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[quick review] Vainworks stand - Turn back facing cam fowards!

hey guys. just got my vainworks stand in the mail. for those who dont know, google it.
basically its a stand with mirrors on it. the mirrors play off your phones camera and gets the image to face you as the phone sits in the stand. you can flip it upside down and do landscape aswell.
phones with cameras closer to the outer edges work better. phones with cameras in the middle of the phone may not see good results. i know the eris is one of these phones. as well as the mytouch 3g.
if your cmaera is closer to side edge, it will work great in portrait mode. if its closer to the top, it will work in landscape well.
i have tried this with my G2, my girlfriends HD2, and my friends mytouch3g. the g2 works. not 100 percent...but definately works. video calling in portrait mode was 90%. landscape mode was 70%. i would recommend this to every1. with a g2. if you have an android in general, i would definately atleast check it out.
the HD2 camera is in the middle of the phone. this affects the landscape mode. you will still see results but they will be minimal. 50%at best. but...luckily.. the camera is kind of high on the phone so...landscape mode works well. 80%
HD2 will work over Tmo 3G. no lag. used tango to make calls.
also made a call to a friend using a mytouch 4G. of course....his FFC worked. but it was the first sucessfull video call to him i've mad so far. (showed me his car after an accident. was pretty awesome.)
tried video calling with G2 and HD2. had to use in landscape due to i wanted to see my girlfriend and portrait mode isnt as good for her. but was win.
downfall...1.complaints of low sound. i heard them pretty well though. little low but they apparently really had trouble hearing me. had to speak pretty loudly. 2. its little enough to bring with you if you have a backpack or something, but its "mobile". i cant exactly walk around with it in use.
ya know what, though... at 1 priced at 17.99$ and 2 for 25.99$...ya really cant go wrong.

Wow, if it is like the first few I saw when I googled it.. looks lame and big. I like this one better http://www.gizmosforgeeks.com/wordpress/uploads/2010/12/onemoreface.png
which was in this forum before but they didn't have money to manufacture it or something
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havikx said:
hey guys. just got my vainworks stand in the mail. for those who dont know, google it.
basically its a stand with mirrors on it. the mirrors play off your phones camera and gets the image to face you as the phone sits in the stand. you can flip it upside down and do landscape aswell.
phones with cameras closer to the outer edges work better. phones with cameras in the middle of the phone may not see good results. i know the eris is one of these phones. as well as the mytouch 3g.
if your cmaera is closer to side edge, it will work great in portrait mode. if its closer to the top, it will work in landscape well.
i have tried this with my G2, my girlfriends HD2, and my friends mytouch3g. the g2 works. not 100 percent...but definately works. video calling in portrait mode was 90%. landscape mode was 70%. i would recommend this to every1. with a g2. if you have an android in general, i would definately atleast check it out.
the HD2 camera is in the middle of the phone. this affects the landscape mode. you will still see results but they will be minimal. 50%at best. but...luckily.. the camera is kind of high on the phone so...landscape mode works well. 80%
HD2 will work over Tmo 3G. no lag. used tango to make calls.
also made a call to a friend using a mytouch 4G. of course....his FFC worked. but it was the first sucessfull video call to him i've mad so far. (showed me his car after an accident. was pretty awesome.)
tried video calling with G2 and HD2. had to use in landscape due to i wanted to see my girlfriend and portrait mode isnt as good for her. but was win.
downfall...1.complaints of low sound. i heard them pretty well though. little low but they apparently really had trouble hearing me. had to speak pretty loudly. 2. its little enough to bring with you if you have a backpack or something, but its "mobile". i cant exactly walk around with it in use.
ya know what, though... at 1 priced at 17.99$ and 2 for 25.99$...ya really cant go wrong.
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brah that's too bulky, I'm looking for portable like onemoreface.
Fly like a G2

jojo_16 said:
brah that's too bulky, I'm looking for portable like onemoreface.
Fly like a G2
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is there a g2 version of that? and will it mount to tmobile plastic case?

