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[Q] Google Apps Not Showing Up Under "My Apps"

On a brand new Nexus 5 the pre-installed Google apps (Hangouts, Google chrome, Google Play Services etc.) aren't showing up under the "My Apps" section of the Google play store, and therefore are not being updated. Once an app like Hangouts is updated manually it does show up.
Obviously the fix for this is relatively simple but I'm still curious what the issue is since I don't remember this happening on other Android phones i have used in the past(It seems very strange that even Google Play Services would not be auto-updated). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Q] Deactivate Google apps

Is there any negative aspects in terms of functionality if you deactivate apps like Hangouts, Movies, Wallet etc?
Does this affect the battery in any negative way? Does this create any weird wakelocks?
What are the pros in deactivating certain pre-installed apps and do they make a significant difference?

porman said:
Is there any negative aspects in terms of functionality if you deactivate apps like Hangouts, Movies, Wallet etc?
Does this affect the battery in any negative way? Does this create any weird wakelocks?
What are the pros in deactivating certain pre-installed apps and do they make a significant difference?
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Do not deactivate Fused Location and Google App.

No, I was more thinking of Google apps such as Movies, Books, Hangouts etc.

porman said:
No, I was more thinking of Google apps such as Movies, Books, Hangouts etc.
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I disable these apps:
Email
Exchange Service
Fit
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Movis & TV
Google Music
Google Play Newsstand
News & Weather
Sheets
Slides
Wallet
I haven't noticed any negative functionality.

porman said:
No, I was more thinking of Google apps such as Movies, Books, Hangouts etc.
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jss2 said:
I disable these apps:
Email
Exchange Service
Fit
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Movis & TV
Google Music
Google Play Newsstand
News & Weather
Sheets
Slides
Wallet
I haven't noticed any negative functionality.
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Actually, if you are rooted, you can delete those apps without any side effects. As I allready mention: Do not delete Fused Location (phone won't boot anymore if you delete it), Google Play Services, Google app (if you use GNL, otherwise you can, Google+ (it will break integrated Photo app, if you do), Google Calendar (no substitute app can sync with Google, if you delete it).
Without any consequnce (of course if you don't need them) you can delete: BasicDreams, Calculator, Chrome, CloudPrint, Drive, FaceLock, Gmail, Google Play, GoogleCamera, Keep, LatinImeGoogle, Maps, NewsWeather, Street, Fit, Magazines, Music, PlayGames, Movies, YouTube, Earth, Hangouts, Books, SoundSearch, Wallet, Sheets, Slides, can't remember name of Word viewer, SimTool and some other services, but for now it's better for you to don't know which ones.
Yeah. Also Google gave as some bloatware. :laugh:

Yeah, I'm not rooted, never thought it was needed on the Nexus since stock is flying anyway and I don't use apps that require root and I don't flash custom roms. That was something I did and still do on my old SGS, so on that I used to delete everything that I didn't need.
But I wasn't sure how it works on a non-rooted phone, maybe deactivating a certain app, breaks something else.
Anyway, thanks for the replies.

porman said:
Yeah, I'm not rooted, never thought it was needed on the Nexus since stock is flying anyway and I don't use apps that require root and I don't flash custom roms. That was something I did and still do on my old SGS, so on that I used to delete everything that I didn't need.
But I wasn't sure how it works on a non-rooted phone, maybe deactivating a certain app, breaks something else.
Anyway, thanks for the replies.
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Read and understand my post above: deleting or disabling - same effect on performance.

I did understand.

