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I had my 7.7 for some time and about 2 days ago i've bought a cheap chinese usb otg cable from some shoup around here. I thought it would be as simple as pluging it in and connecting some usb stick like i've done with justabout all usb otg stuff i previously owned. But it doesn`t do anything. I`ve tried other usb devices, the tab simply doesn`t power them at all. I`ve also disasembled the cable and measure it, everything is fine. I`m on stock ics 4.04, also tried a couple of kernels, it just doesn`t work.
Has anyone encountered such a problem.? Damn weird....
motoi_bogdan said:
I had my 7.7 for some time and about 2 days ago i've bought a cheap chinese usb otg cable from some shoup around here. I thought it would be as simple as pluging it in and connecting some usb stick like i've done with justabout all usb otg stuff i previously owned. But it doesn`t do anything. I`ve tried other usb devices, the tab simply doesn`t power them at all. I`ve also disasembled the cable and measure it, everything is fine. I`m on stock ics 4.04, also tried a couple of kernels, it just doesn`t work.
Has anyone encountered such a problem.? Damn weird....
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I have an original cable but also bought an after market one that verizon had made available for their version of the 7.7
I bought it here:
http://www.wirelessground.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-wall-charger-verizon.html
Excelllent service and price. Works great and quality build
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whitehawk66 said:
I have an original cable but also bought an after market one that verizon had made available for their version of the 7.7
I bought it here:
http://www.wirelessground.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-wall-charger-verizon.html
Excelllent service and price. Works great and quality build
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errrr....I think I misread your issue and specific item...
sorry!
Still great though!
The usb otg cable is just a plain simple usb cable with a 20kilo ohm resistor placed between 2 pins on the galaxy tab 30pin connector. That's about all the things inside the actual cable. When you plug it in, the tablet should figure out that the 20k resistor made contact with the pins and an accesory was connected. Mine doesn't. The cable is fine, i think there's something wrong with the tablet. Doesn't it supossed to power on whatever you insert on that usb port? Because i can't get those 5v on the port.
I don't know if it's a software or hardware problem....
motoi_bogdan said:
The usb otg cable is just a plain simple usb cable with a 20kilo ohm resistor placed between 2 pins on the galaxy tab 30pin connector. That's about all the things inside the actual cable. When you plug it in, the tablet should figure out that the 20k resistor made contact with the pins and an accesory was connected. Mine doesn't. The cable is fine, i think there's something wrong with the tablet. Doesn't it supossed to power on whatever you insert on that usb port? Because i can't get those 5v on the port.
I don't know if it's a software or hardware problem....
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what file system is your USB Stick using? try formatting the stick to FAT32 and see if its a file system issue
have you tried using another OTG cable? I'm also using a china knock off bought for 4 bucks, running stock ICS and it detects most of the thumb drives I attached to it
thanks for the replies but the situation is kind of different in my case.
In order for the tablet to read what kind of filesystem you have on a usb mass storage device (stick, hdd, whatever) it must first power it on and then attempt to access it. In my case, it simply doesn't power on. So, it doesn't matter what kind of file format it has. Also, if i plug a mouse/keyboard, it won't work either.
I thought that maybe it's a broken wire inside the connector, so i took it apart and measured each pin. The otg adapter is fine, it should do the job. I've also tested on another samsung tab and it worked straight away. It seems there's something wrong with my tab. However, other then this, the 30 pin port on the tab itself seems to be working fine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
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Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
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I asked the seller if it was compatible with the S5 and he said no
byransays said:
Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
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did you get a replacement? does it work with hdmi and usb host at the same time?
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
...which one
Purplys said:
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
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Which one are you referring to?
tamuin said:
Which one are you referring to?
