I have a Nexus 6P, rooted. Previous to Marshmallow I used to be able to restore my apps/data/settings pretty easily with Titanium, but now it's a pain. What I want is to be able to perform a clean image install when updates come out, then flash TWRP, install Titanium, restore my stuff, move on. But now it's a headache. If I try to restore any system data (call log, anything) Android starts force closing the associated app/service. Can anyone steer me in the right direction?
Why titanium if you have twrp :/ twrp can backup everything fine, faster and easier. Data, cache partitions thats it.
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I (finally) flashed v2.0 touchmiuiwiz, someone suggested that since nandroid restores cause fc's, that i should flash the rom, reboot, let it load, then go back into cwm and restore data.
i did that, and the music player/camera/gallery/etc still dont work. i guess i'm being forced into titanium backup. question is - does it work if i make a backup ON THIS ROM then restore? or do i have to flash a different rom that doesn't fc said apps, THEN backup, then flash v2.0 and restore?
also, how does tit backup work? after flashing, where do i go to restore data? thanks bros.
anyone? =|
when you make a backup and restore you have to wipe data/factory ereset and it will work from any rom!
titanium backup makes a backup file of all your apps on the sd card and you can backup whenever you want.
so after the data wipe, i re-download titanium backup and restore from there?
Yeah, pretty much. TB Pro you don't have to confirm each app install when restoring. It was expensive but since I flash often it really speeds up the recovery process.
You can back up settings as well as apps. But I would only restore settings if on the same rom, no matter the version, unless significant. But all else, apps you can restore from any rom no problem. However, if you get a FC in an app (sometimes I'd get it for Gmail) you can just wipe the data for that app. It usually resolves the problem.
I'm wondering if I can expect a backup using Titanium Backup (backing up all user apps + system data) on my existing phone running Android 2.2.2 to be properly restored when it comes back from a factory repair running a newer OS. Will my apps and data really work properly if they update my OS? I'd rather go this route than using a root backup type backup because I'd like to get the OS upgrade. Or is there an easier way to get an OS upgrade while keeping all my apps?
I am using Titanium Backup on my rooted device.
I am afraid this app and other backup-apps are only able to backup and restore user, or pre-installed applications that are not part of the OS.
You cannot backup or restore any system data without rooting the device first, because accessing system data requires root access. The same is true for restoring the data later on.
So if you want to backup system data, preferences or a whole system backup (NANDbackup), you'll have to get root first!
Good luck:fingers-crossed:
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I'm wondering if I can expect a backup using Titanium Backup (backing up all user apps + system data) on my existing phone running Android 2.2.2 to be properly restored when it comes back from a factory repair running a newer OS. Will my apps and data really work properly if they update my OS? I'd rather go this route than using a root backup type backup because I'd like to get the OS upgrade. Or is there an easier way to get an OS upgrade while keeping all my apps?
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Yes this will work as you said you backed up system apps instead is in my experience sometimes when you restore apps and data through titanium it sometime makes apps a little wonky like force closing and such. I would go for it worse case scenario is you notice apps acting up, do a factory reset if unrooted or wipe and reinstall rom if rooted and then when you restore with titanium press the option to restore app only then a least you don't have redownload apps from the market
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If I flash a ROM and then want to restore all my apps and data, why should I use Titanium?
1. So I see that my google "Backup account" can backup my data and restore apps and there settings and data. So why use Titanium?
2. whats the difference between googles backup and Titanium's?
3. Can I use both together when restoring? I assume google will restore first and then I will restore from Titanium... Is there any reason to restore from google account?
4. And then there's TWRP and its backup: what I understand about this is if I do a backup before I flash Viper Rom then I can flash my backup if I want to return to my old ROM and it will restore the ROM and apps and all data (so I wouldn't need to restore from Titanium and/or google in this scenario?). Is this correct?
Thanks, smoka
the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
n0ne980 said:
the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
TWRP will not remove your Titanium backups unless you specifically tell it to wipe your sd card (sdcard2) or your personal data partition(sdcard1) depending on where you have it set to back things up to.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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What is TiBu?
Titanium backup.lol.
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Migrated to android about a year ago and still haven't been able to work out proper android backup.
I want to be able to mess with the system without fear of losing my data/configurations.
For example when installing Lollipop I encountered a lot of problems and every time I ****ed something up and had to reflash it I need to reinstall and reconfigure ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING (Including redownloading about 13GB of music for google play music).
