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I've kept my eye on the G pro 2 for a while (was about to get the original O G pro, but waited for this to come out). So I'm well aware of the specs, features, reviews, etc. But what I want to know is a real world user's opinion of the device.
Is the phone pretty decent? Any frustrations or quirks to know before trying to get one?
Key questions:
*How is the Mic/voice quality? (sending and receiving during a voice call)
*How is the battery life(I know it depends on usage and habits of the user, but just overall, how would you rate it personally, compared to other current/comparable Android phones)?
*Is it relatively stable and responsive?
*What bothers you about this phone?
*Would you buy it again if you were in the market for a new phone right now?(tells me that you like the phone and are overall happy with it)
I plan on getting a F350(a bit confused with the S/L/etc. acronym endings, can any one shed light?) I want to use it on at&t's network. On paper, and seeing professional reviews, the G pro 2 seems like my phone (1080p 5.9" screen, expandable memory via microsdhc, user replaceable battery, decent camera, etc.) But I want to know, if in practice, the phone is stable/frustration free(relatively speaking), decent real world battery life (if it's competent/comparable at least.. ), hoping that this is not one of those, "you have to root it and install a custom rom in order for this phone to be bearable"- type thing.
My other considerable is the Sony Xperia Z2 (prices are right, even though the screen is smaller and the battery isn't "replaceable"). I didn't want the Samsung Galaxy series due to the smaller screens and bloatware they put on there(note's a great series, but simlar.. bloatware, plus really expensive).
Thanks! I appreciate any input!
these are my questions too..
I came from a Samsung S3 (running CM).
first impressions were: Nice clean looks and lines, it's big (but it's not unwieldy). my wife has a Note 3 and it's about the same. the curve along the back sides makes it more comfortable to hold. Obviously, it's a heavier phone due to size, so your hand might get tired if you're one to use your phone lying down or something.
Screen is fantastic. I have no problems with colour issues with the screen and it's bright enough for me, even outdoors.
Battery life is good. standby can last more than a day. in usage, i was a bit busy yesterday and didn't use it too much, but from 0700 to 2300, i had 63% before i plugged it in. on a more typical day, I'd probably have around 40%. mainly a mixture of whatsapp, a few blogs, games and some TV show watching at lunch.
Camera is decent and acceptable auto focus speed. not a lot of bloatware.
I'm running 10e firmware due to bugs in 10f and waiting for lollipop. 10e is stable. not had problems with it.
problems: it's not widely available and the user base is small. so don't expect any fancy mods/firmwares or anything like that. as such, there's not a lot of accessories for it either outside of LG's own stuff.
My friend has the Z2 (not looked, but isn't the Z3 pricing nearly the same now?), and his camera is better and the battery life is longer due to Sony's Stamina software. display is about the same. If you want a big, stock phone, the LG is great. if you want to play around and like to customise your phone, then i'd go with the Sony.
Thanks for your input Ray-Lee .
I'm on the fence between the two phones, I like the bigger screen on the G pro 2, I haven't held one yet in person, but I don't think I"ll be bothered by it at all. Only thing that really entices me for the Z2 are the current prices for it right now.. for relatively similar specs, smaller screen, but better camera compensates. Honestly, I want the device to work well out of the box.. this is xda and I do play with custom firmwares and roms, but that's more of a result than a mission for me these days.. as in, if the unit runs better/faster/more stable compared to stock(or.. if stock is so horrendous that it must be rooted and flashed to be "decent").
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Thanks for your input Ray-Lee .
I'm on the fence between the two phones, I like the bigger screen on the G pro 2, I haven't held one yet in person, but I don't think I"ll be bothered by it at all. Only thing that really entices me for the Z2 are the current prices for it right now.. for relatively similar specs, smaller screen, but better camera compensates. Honestly, I want the device to work well out of the box.. this is xda and I do play with custom firmwares and roms, but that's more of a result than a mission for me these days.. as in, if the unit runs better/faster/more stable compared to stock(or.. if stock is so horrendous that it must be rooted and flashed to be "decent").
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Ive been using this phone pretty much since it came out (D838 rooted stock) and the stock Performance is fantastic if im honest it really doesn't need a custom rom unless you want to "mod" alot of things and even then as long as your careful theres still alot you can do with just root, i love this phone so much and its modified enough for my liking without a rom, its fine right out of the box and if you can live without a custom rom (which is really doesnt need that much) i think you'll be as happy as i am with this phone on stock with or without root.