upon research....
that thing isnt even out yet! ha. i'm video calling right now on my g2. plus they say it brings video calling to Nexus. it'll be a while before they make a g2 version. plus...as i said before... the nexus version isnt even out yet. ill get it when and if it comes out. not like the stand was crazy expensive at 2 for 25$.
until then...i'll be video calling. what are you guys doing?

havikx said:
upon research....
that thing isnt even out yet! ha. i'm video calling right now on my g2. plus they say it brings video calling to Nexus. it'll be a while before they make a g2 version. plus...as i said before... the nexus version isnt even out yet. ill get it when and if it comes out. not like the stand was crazy expensive at 2 for 25$.
until then...i'll be video calling. what are you guys doing?
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Playing with my............
... wait... you were being sarcastic...

I found this one called Iseeu
anyone tried it?

omarsalmin said:
Playing with my............
... wait... you were being sarcastic...
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lol. very good.
i have video called my girlfriend from work every day this week with it. it fits fine in my bag. i have clothes though mainly. would recommend throwin it in there with somethings solid.

havikx said:
lol. very good.
i have video called my girlfriend from work every day this week with it. it fits fine in my bag. i have clothes though mainly. would recommend throwin it in there with somethings solid.
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And I have a laptop that fits in my bag. It does video calls as well....
I think most people are looking for something smaller and more portable. Most guys don't carry bags. Not to mention I don't see a lot of people video chatting or even desiring the ability to video chat. Also, your quoted price is a tad off.
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o0olove said:
And I have a laptop that fits in my bag. It does video calls as well....
I think most people are looking for something smaller and more portable. Most guys don't carry bags. Not to mention I don't see a lot of people video chatting or even desiring the ability to video chat. Also, your quoted price is a tad off.
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i also have a macbook. i could video on that too but...why? people are lookin for smaller and more portable.. sure. but while every1s waiting...im video chatting every day. most guys dont carry bags... but what about bookbags? i know plenty of guys with em. full grown men. i lug a bookbag. i dont carry them.
people are wantin something smaller...more portable... but dont have a desire to video chat? ok...if they dont want to video chat...they wouldnt want a more portable solution to it. would they?
my girl got 2 for 25$. maybe after shippin was not 25$? i dunno. could be a dollar or 2 off. maybe 25.99$?
so as i said before... you can wait for your more portable, smaller version of what i already got.... but while you wait...i video call my girl and my friends everyday.
in fact...heres one now. keep waiting.

The price for 2 is actually $30 plus $5 shipping. I don't know any man that carries a bookbag, heck I don't even carry a purse. So that is a little bulky for my taste. I will wait for a more portable one and buy it and never use it. I see my husband at home no need to see his face on the phone too. Thats nice that you enjoy it, though.

o0olove said:
The price for 2 is actually $30 plus $5 shipping. I don't know any man that carries a bookbag, heck I don't even carry a purse. So that is a little bulky for my taste. I will wait for a more portable one and buy it and never use it. I see my husband at home no need to see his face on the phone too. Thats nice that you enjoy it, though.
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i see my girlfriend at home, as well. now i see her at work too. i cant get enough of her. but thats not my point.
if you dont know of a man that carrys a bookbag...you havent met a real man. lol. jkjk.

Phonedog's review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtYB-6k52vw&feature=feedu
Aron doesnt seem that happy with it.

Got a bit bored after the first 1:24secs as he must have said "HTC Sensation" countless times without actually doing anything else other than flapping it at the camera.

PocketNow's video's were better

redbullcat said:
PocketNow's video's were better
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Phonedog's credibility died the day Noah left and put this total dork in charge. Phonedog should have finished the day Noah left. Lets face it though, Noah was a bit of a pleb too but at least he was a pleb with taste, i agree with a lot of what he says and i rate his judgement on phones.. This guy just seems to compare everything with his iphone... yukkk

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etz2xrFQ0LQ&feature=feedu

I like when he complains about "lag" over and over but then cannot reproduce it.
Also, people need to stop getting so caught up on quadrant scores. It always sounds like "mines bigger than yours" locker room banter.
Of course a higher resolution device will not produce the benchmarks of a similarly spec'd device with a lower resolution.
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it was an ok review. Seeing the stupid crap at the bottom every so often just repeating what he just said was annoying. Love that he only was able to recreate the lag he kept talking about so much once.

i thought this was the best review yet. he covered much more than everyone else has. i think aaron is a great reviewer, as well as noah. neither is better imo. everyone has their own oppinions. noah is more on the serious side, i can see more people liking that.. but almost all reviewers sounds so bored and are boring lol.

