Hello,
here in France some operator won't allow MMS to go up to 600KB, but will restrict it to 300KB. The trick is, using hangout, the app only tries to send it full res, and wont try to compress it.
I can send very little files through Hangouts, so the MMS APN are OK, but if I take a shot with the S7 and try to send it without compressing it manually, it won't send.
Long story short, is there a way to specify a maximum size in hangouts or at phone level ? I really hate the stock app or messenger (and they compress way too much anyway...)
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I really like GTunes a lot. However, when I try and send mp3 files through sms as is an option given, the file will not send. Is there another program like GTunes that will allow for me to send the music files through sms?
It's not possible to send any files through sms.
JR_de said:
It's not possible to send any files through sms.
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However, MMS shouldn't cause you any problems. I have an Incredible, so the messaging app is slightly different, but when you go to attach, it just asks what file you would like to attach. Just my 2¢
MMS messaging can only send texts no bigger then 300kb (or may even be smaller depending on your service provider)
Your average mp3 is around 5MB.
This would mean you'd have to split up the mp3 in to about 510 seperate MMS messages.
I think the option given is to send the link to the file to another person.
Hey there,
If I send a message that is too long (like it breaks up into 2 messages after the 1st messages character limit is exceeded), the message will not send. I am using a 3rd party, 8sms, because I don't like utilizing Hangouts as my SMS and chat.
I'm sure they will blame it on me using the 3rd party app, because thats what they did last time I had a problem (not related to this)
Anyone else having this problem? Is it Nexus 5 wide, or just Sprint?
Thank you so much.
gsteelx said:
Hey there,
If I send a message that is too long (like it breaks up into 2 messages after the 1st messages character limit is exceeded), the message will not send. I am using a 3rd party, 8sms, because I don't like utilizing Hangouts as my SMS and chat.
I'm sure they will blame it on me using the 3rd party app, because thats what they did last time I had a problem (not related to this)
Anyone else having this problem? Is it Nexus 5 wide, or just Sprint?
Thank you so much.
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It is doing the same thing when I switch it to Hangouts.
Sprint rep not very helpful. Did a bunch of phone resetting, changing the MSID, etc... to no avail.
gsteelx said:
Hey there,
If I send a message that is too long (like it breaks up into 2 messages after the 1st messages character limit is exceeded), the message will not send. I am using a 3rd party, 8sms, because I don't like utilizing Hangouts as my SMS and chat.
I'm sure they will blame it on me using the 3rd party app, because thats what they did last time I had a problem (not related to this)
Anyone else having this problem? Is it Nexus 5 wide, or just Sprint?
Thank you so much.
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I haven't tried any third-party SMS apps yet because I'm mostly happy with Hangouts, but it really annoys me that I can't even send a text with more than 160 characters. On previous phones, you could set up the messaging app to let you type to your heart's content and have the app automatically split the message up into 160-character texts. In Hangouts, it actually won't let you type more than 160 characters. You have to send the text and then start another one. There's no way that I can find to change this.
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I haven't tried any third-party SMS apps yet because I'm mostly happy with Hangouts, but it really annoys me that I can't even send a text with more than 160 characters. On previous phones, you could set up the messaging app to let you type to your heart's content and have the app automatically split the message up into 160-character texts. In Hangouts, it actually won't let you type more than 160 characters. You have to send the text and then start another one. There's no way that I can find to change this.
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Yeah, that is what I meant by it not allowing me to do it on Hangouts either. It is truly annoying as ****. 8SMS is really just like the old messaging that we used to have before these updates. I am overall happy with it, just not with not being able to send a message over 160 characters, because it fails.
Does anyone else have a 3rd party SMS app that they like? I tried another one in the Play Store, but it had heaps of ads pop up after sending a text message... I gave that the swift delete quick!
Thanks for everyones help. This forum rocks!
I tried an app called Textra, just to see if it was 8SMS causing the problem.
Textra did the same thing...
I figured out the problem of why it wouldn't send text messages over 160 characters in 8SMS.
In the older versions of Android, on the messenger, it would automatically change the over 160 SMS to an MMS, and you could keep typing. By default, in 8SMS, this wasn't enabled. I had to enable it in settings.
Problem fixed.
Hopefully anyone who uses 8SMS will find this post. I highly recommend this app. I am not a fan of hangouts for SMS.
This is standard for SMS, some phones trick you into thinking there is no limit by not showing you the count or the limit and automatically combining everything or converting the SMS into another protocol (like imessage)
More info here:
http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/sms/features/sms.html
Specifically from the site:
"The messages are limited by size. An SMS message can’t exceed 160 characters. (BTW this limitation is due to the limitation in the MAP protocol in GSM) In case of longer e-mails or information service messages like news, the messages need to broken down into more than one message. The need to break the messages into several smaller segments could make SMS comparatively costlier in comparison to GPRS (for the same kind of service). Also, This doesn’t look very appealing on a mobile device!