But yes if you do like to flash and mess about alot go with the z2/note3 as there is more options there but this is still a brillant phone.
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Ive been using this phone pretty much since it came out (D838 rooted stock) and the stock Performance is fantastic if im honest it really doesn't need a custom rom unless you want to "mod" alot of things and even then as long as your careful theres still alot you can do with just root, i love this phone so much and its modified enough for my liking without a rom, its fine right out of the box and if you can live without a custom rom (which is really doesnt need that much) i think you'll be as happy as i am with this phone on stock with or without root.
But yes if you do like to flash and mess about alot go with the z2/note3 as there is more options there but this is still a brillant phone.
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Thanks a lot for the assurance. I'm still bouncing around phone options, I guess it just comes down to price (best bang for buck, with expandable memory at least). I'm still considering the G pro 2, but I saw how the GS note 3 has come down a lot in price.
Thanks again!
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Thanks a lot for the assurance. I'm still bouncing around phone options, I guess it just comes down to price (best bang for buck, with expandable memory at least). I'm still considering the G pro 2, but I saw how the GS note 3 has come down a lot in price.
Thanks again!
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I've had both and granted you can mess around with roms and stuff but for pure joy in use i much prefer the g pro 2 its a really really good phone and for the low price you really cant beat it in my opinion unless this phone gets a good recovery and cm11 ill never bother with costom roms ect. For me its perfect on stock the peformence is amazing, to date (about 6 months of owning this phone) the battery still amazes and im yet to see any lag ever!! The ui is amazing, for a phone out of the box you cant beat it if you like music it outputs brillantly im just in love so maybe im a little one sided but i hope whatever you do you will be happy! Let me know!
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I've had both and granted you can mess around with roms and stuff but for pure joy in use i much prefer the g pro 2 its a really really good phone and for the low price you really cant beat it in my opinion unless this phone gets a good recovery and cm11 ill never bother with costom roms ect. For me its perfect on stock the peformence is amazing, to date (about 6 months of owning this phone) the battery still amazes and im yet to see any lag ever!! The ui is amazing, for a phone out of the box you cant beat it if you like music it outputs brillantly im just in love so maybe im a little one sided but i hope whatever you do you will be happy! Let me know!
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I only can agree with that!
I did get mine last week and i am very happy with it! Came from Galaxy Note 2 wich i liked very much but i dont trust Super Amoled Display technology since noone grants you that it will operate more than 3 years with heavy use. I chose this device because it has similar dimensions as the Note 2, stronger hardware, bigger 1080p reliable IPS LCD screen and fabulous 3200 mAh battery.
It's a must have for phablet lovers that want to have a good performing phone with large screen.
After just a few days of use this is my opinion. On software side is everything ok, just the usual Kit Kat problem that bugs lots of users out here, tha lack of having permissions for apps to write to sd card. That was the only thing that bothered me, but thats on Google side. This phone is truly amazing!
Hope that helps the peple to choose the best device for their specific needs. I found mine definitely.
Thank you for the input bhun and derbyshire! I really like the phone and want to get it, but for me the G pro 2 shipped from Asia to the US (I need the F350 model for LTE compatibility), it's about $600, I'm going to wait out just a little longer, it's a bit out of my budget (was hoping to score a phone for less than $450.. Sony Z2 and ZU did fit that for me, but not anymore either, haha).
I'm glad to hear that it's a great phone though(G pro 2), hopefully the prices will come down a bit for the F350 model and I can obtain one soon. Thanks again to all who have contributed!
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I only can agree with that!
I did get mine last week and i am very happy with it! Came from Galaxy Note 2 wich i liked very much but i dont trust Super Amoled Display technology since noone grants you that it will operate more than 3 years with heavy use. I chose this device because it has similar dimensions as the Note 2, stronger hardware, bigger 1080p reliable IPS LCD screen and fabulous 3200 mAh battery.
It's a must have for phablet lovers that want to have a good performing phone with large screen.
After just a few days of use this is my opinion. On software side is everything ok, just the usual Kit Kat problem that bugs lots of users out here, tha lack of having permissions for apps to write to sd card. That was the only thing that bothered me, but thats on Google side. This phone is truly amazing!
Hope that helps the peple to choose the best device for their specific needs. I found mine definitely.
