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Just wondering who is planning on changing smart watches from their Sony SmartWatch 2 to one of the newly announced Android Wear smart watches? Also interested in who has already made the swap.
Vote in the poll and leave your comments below.
no, im not. i still like my sw2 and other smartwatches still dont offer any reason to replace sw2.
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still very much liking my SW2, waiting for the G Watch R and ZenWatch to become available so i can check reviews, not buying anything before that
Staying with SW2 until something better comes along. The Android Wear offerings right now just can't compete.
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n3vry said:
Staying with SW2 until something better comes along. The Android Wear offerings right now just can't compete.
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This.
None of the new watches seem to be an improvement.
I'm kind of hanging out for the Moto 360 to be released in Australia. The reviews don't seem to be all that positive at the moment but it is an attractive watch
I will move on. Sony abandoning SW2 tells me I should too.
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The Sony Smartwatch 2 does everything I need it to..the way I like it too. Very sad that Sony have jumped to Android Wear. I don't like Android Wear so far and I cant see that changing. And Google are far to intrusive for me.
I intend to buy another Smartwatch 2 as a spare, just to be safe. I tried not wearing the Smartwatch 2 for a couple of days and every time my phone got a text or a call I looked at my wrist. Its a hard habit to break once you get used to a Smartwatch.
well,i'm going to stay with the sw2 until google will release android wear 2.0 and the new smartwatch.
enigma_x said:
no, im not. i still like my sw2 and other smartwatches still dont offer any reason to replace sw2.
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I couldn't have said it any better. No current touchscreen smartwatch has addressed my primary concern, which is battery life. Right now, I can squeeze two full days of battery with my SW2, anything less than that is not worth taking the leap.
i charged my sw2 two times a week. it lasts 3-4 days in my light use.... notification, reading sms/emails/news/browsing web...
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i charged my sw2 two times a week. it lasts 3-4 days in my light use.... notification, reading sms/emails/news/browsing web...
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It last a week for me, but thinking to buy de moto 360 becaus it looks better with the round display.
only point i will miss is that it has not a transflective screen.
I won't because I'm not fan of Android Wear. If SW2 will die some day, I'll have a look on things actually at this moment. For now I can't imagine to change Smartwatch...
I love my sw2 and I thought it could not change. I have everything I need. I got a free LG GWatch and I wear two watch right now.
LG is really much easier to use and does a lot more than something practically doing nothing. "OK Google" : setup an alarm in 4H, weather, reminds me dentist 27 september at 13H, takes a note take the car to the garage next month, my remind for today, new event doctor october 28 at 18H34 .... everything is done almost without touching anything and without hands.
just try wear one day and we can not do without
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I love my sw2 and I thought it could not change. I have everything I need. I got a free LG GWatch and I wear two watch right now.
LG is really much easier to use and does a lot more than something practically doing nothing. "OK Google" : setup an alarm in 4H, weather, reminds me dentist 27 september at 13H, takes a note take the car to the garage next month, my remind for today, new event doctor october 28 at 18H34 .... everything is done almost without touching anything and without hands.
just try wear one day and we can not do without
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Yeah this is something I'm looking forward to as I use google now on my phone and find it quite useful. But battery life is still a concern for me.
i wonder if we'll ever see another update for the SW2
i'd still really like to see a selectable screen/message timeout
and official whatsapp support
what would you guys really want from an update?
i love my sw2..i am goin to stick with this for work nd i ordered a moto 360 on release.. thats for me to go out with or if i want to feel real dressy at work. not sure how much i will like android wear but i do like the new designs of watch..360 nd zen r my fav..the new sony looks cool but they make buy there bands only...good luck on your decision.
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I'd like to see Sony add a pseudo Google Now feature in which you trigger Google now from your watch but it uses your phone's microphone and displays info on the watch.
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Yeah this is something I'm looking forward to as I use google now on my phone and find it quite useful. But battery life is still a concern for me.
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I've never seen too much of interest to Google Now on the phone. I thought it would be the same on the watch. In fact it is totally different on the smartwatch. Voice commands are used instead of the menus on the screen and response. "Start Evernote" instead of power + home + swip and find evernote icon + click icon. The smartwatch remains lit shorter and it consumes less energy.
Many Android applications already run with wear without the need for an additional application to find for the smartwatch. Ex : AllTheCooks -> you have a Wear Shopping List, CalenGoo -> you have an "Add new Event" with vocal command in Wear.....
I just got a SW2 and im not changing for a long while, maybe when battery drain improves. This ones lasts 2 days with regular use. Moto 360 has received bad reviews about battery drain and slow performance. The new LG G Watch R seems a lot better and looks even better.
Hi guys, so im thinking to buy Honor 6 , because i like alot that design, but you guys tell me is it worth buying it ? (even i hate that huawei UI) if not ? then what you recomand me to buy (something that cost same like Honor 6 ) ?
Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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well thanks man, what you suggest me to get ?
I still love my Honor 6... and don't have any of the issues reported.
But if was today, I'd probably get a One Plus X.
i love my honor 6 dual sim with lte and also have no issues...I would buy it again, especially for the price of 239 USD....
good luck anyway...
Robo
p.s. and i play games with no strutters (nfs...)
and with emui3 you can change a lot the look and feel of the phone...
I dont have any of those mentioned problems.
