drops STRAIGHT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE HALF FOOT OR SO WATER IN THE POOL!!!!!!!!
Ok, so I almost NEVER keep my phone on me when doing physical work of any type. When I work on my cars engine compartment, or crawling around under it, I put my phone in the car. Even when I dry my car after pulling out of the car was the phone gets taken OUT of my top pocket and put somewhere safe. I guess I got complacent, since I hadn't had "an incident" in several years. Even with my 5" Dell Streak, beast that it was, I never let it slip from my standard place of Top shirt pocket. Every time I lean forward, my hand or forearm holds the phone from slipping. It is a motion as natural to me as shifting while driving, without even thinking about it. But even I know that "**** happens" so, lesson learned: I am going to bite the bullet and get a nice slim cover for the Skyrocket. NOW THAT IT WORKS AGAIN....
So after I pulled it out of the water I was in full panic mode: I quickly patted it in my shirt, but even while it was still wet and dripping, I RIPPED the back cover and battery out. In hindsight, I wish I had worked to dry the exterior quickly, and THEN opened it. The battery liquid detector wen bright read... CRAP! The PHONE liquid detector stayed WHITE… Ahh, finally caught a break. So after a basic dry everything I can reach (and the Sim came out wet, and the microSD came out wet, not good signs) I tried a quick power up.... The SkyICE animation began, then suddenly changed colors and turned pink/red.. WHOA.. STOP THE BOOT! So I yanked the battery.
After quite a bit of further drying, warm gentle air across the back for a venturi effect (sure!) another try and the screen behind the Samsung logo was bright, blood red, instead of black...
THIS convinced me to take the sucker apart, and for the most part I did really well. I did break ONE tab on the "body" of the phone - that holds the back section over the PCB on, but fortunately there are 7 screws, and it fit tightly when reassembling. I DID frin s coupe drops of water, though they did not seem to be in spots that would short anything, like on the stainless cover over the Qualcomm Processor, but those were just what I could see, without magnification. I dried those, blew warm gentle air over the PCB, and then gently warmed the parts over a low wattage bulb in a lamp.
I am SO impressed with the construction of this baby! I WOULD prefer more alloy, and less plastic for frame, shell & body parts, but what AMAZED me were the connections for all the ribbon cables, between modular PCB's (Like the one on the bottom with a antenna, USB port, Speaker, Mic and capacitive touch buttons, and others... The ribbon just comes around from behind, and attaches via a snap in connection to a receptacle soldered onto the corresponding PCB. In the video of the guy taking it apart, he just goes around and pops up 5 or 6 of these in about 10 seconds total time elapsing. Anyway, check out the middle section of the video I post here, right after he pulls the rear frame off... you'll see...
Bottom line? It's maybe NOT too late for the OP... Granted the more he runs it with a short or worse, the more potential damage. But in my experience it is REALLY difficult to get ALL the water out of a current design phone. It just travels from section to section, His best option (besides either trashing it or paying for repairs is doing what I did. Parts are readily available from Hong Kong, and short of the Screen/Digitizer, most are reasonably priced. Good luck with it. Get a jewelers screwdriver, and a plastic "separator" before starting. My only warning: When separating the main frames, after removing the 7 screws holding the two main frames together, use a CURVED separator, and try to bend the frame that’s the back of the phone OUTWARD a little bit. In other words, pull it OUT as well as spreading the two halves. I did not have a curved plastic tool, just a straight one, and as I pulled the two halves apart, I did not bend it out (away from an inner opening, that tabs go into from the back frame, and I snapped one of the inner openings edges. Think of it as tiny tabs that you want to pull up out of a depression before pulling the parts directly away from each other.
Aww, hell, just watch the video closely, I repeated some sections a few times before trying the procedures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf6jqYejWNU
Sorry for the lengthy post, but if I can save ONE person the pain of losing a good friend, then I think my life van finally have true meaning. Or something like that.
Why would you power it on so soon without even taking it apart to dry out?
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You see this guys pinky nail?!? Whou. I couldn't stop looking at it. I bet i can guess what its for
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should've left it off and left it in sack of rice for a day or so. RIP your phone...
Bricks don't fly or float.
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At least he didn't drop it in the water during a mini bath
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jnicks510 said:
should've left it off and left it in sack of rice for a day or so. RIP your phone...
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Yeah I was about to mention rice
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Well, I dropped my skyrocket in water a couple days ago but fished it out instantly.
Learning from past mistakes, I immediately turned it off and took the battery, sim and memory card out. After I took a paper towel and tried to dry as many cracks and openings as possible until I saw I could not get any paper towel wet. I put the phone and battery in a sealed bag filled with rice and left it for 3 days. When I took it out, the phone was covered in rice dust so I took compressed air and tried to blow it clean. Praying it worked, I put the battery in and turned it on. Miraculously it booted like nothing ever happened.
I heard online to not use a hair drier as you will blow the water into components which were initially not wet.
"I heard online to not use a hair drier as you will blow the water into components which were initially not wet."
This. Definitely avoid hairdryers. Rice is like magic. I have only dumped one phone in water (it was an iPhone 3GS on and playing a video at the time! Then I had a hellish time getting it to turn off... kept turning back on.) I popped the screen and gave it a rice bath for a couple days. It was as good as new after that. (Well, as good as any iPhone can be, anyway. )