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The things that bother me about this phone are the poor wifi signal, I can be within a meter of my router and it still fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars. Any less than 4 bars wifi signal seems to have a noticeable impact on browsing performance. I also find the mobile data hotspot a pain, every so often the connection would hang and you would have to turn data off and back on again to get it to work. It seemed to do that every hour or so. Also if the phone gets even minutely warm, the brightness level will restrict itself to between 80% and 90%. I have had 3 LG G Pro 2 and they have all been the same. I also notice some flickering at times, especially when there is a white background on a webpage. I am almost fed up of mine and looking at selling it soon. It does have the potential to be a good phone, and I think all the faults I mentioned could be fixed with a decent firmware update.
I agree with you on wifi reception, its been the worst amongst all the phones i have owned
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Good Buy
It's a good buy switching. Switched from GS5 to this
Now asking that question here is not the right place to ask since.. Well.. Most people already purchased the device. It is however, the best place to ask about the Z3 since, well.. Most people purchased the device.
At this point i started out on Android with the HTC desire z, then the original Galaxy Note, LG G1, and have now paid off my Galaxy Note 2. Looking for a new phone I found that my needs is somewhat fulfilled with the Z3, although it is hard to tell, without actually owning and using the device as my daily usage.
I was thinking off continuing along the Samsung Note series with the 4, but the screen is to big, and I am honestly a bit tired of having a hard time reaching the far side of my phone. Battery is my main concern actually. I got rid of the LG G1,due to not being able to accept the uptime ratio and I see the the Z3 contains a 3100 mAh battery like my Note 2, and that Sony promises 2 days on 1 charge, but to be honest I don't really believe in such a promise. Hell, I could squeeze 5 days our my battery if I really tried, but the thing is that I actually use my phone.
So is it a decent battery that actually delivers in the Z3?
Also. The camera. That has really got me going as I use my camera a lot, and must admit that lenses and cameras is done really well by Sony.
But is the camera really noticeable better than say a 13 MP camera?
And last but not least. I flash custom Roms. Not as much as I used to, but I would choose a custom bleeding edge Rom over some stock firmware waiting for updates with 3 GB bloatware.
I heard something about locked bootloaders and Sony on general not being a good choice if you want to flash anything, and yet I saw something a few weeks ago where Sony released official video guides on unlocking your Xperia phone.
So which is it?
Has the Z3 been pried open to gain root access and flash custom roms?
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should i take that as a no.
Ok I'll bite.
You'll get anywhere from 6-10hrs of screen on time on a Z3. Factors will be how many apps you use and what types of apps those are, obviously something like a processor and graphics intensive game will chew up the battery far quicker than the gmail app. With realistic, moderate use 3-4 SOT per day, you really can get 2 days battery life.
Some people love the camera and some people hate it. It's a bit slower to respond and in the Auto mode it will spit out a down sampled 8MP file FYI. If a little thought is put into taking a pic, it can produce some excellent results.
ROM support is pretty bad right now, but then again Sony's UI is pretty light
Hope this helps.
I would say it's worth it... and I get mine tomorrow. Honestly, I've had my share of devices, but I keep going back to Sony.
1) The UI is nice, pretty light (as mentioned by se1000) and it does mostly what I want. Nova usually winds up on the device at some point if I want the AOSP look.
2) Sony is good with warranty repairs etc... I know from experience from getting work done on my Xperia T years ago. Took some time as I bought it from the UK and used it in the states, but they didn't balk at repairs and I sent the thing in unlocked and rooted.
3) Build quality feels better to me than any other device I've handled. I am coming from an LG G3
4) They are community friendly. Sure, they may not RUSH to put out Lolli, but they are head and shoulders above others (I've mentioned Oppo... I used to have a find5). They also have, basically, Sony XDA reps as I see them, and I think they work with the FXP team on stuff?
5) Small updates are frequent. Not KK to Lolli, but updates in the same build. I think there have been 5 or
6 on the Z1c I had... you know they're paying attention.
Now, you'll find a decent amount of posts expressing issues with the device. Hell, you'll find the same for any device. The way I see it, usually people make noise when something isn't working, and rarely when things are all hunky dory. Therefore, you will always have a disproportionate level of experiences, in favor of those with issues. I am not going to say the issues are excusable, or that they don't exist, but I tend to think that generally most devices are better than their XDA threads might indicate.