Google play services is vital to the phone. Nothing will work with out it. I've taken films books etc out

When you say you get rid of various unneeded Google Apps do you guys mean uninstall them or use titanium backup to freeze them?
(I'm rooted)

In my case (not rooted), just deactivating them in the app manager, but I guess the question is open to other ways as well.

porman said:
Is there any negative aspects in terms of functionality if you deactivate apps like Hangouts, Movies, Wallet etc?
Does this affect the battery in any negative way? Does this create any weird wakelocks?
What are the pros in deactivating certain pre-installed apps and do they make a significant difference?
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I took all those out. No problems. Don't touch webview or other system related products
Sent from my Nexus 5

How I managed to quit Google services cold turkey and lived to tell the tale ;)

Hey folks,
Just sharing my experience getting out of the Google services/framework
I use LineageOS(a custom firmware) with my One Plus 2 and was previously using gaaps pico(the bare minimum) which had Google Services Framework which comes with Google Play Store.
I didn't like the permissions Google Play Store was asking for(almost all permissions) although I made a new Google account and used a gamers gift card to load money onto it to pay for apps, I was just uncomfortable with the privacy policy and all the metadata Google collects.
I searched high and low and found 'Raccoon' and 'Yalp Store' as alternatives to the Google Play Store, ironically I found them using Google Search , Yalp Store is what I went with to download apps from Google Play Store without the Google Services Framework (GSF) and it has the ability to check for app Updates(Yalp Store checks and updates apps using scrapping the Google Play Store, no need for Google Services Framework), I had a choice of using the Yalp Store random account to sign-in or one of my choice. So now I don't install any Gaaps with LineageOS.
I liked the idea of updating apps via Play Store (they are vetted the most in my opinion with respect to security) I don't mind apkmirror but it requires a scrapper to check for updates(which I was too lazy to write).
There were some hiccups using Yalp Store(I signed in with the account In used to pay for apps) for apps like Greenify, that I paid for would not unlock as it required Google Services Framework to do a license check.
There are no push notifications without GSF. The private messenger 'Signal' still works but runs in the background(does not take too much of battery at all).
It's been a two weeks or more without anything Google and even droping Whatsapp. I noticed really good battery life. Had to use various apps(essentials for me) like:
Mail: Bluemail for icloud email
Music: Phonograph (Not GSF dependant)
Video: VLC (Not GSF dependant)
File manager: Solid Explorer PRO (Very cool, uses your IMEI to do a license check initially)
Oneplus Galery and Camera (ported by one of the devs) (btw if you google the OnePlus Gallery on apkmirror, the beta version works fine with the OP2)
Messaging: Signal Messenger
Calendar (com.boxer.calendar): Not GSF dependant
Browser: Firefox and Firefox Focus
Notes: Simplenote
F-Droid: to check for updates to the Yalp Store app (not GSF dependant)
Newpipe (YouTube player which can be downloaded from F-Droid) - Is awesome, can check if your favorite YouTube channels have any updates without signing in, just like the 'YouTube Checker' add-on for Firefox on desktop. Super cool floating popup to watch videos! (non GFS dependant)
Backup: Super Backup (The super backup pro is GSF dependant and cannot complete a license check) I use this app to locally backup Contacts, apps, Calendar events and Messages)
BlueMail checks my email once in a day, just like the old days when they were no smartphones and one would logon on the desktop once a day to check mail, instead of having a fight or flight response everytime a push notification is sent atleast in my case (I can manually do a refresh and check, whenever)
To be honest, it takes some getting used to, but I'm happier in the sense I dont like Google collecting data for their AI and Machine learning, my data is not that important to them and my privacy is not due to any paranoia. I just dont like the concept anymore, I have nothing to hide, it's just the 'Google Free Stuff' comes at a cost, I just watched tech news today and found that Google Chrome, is now, planning to use Machine Learning to determine if the links you click in their browser are Malware, you know what that means right, they have to get access to all the 'links' you click 'to determine' which are Malware. Most people don't get it, others don't care because they feel they have nothing to hide, but, if you really want to go free of either Google or Apple. Stock LineageOS is the best way to go (personal opinion)
Without GSF you have to set a check for notifications(for various apps) at regular intervals, not that battery intensive but counter-intuitive if you dig push notifications.
Wow, feels great to share all that lol.
Also, I found the time to update my 'removal' script to remove all the default ringtones-alarms-notificaton(.ogg file) sounds and copy just the ones I want to use to their respective folders via TWRP flashing (it also removes stuff I dont use in Lineage OS)
https://github.com/forestfirefly/lineageosscript
Have a safe and secure 2018 and please do share any super cool non GSF dependant apps that you use, thanks.
Ps:- Using the LineageOS stock Dialer and Contacts app and really diggin it!
Thanks LineageOS Dev Team for all your hard work, you guys must get that a lot but felt the need to say it
Originally posted here
Update1:
Have moved out of iCloud email and have decided to go with the eco-friendly email provider posteo.de along with the 'K-9 Email' app to fetch email.
Update2:
Am using 'Here WeGo' maps and its not bad at all.
Also switched to APKUpdater(https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-apkupdater-t3444517) as Yalp Store was sharing my device info with Google (when using my own account, I noticed it in devices)
Update3:
Decided to use Raccoon by Onyxbits to download apks on my linux machine (Mod Edit: Link removed)
It's good and has the ability to check for updates for apps downloaded
It has the ability to download apps you have paid for based on the google ID you use to log in
Changed from Yalp Store as I found Yalp Store to use the google play api to fetch apps and if any other google framework like microG was to be installed it would get the account credentials from Yalp store, also, using it with the Orbot app, made Google flag my account as a "privacy guy", they seemed to know what's going on.
Using Spotify for music (does not require GSF)
Using Simple Calendar Pro for Calendar
Using firefox as my main browser usinf Opera with VPN for anonymous browsing
Using Firefox Notes for end to end encrypted notes instead of SImplenote
Waiting for RCS (Mod Edit: Link removed) Messaging as I've completely gone off WhatsApp for good! Signal Messanger is good for now.