Still works good for me, nice performance, nice battery life.
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Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
I had a modded Samsung s2 before and it had the same performance in games, all was fluid, but it had no microstutters and wasnt stuttering and ghost pushing when i had it connect with the power connector. If you want to see something in the daylight you have to put the highest brightness on and even then it's not perfect.
The only difference between the s2 and the h6 was the display wasn't as big as the Honor 6 plus updates came out immediately on Samsung.
Please don't throw your money away. The phone was hyped too much. In real it's a faulty cheap device. I'll never do the failure again.
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Do you have some links, threads on the forums etc. to put more credibility to your claims? I tried to look for it, but it doesn't seem like these issues are as well known as you say...
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Please don't throw your money away! The phone is a whole marketing lie. The display starts to get red and blue spots in a couple of months till the whole display got a line in the size of a matchstick (till now). The display doesn't react like it should when you put the power connector into it in the time of a half year to year and ghost pushes. Huawei can't handle to update the operating system (they had a year old Android on it when it came out, after a year an already 2 years old Android Update came out and now it got a half year old Android version on it, while Android 6 came out on 5. October). It produces microstutters when you are browsing and playing games, because they fkd up the energy saving and performance mode to degrade the phone into a whole energy saving phone.
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This issues are definitely made up. Or caused by bad treatment of the phone. I can assure you that none of the mentioned above happens.
As for the system updates, it is a downside that updates come too slow, but if you are not of those people who flash new roms every day, it shouldn't really bother you.
I'd say the terrible WiFi performance (WiFi is unusable if you're streaming audio to a Bluetooth device) and EMUI 3.1 being pretty broken (Chrome tabs are nowhere to be found, Smart Lock doesn't work properly, and many many useful features of 5.1 are hidden or plain absent) are dealbreakers for me.
Add to this the fact that the power button on mine stopped working. The Honorvipservice.co.uk website doesn't work, and tells you to call the service centre. Called the centre and they said to call Huawei. Called Huawei and the booked it in over the phone. Allegedly a replacement phone will come tomorrow, but to be honest I think I'm just going to sell it and get a Motorola so I can get stock Android 5.1.
PS should add that I'm back on my old Moto G first generation (non 4G) and I'm actually much preferring the experience to that of the Honor 6 Plus - even with the slower operation and smaller screen. Android just works properly - at least with the minimum apps installed.
No problems with this phone. EMUI 3.1 works like a charm (no issues with chrome tabs) haven't done both bluetooth streaming with wifi but the wifi itself is stable and quick enough.
I bought my Honor 6 for £80 as a joke phone as I never tried an Huawei and did not want to spend a lot of money on it and boy am I impressed. Aside from development, the phone is really quick and the processor (which is basically an Exynos CPU, which are the best imo) is good and coupled with 3GB RAM means its definitely high end material. Just put on MIUI 7 on the phone and you are set. Lovely phone but I don't use it much as I have loads of phones haha. At the price range its in its great. I would not spend more on a Huawei (like the 6P) than the Honor 6.
Yeah, the phone is all good for me. If you have the patience to wait for software updates, its a fine phone.
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Chrome tabs are nowhere to be found
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Are you sure? There was a change in how Chrome handles tabs (not EMUI related) and you might've missed that. Now each tab is treated like a different application - you manage tabs in Recent Apps (the square button). Works for me.
The other stuff mentioned here isn't too important for me to be honest, but I understand your concerns. I definitely have the patience for updates, coming from a phone that had Android 4.1 (and quite usable 4.4 custom rom) and 0,7GB of RAM, Honor 6 is a massive upgrade for me. kackalarm's issues seem faulty model related at best, and blatant lies at worst. I'm pretty objective towards the fact that my phone might have some faults in the future, but it's hard to believe stuff like that without any proof...
For its price, it's not bad at all. Screen is nice, and not too big (5" is the absolute maximum for the size of my pocket). It looks better than most phones in this price range, has 3GB RAM which should be future-proof enough. There's some ROM development, even if we're still waiting for any kernel sources newer than KitKat, I can wait. (Although there are definitely safer bets if you care about ROM development, there is a chance Huawei won't care about it anymore) I'm satisfied with EMUI and that's got to be the first time I even considered using stock, unrooted software on a phone. (To be fair though, my previous phones were slow and had no recent updates, so using ROMs was necessary for good Android experience)
Yeah, I updated using the file on the Honor site. The phone told me about the tabs but no sign of them when I hit the square button. My Moto G is on 5.1 and they work fine there.
The Wifi/Bluetooth thing is the biggest problem with the device for me though.
@sado1
Let me google it for you if you are too lazy: lmgtfy.com/?q=honor+6+blue+spot
When you need more "credebilities" then look into Amazon reviews of the Honor 6. It's not a "faulty sunday model" or whatever, the Honor 6 itself is faulty. How can it be that so many same smartphones have the same failures? You can't see these failures in a quality check, if they happen in a random time. For one it's after a few weeks, for the other one it's after a year or more, but it definitely will happen some day. Similar problems are on smartphones like Sony Z1 and Samsung Galaxy 1 Plus for example (touchscreen problem, ghost touch while connected to power connector). Enough "credebility on my claims"?