Just my .02
I would also say: yes, it is worth it.
I come from a Galaxy S5 and I don't miss it at all.
I own the Z3 only for a week now, but normaly after 2 or 3 days I'm "not so much in love" anymore with the device but I am still in love with the Z3.
I tested much devices like the One M8, the LG G2, the LG G3, the Z2, the N5, the S5 and finally the Z3.
All in all it is the best device in my eyes. Its design is great, it's very comfortable to use (also in one hand), it's fast and the battery life is insane.
I only have to charge it every 2 days and I get a SOT of 7h +.
Please, Z3 faithful owners, can I have your opinions? Am I crazy to be looking at buying a Z3 at this late stage? Is the battery still good on latest Android? Some reviews talk of screens that break all buy themselves - is this a real risk? Should I care that Sony may stop making mobiles?
Why Z3? Well Z3+ seems to have worse battery. Z5 costs 50% more and not sure I need it.
I'm buying in UK SIM free. It's for business use: email, web, documents. Battery life is important, and I prefer no software bloat. Won't play games or watch movies (maybe a quick how-to on YouTube, that's it). Occasional camera, prefer idiot-proof. I'd like to keep using the phone for 3-4 years.
I do plan to root, with some hope of claiming under guarantee in case of hardware failure. I've done my best to scan these forums but please bear in mind I am totally new to Sony phones and there is a lot of info. It looks good so far - any gotchas I should know about? I see there are Marshmallow ROMs - are these safe/recommended for general use? And available for root locked bootloader? I didn't find a Xposed thread - does it work OK?
Many thanks.
I was in the same dilemma two months ago and i went for the z3. z3+ not worth it and z5 is more expensive and i'm not quite sure it's worth it. We have a z5 here at the office and i compared it with my z3. On the latest firmware both of them, it's true that z5 was a little snappier but not by much, tho when under heavy stress it will heat up...
Battery is very good for me. I usually use my phone 2 hours per day, on screen time and listen to music some 3 hours. Data always on and some bad reception where i work... I get home at 7 pm with ~50%. I say that's awsome. The camera is identical to z5, i don't see any difference. If there is, it's probably so small you won't even see it, at least not on the level that I expect mobile phone cameras to be.
Root is available, as well as xposed fwk. Everything works ok on the latest 5.1.1. MM ROMs are only for unlockedBL for now but we are soon expecting oficial MM. Anyway those MM based on CM are worse on battery and not working fully.
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Yeah I have the same dilemma, but I consider between xperia z3 and nexus 5x. Do you know something about Sony plans about android N for xperia 3? What do you think will it get next android? Cause nexus 5x for sure. Thx.
I recently "downgraded" from an Xperia Z5 to a Z3 and I don't regret my decision one little bit.
More ROMs to choose from, root easily achievable by first flashing 4.4.4 and then flashing a pre-rooted .ftf.
Battery life is like night and day. I was ending the day on my Z5 with 5-10% battery. With my Z3 and a custom ROM, I'm ending the day with upwards of 50%.
Also, the Z3, to me, feels more premium and better built than the Z5.
If you can find one for £200 or thereabouts, grab it. It's a bargain.
Get one. But don't do what I did, I bought a unit from a guy who got a "new" replacement from his insurance company, the screen ripples when I touch it and I have pressure marks (the screen is genuine, however). The phone isn't waterproof either. Do you reckon I could send it to Sony and get it repaired? Maybe Sony repaired it.
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I was going to pull the trigger and get the Z3 but now they are not releasing the Android Nougat for it, this worries me because it could even be the last Update for it.
What do you guys think?
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I was going to pull the trigger and get the Z3 but now they are not releasing the Android Nougat for it, this worries me because it could even be the last Update for it.
What do you guys think?
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It depends on whether you unlock the bootloaders of your phones or not ( and install custom roms )
For example I use as a secondary a sony xperia L and the last update it received if i am not mistaken was 4.4.4
This is it right now
I still love my z3 in terms of design and it's still doing things smoothly. So far Android 6 has been doing quite well in my z3, though i really hope there is Nougat... The only thing I really cannot take z3 for is the camera quality...
Did you read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/thinking-buying-input-t3530865 ?
Depends on the price imo. If you get it "dirt cheap", then yes, it is still a great phone with, again just my opinion a great camera. I ran the Nougat DP on it flawlessly but reverted back to Concept wich is just fantastic.