This has been a major letdown as I love tweaking and messing with the system getting it 100% the way I like it.
I've been able to get a basic functioning Lollipop installation but I want more.
Here's what I want to be able to backup to my PC (a 13GB backup on the device isn't very practical, especially when messing with the system):
My apps and all their settings (Including google play's downloaded music).
System settings.
This way and I can mess with the system and once I get it the way I want- restore the backup.
I know this might seem like a lazy google question but I am really at a lose.
I've scoured the internet looking for a solution, Tried numerous programs with no success.
Please if someone can guide me in the right direction I'll be forever grateful.
TWRP and/or Titanium Backup.
The backup via won't be 13 GB. It doesn't back up the /sdcard mount.
There are 3 backups you should do.
1) Nandroid backup from custom recovery such as TWRP
This backs up /system (where your ROM is), boot (where your kernel is) and /data (where all your user apps, user data and system data is). By user data, I mean app data. Not /sdcard as already mentioned.
This backup will be 3/4GB most likely if compressed and can be copied to your computer from /sdcard.
Nandroid backup will return your ROM and settings exactly to the point at which the backup was taken. Its a complete snapshot of everything you need.
2 ) titanium backup. This app is most useful when switching between ROMs or having had to wipe to resolve some compatibility issue. It takes a snap shot of each app, but its best just to snapshot user apps NOT system apps. Sometimes system data becomes incompatible and causes problems after an upgrade or ROM change. That's why we wipe when flashing new ROMs. You'll always be best setting up system settings (ringtones, alarms etc) manually but titanium takes the sting out of setting up your own user apps.
3) some kind of sdcard backup. Personally I use foldersync to backup my entire /sdcard whilst I sleep over WiFi to my NAS. Something like this would be extremely wise. If not, at least backup your photos using some cloud app.
TL;DR: How to fix Titanium Backup error 3 while flashing "update.zip" from TWRP?
I have been using Android for more than five years now seriously and it is a bit funny that I did not know I could restore data to newly flashed ROM.
Previously, I would just wipe system and flash new ROM not touching data partition and that worked just fine.
That is past seems.
I have flashed new ROM which is based on stock Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus ROM so I could get official updates. The problem is my phone lost one fifth of its performance according to benchmark and it experiences random reboots (I hope not while I am typing ?)
All in all, by restoring previous data on new ROM some of the files seem not to be overwritten well on new ROM (possibly application versions not getting downgraded well).
LogCat did not help.
I deleted my data (I have backup of course) and my system works normally so it is a data problem.
That is where Titanium Backup came into play.
I made backup of all user applications and an "update.zip".
When I want to flash "update.zip I get error code 3.
Some say it is due system partition but I formatted it in couple of manners and I am still unable to restore.
Is there any other way to restore applications and its data to new ROM?
I have tried backing up the applications and moving the Titanium Backup folder to SD card and moving it back when I flash new ROM. Backup does not get detected.
Thank you in advance!
dedq said:
TL;DR: How to fix Titanium Backup error 3 while flashing "update.zip" from TWRP?
I have been using Android for more than five years now seriously and it is a bit funny that I did not know I could restore data to newly flashed ROM.
Previously, I would just wipe system and flash new ROM not touching data partition and that worked just fine.
That is past seems.
I have flashed new ROM which is based on stock Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus ROM so I could get official updates. The problem is my phone lost one fifth of its performance according to benchmark and it experiences random reboots (I hope not while I am typing [emoji854])
All in all, by restoring previous data on new ROM some of the files seem not to be overwritten well on new ROM (possibly application versions not getting downgraded well).
LogCat did not help.
I deleted my data (I have backup of course) and my system works normally so it is a data problem.
That is where Titanium Backup came into play.
I made backup of all user applications and an "update.zip".
When I want to flash "update.zip I get error code 3.
Some say it is due system partition but I formatted it in couple of manners and I am still unable to restore.
Is there any other way to restore applications and its data to new ROM?
I have tried backing up the applications and moving the Titanium Backup folder to SD card and moving it back when I flash new ROM. Backup does not get detected.
Thank you in advance!
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When switching ROMs, restoring data from a previous ROM causes issues, especially when the data contains system data and apps from the previous ROM, user apps and their data usually restore fine, but the system stuff doesn't.
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