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the one OP says:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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Unfortunately I don't think so, I used this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lindy-73391-...6?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item462bc81bb0
with a s4, and it worked prperly, but when connected to s5 it doesn't even turns on. I think it is because s5 doesn't have a docking mode, in fact if you go in Settings-->accessories, there is only an option for sound on hdmi, while in s4 there were more (and one was for the docking mode)
I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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This is a good solution, but I'm wondering why, since 11 pin connectors usually can handle hdmi and usb otg on the same time, why old dock stations for 11 pin device don't work?
using micro 3.0 for MHL and OTG
i have a SM-G900P and if i make a OTG and MLH cable through usb 3.0 do you think i could charge and use HDMI and 2 usb for keyboard and mouse. My goal is to make my phone like a mini computer on the go for my roms and movies
Possibly use the USB 3.0 Micro-b connection?
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
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All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
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I'm having an issue with MHL adapter on my S5, When I connect my MHL adapter to my S5, the audio on my TV seems delayed, but when I tried it on my S3, the audio is perfectly fine. Is this something to do with S5 having 5 pin only wherein S3 having 11pin?
I saw a 5 pin to 11 pin converter on Amazon, will this solve this issue? And possibly the issue of not being able to use MHL/HDMI and USB at the same time?
buy chrome cast you can screen mirror or use almost any app directly to the tv when it comes to videos and such theres a little allshare
button at the top of like the video player, you tube etc.
also a smart tv does the same thing only better (all the above scenarios will only work with a connected network)
what is wrong with the image quality?
Chromecast works for me at home or anywhere it has standard wifi, but is too painful in most hotels that use a web user login. Without net access it was almost useless last time I tried. I could pair with it, but it wouldn't stream local files from my device. Most places I've stayed in the last few years have an active HDMI port on their tv, so the MHL HDMI and OTG with USB wireless mouse on an S3 worked for me, even though I couldn't charge at the same time. Haven't been able to make that work so far with anything I've tried on the S5.
Still no luck with S5 docking (MHL+OTG)
Hello!
I've been using this adapter for a while with a Samsung Galaxy S4:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MHL-...or-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note/32461052976.html
Charging, HDMI connection and USB keyboard + mouse works very nice.
Unfortunately no luck with S5. Not even charging works. I read S5 doesn't use 11-pin USB (because of the USB 3.0 plug, etc...). If that's true, then not even installing a custom ROM would make the docking work.
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57336973&postcount=4, "the G800F is capable of USB OTG. It simply is not enabled in the stock firmware." I know this is about a S5 Mini, but wouldn't it be the same for the S5?
Hi all
I recently bought samsung galaxy smart dock from aliexpress it was available for $ 35 dollars at the time of purchase.Basically It was samsung smart dock for note 2.On description it was mentioned that it would work with s4 and note 3.I tried using dock on galaxy s4 I9505 but none of the usb ports are working, tried many usb,mouse,keyboard none of them work.I have been experimenting with the dock but only hdmi is working.The phone recognises the dock and when connected it switches to dock mode but doesn't responds to any usb device. Have tried changing data cables and chargers and still not working.
Am I missing any stepstep in using dock,Is smart dock faulty or is this fake smart dock?
I have attached the picture of the dock.
I'm having problems too.
The HDMI on mine works but if I plug anything in the USB ports then the HDMI will flash on and off. If I use mine with mouse and keyboard plugged in but use the screen on the phone (nothing plugged in to HDMI) they work fine. Not sure what to do. It is as if there is not enough power to run all of it.
I have a smart dock and ran into the same trouble. I found that if i plugged in the USB devices before I docked the phone the usb would work great. I have tried a USB keyboard with additional USB ports, a USB mouse, and a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad combo. All have worked fine. I hope this helps.
Hello. I have those... my s4 no charging. Everytin is ok. But not chargin very well
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The HDMI on mine works but if I plug anything in the USB ports then the HDMI will flash on and off. If I use mine with mouse and keyboard plugged in but use the screen on the phone (nothing plugged in to HDMI) they work fine. Not sure what to do. It is as if there is not enough power to run all of it.
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Use geninue samsung charger of 2000 ma. Either the one that was supplied by the phone or the one that came with the smart dock.Try changing data cables.Samsung data cables are little thicker than ordinary cables.