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I occasionally keep looking to see what new phones get my interest, and I keep finding myself thinking that if my phone broke today, I'd probably just buy another Z3. I like the fact I can put it on a horizontal mag charge dock (I have it at work like this, and at home). The new one only does portrait docking now which just isn't as good (eg watching videos, looking at pictures). I don't understand why they dropped it. And I can't understand why I can't see any other android phones that have this.
And I really like the lightness of the Sony Android - and xperia home is a really good launcher. I have nova prime, but I ended up uninstalling it.
Don't .
MSM8974 is deprecated for like 1 year now and will not receive official update anymore, customs roms are not really ready.
If you have choice don't and look at something else.
Also I highly recommend you to not buy Sony again until the dev team release something good for the camera.
Stock rom are updated for like ~1 year maybe two, after your device is a giant flaw on stock roms and customs roms can't really be good ATM.
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Edit: I carry it in my right pocket, and seeing it got bent in such a short time upsets me. When you save up to get a phone for months and it is your first ever flagship device, you try to treat it like it is the most fragile thing you own. (note: except those times when i washed it, it was irresponsible, i know >-<)
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones. Edit: It seems like this is a problem because of the HK firmware. I wasn't aware other regions was getting updates a week after Googles own phones. Seeing Xperia X series already having the updates was a bit frustrating.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
Edit: Xperia P gets 3 bars and My laptop gets 5 bars where Xperia XZ almost has no reception and has drops.
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they have bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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U r not alone dude?
cizkek_ said:
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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I am using the phone for almost 5 months and:
1. no bent, phone is flat without scratches ...
2. true .. but i dont miss it
3. again true ... camera is not the best
4. no problem here .. i carry the phone too in my pocket and without any protection
5. quite the opposite ... it is almost the first phone with 7.1.1 android, except google phones
6. if you want custom roms on your phone why did you buy xperia in the first place? ... there are nexus and pixel phones with almost no restrictions
7. WiFi range is fine here ... but yes there are phones with better range.
So in a one sentence i really like this phone, and i am looking forward to XZ premium later this summer.
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Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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1. Your fault
2. Why did you buy this phone if you need RAW support?
3. It's really not that bad after a 7.1.1. update, but sure, it's there more in Sony than other brands, as it was for ages now, it's common knowledge at this point. So if you needed the best in the market camera on the smartphone, you bought the wrong device. There were tons of reviews when the phone was released, didn't you come across this point anywhere ever?
4. Bending the phone shouldn't have any effect on the headphone jack, it doesn't really matter, when you take the phone apart you can see why it shouldn't be related. Something else wrong with it, maybe dirt? Mine is fine, I use both stock Sony earphones and my AKG K52 with the phone, both work great.
5. Very untrue, maybe keep track of Sony updates better? Apart from Nexus, the first one to get 7.1.1, the same will probably be for the next update. The same was with 6.0.1. for my ex Z3, so yeah, Sony has been pretty quick and reliable in terms of SW updates.
6. Pretty normal there still isn't that much development or interest for this unit, plus it's not that popular in the first place, so not a lot of people buy and develop for it, same goes for Sony in general. That being sad, Since the M4 Aqua and Z3 and now with XZ, I've stopped rooting my phones because to me there just isn't need to. With older HTCs and Samsungs, you really had to because the software and UI were pretty much crap on any brand. Apart from Pixels, Sony's is the cleanest and lightest out there.
7. For the last five years, I haven't noticed an upgrade or a downgrade in my WiFi range on any smartphones I use, it just works and it's fine. So, can't really comment on that, it works, I dunno...
One thing I did notice with Sony devices compared to other brands I used, a lot of times you'll se one bar or no bars at all, but you still have good signal and speed, it doesn't actually loose it, same goes for network signal. So I've learned not to pay much attention to the bars and indicators, just see how it actually works. Two rooms away from my router I barelly get one bar on WiFi and I still get 20Mbps out of max 50, so yeah...As long as it works, I don't care about the bars.
Seems to me you bought a wrong device for you and your needs and expectations. Sell it while it's still worth something and grab an S7 or something, I dunno. It has a better camera and you can flash tons of custom roms on it if you like.
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Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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1) bent? What do you do with your phone? D:
2) If you use aosp, you have raw. Sony Block that. But no problem. The image processing is not heavy like Samsung, huawei, LG ecc. So the images in editing are a lot editable than others.