OccasionalDroid said:
Phonedog's credibility died the day Noah left and put this total dork in charge. Phonedog should have finished the day Noah left. Lets face it though, Noah was a bit of a pleb too but at least he was a pleb with taste, i agree with a lot of what he says and i rate his judgement on phones.. This guy just seems to compare everything with his iphone... yukkk
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people like to hear what phones are compared to the iphone. since it is one of the best selling phones. what is better about noah than aaron?? he covered everything there was to do on the phone with limited time. do you like the reviews where people sound like they are about to fall asleep or something? lol

stratax said:
i thought this was the best review yet. he covered much more than everyone else has.
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did you watch the pocketnow review?

It was a decent review.
HTC has a habit of trying to use every bit of a device's resources for their own user interface. That's why the lag issues occur, but it's worth mentioning in a review. Not something you worry about much when you know you won't stay stock.

xnifex said:
did you watch the pocketnow review?
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i think i did, i dont remember. i will i have to re watch it. i watched some british dudes review and it was pretty much just (lag this, lag that, laggy browser, cool 3d effect). i watched a couple others but i got bored. everyone has their oppions though. no reason to judge. like the other person in this thread bashing on aaron. its a phone review.. lol im pretty sure if he had more time on his hand, etc he could cover more. it seems as 1080p for all phones released is crap, they should have worked on it more.

the links for the reviews are in this thread. enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113026

Post Your First Impressions

Always curious to hear.
Got mine yesterday.
It's all screen! Lighter, thinner than GS3. Feels more like a small, thin Note 2 which is a good thing to me. Not so bubbly as GS3. Screen is amazing. Bloatware is out of control. The back looks kind of like snake skin.
The speaker is much louder than GS3. So far, I love it. Haven't even tried the features yet!
Anyone else?:good:

Got mine yesterday as well. Extremely nice screen! Gorilla Glass 3 resists finger prints better then advertised in my opinion and the overall 5 inch display is incredible. Super zippy but yes, comes loaded with Samsung and AT&T Apps but this shouldn't be too surprising as Samsung did advertise there software quite a bit. Only natural they put there mark in it. On the flip side all this is easily fixable once a root is out but EVEN with this stuff the phone manages to handle it's memory well and work fast.
Overall I am glad I waited and after a couple of weeks I think there people freaking out are really gonna kick themselves for getting all worked up over stupid problems that are easily dealt with.

Got mine yesterday. see my bloatware thread.
Hardware is amazing and top notch. Software is so bloated and bogged down that, when combined with locked bootloader, I will strongly consider returning.
People might flame me for this, but even with the bloat disabled and using Nova launcher, my gs3 running slim bean is faster on everyday tasks.
Just hit 5% battery life and the phone just automatically reduced brightness to a point that I can barely use it, and phone won't let me crank it back up. Just way too much garbage.
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WMguy said:
Always curious to hear.
Got mine yesterday.
It's all screen! Lighter, thinner than GS3. Feels more like a small, thin Note 2 which is a good thing to me. Not so bubbly as GS3. Screen is amazing. Bloatware is out of control. The back looks kind of like snake skin.
The speaker is much louder than GS3. So far, I love it. Haven't even tried the features yet!
Anyone else?:good:
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screen is mind blowingly good, i had a HTC one for 3 days before i got my GS4 and honestly the one was closer to the s4 then i thought it would be. the one had less bloat and it stutter a bit less (after freezing bloat my phone has gotten ALOT better). camera is awesome love the quality and wow this phone is so small for 5 inches. coming from a note 2 and a temporary lumia 920 this thing feels tiny and light, honestly one of the major selling points of the gs4 is it's bezel less design (imo). if bootloader stays locked for long i am selling it or trading it for the one or octa core version.... its a shame that the stock rom is so bloated, i traded the one back because i thought sammy software would blow htc out the water but it didn't . One more thing, the GS4 tv remote works 10000 times better then the htc one. htc could not sync to my sound bar or u-verse box no matter what i tried, the GS4 had that working in seconds. i have 3 remotes just for my bed room and the fact that i do not need them is a huge plus.