@browser problems
I've got problems on my Honor 6 with videos often, when I try to watch a video over one of the browsers (Chrome, Firefox). First everything works like a charm and after 2 minutes or whatever the tab is broken and shows no video anymore. That happens on every browser. I have to reload the whole browser or open the video in a new tab then. Apps like Amazon Video or Youtube work like a charm.
@Xhemal1325
I won't suggest you any cheap smartphone, because you ever have a downside on that. You have to buy what you feel is good for you and if a cheap phone is good for you it is good for you. I suggest you to go into a smartphone shop and test every actual smartphone you can offer for nearly the same price, like Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo and stuff. As long as you are happy it's good. I only hope that you don't buy a Honor 6 and end up with the same problems some day. I personally won't suggest cheap and old smartphones and the Honor 6 was more an emergency buy than a well conceived buy, because I can buy the smartphones, where you clearly feel and see a difference between both worlds.
Should you buy an Honor 6 ?
If you are an Indian User: Yes, but you must know this is an end of life model....
If you are an European User: No
Since Lollipop, Indian model of H60-L04 (Honor 6) have 3 updates.
Beta selection for Marshmallow just started.
European Model: 0 updates since Lollipop (this also an H60-L04). And of course security flaws are'nt fixed !
No beta at this moment for the H60-L04, and no one knows when ....
From 12 mounts I have Honor 6 H60-L12. Bought from Aliexpress (China to Europe) (official china rom 5.1.1 manual applied, Battery 3 days regular use)
Good thinks:
No bad issue, work stable in any conditions.
EMUI 3.1 have similar to iphone interface for me it is really easy to jump between SMS Contacts Notes. I like it.
- Individual restriction to any installed app. When lock phone it stop app not permitted to work.
- Sensitive GPS, two independent SIM TX, IR with many many models for TVs DVDs STBs Air conditioners, built in Camera translation, have MHL, OTG.
Features not implemented:
- Double tap to start screen
- No Miracast only DLNA
- Some issue with connection to Kenwood car audio. Play music from speaker not from amplifier. Still try to clear it.
Low in plastic body - to soft - in back pocket of jeans it start to have curve shape.
Antutu (last) 51 387 pionts. HiSilicon Kirin 920 18 place CPU model. Very stable work.
Hope be in help.
i have the H60 L-04 with last oficial rom
i had a htc m8, oppo 7a, xiaomi mi4, letv x600
material are not premium, its plastic, but the phone is nice looking
fast and stable, i would prefer a clean android rom, but emui isnt bad at all
battery life is good
wifi is normal
sound is decent
screen is good
can´t complain...
I, like most of you, was waiting impatiently for this device for the past few weeks. I was given a retail model on Thursday early and wanted to let my thoughts after 48 hours.
I have to say I haven't been this disappointed in a phone in a while. While the phone is a looker, fundamentals are quite lacking.
Battery life - Same as the S7 and that's not a good thing. Has the same inconsistent issues of quick drains while running idle. As an example, was working on my house yesterday for roughly 4 hours and left the phone down with out being touched. Left it at 90% and came back at 74%. Again no usage. I have 3 other Android phones with more apps running and this doesn't happen except on Samsung. They will never change in this regard. Every year I have hope and get sucked into buying one. Same results.
Fingerprint sensor- I was one of the people that thought all the complaining was unwarranted about the fingerprint sensor placement. I thought this is just an issue for certain people with finger dexterity issues or just looking for something to complain about. Boy was I wrong. It's actually worse! It works maybe75% of the time and that is only using my right hand. Forget about the left hand.. way too awkward and difficult to do with one hand. At first, I thought no biggie, I'll just use face scanning or supplement with Iris scanning. Face scanning again is hit and miss and forget about Iris scanning if you are anywhere outside of bright light. I had the note 7 and that seemed to work a ton better. Maybe a software fix coming? Back to the fingerprint issue.. Samsung Pay doesn't even come preloaded on the phone! Why?!?! Because the NFC chip is on back so have fun using the sensor and holding it to a pay device. I was perplexed how this was a main selling point with the s and note series of last year and how it couldn't be preloaded. Hell it is on the gear S3. I used it 3 times yesterday at 3 different stores. I had to hold the phone upside down and the back facing the terminal. Picture that for a second... Holding your finger on a sensor which is located on the back and also having to have the back of the phone facing the CC reader at the same time. It's unreal. It's absolutely crazy that they threw this phone with the sensor placement at last minute and gathered...Oh yeah how are they going to use Pay? Ah just don't preload it and we won't get so many complaints. If you think I'm full of it.. go try it.
As mentioned with unlocking with the fingerprint, the new home button is virtually useless. I am trying to understand why they are trying to reinvent the wheel and not just use the tried and true method that every Android manufacturer has used for the past few years. It takes a ridiculous amount of time to unlock this phone. Too many steps.touch the side button or home button, wait for face unlock to work and if it doesn't then do finger gynastics with the fingerprint sensor. Seriously I wind up just using pattern after both fail. I use my V20 as my DD and it's 100% unlocking with the fingerprint on one touch Everytime. What the [email protected]#&$ were you thinking Samsung?
Audio - I love music and media and I am a wanna be audiophile. The headphone jack output and sound is no better than the S7. Lower output than most phones and music has a tight soundstage. Sound is tinny and missing elements you would hear on other high end phones. The Bluetooth audio is actually better but that was the same as the S7. It's nothing to write home about to be honest. I knew it wasn't going to be V20 quality but I was hoping for better with the akg tuning and Harmon partnership.Maybe those changes will come to the note 8?
