Auto pulse measurement - Samsung Gear S2

Greetings,
I have set my Gear S2 to auto check my pulse every 10 Minutes. But sometimes it doesnt check for my pulse for 2 - 3 hours...
Is it dependent on something like if I move or something? Or is it a bug in the firmware?
Greetings
Robin

I know that if the watch doesn't get a good read on your pulse (too much movement, not sitting on wrist right, etc) it won't record the heart rate. At night while sleeping, I'll get pretty consistent readings for an hour or two, and then there will be like a 6hr gap. And on numerous occasions, I'll feel the watch vibrate slightly with no notifications or anything going off. I assume it's just error ed out on the read, and will try again later (or at the next scheduled interval)

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Accellerometer Sleep App Showdown

Hello all,
There appears to be a few accelerometer based sleep apps that track your sleep cycles available. I always have issues waking up so the ability that these programs have to wake you up when you are in the "lightest phase" of sleep has been truly godsend. I have not been late to work once since I began using it (usually at least 3 days a week I'm late. It is truly life changing so far for me. But id like some feedback if there are other apps out there. or what personal experiences are. Id also like to know what most of you have for your "deep sleep ratio" to see how I stack up.
Sleep as Android - I am about 5 days from the trial version expiration of "Sleep as Android". So far I love the program and am highly considering purchasing it when the trial is up. I love that it can determine the best time to wake me up, and I have a nice graph of my movements through the night, another feature I like is that it record my noise. I have found that In the beginning I was a loud snorer it has apparently gone down by utilizing an eye mask that puts pressure on my nose as well. Just about everyday my % of deep sleep is falling into the 45-49% range with one bad night being 23%.
Sleep timer - I will be trying this program this weekend once my trial version of sleep as android is up. I want to test it over the weekend so I dont miss work or anything. will update my experience
Anyone have experience with other programs or the ones I mentioned?
Electric Sleep - Not tried yet
Smart Alarm Clock -Not tried yet
Gentle Alarm -Not tried yet
Suffering fron DSPS and Non24-h sleep/wake syndrome so it's crucial for me to monitor my sleep. Up to a year ago I was using SleepSense for WP6 when I reverted to Sleep as Android and was amazed by the features.
However recently I discovered Sleep Time which works in a similar way but is way more simple. Just enter the time, the offset, a couple of settings and you're good to go. Plus, the shake-to-snooze feature is awesome. I couldn't decide which one to use so I'm using them both on my two devices lol.
Sleep as android Trial ran out. I have been using sleep time I will post my thoughts on it below.
I like the charts given by sleep time a little more and it attempts to break your sleep into 3 segments (wake, light sleep, deep sleep). regarding the statistics, I am in the same range of sleep efficiency that I was with android so whether it is accurate or not remains to be seen but it is at least consistent. Another thing I can not vouch for on Sleep as android but the "algorithm" claim suggested by sleep time I believe is BS.
Theory, the app measures your movement throughout the night you set an alarm that is the "absolute latest" you can wake up. Then you tell the app either 10/20/30 minutes before the alarm you are willing for it to begin going off. Ideally the app monitors your sleep and as you come out of your deep sleep or in a light sleep phase the alarm is supposed to begin going off. This app is steadfast on ticking to the rules, you say 10 minutes with an alarm of 7 its gonna wake you at 650 everyday whether your in deep sleep or not. I notice my wakes are not as "refreshed" as SAAD was.
Bottom line, I like seeing the graph on this and it is very light on the options, but you cant expect much for free. Personally though, until they fix their setup and stop claiming it is an algorithm waking you up, I could just as easily just set my alarm to wake me up 10 minutes sooner.
Will begin trying another app over the weekend.
I haven't heard of these type programs, but now I'm intrigued (thanks for bringing them up in the forum).
As I understand, we have to allocate a window of time when the alarm might go off. So if I need to get up 5:00 absolute latest, the window might be 4:30 to 5:00.
a few questions:
1 - is 30 minutes a big enough window to make any difference?
2 - is this any better than just setting tradiaional alarm for 4:30 and hitting snooze until you're ready to get out of bed (or until it's 5:00, whichever comes first).
3 -you have to keep the phone in bed with you? How do you avoid rolling over on it?
electricpete1 said:
As I understand, we have to allocate a window of time when the alarm might go off. So if I need to get up 5:00 absolute latest, the window might be 4:30 to 5:00.
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Yup.
electricpete1 said:
1 - is 30 minutes a big enough window to make any difference?
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Short answer, yes. Provided that the app actually works as intended and does not just hit the alarm at the earliest time possible!
Long answer, this has to do with the duration of the sleep cycles, which last about 60 to 90 minutes on average, depending on the person. Those cycles consist of five sleep stages, stage 1, stage 2 (light sleep), stage 3 and 4 (deep sleep) and stage 5 (or REM). In general your sleep goes like this: [stage 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] - [2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] - [2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] etc.
The important thing is that during stage 2 and REM its easier to wake up, and both those stages last more than the rest, taking up to 65-75% of the whole sleep cycle. So, 30 minutes should be an ideal offset. No matter what time you set the alarm, it's almost certain that 30 minutes before that you will eventually enter light sleep or REM sleep.
That's how these kind of apps work, they're supposed to detect the sleep stage you're on using the accelerometer (based on any movements) and wake you up only during "light" sleep.
electricpete1 said:
2 - is this any better than just setting tradiaional alarm for 4:30 and hitting snooze until you're ready to get out of bed (or until it's 5:00, whichever comes first).
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Theoretically, it is. If you just set the alarm earlier and it rings while you're in deep sleep, it could be a lot harder to wake up plus you will probably still feel tired and drowsy, possibly for the rest of the day. If, however, the alarm rings while you're in light sleep or REM sleep, it will be easier for you to wake up and you will definitely feel more refreshed.
I've woken up during deep sleep after 8:30 hours and felt awful for the rest of the day. I've woken up during light sleep after just three hours of sleep and had enough energy to pull an all-nigher the next night. It all comes down to general sleep hygiene of course but the actual sleep stage on which you wake up can and will have an effect on the quality of your sleep.
electricpete1 said:
3 -you have to keep the phone in bed with you? How do you avoid rolling over on it?
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I usually keep it right next to my pillow (flight mode on), in it's case and connected to the charger.