3) Not really a problem. Other brand do very worst. It's one of best camera there. No doubt about it.
4)your problem. Not mine or the other.
5) do you really buy a xz or a clone? Is one of the first phone Who recive Android 7.1.1 after Google phones.
6) is in project, but for now is really necessary?We have a really stable phone with latest updates... Buy a Google phone to have those rom always.
7) not real a problem. Some new phone do worst than xz.
I'm really happy to buy this phone and every day gave me satfactions. Great performance, battery, and amazing camera.
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Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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I agree that its not such a good phone.
Point 1: my phone is also bent, and its not because of my pocket force for sure.
Point 3: agree
Point 5: strongly disagree, my brother has a Pixel and my phone is right up there following it with updates and security patched every month (usually not more than 10-20 days behind). Cant complain about the speed of updates; though they didn't improve the phone or fix any of the problems by doing them.
In conclusion; highly regretting buying this phone.
I come from S6 to XZ, this is my first xperia device.
You say XZ software is so bad, TRUE !!! As bad as galexy devices are bad...
More 7.1.x features lost in xperia XZ update like Night light. We got secure update end of the month (we get fw 199 with april secure patch 25th april, after one week google release next secure patch!)
No new features or improvement at any updates. (call logs lag, battery drain, etc) only secure patch and not more.
If you want real smooth experience, fast update, more secure device, good third-party development, buy a pixel (or xl if you like phablet). Samsung as bad as sony at third-party support! We talk about development not cooking ROM! Very easy to de-odex,de-bloat,de-knox, adding some mode you can find inside web and xda, change the build.id inside build.prop and call that "New Custom ROM"... That is not really third-party development, just call it moding and cocking rom.
cizkek_ said:
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Reason 2: No raw support.
Reason 3: Too much sharpening in the camera and no way to turn it off.
Reason 4: Headphone jack behaves funny ( probably because the phone got bent. I carry it in my right pocket how the hell did it got bent that easily :'( )
Reason 5: Android updates are way behind older phones.
Reason 6: No CM (or lineage) (or not enough development?)
Reason 7: Wi-Fi range is way, way, way worse then my old Xperia P. Seriously? (Same modem, same frequency band)
There might be an eight reason but cant remember anything else. Does anyone else feel sad because they ahev bought this phone?
Edit: I think I have mis-tapped on the wrong section to submit this thread.
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1. your fault and yes aluminium bent easier.
2. yes it can, sony just disabled it, (enabled in aosp)
3. working on it on aosp and lineage.
4. my jack is working perfectly.
5. they are the first major company (before LG, Samsung, and all big ones) to port 7.1.1
6. on the way, the zip is building Right now
7. my wifi range is correct even throught a reinforced armed concrete piece ( it block much radio data but i can watch 1080p60 videos nicely.
diri said:
I am using the phone for almost 5 months and:
1. no bent, phone is flat without scratches ...
2. true .. but i dont miss it
3. again true ... camera is not the best
4. no problem here .. i carry the phone too in my pocket and without any protection
5. quite the opposite ... it is almost the first phone with 7.1.1 android, except google phones
6. if you want custom roms on your phone why did you buy xperia in the first place? ... there are nexus and pixel phones with almost no restrictions
7. WiFi range is fine here ... but yes there are phones with better range.
So in a one sentence i really like this phone, and i am looking forward to XZ premium later this summer.
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Sadly pixel phones were not available in where i live, at least at a reasonable price. You would do the same if you were on a limited budget and after the best you could afford. (My other option was Htc m10)
You really should have gone with the HTC 10 if you had the option.
Unfortunately my carrier in the UK did not stock the 10 so with limited options and a "time to try something different approach", I went with the XZ.
The XZ is just OK in my view and a minor upgrade compared to my 3 Year old HTC M8 which I had previously. The only tangible improvements being a slightly larger screen and a fingerprint sensor.
- The processer may be a recent gen snapdragon 820 but it does not feel any better in day to day usage than the M8. I am actually surprised how laggy it can feel sometimes for what was a 2016 Flagship phone.
- The camera might be a higher resolution but the picture quality is dreadful
- Continual drop-outs when connecting my iPad via the Sony Hotspot which can only be resolved by restarting the phone
- Way too much Sony bloat ware, all of which can't be disabled or removed
- The Android overlay is not as good as HTCs with some features which I really miss in day to day use
- Limited availability of genuinely good accessories because I assume the phone has not selling well .... cases and properly fitting tempered glass protectors which don't make the phone look rubbish.