The problem with my smart dock was that it had one broken pin of front connector,that pin was bend when I inspected closely . So I bought another one and all usb,hdmi and charging function is working at same time.I tested using usb 4 gb,keyboard and mouse. Then I plugged speakers and connected to tv .All function were working.:
ErisDroid? said:
I have a smart dock and ran into the same trouble. I found that if i plugged in the USB devices before I docked the phone the usb would work great. I have tried a USB keyboard with additional USB ports, a USB mouse, and a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad combo. All have worked fine. I hope this helps.
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The problem with my smart dock was that it had one broken pin of front connector,that pin was bend when I inspected closely . So I bought another smart dock and all usb,hdmi and charging function is working at same time.The dock works no matter in which order you use it.I found on the new one that you can plug keyboard, mouse or any usb product before of after putting phone,all works flawlessly.
I had a Smart Dock a while ago and had to return it because after some minor issues with the device not charging, hdmi not working... that usually only needed reconnecting it stopped working, and that happened after having used it few times, I have the feeling they have low build quality. I suggest you try to return it and get other solution.
I got refund from the seller on aliexpress.I came to know that smart dock was itself faulty and it was a copy of original galaxy smart dock.
The connector pin that was bended inwards and was not broken I fixed it later by adjusting the pin with needle and came to know it was not only the issue.I came to kow that if any pin is broken inside connector,Phone will never recognize the dock.In my case phone was recognizing the dock just the dock itself was not responding to any usb device.
The smart dock still then didn't worked although my phone goes to dock mode when connected.Only hdmi and charging works.I returned the product. and bought another one from ebay which is working flawlessly now
I have this dock, I actually bought it from Samsung.com and for some odd reason ended up paying a total of $175usd for it ._.
(original price was $100, shipping ended up as another $30, and then it was wrongfully seized by costumes which nothing short of demanded $45usd or else they confiscate it, I could appeal but that would take ~six months and ... I will face storage charges meanwhile...... which is complete BS.)
As for its functionality:
This thing, on my i9505 works like charm, no need to do any sort of voodoo like putting the USB devices before plugging the device, I simply plug anything I want in any order I want, external 2TB HD? no problems, Logitech G500 mouse? yep, a Filco USB keyboard? aha, 48" SmartTV ? yep.
Everything works, the device "kicks in" some kind of "docking station mode" and everything works from there.
However: this "docking station mode" cannot be avoided or escaped and only apps that show up in it work (stock browser\gallery\mp3\calendar\alarm clock) .. and it works with a small delay, like as if the mouse sits behind a time delay of ~200ms, you know, just slightly faster than 1\4 of a second, same goes for the keyboard, video however plays at the same time was on the phone but UI animations are slightly slowed (both on phone and external display)
This delay is making the overall expriance to be very bad, I can only imagine that the note 2\s3 must feel even slower.
I also have the other simpler adapter that only goes to the power adapter\HDMI (Samsung's as well, from another order, originally bought it for my old n7000\note 1), with that thing the UI is just as slow, everything works essentially the same... video plays wihout issues ETC
What I found out is that with the dock station you cant use any micro-usb extension cable (so that .. the S4 could be used with an extended battery case [or just any non generic thick case]) but with the HDMI adapter it does work (also the female USB adapter, the one that allows you to plug a single device such as thumb-drive\mouse\keyboard - does work with extended micro usb cable)
And last observation:
When using the Sony Expria Z3 Compact (comes with Snapdragon 801) with the Samsung HDMI adapter... it works PERFECTLY, super fast, no delays, UI smooth, and all apps (Everything, really) is accessible... even Blizzard's new Android Hearthstone game... everything, meanwhile the S4 is sluggish as hell and super unfun to use :\
Oh and no phone other than Samsung's works on the docking station, not even old Samsung note 1 (tried nexus 5, lg g2, lg g3, galaxy s1, expria z3 compact, galaxy s2 - only the S4 worked with the dock)
samXLR said:
However: this "docking station mode" cannot be avoided or escaped and only apps that show up in it work (stock browser\gallery\mp3\calendar\alarm clock) .. and it works with a small delay, like as if the mouse sits behind a time delay of ~200ms, you know, just slightly faster than 1\4 of a second, same goes for the keyboard, video however plays at the same time was on the phone but UI animations are slightly slowed (both on phone and external display)
This delay is making the overall expriance to be very bad, I can only imagine that the note 2\s3 must feel even slower.
