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Hello everyone!
I was just wondering between these two apps...
Which one works better for you and if will be great if you can share your configuration!!
Also, does anyone knows is any of these two disable whatsapp and gmail notifications?
Many thanks for sharing!
Cheers!
IMHO
I can answer about Green Power Premium:
It doesn't have such option like disable notifications. He does such thing like disables data connection for amount of time you chose (for me it is 15min) and then enables data connection for amount of time you choose (for me it is 2min)
Now my Galaxy Note works 2 times longer (from 10h to 20h)
katinsh said:
I can answer about Green Power Premium:
It doesn't have such option like disable notifications. He does such thing like disables data connection for amount of time you chose (for me it is 15min) and then enables data connection for amount of time you choose (for me it is 2min)
Now my Galaxy Note works 2 times longer (from 10h to 20h)
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WOW! double time!!
thanks for sharing!
I have been trying both, and while both of them seem to deliver a noticeable reduction in power draw (actually in my case a dramatic reduction), of the two I'd have to give my vote to GreenPower (I'm using the full version). The power reduction is at least as good as Juice Defender Ultimate, and the premium version is significantly cheaper.
Both work by turning various features (mainly Wi-fi/3g/BlueTooth) on and off automatically, but as result can cause delays in things like receiving push-mail and that kind of thing. With Juice-Defender I found this to be quite noticeable, but I'd have to say that with Green-Power I haven't really noticed it slowing down messaging or anything else.......
I've used them both - and deleted them both. I'd rather manage power myself.
i am using 2x Battery for me this is the best. simple and clean.
I usually use JuiceDefender but decided to try out Green Power. I really like it but I have a hard time getting my phone to sleep properly on GP.
i use widgetsoid and just enable my connection when i want it (wifi/3g)
i could never find the proper app that did exactly what i wanted- rather just have control.
going that was and using the phone an average amount my battery goes from 100 -> 75 from the time i wake up (7am) to the time i got to bed (12-1 am)
the 2500mah battery is pretty good!
With JuiceDefender I can get my phone to sleep 95%+ of the time but with GreenPower, my cpu is only sleep 40%+. Can anyone give me tips to get my cpu to sleep more to preserve battery?
katinsh said:
I can answer about Green Power Premium:
It doesn't have such option like disable notifications. He does such thing like disables data connection for amount of time you chose (for me it is 15min) and then enables data connection for amount of time you choose (for me it is 2min)
Now my Galaxy Note works 2 times longer (from 10h to 20h)
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Just out of interest, what happens when you browse the web and GreenPower has turned off the Data Connection?
Or you're watching a youtube video and it decides its time to turn off data?
Tried both versions and found green power premium to work better for me. (Price was a good point too.)
However the next day I found that if I left my phone for a while (Around 1 1/2 to 2 hours), the display would not turn on and If I called the phone it would not ring. Only way to fix this was to press the power button for 10 seconds to reset the phone.
Uninstalled green power to see if this was the cause and hasn't happened since.
Was wondering if something similar has happened to other people?
I had to go back to JuiceDefender since I couldn't get my phone to go into deep sleep with GreenPower.
Hi, i went for Green Power. I found it simpler to configure, more focused on the job. Juice Defender has to much possible settings and complexity, this makes it a great tool but might also lead to poor efficiency.
I have never used green power before but im on juice defender. I have experienced auto turn off by the note due to a set cpu settings that govern lower clock to cpu at a certain condition. Due to the big display on note i think lower cpu clock wont do it. Because of that the device turned off itself. Upon failure to operate. Hope this solves your problem
I have tried JuiceDefender but ultimately prefer to do everything manually. Some how I always feel the auto manage apps will have everything off precisely when you need it. I use the SwitchPro widget to quickly enable/disable the various radios from my home screen and it works great.
@ Aldragor
I have/had the same problem. In the beginning I thought that my launcher would be the cause for this problem, but after I disabled my Green Power Premium it hasn't happend since now.