phositadc said:
Got mine yesterday. see my bloatware thread.
Hardware is amazing and top notch. Software is so bloated and bogged down that, when combined with locked bootloader, I will strongly consider returning.
People might flame me for this, but even with the bloat disabled and using Nova launcher, my gs3 running slim bean is faster on everyday tasks.
Just hit 5% battery life and the phone just automatically reduced brightness to a point that I can barely use it, and phone won't let me crank it back up. Just way too much garbage.
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You might need to play with the settings some more for the auto brightness settings. As for the lag, AOSP ROMs have always been faster (in my experience) to Touchwiz Roms. I'm going to put up with the stock Touchwiz for as long as I can before trying out the first releases of AOSP on the GS4. I'm hopeful we will see some crazy development action if it's true the Quad-core international version ROM's can easily be ported to the US versions and vice versa. The international GS3 had so much to chose from. I was perfectly happy on my GS3 using AOKP, but I'm sure I'm not going to regret moving over to the GS4. I had the same debate when switching from the GS2 to the GS3.

I dont get mine till tonight, but I found one in a best buy mobile store and was surpised at how much stuttering I saw just going through the homescreens.
Im hoping that when I disable all the eye tracking stuff that will all run better.

porkaysi said:
the GS4 tv remote works 10000 times better
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I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?

SysAdmNj said:
I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?
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just got the phone yesterday but i have not played with it a lot, studying for finals . but i did dual shot and it is cool and i could see it being fun to use. have not tried all the shooting modes but i am flying to NYC tonight and i plan on taking a bunch of photos and playing with the camera in depth over the weekend

SysAdmNj said:
I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?
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Here are some photos I snapped this morning in challenging conditions: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oll6vneulv13mz6/TZcApg0pCD
Overall, better than Galaxy S3 by a decent margin. But I used to have an iPhone 5, and my initial impression is that the IP5 takes better pictures than the GS4, at least in these conditions. I feel like it was extremely rare that I got a bad photo out of that phone, even in a relatively dark room as in these pictures, but as you can see in my link, several of these are pretty bad.

porkaysi said:
just got the phone yesterday but i have not played with it a lot, studying for finals . but i did dual shot and it is cool and i could see it being fun to use. have not tried all the shooting modes but i am flying to NYC tonight and i plan on taking a bunch of photos and playing with the camera in depth over the weekend
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Well good luck with that, and post some of the pics when you can
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Here are some photos I snapped this morning in challenging conditions: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oll6vneulv13mz6/TZcApg0pCD
Overall, better than Galaxy S3 by a decent margin. But I used to have an iPhone 5, and my initial impression is that the IP5 takes better pictures than the GS4, at least in these conditions. I feel like it was extremely rare that I got a bad photo out of that phone, even in a relatively dark room as in these pictures, but as you can see in my link, several of these are pretty bad.
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Your pics look pretty good to me. I'm viewing them on my 24" monitor at work though. Cute dog btw. I'm sure compared to the ip5 the gs4 will have better detail due to the higher resolution in normal conditions? Is there an exposure setting? Or other settings to help low light conditions?

SysAdmNj said:
Well good luck with that, and post some of the pics when you can
Your pics look pretty good to me. I'm viewing them on my 24" monitor at work though. Cute dog btw. I'm sure compared to the ip5 the gs4 will have better detail due to the higher resolution in normal conditions? Is there an exposure setting? Or other settings to help low light conditions?
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Now that I've taken a second look, I guess you are right that they are pretty decent, except for one of them. I'm so used to looking at things on a small screen that when I blow it up on a big monitor I expect it to be just as sharp on a big screen as it was on a small screen!