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??? Settings>My Device>Accessories to turn off the 'docking mode'
Animations can be a bit sluggish because it's running at 30hz not 60hz like the standalone MHL 2.0 HDMI cable does. Samsung never released an updated version of this dock so I can only assume it wasn't a big hit. (And probably this is one of the reasons! Lack of a landscape support in the touchwiz launcher was a bit of a thumbs down aswell)
I had some problems with HDMI output after a while and initially thought the dock at fault but replacing the usb port in my S4 solved all problems. After about a year of use, dust and grime and crap tends to mess them up. Had the same situation with the S2. Gone past the 2 year point now with my S4, so probably due to replace the port again.
Having a mouse and keyboard plugged in, automatically turns off the device screen, but the touch stills work if you need to do a 'pinch' gesture or similar.
Any full sized S or Note phone after the S3/Note 2 should be compatible with this dock. I had it work for S3 and 4 and Note 2. Not had any others to try them out though. The Note 1 and S2 are only MHL 1.0 so they don't work and I've tried the S4 mini, it won't actually fit, the port on the phone is a slightly different shape (?!)
dave106 said:
??? Settings>My Device>Accessories to turn off the 'docking mode'
Animations can be a bit sluggish because it's running at 30hz not 60hz like the standalone MHL 2.0 HDMI cable does. Samsung never released an updated version of this dock so I can only assume it wasn't a big hit. (And probably this is one of the reasons! Lack of a landscape support in the touchwiz launcher was a bit of a thumbs down aswell)
Any full sized S or Note phone after the S3/Note 2 should be compatible with this dock. I had it work for S3 and 4 and Note 2. Not had any others to try them out though. The Note 1 and S2 are only MHL 1.0 so they don't work and I've tried the S4 mini, it won't actually fit, the port on the phone is a slightly different shape (?!)
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Thanks for the explanation and feedback Dave =),
The S5 works just the same as an S4, the S4 Active with its inferior specification surprisingly works exactly the same too, furthermore I even tried two other flavors of the S4 (the Verizon version, the 9505 and the 9500) all operates the same.
However, the S6 does not work at all with the dock, regardless of my efforts.
Additionally, during my attempts I found out that if you use a micro USB extension cable (mine was only 2" in length) the dock wouldn't work, I tried using it so I could have the phone laying flat on a table instead of sitting inside the dock (reason was actually due to having an extended 7k battery on one of the above S4s and didn't want to remove it just to fit the phone in the dock ... ended up having to do so as ..... yeah, extension cable = not even charging from the dock)
Oh and with all of the devices that I used with the dock: their screen remind turned on and was displaying a mirror view of the external HDMI screen, unlike what you reported (touch working and no visual cue?)
In my opinion this device, the dock station, is almost as big of a fail as Samsung's wireless keyboard for their SmartTV line ... that doesn't (don't laugh) actually support any of their smart TVs (and does work on any BT enabled android/IOS/windows/linux device, just not on their own TVs despite actually having all the special buttons of their remotes) beyond that point, there's the fact that the keyboard's integrated touchpad is complete garbage (unlike say... Logitech's wireless keyboard's touchpad ...)
Use it correctly...
i have the same dock and all ports work fine. you only have to connect the the charger IN THE PORT and THEN insert the HDMI or USB.
Hi guys i purchased a hdmi to mhl adapter cable for my S4 i9505 (i have attached image, intented for S4) which is rooted running on stock rom 4.2.2 JB.
It is not working with my s4, i have noticed that the mhl port does not insert fully into my s4, and goes in about 3/4, is this normal?
I have tried restarting phone and tv, connected to power source correctly etc. Are there any other considerations?