Juice defender ultimate, the feature of switching 2g 3g on stock ROM alone was worth the price!
After figuring out how to config GreenPower properly, I went back to it.
I used JuiceDefender and thought it was great.... when it worked. However, I used it mostly as a scheduler with about 15% battery saving which I took as the icing on the cake.
I want all connections on during the day (peak) so I can take skype calls, etc.. When I'm home, I just want to periodically check for mails, etc (so have connection enable every 15min) and when I go to bed I don't want to be disturbed by emails, messages, etc but still want phone/sms on in case there is an emergency. And most of all, I didn't want to have to manually do that every day.
Problem was that it never really stuck to the schedules. This was the ultimate version but it was a crack as they never offered the ultimate on a trial. I wanted to evaluate the ultimate and buy if it did the job. So, it might have been a bad crack which caused the problem, but I guess I'll never know as I don't want to risk wasting the money if the schedule problem persists.
I am a lover of juice, it keeps he juice in and right
Just a question for those who having the same problem with me, please share your opinion.
Green power premium vs JuiceDefender Ultimate vs Power Max
i'm stuck on this 3, any of you have better idea which is the best for battery?
i tried JuiceDefender Ultimate before and i'm not really satisfied with the result. Please note, i'm running Exchange email for daily use and required data connections.
thehackersz said:
Just a question for those who having the same problem with me, please share your opinion.
Green power premium vs JuiceDefender Ultimate vs Power Max
i'm stuck on this 3, any of you have better idea which is the best for battery?
i tried JuiceDefender Ultimate before and i'm not really satisfied with the result. Please note, i'm running Exchange email for daily use and required data connections.
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Don't use any of them. They all consume your battery.
Try this:
Set your display brightness to auto or dimmest. This usually consume the most of your battery.
Download a data switch widget or toggle from the market. I use the dataswitch from tomatoX. Turn off your background data when you dont use it. Turn it off at night or sleeping.
Turn off your gps or wifi when you dont use it.
If you are rooted, you can also edit your build.prop wifi scan intervals to higher number (for ex: 120)
You will find by applying some of these changes, you will extend your battery life.
have fun
I also find that using ROM Toolbox to Disable some apps that start up on boot helps too. Google Maps is a battery killer for me (at least thats what I find) it seemed to start up on boot and eat all my battery so I disabled it.
You might find disabling a few more useless apps helps too.
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Don't use any of them. They all consume your battery.
Try this:
Set your display brightness to auto or dimmest. This usually consume the most of your battery.
Download a data switch widget or toggle from the market. I use the dataswitch from tomatoX. Turn off your background data when you dont use it. Turn it off at night or sleeping.
Turn off your gps or wifi when you dont use it.
If you are rooted, you can also edit your build.prop wifi scan intervals to higher number (for ex: 120)
You will find by applying some of these changes, you will extend your battery life.
have fun
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Just curious if you've actually tried these for yourself or if you're just quoting "common knowledge"? The reason I say this is I've been using Green power for about 6 months now and it gives me a noticable improvement in battery life. Yes, I know I can manually turn off wifi and/or data when i know I won't need it, but green power does that for me automatically. I tried juicedefender for a little and didn't really like it, and I've never used the third choice. Green Power has the best free option that I've seen, it gives you full functionality while Juicedefender free is a limited function app. And if you're wondering yes I've tested my phone both with and without green power enabled, several times. Each time results are the same, at least a few hours extra time at worst and at best it's nearly doubled my usage time.
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Just curious if you've actually tried these for yourself or if you're just quoting "common knowledge"? The reason I say this is I've been using Green power for about 6 months now and it gives me a noticable improvement in battery life. Yes, I know I can manually turn off wifi and/or data when i know I won't need it, but green power does that for me automatically. I tried juicedefender for a little and didn't really like it, and I've never used the third choice. Green Power has the best free option that I've seen, it gives you full functionality while Juicedefender free is a limited function app. And if you're wondering yes I've tested my phone both with and without green power enabled, several times. Each time results are the same, at least a few hours extra time at worst and at best it's nearly doubled my usage time.