Initial impression - good potential, poor execution

I may have a lemon S2 Classic. 24 hours in and there are 3 relatively bad issues:
- Pedometer step counter does not work AT ALL. Wore watch all day and it shows I took *zero* steps.
- Heartbeat measuring is a major fail. Click the icon, and the resulting curve is erratic & all over the place. Never even locks on a heart rate and eventually gets to a "try again" button every single time.
- I have display set to always on. After a few seconds, it reverts to a plain black display with clock hands only. No other features. I can live with that, but wait a few minutes more and the screen goes completely black until I touch it or shake it to wake it back up.
I'm hoping someone can point out tips that mean some of this stuff is just user error, but I've spent a ton of time combing the settings both inside the watch as well as inside the phone app. HTC One M9, by the way, and the BT paired without a problem. Thinking Best Buy is about to get a watch returned! Thoughts on what I'm missing?
Sounds like you have a bad unit. My steps have been as accurate as any other wearable I've used. The heart rate monitor is excellent (you need to wear it snug though)... I can't comment on the ambient display as I don't use it
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I think You should return it - the problems You mentioned don't occur on my S2c.
The pedometer is not perfect, at least not before You make more than ~10 steps. If less, the smartwatch is not recording it (as far as I read, it suppose to work like that, cause devs implemented it to be 'eco-energy' and not start recording with every move). But in daily use it works fine for me.
Heartbeat sensor should record fine, maybe the grip on the belt is to loose? Try to make some activity with sHealth and observe if the sensor records anything.
About display - if You choose from settings 'always on' it WILL show only plain black display with clock hands. That's how it suppose to work If You are interested in having the face always turned on then look in the Store for 'I am Alive' app.

New on android wear - is a little difficult

Hi,
since yesterday i have a HW2. Usaly im a wearable user like miband, garmin, Fitbit...and brand new in the android wear universe.
- there are no "nightmode" ?? Do not disturb and shut down your Display between 10pm and 6am setup?
- there a no sleep tracking per default? I try sleep as android. But that lights the display all the night with "Sleeptracking" - and in the morning there are not data
- no altimeter, no barometer per default? (see it on the S3 frontier per default)
A lot of questions and not enough answers
Hexxer said:
Hi,
since yesterday i have a HW2. Usaly im a wearable user like miband, garmin, Fitbit...and brand new in the android wear universe.
- there are no "nightmode" ?? Do not disturb and shut down your Display between 10pm and 6am setup?
- there a no sleep tracking per default? I try sleep as android. But that lights the display all the night with "Sleeptracking" - and in the morning there are not data
- no altimeter, no barometer per default? (see it on the S3 frontier per default)
A lot of questions and not enough answers
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On the clock screen pull down a little shortcut menu that contains airplane mode, sound, theater mode (turns the display black until you press the power button), do not disturb, settings.
There are no sleep tracking. There is though a app called "sleep as android" you can download as you mentioned.
Barometer and altimeter can be showed in some watch faces
Thanks. Today was the second night that sleep as android crashes after 4 minutes on my OP3
Yesterday i had to charge the HW2 2 times - that a but to much. Have to optimize that thing.
Today i try it at my desk. Sleep as android crash after 3-6 minutes on my handy. Dont no why. This log-logger from the faq dosent make a file. Very anoining.
Heart Rate sensor while a bike round. Im not sporty. If my wrist is wet....i get ~70Bpm. If i try that it shows me like i feel. 140Bpm and more. Go ahead and my wrist is wet again....plays start from the begining.
The first 10 Minuites are NOTHING...till the time i dry my wrist.
Today after 11 hours I had only 15% left of the watch. But it was down to 40% before I did a 20 min run with endomondo on the watch and listening to music with bluetooth headphones while running. I also hade a sim card in the watch and the display set to always on. So it was heavy usage. But I did not run for long time..
Air pressure/Barometersensor look not calibratet or whatever. Here we are at 1022hpa, whatch show 1009. Yesterday 1020hps - watch show 1009hpa