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Now that I've taken a second look, I guess you are right that they are pretty decent, except for one of them. I'm so used to looking at things on a small screen that when I blow it up on a big monitor I expect it to be just as sharp on a big screen as it was on a small screen!
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i agree. those pics you posted dont look that bad. that's the problem with the htc one camera (i own one) when you increase the resolution of the pic, the quality suffers due to only being 4mp. the gs4 is 13mp so it wont be as bad when you increase it's resolution (although there will still be some kind of quality drop off).

Just frickin' awesome. After having the Note this "cheap" plastic feels luxurious

Got mine today. Coming from an LG Optimus G. Here's a few thoughts.
1. I really like the keyboard. But since I've been a swiftkey user for a long time that's no surprise.
2. Screen is very good. Wish it was a little brighter when using auto brightness, but it is very good nonetheless.
3. Maybe I'm just not that picky, but I don't notice any lag. At least not anything bad enough to complain about.
4. Seems to charge pretty fast with the included 2 amp charger.
5. It might be plastic, but I can tell you I like the light weight and the feel in my hand better than my LG Optimus G...
6. I thought the 'swapped' menu and back buttons would bother me. But to be honest, I kind of like it better...
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I have a few questions,
1. Does the speaker have 'stereo sound' like the HTC one? Can you hear the base? What about hooking up to the headphone? Does it sound better than S3?
2. Anyone here uses Allshare cast? I have a Samsung LED Smart TV that I stream movies directly from my phone to the TV with a touch of a button on the S3. It does have occasional lags, however. Does the S4 do the same?
3. Does the S4 have the same amount of ringtones like the S3?

JasonJoel said:
6. I thought the 'swapped' menu and back buttons would bother me. But to be honest, I kind of like it better...
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I actually really like the button setup. When I got my first smartphone like three years ago, it was a Blackberry, and it had a similar button arrangement. It went [PHONE][MENU][HOME/SELECT][BACK][END CALL]. My current Galaxy S2 is [MENU][HOME][BACK][SEARCH]. So the S4 will be the same as I am used to, and I will appreciate not having to get used to a new setup.

two issues.
1)wifi keeps on disconnecting... very annoying
i have another device on the same wifi, but it's not disconnecting at all.
2) RAM. even if i clear everything, i'm at 1.2GB ish.. i always notice the homescreen widgets refreshing themselves due to low RAM.
anyone else?
everything else is fine.
speedy, beautiful screen, good speaker, very nice camera, etc.

Speaker is very good; coming from S2
Bloat... Blah
Android without root, is like a day without sunshine.

fargonaz said:
Android without root, is like a day without sunshine.
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This is a great comment! I agree 100%.

rsmolen said:
This is a great comment! I agree 100%.
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I honestly dont feel a need to root with the One S4 I can see being pretty much the same. Too me stock is way more boring =/

Pebble Smartwatch

Anyone check these out or considering getting one I think it'd be cool to have with my s4 since it's waterproof and vibrates when you're getting calls I just don't know if I'd wanna drop 150 on it

jweb92 said:
Anyone check these out or considering getting one I think it'd be cool to have with my s4 since it's waterproof and vibrates when you're getting calls I just don't know if I'd wanna drop 150 on it
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I'm hoping to get it for my birthday, but I'm also hoping more functionality comes along as well.

jweb92 said:
Anyone check these out or considering getting one I think it'd be cool to have with my s4 since it's waterproof and vibrates when you're getting calls I just don't know if I'd wanna drop 150 on it
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I'd consider pebble being out dated, and i didnt think pebble was waterproof? Look into Agent smart watch I'd buy that! Or just wait till fall there will be better and more smart watches out
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Yeah, now is a bad time to buy smart watches with speculation about google building one themselves.

The Pebble is just so ugly. I'm waiting to see the new Sony Smart watch 2, which is also $150. And I think Samsung or Google will be coming out with one soon.