Not all is bad with the phone, I love the screen and how I missed wireless charging! But there are fundamental ergonomic design issues that make this phone clumsy to use day to day. It's like you have to think to unlock it instead of it being second nature. People will see what I mean when they get their device. It feels like Samsung rushed again to market a product. I am praying that the note 8 is the next big thing.
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It feels like Samsung rushed again to market a product.
I am praying that the note 8 is the next big thing.
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How is this "rushed"? Samsung has had a full year since last year's Galaxy S7, and all the manufacturers have a team actually start working on the NEXT release before they launch the current one. So, OVER a year.
Are you suggesting Samsung do what Apple does? Release a new phone EVERY TWO YEARS? And then the ones in between are just to fix what they screwed up? iPhone 4S = iPhone 4 antenna fiasco fix.
And as for "big", the Notes are TOO big. I will never own a Note phablet.
Just giving my take. This phone is definitely not ready for prime time in my opinion. RAM management is also an issue I forgot to list but that has always been an issue with Samsung so nothing to see here on that. Knew that coming in. Just disappointed they didn't do much to address. Again these are my opinions.
Camera is definitely improved though... Sweet shots I'm getting.
Samsung pay didn't come preloaded in my Verizon S7 Edge, I had to download it. But I do see what you're saying about paying with your fingerprint. But I, myself, have the gear S3 so feel there's no need to use Samsung pay on my phone since the watch does it.
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Just giving my take. This phone is definitely not ready for prime time in my opinion. RAM management is also an issue I forgot to list but that has always been an issue with Samsung so nothing to see here on that. Knew that coming in. Just disappointed they didn't do much to address. Again these are my opinions.
Camera is definitely improved though... Sweet shots I'm getting.
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It may not be ready for Prime Time, but they had plenty of time. Any design failures is on Samsung -- their skill set, their design/manufacturing expertise.
Whereas "rushed" is like Google's 2016 Pixel with the HUGE bezels because Huawei turned them down for a Google Pixel phone with no manufacturer branding, and they had to go to HTC and use a re-purposed frame HTC already had -- and they only had 9 months to design/test/release a phone. THAT is "rushed". They couldn't even make it waterproof like they wanted because they ran out of time.
The Pixel and Pixel XL aren’t waterproof because Google ‘ran out of time’
http://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-xl-waterproof-724120/
According to Pierce, when he asked Google why its phone isn’t waterproof, its response was, rather simply: “We ran out of time”.
Pierce states that the development cycle for the smartphone was uncharacteristically short, reportedly “nine months and a week” from design to launch, as Google abandoned its original plans for the phone at the end of 2015.
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Samsung has no such excuses, unless you are just saying they are incompetent.
I completely agree hence why I sold my pixel months ago. I'm not saying other manufacturers aren't rushing either. Just making a note that Samsung is as well. Anyway.. my take as someone who has the phone already. Hoping software fixes some of the concerns. But that fingerprint sensor and Samsung pay is there to stay.
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Whereas "rushed" is like Google's 2016 Pixel with the HUGE bezels because Huawei turned them down for a Google Pixel phone with no manufacturer branding, and they had to go to HTC and use a re-purposed frame HTC already had
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Come on its a brand new design... http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8346&idPhone2=8297
Any phone coming out after the s8 and g6 with ugly ass bezels will be dead on arrival, lets see if htc has enough time to shrink those bezel's.
Re: Samsung pay, there are more than a few phones with rear fingerprint scanners and NFC chips that have been out for some time. I've never found this an issue nor have I heard complaints like this. As of right now the technology you're longing for (a front facing under the screen fingerprint scanner, since that's the only feasible alternative with the infinity display) simply hasn't been released. Unfortunately, the reality is it's these shortcomings that are debatably left out (intentionally?) to keep interest in the next iteration and keep overhead down. Hence why we never get the perfect smart phone. I'll you know when I get the device but I assume it's no different then the others: shiny, new, with some improvements, likely the best phone out, but still short of the perfect phone. (Never get too high of expectations, these companies are here to be profitable) I had the G6 all of 2 days before I was left unimpressed, hopefully that's not the case with the S8.
Oh well take my money. Thanks for the write up!
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Come on its a brand new design... http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8346&idPhone2=8297
Any phone coming out after the s8 and g6 with ugly ass bezels will be dead on arrival, lets see if htc has enough time to shrink those bezel's.
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HTC is screwed if the renditions/leaks are accurate. Still has same general design and big ol bezels
sillyphillie said:
I, like most of you, was waiting impatiently for this device for the past few weeks. I was given a retail model on Thursday early and wanted to let my thoughts after 48 hours.
I have to say I haven't been this disappointed in a phone in a while. While the phone is a looker, fundamentals are quite lacking.
Battery life - Same as the S7 and that's not a good thing. Has the same inconsistent issues of quick drains while running idle. As an example, was working on my house yesterday for roughly 4 hours and left the phone down with out being touched. Left it at 90% and came back at 74%. Again no usage. I have 3 other Android phones with more apps running and this doesn't happen except on Samsung. They will never change in this regard. Every year I have hope and get sucked into buying one. Same results.