Same for me.

Top Apps That Require Google Services, and a Workaround for Huawei Phones

It’s no secret that Huawei’s latest flagship phones does not support Google Apps. At launch, there was a way to sideload the GMS and Google Play Services, but that was quickly taken down. That leaves us in a weird place. We have this flagship Android phone but a limited app store, the Huawei AppGallery, and no Google apps or services.
We wouldn’t really know this we use require GMS to download or to use. That doesn’t mean there aren’t work-arounds for Google’s own services or some other apps. Below are some of the 10 most popular apps and services and how we managed to get them working on the Huawei Mate 30 Pro without GMS or Google services installed.
Watch the Video Here
APK Pure
Since we don’t have Google apps, that means no Google Play Store. Going around and searching for each new app update and apk as they are released is annoying to say the least. APK Pure is an app store that essentially replaces the Google Play Store. It’s a better service to use than downloading APKs directly because it supports installing split APKs. This means apps like Spotify can be installed through APK Pure even if you can’t sideload the APK normally. It will even handle installing updates!
To install APK Pure, all you need to do is sideload the APK Pure app. Once installed, you can search for and install any apps you please. It makes for a very good replacement to the Google Play Store.
You can install APK Pure pretty easily
Download the APK linked below
Install it.
Enjoy your new App Store.
APK Pure
Telegram
Telegram is one of the apps that doesn’t require GMS at all. You can sideload it and use it normally. The only downside of not having GMS installed is the lack of location services. Many apps, including Telegram, require GMS for finding and sharing your location in an app. Telegram, being one of those apps, won’t have access to your location without GMS. This isn’t a huge deal as every other feature works perfectly. To install this app, you can install it through APK Pure or download it through APK Mirror and install the APK yourself.
Installing Telegram is actually really simple.
Open APK Pure
Search for “Telegram”
Select Telegram and hit “Install”
Enjoy your honestly amazing messaging client
Telegram on APK Pure
Gmail
Gmail is a bit of a special case. For Gmail, there is no app that will work. Other email apps like Outlook work, but Gmail doesn’t. That doesn’t stop the web version from working. You can easily just go to the Gmail website and have full access to Gmail and your email. It isn’t as great as the app, but in a situation like this, it’s the best you can get and it’s good enough for the basics.
Gmail Website
Skype
Skype is one of the older and most loved chat platforms. I’ve had it for years and it’s easy to use and honestly just great. Luckily, not having Google isn’t going to stop you from being able to speak to your friends and family on Skype. Everything in the app works perfectly fine without the need for GMS.
To install Skype, it’s simple, just use APK Pure.
Open APK Pure
Search for “Skype”
Select Skype and click “Install”
Enjoy Skyping your friends and family
WhatsApp
WhatsApp is probably one of the most popular chatting apps worldwide. There are over 1 billion people on WhatsApp. WhatsApp can’t just leave you in the dark if you don’t have Google services, so they don’t require it. That’s right, you can use WhatsApp on the Huawei Mate 30 Pro without it. It works perfectly with no features missing.
Installing is as easy as pie as well.
Open APK Pure
Search for “WhatsApp”
Select WhatsApp and install it
Enjoy messaging your friends “What’s up” on WhatsApp
Facebook
Last but not least, Facebook. Facebook doesn’t require Google Services what-so-ever. You can just sign into your account and it will work perfectly. This is because Facebook designs their apps to work on any device, no matter the services installed. All you need to do is sideload the apps and it will work perfectly.
Installing Facebook is also super easy to install
Open APK Pure
Search for “Facebook”
Select Facebook and click “install”
Facebook is now installed and works, sign in and catch up with your friends.
Facebook on APK Pure
Twitter
Twitter, like Instagram, doesn’t require any PWAs or require GMS. All you need to do is side load the app and it works! Just like Telegram, it won’t be able to find your location. This generally isn’t an issue though, you can just type in a location to find it. Installing this is just as simple as the others, all you need to do is sideload the APK and it will work.
You can easily install Twitter with a few clicks
Go to APK Pure
Search for “Twitter”
Select Twitter and click “install”
Enjoy tweeting!
Twitter on APK Pure
Instagram