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MMS (talked about later) would remove the limitation of small messages"
Personally I think in the year 2013/2014 and the technologies we have I'm sure it is possible to change this limitation by introducing a new SMS method or protocol/etc but that requires someone to actually spend the time and money to introduce a new standard that replaces one that has been in place for a very long time
I was having the same issue. There are two options to get long text messages to work on Sprint. I'm also using 8sms (great messaging app, really recommend it over Hangouts).
The first, like someone else stated, is to select the option to convert long messages to picture messages. Make sure you select anything over 1 message long to be converted.
The second option that I discovered is to enable "split counter" in the settings. This will split the texts and send them as consecutives SMS messages without converting them to MMS messages. Hope this helps.
I take a normal 3-4 meg picture and when I send it using Google messenger it compresses it to 30-45kb, yea, KB!
This is horrid and embarrassing when people actually get said picture. Its such terrible quality. My friend on Tmobile with his Iphone looked to have the same issue a week ago when we were testing.
Is there some setting here? OR is this going to be Tmobile's new thing?
It's not tmobile only, mms have some standards and one of them is that they cannot carry big amounts of data (3-4mb). every phone does it whether on tmobile or some other carrier, its built into the phone and therefore into the messaging app. The phone has to compress the image in order to be able to send it. Thats why I use whats app or any other internet based messaging system(imessage, hangouts, etc) when I send any photo
maybe I should rephrase
This isn't my first rodeo, I've done enough with phones over the many years to understand exactly how it works, but this is the first time they have ever compressed a 3-4 meg picture down to 20-40kb, for example on AT&T and Verizon during my testing its at least double that for the same size picture, if not even more , many times compressing it to a 200-350kb size picture. @ 40kb the picture is not even really recognized..
do the test now, take a picture high res. and send it to someone, check the size of the photo you sent.
Is this my phone issue? or is this a tmobile issue? or is there a setting somewhere within the app or phone that is telling it to use low data when sending pictures
It is Google messenger. Use the stock app and the issue goes away. 820KB file size for stock app and 17KB for Google messenger.
if you are sending the pic to a newer phone it will send the full size
the sms app on newer phones has more features you can only use on newer to newer phones
Rich 1 on 1 and group messaging, including near real-time chat
See when others are typing, when your message is delivered and even read
Share high-res photos and videos up to 10 MB just as you would a regular text message
I've heard the opposite about the default messaging app in android. Started with my note 5. I couldn't send pics and text, only pics. So all you have to do is download a messaging app that has better features.
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The issue is specifically with Google messenger. I noticed this right when the G5 was released. Any other SMS client (stock, textra, hangouts) fixes the issue. I haven't tested it with the latest update of Google messenger though. Which version were you using?
google messenger sucks, facebook messenger sucks, I use handcent and that seems to send reasonably sized pictures.
Everytime I send a picture through MMS using the native messenger the image quality gets lowered and the images are grainy is there any way to change that?
There is a transfer limit per mms. With my provider, Vodafone Germany, it is at 300 kb. The sent pictures simply get compressed.
You can try to use a different sms messenger like QKSMS. It allows you to play around with this limit. But in my expierence I was refused to send a message when the limit was above 300 kb.
It is neither the fault of your sms app nor your phone. You can't do anything about it. Don't use mms. Get data plan an start using a messenger like threema or telegram or other alternatives to share your pictures. They usually provide options to control the quality of the sent and received content.
Some operators allow you to change the compression, usually in the client portal. Some don't. It's not a device limitation. Contact your operator and ask them.
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Thanks for the answers I appreciate the help
It definitely is an app limitation on my Mate 9. Default Huawei messaging app always compresses the images horribly. I installed Textra and set MMS limit to 2000KB and images look far better. Shame the default messaging app doesn't have an option to change the limit.
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It definitely is an app limitation on my Mate 9. Default Huawei messaging app always compresses the images horribly. I installed Textra and set MMS limit to 2000KB and images look far better. Shame the default messaging app doesn't have an option to change the limit.
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How does it look at the receiving end?
Hey guys,
I know this might be an odd question but when I send images via Messages app, I cannot send the full size image via messaging. Is there a way to stop the compression feature?
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I believe that the stock messages app uses MMS and the size are controlled by your carrier. the standard messaging app does not work like iMessage or other 3:rd party texts apps that use "internet" to send messages.
If im not totally off on my information most normal sms/mms have a locked size in kb of how big they can be.
So if you wanna send full size images I would suggest that you and the person you wanna send pics to use a 3:rd party app like Telegram, Facebook Messenger, Google Allo etc. they work Cross OSes, Windows, Android, MacOS, iOS.
Just got this phone a few days ago. First Samsung phone. I found the app would crash after sending mms messages. I finally just loaded Android Messages. Too bad. I hate having redundant apps.