Fingerprint sensor- I was one of the people that thought all the complaining was unwarranted about the fingerprint sensor placement. I thought this is just an issue for certain people with finger dexterity issues or just looking for something to complain about. Boy was I wrong. It's actually worse! It works maybe75% of the time and that is only using my right hand. Forget about the left hand.. way too awkward and difficult to do with one hand. At first, I thought no biggie, I'll just use face scanning or supplement with Iris scanning. Face scanning again is hit and miss and forget about Iris scanning if you are anywhere outside of bright light. I had the note 7 and that seemed to work a ton better. Maybe a software fix coming? Back to the fingerprint issue.. Samsung Pay doesn't even come preloaded on the phone! Why?!?! Because the NFC chip is on back so have fun using the sensor and holding it to a pay device. I was perplexed how this was a main selling point with the s and note series of last year and how it couldn't be preloaded. Hell it is on the gear S3. I used it 3 times yesterday at 3 different stores. I had to hold the phone upside down and the back facing the terminal. Picture that for a second... Holding your finger on a sensor which is located on the back and also having to have the back of the phone facing the CC reader at the same time. It's unreal. It's absolutely crazy that they threw this phone with the sensor placement at last minute and gathered...Oh yeah how are they going to use Pay? Ah just don't preload it and we won't get so many complaints. If you think I'm full of it.. go try it.
As mentioned with unlocking with the fingerprint, the new home button is virtually useless. I am trying to understand why they are trying to reinvent the wheel and not just use the tried and true method that every Android manufacturer has used for the past few years. It takes a ridiculous amount of time to unlock this phone. Too many steps.touch the side button or home button, wait for face unlock to work and if it doesn't then do finger gynastics with the fingerprint sensor. Seriously I wind up just using pattern after both fail. I use my V20 as my DD and it's 100% unlocking with the fingerprint on one touch Everytime. What the [email protected]#&$ were you thinking Samsung?
Audio - I love music and media and I am a wanna be audiophile. The headphone jack output and sound is no better than the S7. Lower output than most phones and music has a tight soundstage. Sound is tinny and missing elements you would hear on other high end phones. The Bluetooth audio is actually better but that was the same as the S7. It's nothing to write home about to be honest. I knew it wasn't going to be V20 quality but I was hoping for better with the akg tuning and Harmon partnership.Maybe those changes will come to the note 8?
Not all is bad with the phone, I love the screen and how I missed wireless charging! But there are fundamental ergonomic design issues that make this phone clumsy to use day to day. It's like you have to think to unlock it instead of it being second nature. People will see what I mean when they get their device. It feels like Samsung rushed again to market a product. I am praying that the note 8 is the next big thing.
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I have never used a fingerprint scanner or whatever on a phone, just good old passcode/pattern. It blows my mind people getting all uppity (no you, people in general) over a freaking unlock method to their phone. It's like a new Porsche/Mercedes and instead of talking about its performance people get all hung up on the palm sensor to unlock the door all the while they have the keys. Phones are all about the screen and apps, etc. Who gives a hoot about a stupid fingerprint sensor.
i plan to use samsung pay with Pin instead of fingerprint since it' on the back
Should we cancel our pre-orders then? I'd be more than happy to stick with my Note 4 than pay £55 a month for the next 2 years.
The funny thing about this bezel less design is I really think it's more beauty than function. Maybe it's the bezel less combined with the edge display but I feel less secure with this phone. I have a gs7 and lgv20 I keep referencing back to and when you are out and about the flat display lends to more secure in the hand feel. Maybe even more comfort.
Every year we hear how awesome a phone is from MWC through the first round of reviews. I'm really wanting to know what the consensus will be on this phone. The LG G6 was a darling when announced now the shine has come way off and people are finding out the size and feel are not what's it's cracked up to be. I'm going to give this phone more time and hope it grows on me.
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Should we cancel our pre-orders then? I'd be more than happy to stick with my Note 4 than pay £55 a month for the next 2 years.
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everyone's got a different opinion... i am still happy to proceed with my s8 plus, and keep in mind... these folks complainin abt battery life are the US models running SD... and we've got exynos
Is Exnos a more thrifty battery chip?
I will get the EU model in any case.
I have a Moto Z Play at the moment and as much as I like it, it is still on Oreo and is not up to date security-wise, which is a worry for me.
I was very set on a Pixel 3a which I can get for £299 with a £50 mastercard giftcard as a freebie. I have since seen a few posts on forums saying they get really slow after a few months and lag a lot, which is strange because my Moto Z Play still mostly performs fine, bit for stutter, but for a cheap phone it is fine.
I am wondering if I wait for the 4a to come out and spend maybe £400/£429 (whatever they price it at) for that, or just get the 3a, with the view that if I don't like it, I can return it in the first 2 weeks.
I don't really want to spend £400 on a phone ideally, as I don't really see the point.
Could some users of the 3a for a while give me some idea of how it performs after time?
I use my phone for YouTube, Chrome, Netflix, new apps and emails. Never play games on my phone unless it is a basic casual one that i'll play for 10 minutes and then delete.
(I know the new iPhone SE is out for £419 and will be worlds better than both of the Pixels' but I prefer Android overall and would rather not be locked to iOS.)