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Here was my original post...I do use it daily
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19925664&postcount=26.
recheck the thread.
Not really sure what you're saying to me? You give good suggestions in you're first post, my point is that using green power will do all that for you automatically and definitely does not use more battery power.
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Not really sure what you're saying to me? You give good suggestions in you're first post, my point is that using green power will do all that for you automatically and definitely does not use more battery power.
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if that works for you, then that's fine.
green power is loaded into memory and may actually consume battery as it is running in the back ground.
my point is that many programs with data syncs are unknowingly shorten your usage per charge.
turn off your back ground data..saves data and battery usage.
try this: use your green power for a few days..see how long it lasts
then try the dataswitch on the green power and without the green power and see what it does...
carry a spare battery also works
As some of you have been complaining about your Infinity's poor battery life, I thought we should start a thread on getting more out of its battery. I invite you all to share your experiences, hopefully we could come to sth helpful together.
Perhaps when the development's carried on further by more XDA developers, we can split this to stock ROM and custom ROMs, as probably the latter will have more of these already included.
1. Arguably full charge and discharge does nothing good on modern Li-Ion batteries and it's rather advisable to keep it balanced - discharge a little, don't push it with charging all the time (however in case of the Infinity, as with many other devices, the charger will just stop consuming energy after [almost] fully charging your device). There is one reason for doing a few full discharges and charges however - so that the battery monitoring apps/widgets can learn more about your battery's life and power consumption.
2. Monitor your battery life and monitor it wisely (don't use power-consuming apps and widgets). I personally like Battery Monitor Widget, as it gives you mA and % / hour (either drain or charge), which is pretty cool, as you can see how much your usage exhausts your battery in real time. This way I've found out that switching the WiFi off while reading books actually gives me battery drain closer to 10%/h than 15%/h etc. You can see some other in this apps thread. Try different apps and see what fits you best. Don't rely on system battery usage stats, see what other apps show us and what apps and processes drain the most of your battery, show most wakelocks, etc.
3. Use as low power mode as you need (administered most easily through ASUS/Android notification bar on the bottom of your screen). There are three power modes:
power-saving (keeps your CPU at 1 GHz according to some apps, 500 MHz according to others) <- can give you up to 2 additional hours
balanced (keeps your CPU at 1,5 GHz)
normal / performance (keeps your CPU at the highest speed - in stock kernel 1,7 GHz for the 1st core and 1,6 for the others)
You have to try these for yourself. Most games run well on balanced, but may sometimes need the performance mode (keep in mind that overheating your CPU and GPU may cause the clocks to actually slow down). You may also find yourself happy with the power-saving mode, which really helps your battery to last longer, but I've noticed issues with some apps while running it (problems with pdf rendering, for example), as it probably changes more than just the CPU clock speed, but also the system behaviour. I hardly ever leave the balanced mode, mostly when curious about benchmark results
There are also different CPU governors in Android/Linux kernel, which you can change if you are rooted, but perhaps leaving the default "interactive" one on should serve you well (you can also try "conservative", but it has been argued it doesn't save your battery so well in the long run).
(if rooted) You can also use CPU management apps like SetCPU, create your custom profiles or use the default ones according to your needs (for example ).
4. In ASUS setttings switch on both power-saving options at the very bottom of the list (WiFi and dock deep sleep [the former is the same as choosing "never" in WiFi advanced settings]).
5. Keep the screen brightness as low, as you can. It's better to adjust it manually through the notifications bar or a widget than to switch auto-brightness on (some recommend LUX app, personally I had problems with it trying to outsmart me when I was doing some manual changes). I like to keep it around 30-40% indoors during the day and 0-10% at night.
6. Switch WiFi off when you don't need it, unless you need it on constantly.
For me, it sometimes also helps organise my work too, when I don't get constant notifications or when I'm not eager to browse the web all the time, when just reading something and taking notes.