On a side note, i tried this cable on my Note 10.1 2014 tablet and it inserts fully in, i get the "hdmi connected" message and it works flawlessly. However its not working on my S4.
If anyone has any suggestions or solutions, please let me know. Thanks.
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Hi guys i purchased a hdmi to mhl adapter cable for my S4 i9505 (i have attached image, intented for S4) which is rooted running on stock rom 4.2.2 JB.
It is not working with my s4, i have noticed that the mhl port does not insert fully into my s4, and goes in about 3/4, is this normal?
I have tried restarting phone and tv, connected to power source correctly etc. Are there any other considerations?
On a side note, i tried this cable on my Note 10.1 2014 tablet and it inserts fully in, i get the "hdmi connected" message and it works flawlessly. However its not working on my S4.
If anyone has any suggestions or solutions, please let me know. Thanks.
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Maybe needs power adapter connected to the phone. I know the Genuine Hdtv Hdmi adapter works with the S4 without requiring power connected. Also Its Mhl 2.0, not sure what ur cable is ? 2.0 or 1.0?
It is connected to power source, the issue is its not inserting fully into my s4. I tried it on a mates S3lte today and it worked and went in fully and worked.
What could be the issue? Any suggestions?
P.s. im not sure if its mhl 1.0 or 2.0 but the cable was advertised to work with s4.
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When I got my Genuine Samsung MHL adapter, I couldn't get it to work at first either. Same problem, the connector looked much longer than regular micro-USB, and I found it strange that it stuck out so much. In the end, I figured that there was a reason that the MHL connector is longer, and I pushed it in slightly harder, and it finally snapped in properly, and my S4 told me that the adapter was detected. It does take more effort than a regular micro-usb cable to connect properly, so try using just slightly more pressure than normal, until it pops in all the way, or at least until the device is detected. If veins are popping out of your forehead, then you're pushing way too hard, and something else is wrong.
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When I got my Genuine Samsung MHL adapter, I couldn't get it to work at first either. Same problem, the connector looked much longer than regular micro-USB, and I found it strange that it stuck out so much. In the end, I figured that there was a reason that the MHL connector is longer, and I pushed it in slightly harder, and it finally snapped in properly, and my S4 told me that the adapter was detected. It does take more effort than a regular micro-usb cable to connect properly, so try using just slightly more pressure than normal, until it pops in all the way, or at least until the device is detected. If veins are popping out of your forehead, then you're pushing way too hard, and something else is wrong.
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I tried to put alot of pressure but it did not go in. Werid thing is, i tried the mhl adapter cable with another friends S4 and even on that, it didnt go in and gave the same issue.
Now im wondering if Samsung possibily made some early batches of the S4 that take the 5pin connector? And that being the reason why it does not insert properly into two handsets i have tried on. Any ideas or suggestions people? Thanks
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Online I've seen people using a USB OTG cable on the Samsung Galaxy S6 but when I try to do so on a Verizon model it does not respond to keyboard or mouse input.
Has anyone else tried to use USB OTG?
I used my OTG cable to hook my verizon s6 to my external hard drive last week. Everything worked fine. Check your language and input setting maybe?
Well the problem is that there is no response at all. For example when I connect the mouse to another phone via the cable the mouse light turns on, connecting it to the S6 does nothing.
Are you on 6.0.1 as well?
I am currently on 6.0.1. The other thing to check would be the usb options in the notification area when you plug it in, if that shows up.
That's what I'm hoping for as well but nothing shows up, very odd.
Have you tried using your OTG cable on another device? Or using another peripheral? Do you plug in your device to charge it? I'm just trying to think of all the possible things that could be awry.
Well so it worked fine on a Moto G and X and I had only tried a keyboard and a mouse. I've now tried a USB stick and it suddenly works on my Galaxy S6 as well. Keyboard and mouse now suddenly work as wel... I'm starting to think it must have been a loose connection due to my phone case or something cus I can not think of any other explanation as to why it suddenly started working. Regardless, thanks for your help!