Based on my experience, this will be my first and last Sony phone.
owens2000 said:
You really should have gone with the HTC 10 if you had the option.
Unfortunately my carrier in the UK did not stock the 10 so with limited options and a "time to try something different approach", I went with the XZ.
The XZ is just OK in my view and a minor upgrade compared to my 3 Year old HTC M8 which I had previously. The only tangible improvements being a slightly larger screen and a fingerprint sensor.
- The processer may be a recent gen snapdragon 820 but it does not feel any better in day to day usage than the M8. I am actually surprised how laggy it can feel sometimes for what was a 2016 Flagship phone.
- The camera might be a higher resolution but the picture quality is dreadful
- Continual drop-outs when connecting my iPad via the Sony Hotspot which can only be resolved by restarting the phone
- Way too much Sony bloat ware, all of which can't be disabled or removed
- The Android overlay is not as good as HTCs with some features which I really miss in day to day use
- Limited availability of genuinely good accessories because I assume the phone has not selling well .... cases and properly fitting tempered glass protectors which don't make the phone look rubbish.
Based on my experience, this will be my first and last Sony phone.
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Try searching Devilcase for tempered glass, expensive but reliable.
Ragarding bloatware, in my z5 I was able to uninstall most of them, but I don't understand why sony don't let us uninstall them . Not even a single app such as games.
I mean Sony trying to force us to play these games or what?
I would have gone for htc 10, but it was chunky and not as pleasing as sony in design perspective.
Yes it's sad. I'm back to xperia from lg G4. Before I had xperia x8, Ray, M(was mistake), Z1, and after G4 back to XZ. Each phone have bugs and problems. In XZ I see few. Phone it's too sensitive I mean frame. Camera it's worst than G4 speakers are quite. Maybe root for locked phones gives moore lives for it.
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cizkek_ said:
Reason 1: Phone is slightly bent.
Edit: I carry it in my right pocket, and seeing it got bent in such a short time upsets me. When you save up to get a phone for months and it is your first ever flagship device, you try to treat it like it is the most fragile thing you own. (note: except those times when i washed it, it was irresponsible, i know >-<)
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Hey -- I don't mean to sound rude, but how could you bend the phone? The entire front of the device is glass ... and glass doesn't bend!
If you're still within your initial warranty period, i would suggest taking the device back to where you purchased it, nicely explain some of your technical concerns and ask for a replacement. It shouldn't be an issue, but if it is, contact Sony. You will probably be given a refurbished device, but if there is genuinely something wrong, you may be better off. Good luck -- it is a terrific phone, btw.
NYCblues said:
Hey -- I don't mean to sound rude, but how could you bend the phone? The entire front of the device is glass ... and glass doesn't bend!
If you're still within your initial warranty period, i would suggest taking the device back to where you purchased it, nicely explain some of your technical concerns and ask for a replacement. It shouldn't be an issue, but if it is, contact Sony. You will probably be given a refurbished device, but if there is genuinely something wrong, you may be better off. Good luck -- it is a terrific phone, btw.
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Phone does not sit well on a flat surface, its bent from corner to corner.
Thank you for your advice. I live in Mid East and bought the phone on a trip to HK (from Fortress). I dont know if a refurbished device could be trusted. Do you have any past experiences with Sony?
cizkek_ said:
Phone does not sit well on a flat surface, its bent from corner to corner.
Thank you for your advice. I live in Mid East and bought the phone on a trip to HK (from Fortress). I dont know if a refurbished device could be trusted. Do you have any past experiences with Sony?
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SO sorry for the delay ... I don't check in here as often as i should (probably).
I've had great experiences with Sony. I've always been very happy with the way they handle returns/refunds and fixing anything even remotely wrong with any of their products. Honestly, I don't have a bad thing to say about Sony.
1 month with my XZ, awesome device.
Coming from a Xperia Z2 must say that WiFi range is worse, can live with that. I tend to be very careful with my phones, after one month I have little scratches on my screen, never happen with my Z2 in the same amount of time (bot phones naked, later put a frame case on z2 but at first was naked). Weird thing, I thought glass protection of z2 (advertised as shatter proof glass) was inferior to xz (gorilla glass)