7a) (if rooted) Make your device fall into really deep sleep...
Add these to your build.prop file (see the thread on tweaking):
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
pm.sleep_mode=1
7b) ...and make it scan for available WiFi networks less often, for example every 180 seconds (same as above):
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180
8. (if rooted) Switch off all the apps you don't need that auto-start on boot with a program like System Tuner.
(f not rooted) Use auto-killer for the apps you don't need (if rooted you can do the above two together as well).
You can also deactivate unused apps (settings -> apps -> [select app] -> deactivate). Remove bloatware, too (see the first few posts).
9. Adjust your minfree values, so the low level system task killer will take care of the apps running in the background for you (see the thread on tweaking). You can try with different settings and see what's better for you. Some apps drain your battery life even when you don't use them, while others don't and it's better to leave them in the memory than run them all over again every time. Do some tests and see what's best for you, if you have time for it.
10. Switch auto-syncing apps to lower values when possible (sometimes PUSH is better, sometimes worse for your battery life).
11. Keep it simple. Too many funky animations, floating wallpapers, lots of nice widgets will make your battery drain really fast.
12. Try different custom launchers, you can set more UI behaviour rules in these (see this apps thread).
13. Use a dark wallpaper and dark themes / night reading modes (see why).
PS JuiceDefender reported to having disabled deep sleep, so stay away if possible.
Hotmail app has been said to trigger wakelocks, while overriding system wifi sleep when screen is off, so keep that in mind if you want better battery life over constant e-mail syncing.
Hit [THANKS] if it helps.
First of all, thanks to d14b0ll0s for yet another great write up. I am one of those concerned with the battery life of the Infinity. Though some review says it got up to 9-9.5 hours with BALANCED mode I believe is the mistake. By using Power save mode, I think we can potentially get to that level but still hard.
My system is NOT rooted, but I have noticed significant change in my battery life so far with following:
1. Balanced Mode to Power Save mode.
This gets me like extra 2 hours or so. WIthout this change, 5-6 hours for my usage and with this it goes up to 7-8 hours screen time.
2. Under Wi-Fi Setting change Use wifi during sleep mode (mine is in Japanese so exact wording may be different) to never. Default setting was always. Prior to this change, I lost quite bit overnight unplugged; however, after the change it loses negligible amount.
Now rather than these, I am trying to play around with Juice Defender, which was recommended by d14b0ll0s in best application list he created. I have initially downloaded Juice Defender Free edition, and noticed may be minimal gain over #1 already instituted. But concept was great. So I ended up purchasing Ultimate edition, which allows us to control when to turn of WIFI per individual application based without Root i.e. while reading PDF I don't think I need WIFI connection.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=juice+defender&c=apps.
I am still tweaking and playing with Juice Defender, but I am certain without change in #1,#2 (which are actually taken care by Juice Defender in its own way), I can gain same battery life and my hope/guess is I can get even more battery life.
So in conclusion, for those not rooted try Juice Defender (at least free version). I will let you all know how the ultimate version does in next couple days.
Thanks for this! ^^ Post 1 updated.
Have you noticed what power-saving mode changes apart from CPU (& GPU?) clock speed? Does it change auto-sync settings or unload some modules? I'm not using it, as it is too slow for me to render big pdfs consisting of scanned jpgs. But when I'm reading them with WiFi off on balanced, I normally get 9.9% drain per hour according to Battery Monitor Widget, which even with some other things that I do from time to time and some additional rendering when opening new files should give me about 9 hours on a single charge. Browsing over WiFi gives me about 7.
The Wi-Fi settings you mentioned are the same as WiFi power-saving settings on the bottom of ASUS setting list, but I've clarified that in post 1 now.
I'm happy JuiceDefender helped you, it's good to advertise it here. I'm adding the info about your post apart from the link to the list of apps.
Thanks
I would also add that it's good the deactivate unused apps/widgets (settings -> apps -> "select app" -> deactivate)
it's only possible for apps which cannot be uninstalled
Good point! ^ Added (-> p. 8).