I'd appreciate any help, thanks
Edit - Just an insight in my phone history... i did have a OnePlus 6 for a while, but decided I preferred the Moto Z Play, so I sold the OP6. The performance difference didn't bother me and with my usage, didn't seem very noticeable. I just want mostly smooth and reliable.
Hello,
I've had mine for about 10 weeks now and I couldn't be happier with it - came from almost exclusively Samsung S range (3,4,5,7) and a moto x style in there as well.
'pure' android is a delight to behold. Still quick and responsive - boot time is about 2 seconds slower than when it was brand new. I've just checked and I currently have nearly 80 apps installed so that's to be expected.
It's a bit like a car/bike/desktop/whatever in that occasional maintenance is your friend ? I use Ccleaner and Greenify paid version. Rooted, EXKernel Manager, no twrp as on android 10 and it doesn't work on 10 yet. Took a little bit of adjustment to not having twrp as I liked to take a weekly backup but no big deal in the grand scheme of things - I'm still in love with the 'pure' android experience and not having all the extra **** bundled in from Samsung.
Few advisories I'd point out is that: I would have bought a 3XL if I could have afforded one, and the modding scene is pretty quiet but I have gathered 2 main learnings on that. Firstly, that'll probably change when the twrp devs get it up and running on android 10, and B, there is actually very little need to mod as the 'pure' android is just lovely as it is.
I've had no errors, no restarts/bootloops etc and re-rooting after updates is simple. I get a day battery no probs with moderate use, no games and using EXKernel Manager to alternate between Performance and Power saving settings as required. Camera is lovely. Wired headphone volume is a bit quiet but stick Viper4android on it and problem solved.
Happy to answer the odd question or 2 if you have any ?
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Hello,
I've had mine for about 10 weeks now and I couldn't be happier with it - came from almost exclusively Samsung S range (3,4,5,7) and a moto x style in there as well.
'pure' android is a delight to behold. Still quick and responsive - boot time is about 2 seconds slower than when it was brand new. I've just checked and I currently have nearly 80 apps installed so that's to be expected.
It's a bit like a car/bike/desktop/whatever in that occasional maintenance is your friend I use Ccleaner and Greenify paid version. Rooted, EXKernel Manager, no twrp as on android 10 and it doesn't work on 10 yet. Took a little bit of adjustment to not having twrp as I liked to take a weekly backup but no big deal in the grand scheme of things - I'm still in love with the 'pure' android experience and not having all the extra **** bundled in from Samsung.
Few advisories I'd point out is that: I would have bought a 3XL if I could have afforded one, and the modding scene is pretty quiet but I have gathered 2 main learnings on that. Firstly, that'll probably change when the twrp devs get it up and running on android 10, and B, there is actually very little need to mod as the 'pure' android is just lovely as it is.
I've had no errors, no restarts/bootloops etc and re-rooting after updates is simple. I get a day battery no probs with moderate use, no games and using EXKernel Manager to alternate between Performance and Power saving settings as required. Camera is lovely. Wired headphone volume is a bit quiet but stick Viper4android on it and problem solved.
Happy to answer the odd question or 2 if you have any
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Thanks for that.
Would you say it has gotten any slower after 2+ months?
Most of the reports I have read have said that it lags on the keyboard a lot and lags a lot in general. I wouldn't expect flagship performance, but I do want something that is mostly smooth and will browse the web without being a stuttery mess all the time.
Nah no lag for me but I use a 3rd party keyboard (SwiftKey) instead of Gboard. I use a lot of voice recognition for typing as well as the on screen keyboard.
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For Internet I mostly use Opera mini and AdAway and my browsing is fine
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Nah no lag for me but I use a 3rd party keyboard (SwiftKey) instead of Gboard. I use a lot of voice recognition for typing as well as the on screen keyboard.
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For Internet I mostly use Opera mini and AdAway and my browsing is fine
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Decided to just order one. It'll arrive tomorrow. If I don't like it I have 2 weeks to return it.
Best way to decide if it is any good for me is to use it!
Indeed that's what I did as well, let us know how you get on ?
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Decided to just order one. It'll arrive tomorrow. If I don't like it I have 2 weeks to return it.
Best way to decide if it is any good for me is to use it!
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I've had a 3a since I got rid of the 3 XL in December. I don't notice any slowdowns or performance difference even with games to the 3 XL I had. I take care of my devices though and remove unused apps and keep caches/storage clear as needed. Cloud storage is your friend. Most ppl just install dozens of apps and games and complain their device got slow but don't actually maintain their device. If you maintain your device it will perform well for you. I also get in the habit of factory resetting devices once or twice a year to freshen them up it literally takes 10 minutes if you keep backups of apps and data.
I personally think the 4a will be the better choice in the long run if you intend keeping your phone for a while, that being said the Pixel 3a is still a great phone I got rid of my Samsung S10e couple of weeks ago & picked up another Pixel 3a & i have no regrets at all coming back & downgrading somewhat spec wise, I still may pickup a 4a when the deals are on at some point later this year.
Also the release of the iPhone SE 2020 could be a good thing for future deals on the Pixel 4a.
Got the 3a with me now.
So far, so good! An added bonus is that it has WiFi calling, which I thought it did not.
Display is nice, size is good. Feels nice without a case on, but not sure I'm brave enough to run it without a case!
Speed seems fine, smooth and quick enough for me so far
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I'm a Sony fanboy, have nearly all flagships since 2011 here, more or less good maintained with custom fws, i donated devices to devs here at xda, i'm a supporter.