Instagram is one of the most popular social media apps I’ve ever used. Luckily, it works perfectly without GMS. Unlike Telegram, every feature in the app works. All you need to do is side load the app. You can install this through APK Mirror or APK Pure.
Installing Instagram is something you can do in a snap
Go to APK Pure
Search for “Instagram”
Select Instagram
Click Install
Take and post all the selfies your heart desires
Instagram on APK Pure
LinkedIn
LinkedIn actually works really well without GMS. Everything about the app works so you can check in on your contacts really easily. The only thing that won’t work is signing in with Google, but that’s not a huge deal since you can just sign in using your email. Everything else about the app works.
Installing LinkedIn is just like installing most other apps.
Go to APK Pure
Search for “LinkedIn”
Select LinkedIn and click “Install”
Enjoy connecting with your connections
LinkedIn on APK Pure
Spotify
Spotify is one of the great apps that doesn’t require GMS what-so-ever. All you will need to do is install the APK through APK Pure. Spotify does use split APKs which means you won’t be able to sideload just once APK like many other apps. Once installed, it will function normally. You can sign in using Facebook or your Spotify account, everything works.
To install Spotify, it’s really simple.
Open the APK Pure app store
Search for “Spotify”
Select Spotify and click “Install”
Follow the prompts to install Spotify
Enjoy your music!
Spotify on APK Pure
YouTube
YouTube is by far the largest video media site on the internet. It has almost every video you would ever want to watch. It has so much and can entertain you for hours on end. Sadly, YouTube requires GMS as it is a Google app. Luckily, there are alternatives.
The first alternative is just using the YouTube website. You can go to YouTube.com on the Huawei Browser and have full access to your account. It will also allow you to sign into your account and view all your recommended videos.
The next way to get it working is using YouTube Vanced and MicroG. Luckily, neither of these apps require root. Installing is pretty simple as well.
Download the MicroG and YouTube Vanced APKs
Install both MicroG and YouTube Vanced
You can now sign into your Google account and view all your recommended videos and subscriptions
YouTube Vanced and MicroG APKs
Google Photos
Google Photos is the absolute best service Google has ever released. It allows you to store all your photos in a high quality formats. This is an amazing service, but sadly, it will crash without GMS installed. That means you won’t be able to use the Google Photos app. Instead, you can use the website. The Google Photos website allows you to view every picture you’ve taken and synced with Google Photos along with allowing you to upload photos to Google Photos.
Alternatively, you can use the Huawei Gallery app. The Huawei Gallery app allows you to sync data with Google as well. Using stock apps on your phone is always better than alternatives, so syncing with Huawei Gallery with Google data could really be your best bet.
If you aren’t into Huawei’s Gallery and want to use Google Photos, you can use the Google Photos website. It is really simple, all you need to do is sign into the mobile website through the Huawei Browser app. It has a great and easy to use UI along with the ability to upload photos.
Google Photos Website
Google Maps
Believe it or not, Google Maps is one of the few Google apps that actually works on EMUI 10 without Google apps. The full app doesn’t work, but the main and most important ones do. You are able to search for locations and navigate to the location. You can’t sign into your account or use previous locations through location history, but the main, and most important, parts of the app works.
To install Google Maps, its actually really simple.
Open the APK Pure app store
Search for “Google Maps”
Select Google Maps and click “Install”
Enjoy Google Maps!
Google Maps on APK Mirror || Google Maps on APK Pure
Look, Google services are a huge part of Android, but that doesn’t mean you need them. It’s not going to be a perfect experience using a Huawei Mate 30 Pro without Google apps, but it works and most important services you might be interested in running on the phone should work well. There will be an outlier here and there, but most of the time it will be fine.
I bought my Mate 30 Pro, the Chinese LIO-AL00 variant, before the Google app ban and I was disappointed to see it was. As I used the phone without Google apps, I realized that they are less and less necessary if you are willing to work around it. The hardware and cameras are just so good, it’s worth the trade-off of ease of use for that amazing hardware and camera.
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In fact, you can try this app :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-30/how-to/hey-gugs-app-install-gms-huawei-mate-30-t4039275