Mine will be here this weekend.
Thanks d14b0ll0s
Look very useful! I'm about to try.
I think the standby time is awesome. Wifi off, power save mode enabled and left the tablet over night right after full charged battery w/o dock. After 10h still 100%.
Ali I Hagen said:
I think the standby time is awesome. Wifi off, power save mode enabled and left the tablet over night right after full charged battery w/o dock. After 10h still 100%.
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#nice
The system measuring system isn't exact, and early on so are all the indicators, so don't rely on it too heavily. There may be a variance of 1-3% and a lot more in the usage indicators. Try different battery / apps widgets and compare the results.
Anyway, deep sleep is nice indeed. It normally drains about 0.2% (-0,5%) per hour, mine is now 98% after the night off the charger and responding to a few e-mails in bed
Thanks for the info, it's appreciated.
Antutu's Battery Saver worked great on my 101, I'm observing how it will regulate the power drain on my 700. Hopefully it will keep the back of the tab cool as well.
i think the problem is when you have wifi on!
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I think the standby time is awesome. Wifi off, power save mode enabled and left the tablet over night right after full charged battery w/o dock. After 10h still 100%.
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this is good when you have wifi off. however, when you have the wifi on, it shows 80% wifi and 20% screen consumed by battery. you can stop network access by disabling wifi from Asus customized settings and also in wifi setting, you can keep wifi on during sleep to NEVER. this helps a lot..
Stock battery (usage) stats are not relevant, use other battery apps or widgets for that.
I've heard good things about AnTuTu's bat.sav., but also that it doesn't let you have more insight into what it's actually doing, so JuiceDefender seems a better option in that matter.
d14b0ll0s:
Do you know the specific voltage setting / configurations coming out of the usb line?
Is it 16V and how does it distinguish between 16V and 5V on the single USB cable.
For example does the voltage cable go on different lines for 16V and 5V for the TF700?
Or is it 16/5V dual switchable on the same power cable?
I'm asking this is because there's interest to charge the tablet by using alternative methods such as mobile battery with 16V setting.
If so, then does a DC to USB cable be suffice for the job? Or is the cable wired differently as proprietary ASUS?
Thanks!
Sorry, I wouldn't know that. There some ppl here that are doing some testing with the batteries and hardware, perhaps the_kreature or MartyHulskemper could know something. You should post it as a thread in Q&A too.
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d14b0ll0s:
Do you know the specific voltage setting / configurations coming out of the usb line?
Is it 16V and how does it distinguish between 16V and 5V on the single USB cable.
For example does the voltage cable go on different lines for 16V and 5V for the TF700?
Or is it 16/5V dual switchable on the same power cable?
I'm asking this is because there's interest to charge the tablet by using alternative methods such as mobile battery with 16V setting.
If so, then does a DC to USB cable be suffice for the job? Or is the cable wired differently as proprietary ASUS?
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First of all, the charger gives 15V, not 16V. Avoid giving your tablet too much voltage as that can kill it...
Secondly, the included cable is a USB 3.0 cable and therefore has 5 extra pins (you can see them if you look straight into the USB plug). These extra pins are used to get 15V from the charger. I don't know exactly how that works, but I guess the tablet tells the charger it wants 15V over the power lines (same power lines as 5V) rather than the charger giving 15V over these extra pins (because that could be devastating to other USB 3.0 gadgets). This is why the tablet won't charge if you insert an old (USB 1.0 or 2.0) extension cable between the charger and the tablet.
Hey I'm running with wifi on during sleep and I seem to get great battery performance (2% loss over 11 hr standby). No build.pro tweaks so no deep asleep our anything like that. I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten similar performance?
I thought it was interesting because the results were the opposite on my tf300t, and my usage pattern hasn't changed much between the two devices.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
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Hey I'm running with wifi on during sleep and I seem to get great battery performance (2% loss over 11 hr standby). No build.pro tweaks so no deep asleep our anything like that. I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten similar performance?