I have it and it is nice but I am suffering with the phones battery life without having the bluetooth on all the time so I hardly use it anymore.
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I'm a bit wristwatch obsessed... It's a bad habit, worse than the phone habit, it is actually more expensive.
Looked at it and considered doing the kickstarter thing but ultimately decided it was more gadget than functional. There were/are watches/bracelets that monitor calls and messages already that were/are cheaper. I just think it really isn't that sophisticated. I'd wait and see what comes out. Seems to be a lot of interest from a lot of vendors.
Just my 2 cents.

Yeah my bday isn't until September so hopefully Samsung has one out by then I want someone to get me either a smart watch or johnny walker blue label since it's my 21st lol
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I have one and I love it, but that's because I wasn't looking for another android device or computer on my wrist. i wanted a smartwatch. It receives notifications from my phone, with augmented smartwatch you get a ton of control over what it sends, you can run tasker tasks with it, also runkeeper will display pace and time info on it automatically.
The standalone watchapps work great for me too. Countdown timer that vibrates alone is a giant boon for me since I do standup comedy, so I don't have to watch for the light at the 1 minute warning I can just let my wrist buzz and know i need to wrap up without burning the light.
And it is waterproof, which is great I can control my phone's music playlist from the shower, also if I go to a spa or something I get my notifications. With Bluetooth 4.0 BLE support drain should be minimal.
Is it for everyone, no. Is it just right for me for now. Totally.
However I am a tech whore early adopter so if google comes out with something I'll probably buy it and then the wife get's a new to her toy, which she doesn't mind at all.

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Anyone check these out or considering getting one I think it'd be cool to have with my s4 since it's waterproof and vibrates when you're getting calls I just don't know if I'd wanna drop 150 on it
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I have the Pebble watch, married to my recently purchased S4. Previously it was paried with my HTC Desire (Bravo) with Cyanogenmod.
The initial setup was a bit stranger than the HTC, but eventually worked.
Now with the pebble notification enabled in the "Accessabilty, Services" section, the stupid "Talkback" option seems to be on, and speak "Webpage Loaded" and stuff with the default browser. Even with toggling it on and off, the stupid thing just keeps speaking. Using Chrome browser stops the voicing, but it's annoying as hell.
Either way, I don't notice any noticable battery drop in my daily use. I am up at 4:15am and disconnect the charger, go to the gym then work, then gym again. By the time i put the phone back on charge at about 8:30pm, i have about 18% battery left. That's fine by me.
-KegRaider.

KegRaider said:
I have the Pebble watch, married to my recently purchased S4. Previously it was paried with my HTC Desire (Bravo) with Cyanogenmod.
The initial setup was a bit stranger than the HTC, but eventually worked.
Now with the pebble notification enabled in the "Accessabilty, Services" section, the stupid "Talkback" option seems to be on, and speak "Webpage Loaded" and stuff with the default browser. Even with toggling it on and off, the stupid thing just keeps speaking. Using Chrome browser stops the voicing, but it's annoying as hell.
Either way, I don't notice any noticable battery drop in my daily use. I am up at 4:15am and disconnect the charger, go to the gym then work, then gym again. By the time i put the phone back on charge at about 8:30pm, i have about 18% battery left. That's fine by me.
-KegRaider.
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Oh let me make the talkback issue worse for you.
If you go to your gallery the top bar won't hide either. Its a bug in TouchWiz and Samsung hasn't fixed it since the S3. Oh and I doubt you eye tracking works either.

SilentRazor said:
Oh let me make the talkback issue worse for you.
If you go to your gallery the top bar won't hide either. Its a bug in TouchWiz and Samsung hasn't fixed it since the S3. Oh and I doubt you eye tracking works either.
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That sucks to hear.

I considered getting one, but wanted to find something with a larger bezel. The bezel and thickness of the pebble is just too little!
Oh, and supporting a company that's been screwing over it's backers for over a year isn't my cup of tea.