I agree, I did sideloaded GMS on my Mate 30 pro but looking into more detail I realize that 95% of the apps I use can be obtained using different app stores eliminating the need of google spy services. I believe its just a matter of time and there will be enough alternatives outside of GMS.
I find it funny that Huawei got blocked from using google but sideloading GMS is still possible. Ok, the initial link got taken down but in essence the same procedure remains and once you have GMS installed on your phone it all works normal. Updates, buying apps trough play store and even most banking apps work. It would be perfect possible for google to block our phones if they really wanted. If my phone provider can see which phone I am using without me telling them I am sure google can see this also. Its just not in their interest of really blocking our phones, maybe there are not enough of us around for them to justify taking action but then again it would be just a matter of programming software. I will root my Galaxy Note 9 to remove or "freeze" most of the google crap I don't really use but honestly I like the fact that there are android devices out there without google. If not for the (build in) stylus I would not have bought the Note 9.

Paid Apps?
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But what about the paid Google apps (like premium version of AccuBattery) or game-add ons?
I think they might not work because of no GMS:crying:
And about WhatsApp... Even live location works right?

sheehancein said:
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But what about the paid Google apps (like premium version of AccuBattery) or game-add ons?
I think they might not work because of no GMS:crying:
And about WhatsApp... Even live location works right?
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As Already confirmed in other topics by myself and others, paid google apps are working. Bought several apps on google play store on the Mate 30pro, payment passed no problem and apps all working. What I cannot confirm as I don't use this is google pay in stores, that has been confirmed not to be working.
Wattsapp live locations...explain as I don't know what you mean.