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Same here. Battery life on deep sleep with WLAN is great!
But I think the Infinity needs a lot of power while reading news, tapatalk, Reader HD..
Not more than 4 hours Screen On Time!
And that with balanced mode and 50% brightness.
Any problems with the fifth companion core?
PS: Is there an app which shows the activity of the different cores?
FAbi
Gesendet von meinem ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T mit Tapatalk 2
this is crazy, i got my tablet on monday, used it about 3-4 hours restoring all my apps and signing in to everything, and i havent used it much since but today, i'm still at 76%, havent plugged it in it or docked it. I also forgot to mention my dad played with it a bit also...prob about 1 hour
Hey guys so I know there are a few things that can improve battery life and some things that are supposed to help but may be a mith? Things as only draining battery to 10% and charging to 90% or something like this. What are tips that help? Also if you guys have changed your cpu settings that really improved the battery life let us know!
I drained my battery down to 0% after the second time I used it and it pushed my battery up from 3:30 to 5:30. I also use batterybar to see the stats and whatnot. Another thing you can do is go into power options in the Control Panel and change the plan settings > advance power settings. I usually change the Processor power management settings and the Intel Graphics Settings.
Kraize said:
I drained my battery down to 0% after the second time I used it and it pushed my battery up from 3:30 to 5:30. I also use batterybar to see the stats and whatnot. Another thing you can do is go into power options in the Control Panel and change the plan settings > advance power settings. I usually change the Processor power management settings and the Intel Graphics Settings.
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do you ever charge it to 100%
Does leaving it on the charger like when playing a game or something matter? Does it stop charging once it reaches 100
AFAIK, leaving it on the charger shouldn't matter. It's a smart charger. I always charge it to 100%, but never go lower than 10%. I try to recharge around 15%.
Best thing I've done is disable my bluetooth since I have no devices that use it.
Second is lower the brightness while on battery.
I'm getting around 5:30 of battery life doing things like browsing, email, news reading, and using Autodesk Sketchbook Design.
Disable automatic brightness. Change the screen timeout to the lowest value that works for you. Turn off BT. Turn off live tiles and notifications for apps you don't need to update on your main screen and lock screen. Run the troubleshooter for power and see if you can deal with what it changes.
Ive got a SM-N770F/DS and I always have medium power saving mode on. I have also always had an issue with Google Maps not wanting to detect location after I turn the screen off. I assumed it was a google issue until I turned optimized power saving mode on today and Maps suddenly started reading my location and giving directions while the screen was off. Is it possible to disable the "prevent background location access" part of medium power saving mode? Long pressing my power saving settings doesnt give any options to do this, im thinking my only option is to root. Would rooting fix this? If so, does anyone know of some roms on here that would allow me to do this? I dont care about much else from the rom, I like the phone as is and this is the only issue I have with it
Do not toggled on any power management other than the power mode (optimized) and fast charging.
They screw up functionality and increase battery usage on my unrooted 10+ running on Pie.
In Developer options>standby apps all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active. Android will manage apps well without any power management options turned on. Track down any remaining battery hogs on a per case basis and deal directly with them. Sometimes closing the window gets it done like with Brave. Others need to be dealt with by package disabler and/or Karma Firewall.
This may or may not help you.
Gmaps is crapware. Runs best on original factory load and is a parasitic drain wanting to constantly run in the backup from boot sucking up battery and bandwidth.
Unlike you my goal is to keep it from doing this
Also review Gmaps notification and other settings. It's a mess; buried settings galore.
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They screw up functionality and increase battery usage
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Android will manage apps well without any power management options turned on
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I feel like I have experienced the opposite. I felt like my battery was draining faster with optimized on today (2nd pic) compared to the past few days with medium power saving on (first pic). Obviously more testing needs to be done to see. Going off of the pics I lost about 50% each day, so optimized seems to be worse for battery life but the reduced screen on time makes up for it in this scenario