SilentRazor said:
Oh let me make the talkback issue worse for you.
If you go to your gallery the top bar won't hide either. Its a bug in TouchWiz and Samsung hasn't fixed it since the S3. Oh and I doubt you eye tracking works either.
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Yeh, I tried the eye tracking and it was crap. I'm not really that phased by it. The hand swipe is a bit of **** too. I'm a lot over touchwiz, so after reading around a bit, installed Nova last night. Much better Best idea so far. Now I can change the task launcher to how I want it to look, not what Samsung want it to look like.
Funny, I was tossing up for days over getting the S4 or HTC One. I thought I made the right choice...... oh well, you live and learn.

I have pebble watch. Everything is perfect. Just delete talkback.apk other wise that **** will talk all the time

avetny said:
I have pebble watch. Everything is perfect. Just delete talkback.apk other wise that **** will talk all the time
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I am going to look into this!
I just picked up a Pebble since they now sell them at Best Buy. So far so good. Not really noticing any drain on battery or anything either...

ahfunaki said:
I am going to look into this!
I just picked up a Pebble since they now sell them at Best Buy. So far so good. Not really noticing any drain on battery or anything either...
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Oh I have them long time ago...(Kick stand edition)
Trust me the watch is much better then shi_tty sony smartwatch.
Many things why I like pebble more. First belt of SmartWatch getting dusty with out reason. The color display is cool, but it have a bad responding. The battery is bad also. So I gave to the friend and bought pebble watch before it released.
The watch is very stable. Battery is superior good. The design is very lux. After 5 months I still love it.
And there is no battery drain or stuff like that.

avetny said:
Oh I have them long time ago...(Kick stand edition)
Trust me the watch is much better then shi_tty sony smartwatch.
Many things why I like pebble more. First belt of SmartWatch getting dusty with out reason. The color display is cool, but it have a bad responding. The battery is bad also. So I gave to the friend and bought pebble watch before before it released.
The watch is very stable. Battery is superior good. The design is very lux. After 5 months I still love it.
And there is no battery drain or stuff like that.
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Can you point me to a how to on how to remove talkback? I've been looking since I posted and can't seem to find the file on my phone to delete it.

ahfunaki said:
Can you point me to a how to on how to remove talkback? I've been looking since I posted and can't seem to find the file on my phone to delete it.
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Sure.
You need a root.
By root explorer (or similar app)
go to:
System>>>App>>>and delete talkback>>>restart device.
(You can always get this app from market play if you need it)

avetny said:
Sure.
You need a root.
By root explorer (or similar app)
go to:
System>>>App>>>and delete talkback>>>restart device.
(You can always get this app from market play if you need it)
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I'm not seeing talkback.apk, the only thing I see is talk.apk and I'm pretty sure that's not what I want to remove.

Best VR headset for Moto ZF?

Anyone recommend a budget friendly, solid headset for the Moto Z/F?

It would be cool to see a a VR set specifically for the MZF. I see a few possibilities on how they could make the VR another "mod" offering.

Maybe one with a wire...or wireless display to make it lighter and more comfortable

Is the Samsung VR compatible?
Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

Do you want your face to blow up?

LeeMullinsII said:
Do you want your face to blow up?
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Lol I don't think the VR will make your face blow up. Unless using it with a note 7
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Sorry had to,but Im curious about vr for this phone, Im curious as to if the daydream viewer will work.

I got this one for $40 and it works well with my Moto Z Force https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KZ1392Y?tag=- It's a pretty neat experience when watching 3D or 360 videos. Only thing to keep in mind and something I was unaware of when I got mine is that some VR apps require a "action" button, which is a magnetic button that not all headsets come with. Mine does not have the "action" button. A lot of apps however let you choose to use a "action" button or to focus. The focus is pretty sweet. You just look at what you want to open.