My provider offers me to get a Pixel 3A or a Pixel 4 when i extend my contract for 2 years, the Pixel 3A would cost 11,50 € per month, the Pixel 4 20,00 €, in both cases the the mobile belongs to me after this 24 additional months. I really dunno how to decide, i read and read and read about the pros and cons, the results are all the same - take the 3A, says the tests and suggestions in the www. I'm not a gamer, no facebook, taking not much photos, not involved in social networks, i need pure functionality, navigation, good battery life, playing only CoC, NFS no Limits. The only advantage in the Pixel 4 which i see - it is newer. It's really hard for me to decide - any opinions are welcome. Thanks in advance. At least the fact that i dont really NEED a new phone, my 2 daily drivers are an Xperia Z3 and an S5Neo, both active ( private and business device ) with LOS 16 rock stable, smooth and fast systems. LOS 17.1 is coming for these 2 devices, i think with official status too.
So, that's all, please enlighten me.
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Well, whereas I am quite happy with my 3a, my rule for buying (any) tech stuff is to but the best that you can afford at the time. I got my 3a cos it was the best I could afford at the time but if I'd had the money, I would have gotten a 3xl or a 4. Sorry if this isn't helpful, just thought I'd share a bit of my process. I guess the conclusion would be if you can afford the 4, then get the 4
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Got the 3a with me now.
So far, so good! An added bonus is that it has WiFi calling, which I thought it did not.
Display is nice, size is good. Feels nice without a case on, but not sure I'm brave enough to run it without a case!
Speed seems fine, smooth and quick enough for me so far
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Glad you like it, I prefer to have mine in a case as well (clumsy) so I just got a gel tpd case and screen protector on ebay. Screen protector covers the entire front including the bezels. It's done a stellar job so far - I keep lots of stuff in my pockets and there isn't so much as a scuff on my phone if you'd like I might be able to link the screen protector if I can find it in my ebay history ?
Link to screen protector:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143284267215
I have a caseology parralax case and a generic glass screen protector now, feels much safer!
So far the battery life on this is incredible, took it off the charger at 8pm Sunday evening, I still have 45% left at 3 hours of SOT.
That's will very weak/no reception for a lot of that too.
Given how small the battery is, it's really quite impressive
Really impressed with this phone so far.
The only issue I am having with my 3a is that I have always used Messenger lite (Facebook) for my messaging app. For some reason, a lot of the time the notifications don't show up after the phone has been locked for a while, until I go into the phone and it picks it up or sometimes until I go into the app.
I have notifications turned on and see no reason for them not to always come through and be visible on the lockscreen. Is this just the Doze feature being a bit too aggressive?
Ah I can't answer that, sorry. I use greenify to sleep my apps, including
social media apps. I only want to use them when I want to use them, you know?
So mine stay asleep until I open them manually.
That is okay. It doesn't do it all the time, I think it's mostly when the phones been sat idle for a while.
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Well, whereas I am quite happy with my 3a, my rule for buying (any) tech stuff is to but the best that you can afford at the time. I got my 3a cos it was the best I could afford at the time but if I'd had the money, I would have gotten a 3xl or a 4. Sorry if this isn't helpful, just thought I'd share a bit of my process. I guess the conclusion would be if you can afford the 4, then get the 4
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Thanks. And believe me, your post IS helpfull.
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The only issue I am having with my 3a is that I have always used Messenger lite (Facebook) for my messaging app. For some reason, a lot of the time the notifications don't show up after the phone has been locked for a while, until I go into the phone and it picks it up or sometimes until I go into the app.
I have notifications turned on and see no reason for them not to always come through and be visible on the lockscreen. Is this just the Doze feature being a bit too aggressive?
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You can exclude the fb messanger app from doze (battery optimization) in settings, its in apps and notifications -> special app access, in batter optimization choose to ahow all apps.
Maybe that helps. But could also be an fb bug.
Cheers. Glad you like that phone, for ne it's the best phone i ever had, it just works.
For some reason this second charge has started off worse. I suppose it'll take a few days to fully settle and let the adaptive battery feature set up.
gman88667733 said:
Got the 3a with me now.
So far, so good! An added bonus is that it has WiFi calling, which I thought it did not.
Display is nice, size is good. Feels nice without a case on, but not sure I'm brave enough to run it without a case!
Speed seems fine, smooth and quick enough for me so far
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The only issue I am having with my 3a is that I have always used Messenger lite (Facebook) for my messaging app. For some reason, a lot of the time the notifications don't show up after the phone has been locked for a while, until I go into the phone and it picks it up or sometimes until I go into the app.
I have notifications turned on and see no reason for them not to always come through and be visible on the lockscreen. Is this just the Doze feature being a bit too aggressive?
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For some reason this second charge has started off worse. I suppose it'll take a few days to fully settle and let the adaptive battery feature set up.
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It will settle in a day or 2, youve got to remember that in the first few days of a new toy there's all the setting up/copying data/etc as well but the battery will learn your normal usage. Here's a screen grab from my Better Battery Stats, it's a pretty good %pH.
The annoying thing currently is that I've just changed my bedroom in my house, there is currently no cell or WiFi reception in it, so it dropped 15% last night because it was searching for them all night. Hoping to sort the WiFi in a few days
I have had this device since launch in January 2019. I just wanted to see how everyone is finding it long term really.