After a little more than one week, the bezel lost a lot of its rotation resistance

After owning the Gear S2 Classic for a little over a week, I noticed yesterday that the bezel is now a lot easier to rotate then it used to. I am concerned that something is wrong or wearing out prematurely. I kinda liked the amount of resistance it had before. It is still functioning but the rotation clicks are less noticeable and it takes almost not effort to rotate the bezel, making it feel cheap compared to how it was initially. I am still under the 15 days return policies at Best Buy. I was wondering if anyone has noticed this kind of changes over time? For example I think I needed to grasp with two fingers to rotate before and now I can do it with just one.
I have the opposite problem. After owning the Gear S2 3G for several months, the bezel gets sticky after turning it a few times, like I'm tightening a screw. If I continue turning the bezel or reverse the direction, it becomes loose again. I put a few drops of 3-in-1 oil in the gap between the bezel and the watch, and it helped the problem. However, after a week it started feeling sticky again.
Dont you make it worser by putting oil in there? Dust can get everywhere. Dust and oil isnt really a good mixture.
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Dont you make it worser by putting oil in there? Dust can get everywhere. Dust and oil isnt really a good mixture.
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Not really. 3-in-1 oil is made to lubricate moving parts and clean tools/guns. The bezel turns nicely after applying a few drops of 3-in-1 oil, but it doesn't stay that way for more than a few weeks.
Another poster pointed out the Gear S2 is water resistant to level IP68. I tried cleaning it with warm water and some dish washing liquid, but I got the same result as using the 3-in-1 oil. I guess I just need to clean the watch every few weeks.
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Not really. 3-in-1 oil is made to lubricate moving parts and clean tools/guns. The bezel turns nicely after applying a few drops of 3-in-1 oil, but it doesn't stay that way for more than a few weeks.
Another poster pointed out the Gear S2 is water resistant to level IP68. I tried cleaning it with warm water and some dish washing liquid, but I got the same result as using the 3-in-1 oil. I guess I just need to clean the watch every few weeks.
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That was me
Given that we don't know anything about the materials or construction of the seals, I wouldn't put anything other than water -- which the watch it expressly designed to tolerate. 3-in-1 is great for lubricating metal bearings like door hinges; I wouldn't introduce it (or any other lubricant/solvent) into a mechanism sealed against water intrusion, where there will be rubber/silicone parts that might not tolerate the oil.
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That was me
Given that we don't know anything about the materials or construction of the seals, I wouldn't put anything other than water -- which the watch it expressly designed to tolerate. 3-in-1 is great for lubricating metal bearings like door hinges; I wouldn't introduce it (or any other lubricant/solvent) into a mechanism sealed against water intrusion, where there will be rubber/silicone parts that might not tolerate the oil.
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Good point. If the waterproof seals are made of rubber or plastic, a silicone oil should be used instead of petroleum. However, I'm just going to follow your advice and use soap and water when it gets sticky.
Zagzagel said:
Good point. If the waterproof seals are made of rubber or plastic, a silicone oil should be used instead of petroleum. However, I'm just going to follow your advice and use soap and water when it gets sticky.
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I wouldn't even use any soap either unless necessary. While soap is far less risky than an oil, if water will do the trick alone that's the best answer.
Incrementalism, my friend Use a little soap only if necessary...

A raw quick fix for loose bezels

Hi there
I've switched between smartwatches over the last 2 years and have had 3 gear s3 watches. The first two of them had pretty solid bezels, nice clicks, no wobbles or noises when tapped, I have just bought a new gear s3 and unfortunately the bezel is what I would call a little loose compared to the first two
I was going to take it back but the bezel is simply a metal bezel that sits on 4 ball bearings and a spring and it just pops off, you can actually replace the whole bezel for about 20 pounds these days
Knowing how the bezel works, reading information about other watches with bezels etc, I decided to try a bit of a hack fix before taking it back or replacing it myself
You might laugh but I looped a bit of dental floss under the bezel two times, you can't see the floss at all, you can get it in there very tight and it won't show at all. What it will do is stop your bezel from being loose, making a tapping noise and tightening up the bezel when you turn it
They use this fix on high end diving watches on some forums I read, it's also worked a treat on my gear s3, if your bezel is loose it's worth a shot
I used thin dental floss, I slid it under the bezel, then pulled it tight and looped it round the bezel, making sure it was pulled tight right into the bezel so it couldn't be seen, I kept testing the bezel to make sure it hadn't got to tight to turn as you can still remove it until you have cut the floss and tucked in the cut end with another piece of floss. Once you have fitted the floss simply cut the end and use another piece of floss to tuck in the loose end.
Mines been good for a couple of weeks but obviously the bezel is used a lot on the gear s3 so how long it lasts is something that I can't guarantee
I know that the quick fix won't be for everyone but if the bezel drives you crazy, you don't want to take the watch apart etc then this could be a handy little solution
Have a great day

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