LeeMullinsII said:
Sorry had to,but Im curious about vr for this phone, Im curious as to if the daydream viewer will work.
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Looks like daydream is officially supported with the Nougat update according to Moto here . I ordered one and should have it Wednesday. Just hope the OTA gets here in time.

mcp2009 said:
Looks like daydream is officially supported with the Nougat update according to Moto here . I ordered one and should have it Wednesday. Just hope the OTA gets here in time.
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Officially supported according to Google as well https://vr.google.com/daydream/phones/

LeeMullinsII said:
Officially supported according to Google as well https://vr.google.com/daydream/phones/
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Good find. Looks like my Daydream is coming a day early but sadly no OTA yet

mcp2009 said:
Good find. Looks like my Daydream is coming a day early but sadly no OTA yet
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Let us know how it works out when you do get it please

LeeMullinsII said:
Let us know how it works out when you do get it please
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Will do. Headset came an hour ago and OTA just started downloading

LeeMullinsII said:
Let us know how it works out when you do get it please
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Initial impression is pretty good. Remote is pretty cool and I tried a few apps and quality is good. I've been a little spoiled with my PSVR but this is great for mobile. I had to side load the daydream app and keyboard because play store said it was not compatible but it all seems to be working right now. Most daydream apps I could download but there was 1 or 2 games I had to side load. Quality seems on par with the GearVR but imo the remote is such a better input method than the touchpad on the GearVR. I only tested a little bit because the OTA drained my battery so I'm charging up now to test more later. If there's anything specific you want me to try let me know I'll be trying again in a little bit.
Edit: Guess I should point out I'm using the Moto Z Droid not the force. Not too sure how much of a difference the shattershield makes as far as quality.

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Initial impression is pretty good. Remote is pretty cool and I tried a few apps and quality is good. I've been a little spoiled with my PSVR but this is great for mobile. I had to side load the daydream app and keyboard because play store said it was not compatible but it all seems to be working right now. Most daydream apps I could download but there was 1 or 2 games I had to side load. Quality seems on par with the GearVR but imo the remote is such a better input method than the touchpad on the GearVR. I only tested a little bit because the OTA drained my battery so I'm charging up now to test more later. If there's anything specific you want me to try let me know I'll be trying again in a little bit.
Edit: Guess I should point out I'm using the Moto Z Droid not the force. Not too sure how much of a difference the shattershield makes as far as quality.
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Im mostly curious about netflix hulu or youtube. Maybe I should get the psvr. I dony imagine shattershiled would affect it too badly, from what Im seeing its mostly screen size

LeeMullinsII said:
Im mostly curious about netflix hulu or youtube. Maybe I should get the psvr. I dony imagine shattershiled would affect it too badly, from what Im seeing its mostly screen size
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Ok. Phones almost charged up so I'll try in a little. I tried one 360 video on YouTube earlier and it didn't look bad. Hulu I have installed but I gotta see if my subscription is still active. Netflix unfortunately wasn't on there yet. Yea I love the PSVR as far as gaming but imo it sucks for media use right now.

Just watched some family guy on Hulu and it wasn't too bad. Screen door effect is noticeable but not too bad imo. It's just like the Hulu app on my psvr and makes it seem like your sitting in a living room and you can change the environment. The YouTube app is pretty awesome too and works pretty well. The biggest gripe I have with this headset is the light bleed which you'll notice in a lot of reviews. It sort of leaves a glare on the lenses but it's not too noticeable when your actually getting into it. Overall I'm happy with the purchase.

Can you give your impressions on gaming? I have never used a VR headset and don't want to drop the money on a PSVR right now.
How is it playing action games or the new HP game? How is VR gaming experience overall? (In its infancy/pretty sweet/novelty)

HotShotAzn said:
Can you give your impressions on gaming? I have never used a VR headset and don't want to drop the money on a PSVR right now.
How is it playing action games or the new HP game? How is VR gaming experience overall? (In its infancy/pretty sweet/novelty)
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So far I tried fantastic beast a little and it was ok but more like a virtual experience not bad for free though. Aside from that I tried VR karts which was fun steering with the remote. Heading out to shop right now but once back I'll try some more games. I know it won't really compare to my PSVR but in my past experiences with mobile VR the gaming isn't too bad.

Im curious, would changing the dpi alter the screen door effect at all since we now have full control over that?