Personally I have no complaints. It is so good. In pretty much every aspect. Almost the perfect device I would say. Battery life is still a champ almost 2 years later. Performance is top notch. No slowdowns at all. Ram management and multitasking is very good (as long as you turn off the auto app launch management that is). Screen is awesome. Best LCD I have used as far as I can recall.
Android 10 updated. Design is fantastic. It was the OG pinch hole all screen display I remember, which was the reason I picked it up initially at launch.
I am so surprised how well it has held up. I have tried multiple devices since. Huawei mate 20x and pixel 4A, my old iPhone 7 and galaxy s8. All have only reinforced how good the V20 is. I always go back to it.
I just got the pixel 4A this week and using that back and forth with the v20 now. If I had to get rid of one it would be the pixel. But fortunately I don't have to, so will keep both.
Just wanted to give my thoughts on very long term use really. I have used the v20 every single day bar a week or two over the last 22 months. It is so good.
Such a shame this Huawei / Honor trade ban and how it is affecting Google services on their newer devices. Huawei make some incredible devices. Thankfully the v20 is not affected.
Hey man,
I've got the view20 in march/April of 2019 and it has been amazing. I really enjoy the camera and night mode, which has prevented my from buying any new phone. Also the new features that came with magic UI 3 (swipe bottom left to right for app switching) has made it more current. Agreed the punch hole means the phone still looks on top of trend. Unfortunately I don't enjoy the size and weight of the phone as I prefer smaller phones and the 12 mini is tempting but I genuinely picked the view 20 for the long lasting LCD screen.
All around great phone!
Yep it is fantastic device. Cannot overstate in anyway how good it is.
I agree about the size, though it does not bother me as much. It is a big as I would probably go for big phones I've realised.
I'm also leaning more towards smaller devices nowadays. Funny you mention the 12 mini. I've also been looking at it but not too sure on the battery life. Seems a small cell which is the norm for apple. Besides I am enjoying the Pixel 4A quite a bit at the moment. It is a lot of fun using both a small and big phone. You really see the differences and appreciate both for different reasons. Especially when both perform extremely well in almost all areas.
It's the end of an era.... Well maybe not quite as dramatic! I've made the very hard decision to let my V20 go. Decided to go full on with the smaller form factor going forward. iPhone 12 mini and pixel 4a! I can only hope they stand the test of time somewhere close to the v20. They both have a tough act to follow for sure. This had been easily the best all around smartphone I've ever used. Cannot fault it at all. It's just my compulsive need to change smartphones which has lead me to move on. If anyone is considering a v20 going forward, take it from someone who has used the life out of this thing for almost two years, it is a champ! In every department. Stands the test of time unlike any other phone I've used before. Battery and performance still incredible now.
Bought April 2019, in the Middle East. And used in the UK and globally (in the old days when we had flying machines)
To date, I cannot fault the hardware. The 8 GB Ram and 256 storage are more than enough for my needs. Battery lasts for up to 2+day, or 36 hours when I've done an all night shift. Continues to perform well well and fantastic feature set like app twinning and privatr6area. No performance issues and updates are timely
I have reviewed several alternatives primarily keeping an eye on the Samsung Note line. I cannot see any reason to justify the cost of the moving to £1000+ phone ant see any difference.
The critical factor will be suport for Google Apps. If/ when that is lost, then time to move on compatability is critical.
There are rumours Huawei will spin of Honer, which would be great, but not sure the timescales will be favorable to the survival of my phone.
Annoying, as the primary reason for.th Huawei sanctions are commercial, (give US companies a lead. In 5g). But. The knock oon might be a 3rd global player in the mobile OS space. That won't be good for Google, security or quality of apps available to all parties.
Just to let you know, Android 11 support has been added with Magic UI 4.0
So late 2020 seems to be a good year!
Did you get the update already?
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Did you get the update already?
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No but I can see it in firmware finder, depends on what region you are in for me it's still not approved
Good to see you guys still enjoying this fantastic device. I'm back again with another Huawei...lol. got the P30. Very similar to the v20 I think. Main difference is just the display is oled. I do really like Huawei / Honor devices. I heard Honor is being sold off. Don't know if that's a good thing or not yet. But for sure the V20 is the business.
Hey what happened with the 12 mini? I've been thinking of getting bit but worried about battery life. The honor is just too big for me but does everything right, so reluctant to change
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Hey what happened with the 12 mini? I've been thinking of getting bit but worried about battery life. The honor is just too big for me but does everything right, so reluctant to change
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I still have the 12 mini. It is my main device. Battery for me is very very good. No exaggeration. I don't play any graphically intense games though so bear that in mind.
I easily make it through the day and then some. Over 4 hours screen on time comfortably. I don't know how they are doing it with a 2200 cell really. I also turn off 5G. So only 4G in use. I don't know again how much of a difference that makes. But as long as you are not a big gamer into graphically intense games, I think you will be very happy and pleasantly surprised with the mini's battery.
I also been using the mate 30 as secondary device. Again, very very nice.
Do I miss the V20? In all honesty sometimes yes. It is such a great phone. Just about the only thing I would have added would have been an IP rating perhaps. And that's just nitpicking... Everything else fantastic. But wanted a smaller one handed device for now.