Hands fully bright in AOD mode possible?

Hi all
Is there any way to even custom make a face with the watchmaker or the galaxy watch designer but keeping the hour and minutes hands fully bright as in full brightness when in AOD mode?
You see I just want to be able to check time on my motorbike when driving with a glance in fully sunny day and not looking for a shady place on the street:laugh:
Thanks
pamarakos said:
Hi all
Is there any way to even custom make a face with the watchmaker or the galaxy watch designer but keeping the hour and minutes hands fully bright as in full brightness when in AOD mode?
You see I just want to be able to check time on my motorbike when driving with a glance in fully sunny day and not looking for a shady place on the street:laugh:
Thanks
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I think you can't control the brightness decreasing when the watch switches to AOD mode. I remember in Watchmaker there was a option to tune the brightness in AOD mode but it was never as bright as in normal mode.
What could help you is this app: Flaunt
It will keep your display on for 30 minutes but at a cost of battery life
clonednull said:
What could help you is this app: Flaunt
It will keep your display on for 30 minutes but at a cost of battery life
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I will have to try that! In the meantime, I think I've exploited a bug/glitch on my Galaxy Watch 3. I can't show it in a photo because of auto light adjustments, but it looks at least 1.5-2X as bright as the dim limitation.
I set my brightness to 5, with auto brightness on and screen timeout at 5 minutes - seems to consumer about 1% extra battery per hour.
1) In WatchMaker, set screen timeout to default, and 70% OPR in bright mode (15% is all you can do in dim mode)
2) With Tasker on your phone, set up an event triggered by time (i.e. 8AM - 11PM) that repeats every 5 minutes
3) Use the WatchMaker plugin to send that same face to your watch.
It may take a cycle or two to sync up, but what it does is tricks or freezes the watchface in something substantially brighter than the 15% OPR, I'd assume maybe 70% of whatever it is in brightness.
The hour and minute hand still update every minute. In fact, you will see the now frozen second hand move for about 3 seconds every minute as the time updates. I might just drop the second hand if I can't figure out how to hide it selectively. As an added bonus, the refresh doesn't activate the face, it will flash and the hands update but it remains in dim mode.
I think you can disable the vibrate notification for a face change. It flashes quite quickly on refresh - 1-2 seconds. I wonder if there's a way to disable the "white" flash on refresh? Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with it for a more usable AOD with faces that are otherwise hard to see at 15% OPR.
WARNING: Don't forget about burn-in. I'm creating a mesh overlay (basically 1 pure black pixel per 11x11 square) that will "rotate" every minute to duplicate the burn-in protection. Instead of shifting pixels, it will black out very pixel once every hour or two. Then I also have a rotation of black/dark gray screens with an equal number of colored faces.

Question Sleep and workouts accuracy

Hi, sleep recording in Samsung health in very random, deep sleep 15 min each night, not sleeping for 1 h and a half, clearly not accurate. Does it works better android app or simply the watch can't make better ? (GW 4 by). Also, while hiking, Samsung health stops recording hearth rhythm for 5-10 min, restarts again, stopping again and so on. Same question, with another app can I get better results ? Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
adrianhoria said:
Hi, sleep recording in Samsung health in very random, deep sleep 15 min each night, not sleeping for 1 h and a half, clearly not accurate. Does it works better android app or simply the watch can't make better ? (GW 4 by). Also, while hiking, Samsung health stops recording hearth rhythm for 5-10 min, restarts again, stopping again and so on. Same question, with another app can I get better results ? Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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The Samsung sleep monitor in health doesn't work work a crap. It'll say I slept 2 hours when I slept 8, etc.. Download sleep for android on your phone and watch and use that. It works awesome. It even has an alarm setting that looks for the perfect sleep pattern to wake you up so you're less tired. I have mine set to only 20 minutes within my alarm time, and I feel pretty good most mornings. Hope this helps with that piece.
As for heart beat and such, I've never had an issue with both my watch 4 and watch 5. You might want to try a factory reset of the watch for that.

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