Whatsapp Live location
cfds said:
As Already confirmed in other topics by myself and others, paid google apps are working. Bought several apps on google play store on the Mate 30pro, payment passed no problem and apps all working. What I cannot confirm as I don't use this is google pay in stores, that has been confirmed not to be working.
Wattsapp live locations...explain as I don't know what you mean.
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For all of these apps (esp the paid ones) to work, I must install the GMS workaround by LzPlay first right?
What I meant by WhatsApp live location is the location sharing feature that you can use for 15 minutes/1 hour/8 hours, to share your current location to other users...
Since it seems to use Google Maps, I worry that WhatsApp works except for that one feature...:crying:

sheehancein said:
For all of these apps (esp the paid ones) to work, I must install the GMS workaround by LzPlay first right?
What I meant by WhatsApp live location is the location sharing feature that you can use for 15 minutes/1 hour/8 hours, to share your current location to other users...
Since it seems to use Google Maps, I worry that WhatsApp works except for that one feature...:crying:
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I did not try the paid google apps without GMS on my phone but it seems logic that they would not work without having GMS on it. You could install the APK file but most likely that would be than an unpaid/trail version from the app containing in app purchase and adds.
If wattsapp live is coupled to google maps than you need GMS on your phone for it to work.

I have managed to install the GMS following this Spanish method and everything has gone perfectly, all the apps that require GMS work right -> video

But notifications work for you? After I used this same method, though I don't get the Google store constant popups, I don't get any notifications for anything whatsoever anymore...

According to your method, I have successfully installed youtube

I managed to get all the GMS services working properly but google ar core still does not work

Is there bloatware?

HI,
Not sure if this the correct place to ask. However I have a Pixel 5 on order and given that this is only £100 more I was thinking i might cancel the PIxel 5.
However what I really like about the PIxels is that they have no bloatware on, facebook etc.
Can anyone say if there is much bloatware on this phone?
Cheers

This app list is from Xperia 1 ii but should be same for 5 ii. I have preorder anyway, its very easy uninstall through adb commands without root.
Amazon Prime Video
Call of Duty
Facebook
Google
Google Calendar
Google Chrome
Google Clock
Google Contacts
Google Drive
Google Device Health Services
Google Digital Wellbeing
Google Duo
Google Gboard
Google Gmail
Google Lens
Google Maps
Google Messages
Google One
Google Pay
Google Phone
Google Photos
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Podcasts
LinkedIn
Netflix
Sony Music
Sony Support
TIDAL 3 Months Free
YouTube
YouTube Music
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/hgrndx/comment/fw6cxpp

Thanks for the list. Doesn't look to bad.
What concerns me is do they have any tie up to Facebook apis like some of the new OS's
Thanks again

What about Facebook?

Ahh man, missed that....
I wonder how deeply embedded it is into the OS. I know that on Xiaomi the integration can't be removed/disabled.
On a side note I would pay extra so that I could have blank OS, similar to android one.
Satpal

ermacwins said:
What about Facebook?
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Facebook was also present, I could only disable the app.
Are there any disadvantages for disabling apps instead of uninstalling them ?

htcsnap93 said:
Facebook was also present, I could only disable the app.
Are there any disadvantages for disabling apps instead of uninstalling them ?
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They basically do the same but uninstalling will free up the space they took

There is.
Received mine yesterday and I was shocked about the preinstalled Apps.
Facebook, LinkedIn AND Call of Duty, which I couldn't delete. Don't know if I could deactivate them but I deleted those apps with adb.

The Google Apps are no Bloatware and shouldn't be removed if You want a fully functional Smartphone. Buy a Huawei if You don't want that....
So at the End. Bloatware are Apps that are not from the OEM or the Owners of Android. Facebook, Amazon, Games, Netflix. You should wonder why this is pre-installed. And out of Developer View (winkywinky) is it just funny how You think that removing of the Main Apps with ADB would mean they aren't working anymore. There is a lot of background stuff working that You can't remove or disable without Bootloader Unlock (Another thing which speaks for a Huawei if You want that). Just Saying, You are on XDA...